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SteBO
05-22-2013, 04:48 PM
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Location: American Airlines Arena
Time: 8:30 PM

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George Hill - Lance Stephenson - Paul George - David West - Roy Hibbert


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Mario Chalmers Dwyane Wade LeBron James Udonis Haslem Chris Bosh





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Knick_Fever
05-22-2013, 05:16 PM
Curious too see how Indiana attempts to counter Miami's "fronting-zone" defense. Nonetheless, Heat will start off fast and ultimately win by 10-12.

OldStyleCubbies
05-22-2013, 05:17 PM
Go 'Cers!

airronijordan
05-22-2013, 05:34 PM
I think Miami ends up being rusty in this game like they were against the Bulls and I see the Pacers stealing this game

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 05:46 PM
Watching the playoff playback and that Cole dunk is still sick as ****.

justinnum1
05-22-2013, 05:48 PM
Curious too see how Indiana attempts to counter Miami's "fronting-zone" defense. Nonetheless, Heat will start off fast and ultimately win by 10-12.

I could see miami losing game 1 and then taking the next 4 of 5.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 05:54 PM
I could see miami losing game 1 and then taking the next 4 of 5.

You guys just need to focus instead of slacking off because you beat these guys last year.

ChitownBears22
05-22-2013, 06:04 PM
Heat by 15

rgt584
05-22-2013, 06:38 PM
heat in 7...bosh is gonna be the main factor like everyone says...west also for indiana...also indiana bench lost some scoring when collison and barbosa left...heat have depth

Slug3
05-22-2013, 07:16 PM
Game starts an hour later. Wonder if fans will attempt to make it by the second quarter.

Buckwheat
05-22-2013, 07:52 PM
Let's go Pacers!

jacquewho?
05-22-2013, 07:53 PM
Let's go Pacers!

VCaintdead17
05-22-2013, 08:13 PM
Let's go Pacers!

ChiCubs39
05-22-2013, 08:21 PM
Let's go Pacers!

oak2455
05-22-2013, 08:23 PM
a lot of Pacer:love:

PacersForLife
05-22-2013, 08:29 PM
We're getting a surprising amount of love from the TNT crew.

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:36 PM
Miami needs to shake off the rust. Either way this is not an easy matchup for them at all.

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:36 PM
Stevenson is just becoming a great player during these playoffs

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:37 PM
Chalmers clutch three there

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 08:38 PM
Feels like been waiting forever for this game

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:38 PM
Heat like the Knicks are just taking jumpers

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:38 PM
Pacers not intimidated early

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:38 PM
Turnovers against this Heat team could be the downfall

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 08:39 PM
Stevenson is just becoming a great player during these playoffs
he's their x-factor

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:39 PM
That call could have gone either way. Haslem looked late getting there

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 08:40 PM
No easy buckets hibbert

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:40 PM
he's their x-factor

I agree, does Wade guard him all series? who else can?

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:41 PM
West with the ugly Jumper

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 08:41 PM
Lebron all over Hibbert. Two missed foul calls is no surprise on Lebron.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 08:41 PM
I cant see Wade getting 20 points in a game the rest this post season. He just looks so damaged.

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:41 PM
Miami not playing great is only down 1

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:42 PM
Miami will kill you on points off turnovers

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 08:42 PM
Wow Indy they TO way too much

archdevil84
05-22-2013, 08:42 PM
wow this game is realy fast paced and awesome already

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:42 PM
Hibbert cant pickup a foul like that so early in this game

Slug3
05-22-2013, 08:43 PM
I think you can literally call a lane violation almost all the time. Why they even call it is beyond me.

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:43 PM
Hibbert did travel there...nice bucket though

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 08:43 PM
Line violation? What's next a carrying call against the Pacers... Haha

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 08:44 PM
I agree, does Wade guard him all series? who else can?
Bron' easier to switch low to Hibbert

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:44 PM
George cant get into a point for point battle with LBJ, just let the game come too you

Khri
05-22-2013, 08:44 PM
Ugh refs again.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 08:46 PM
Line violation? What's next a carrying call against the Pacers... Haha

So your only here to talk about the refs nice. At least spell Lane right

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 08:46 PM
Ugh refs again.

Really? The refs have always been pro Miami. Don't complain, you ain't going to get any sympathy from any other NBA fan.

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 08:47 PM
this game has been called average for now, lane violation aside

Khri
05-22-2013, 08:48 PM
2 fouls on Bosh. :(

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:48 PM
hibbert hurrying his shot

Slug3
05-22-2013, 08:48 PM
All Hibbert does is shuffle his feet when he is on the block.

Khri
05-22-2013, 08:49 PM
Wade...

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:49 PM
West is a BEAST

Slug3
05-22-2013, 08:49 PM
Serisouly just start Anderson on West.

Khri
05-22-2013, 08:50 PM
Gotta hit those freethrows.

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:50 PM
Dwade looks slower, that brace is big

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:51 PM
Hibbert finally looks comfortable shooting that shot

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:51 PM
Wade said the week off did nothing to help his knee

blahblahyoutoo
05-22-2013, 08:52 PM
2 fouls on Bosh. :(

kept hearing from everyone how fouls aren't called against the heat.

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:52 PM
ray allen is a crafty guy

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 08:52 PM
So your only here to talk about the refs nice. At least spell Lane right

Actually both are correct.


http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_10.html

Captain Moroni
05-22-2013, 08:52 PM
kept hearing from everyone how fouls aren't called against the heat.

No, just n LeBron

Khri
05-22-2013, 08:52 PM
Pacers have been getting a lot of calls in their favor lately.

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 08:52 PM
So your only here to talk about the refs nice. At least spell Lane right

Actually both are correct.


http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_10.html

Slug3
05-22-2013, 08:53 PM
I dont know who Battier was trying to fool there, lol.

blahblahyoutoo
05-22-2013, 08:53 PM
refs calling it consistent as in the knicks series on hibbert. no qualms about it.

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 08:53 PM
Roy took it on the D

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 08:53 PM
Actually both are correct.


http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_10.html

Well at least you actually admit it I'll know to ignore your post from now on

Slug3
05-22-2013, 08:53 PM
Wade said the week off did nothing to help his knee

Its going to take like a month plus for that knee to heal.

JC_
05-22-2013, 08:54 PM
Battier went up with pretty much regular lay-up form there, I dont think i've ever seen a charge called for that before

Slug3
05-22-2013, 08:54 PM
Is Lebron going to even try and drive it? He has a side all by himself and is not even trying to blow by George.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 08:55 PM
Battier went up with pretty much regular lay-up form there, I dont think i've ever seen a charge called for that before

He stuck his leg out. I have seen Manu and even Wade get called for that.

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 08:55 PM
Well at least you actually admit it I'll know to ignore your post from now on

Who are you? Ignore away.

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 08:55 PM
Gotta go to George here with Ray Allen on him. Get a quick post up here.

jmoney23
05-22-2013, 08:56 PM
Pacers have been getting a lot of calls in their favor lately.

Maybe Stern wants to give the 90% of fans that hate Miami a bit of hope before he has the refs bring the hammer down on the Pacers.

Khri
05-22-2013, 08:56 PM
Game tied? Thank you ref.

lavilevi23
05-22-2013, 08:58 PM
Omg what a BS tech

blahblahyoutoo
05-22-2013, 08:58 PM
white boy fight!

Khri
05-22-2013, 08:59 PM
So Hansbro started the whole thing and Anderson is the one that gets the technical.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 08:59 PM
whistle blowing left and right good god

Slug3
05-22-2013, 08:59 PM
I know there are a crap ton of refs in the league. But why have I seen like only the same 5 ref games? lol

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:00 PM
Wade needs the ball in his hands more.

lavilevi23
05-22-2013, 09:01 PM
Indy bunch of floppers

archdevil84
05-22-2013, 09:01 PM
Wade needs the ball in his hands more.
LOL i see you saying OFTEN that wade shoudnt touch the ball!!!

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:01 PM
3 of our starting 5 in foul trouble...... Fantastic.

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 09:01 PM
white boy fight!
sounds racist, I'm a leave that one alone

archdevil84
05-22-2013, 09:01 PM
but anyway wade is sucha baaawsss LETS GO DWADE!!! #HEAT

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:01 PM
This was just the 1st quarter and our whole team is in foul trouble.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:01 PM
Wade needs the ball in his hands more.

They like to give it to him with 4 seconds left on the clock so no room to operate

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:02 PM
LOL i see you saying OFTEN that wade shoudnt touch the ball!!!

Yeah, but thats when he plays off the ball and is expected to cut. He is so much better when he is controlling the game.

4milesperday
05-22-2013, 09:03 PM
LOL...this refs still think the Knicks are playing the Pacers. They're not even watching the game anymore, they are just watching the Heat players.

lavilevi23
05-22-2013, 09:05 PM
Omg

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:05 PM
My god, this is getting ridiculous now.

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:06 PM
Allen is so useless.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:07 PM
Lol

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:07 PM
How can that be a 5 second when Wade pulled it back out when Battier cut through.

JC_
05-22-2013, 09:07 PM
What sport is this

archdevil84
05-22-2013, 09:08 PM
what is a 5 sec call? i've never heard of that?

lavilevi23
05-22-2013, 09:08 PM
We getting raped out there by the refa

4milesperday
05-22-2013, 09:08 PM
O boy...the refs are the Pacers best defense so far

mdm692
05-22-2013, 09:08 PM
If LBJ wasn't on Miami they're no better than this years Lakers.

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 09:08 PM
man I haven't seen that call since Sam Cassel

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:08 PM
I am sorry but what's up with all these calls?

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 09:09 PM
Wow, Indiana has 2 more FTA's than Miami.

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 09:10 PM
what is a 5 sec call? i've never heard of that?
a player can not dribble 5 secs w/ his back turned

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:10 PM
If LBJ wasn't on Miami they're no better than this years Lakers.

You don't know what your talking about

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 09:11 PM
Miami getting a taste of their own medicine.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:11 PM
every 5 seconds a whistle blows omg let them ****ing play

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:11 PM
lets go wade

mdm692
05-22-2013, 09:12 PM
I am sorry but what's up with all these calls?
Indy's offense ia pretty bad as is Miami's without LBJ. Along with the fact that Miami is trying to play the physical game that Indy plays. That may work against a tired Chicago but trying to do it vs a fresh Indiana that is just going to be ugly.

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:12 PM
Miami getting a taste of their own medicine.

Dude **** off already.

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 09:13 PM
Hekneeme!

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:14 PM
Wade is working

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 09:14 PM
West is playing great and he needs to continue to work that short corner if the Pacers want to win this one.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:14 PM
Wade just ****ing walked on air.

archdevil84
05-22-2013, 09:14 PM
dude are you serious? wade is playing fcking epic!

mdm692
05-22-2013, 09:15 PM
You don't know what your talking about
If you really think a deteriorating Wade can carry this Miami team then you are delusional. This game shows how lost the Heat are without LBJ. He truly is the MVP.

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:15 PM
Cole!

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 09:16 PM
this is Indy's type of game

blahblahyoutoo
05-22-2013, 09:16 PM
sounds racist, I'm a leave that one alone

it's ok. i'm white. i'm allowed to say it.

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:16 PM
Anderson is playing pretty well today.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:17 PM
Cole is so SICK!!

blahblahyoutoo
05-22-2013, 09:17 PM
what a pickup birdman was.

4milesperday
05-22-2013, 09:17 PM
Refs...damn

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:17 PM
Burdman Burdman!

natelpete
05-22-2013, 09:18 PM
This has been one ugly *** game.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:18 PM
Amazing defense but lol

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:18 PM
Calm down ref.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:18 PM
Norris Cole will be an all-star if he keeps improving at this rate.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:18 PM
If you really think a deteriorating Wade can carry this Miami team then you are delusional. This game shows how lost the Heat are without LBJ. He truly is the MVP.

Lol thanks for proving my point using a sample size of 14 minutes in game 1 against the Pacers. The heat play great with Lebron on the Bench better with him on the floor obviously, but ur the delusional one think they are lost without LeBron. Have you ever watched the Heat play this season. Using this game as evidence when its not even half way done try harder next time.

bucketss
05-22-2013, 09:19 PM
refs want a game 7, its gonna be crazy in indiana.

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 09:19 PM
West continues to dominate. Great move in the lane to get to the basket.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:19 PM
Refs need to die a painful slow death by hanging then not hanging then hanging then not hanging until they finally lose all oxygen.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:19 PM
David West looking like the NOLA David West.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:20 PM
Holy **** that almost went in!

bucketss
05-22-2013, 09:20 PM
If you really think a deteriorating Wade can carry this Miami team then you are delusional. This game shows how lost the Heat are without LBJ. He truly is the MVP.

lol some kid said the heat would easily win the east without lebron LOL.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:20 PM
Young claps for himself getting a foul wtf

mdm692
05-22-2013, 09:20 PM
Lol thanks for proving my point using a sample size of 14 minutes in game 1 against the Pacers. The heat play great with Lebron on the Bench better with him on the floor obviously, but ur the delusional one think they are lost without LeBron. Have you ever watched the Heat play this season. Using this game as evidence when its not even half way done try harder next time.

11, 12 ppg in these playoffs? What was that number again? It's kind of like talking to a Lakers fan who thinks Kobe is still the best player in the world.

kenzo400
05-22-2013, 09:21 PM
We all know Miami is going to win 4-1. Maybe 4-2 at best. Let's not lie to ourselves here.

bucketss
05-22-2013, 09:21 PM
how come the rigged police go ghost when miami gets bad calls called against them?

D-Leethal
05-22-2013, 09:21 PM
Pacers paint/rim protection is unbelievable.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:22 PM
Refs need to drop their whistles for 2 minutes.

mdm692
05-22-2013, 09:22 PM
lol some kid said the heat would easily win the east without lebron LOL.
Probably a typo. I think he meant the lotto.

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:22 PM
We all know Miami is going to win 4-1. Maybe 4-2 at best. Let's not lie to ourselves here.

You can predict the future now?

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:23 PM
11, 12 ppg in these playoffs? What was that number again? It's kind of like talking to a Lakers fan who thinks Kobe is still the best player in the world.

He was just saying they are still a great team without LeBron.

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 09:23 PM
David West looking like the NOLA David West.

In terms of a total game, West is playing his best basketball of his career in this post season. He is creating **** shot a lot more now than he ever did when he was with Paul and the Hornets.

mdm692
05-22-2013, 09:23 PM
how come the rigged police go ghost when miami gets bad calls called against them?

I think it's been somewhat fair. If you try to play Indianas game you're bound to foul quite a bit.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:24 PM
11, 12 ppg in these playoffs? What was that number again? It's kind of like talking to a Lakers fan who thinks Kobe is still the best player in the world.

Where in my post did I say anything about Wade I said the Heat. Reading comprehension will do wonders. No doubt Wade has not been himself in these playoffs, but like I said earlier to say they are lost is just ridiculous. No team scores on every possession name me a team that does. Don't worry I'll wait.

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:24 PM
Nice one Wade

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 09:24 PM
Where are the Heat fans that were saying the refs are terrible? Indiana has more personal fouls than Miami.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:25 PM
Those offensive rebounds killing Miami

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:26 PM
Where are the Heat fans that were saying the refs are terrible? Indiana has more personal fouls than Miami.

Are you actually watching the game or just looking at the box score?

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:26 PM
LOL Miami is running the same play over and over and over again.

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 09:26 PM
Forcing the heat to take contested jumpers, keep it up!

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:26 PM
In terms of a total game, West is playing his best basketball of his career in this post season. He is creating **** shot a lot more now than he ever did when he was with Paul and the Hornets.

2008 was his best playoffs.

D-Leethal
05-22-2013, 09:28 PM
Indy is one of the few teams in the league that plays Miami and actually believes they are the better team when they face off. There are prob only 5-6 teams you can say truly believe that.

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:28 PM
3 on Bosh, wow.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:29 PM
Why is Miami getting called for everything and Indy is not. At least call it the same both ways.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:29 PM
I have officially lost all respect for Spo. He is now putting Battier or Hibbert. Why did he even receive a coach of the year vote.

natelpete
05-22-2013, 09:29 PM
Indy is one of the few teams in the league that plays Miami and actually believes they are the better team when they face off. There are prob only 5-6 teams you can say truly believe that.

They know they aren't better. They might think they can compete but they have to know they are dogs.

mdm692
05-22-2013, 09:30 PM
Where in my post did I say anything about Wade I said the Heat. Reading comprehension will do wonders. No doubt Wade has not been himself in these playoffs, but like I said earlier to say they are lost is just ridiculous. No team scores on every possession name me a team that does. Don't worry I'll wait.

And you show me where I said Miami needs to score on every posession. Don't worry I'll wait. Any team can score spurts but only teams with a superstar like LBJ can maintain that consistency through the regular season and the playoffs. If you want to fool yourself into thinking that the Heat are still a powerhouse without LBJ that's fine but we all know that isn't the case.

jerellh528
05-22-2013, 09:30 PM
Indiana plays miami so well, I can definitely see them stealing this series.

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 09:30 PM
I am sorry but what's up with all these calls?


My god, this is getting ridiculous now.


Game tied? Thank you ref.


Pacers have been getting a lot of calls in their favor lately.


So Hansbro started the whole thing and Anderson is the one that gets the technical.


Ugh refs again.



Are you actually watching the game or just looking at the box score?

Both, but what does that have to do with anything? Fact is, Indiana has more personal fouls and less FTA's than Miami.

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 09:30 PM
2008 was his best playoffs.

His defence is nowhere near as good ad it has become over the last two seasons and he has become a much more complete offensive player capable of getting his own shot.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:30 PM
how come the rigged police go ghost when miami gets bad calls called against them?

It's more fun to root against Miami

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:31 PM
I have officially lost all respect for Spo. He is now putting Battier or Hibbert. Why did he even receive a coach of the year vote.

Spot has always been awful. Lebron is always there to save the day.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:31 PM
Hibbert holy crap

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:31 PM
Both, but what does that have to do with anything? Fact is, Indiana has more personal fouls and less FTA's than Miami.

Why are you quoting all my post?

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:31 PM
Spot has always been awful. Lebron is always there to save the day.

I thought Battier was your best post and on ball defender.

Vincent
05-22-2013, 09:32 PM
I think there have been loose calls going voth ways
I guess its hard to be objective when your team is involved

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 09:33 PM
Why are you quoting all my post?

To show that you have no idea what you're saying. You rant about the refs, yet Miami has more FTA's and less personal fouls.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:33 PM
And you show me where I said Miami needs to score on every posession. Don't worry I'll wait. Any team can score spurts but only teams with a superstar like LBJ can maintain that consistency through the regular season and the playoffs. If you want to fool yourself into thinking that the Heat are still a powerhouse without LBJ that's fine but we all know that isn't the case.
And consistently they have continued to score in spurts even with Lebron on the bench just like the offense isn't always productive when he is on the floor. Since you like to use small sample sizes the last 6 mins or so Lebron has been in the game and the offense hasn't looked so great so how easy it is to do that.

VCaintdead17
05-22-2013, 09:33 PM
West is a ****ing viking. Heat want none of that.

mdm692
05-22-2013, 09:33 PM
To quote John Cena "the champ is here!!!!! ". . .Ian Mahimmi!!!

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:33 PM
His defence is nowhere near as good ad it has become over the last two seasons and he has become a much more complete offensive player capable of getting his own shot.

He averaged two blocks and a steal in the 2008 playoffs as well as 6 more points on almost identical FG%. He even made a three in that postseason :laugh2:

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:34 PM
Ray Allen on George and Battier on Hibbert, lol.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:35 PM
How no charge?

blahblahyoutoo
05-22-2013, 09:35 PM
Where are the Heat fans that were saying the refs are terrible? Indiana has more personal fouls than Miami.

i'm not one to blame refs. the game has been called tightly. that's all i'm saying.

VCaintdead17
05-22-2013, 09:35 PM
He averaged two blocks and a steal in the 2008 playoffs as well as 6 more points on almost identical FG%. He even made a three in that postseason :laugh2:

Because that's how you measure defense...

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:36 PM
When Wade had the ball in his hands he was at least driving it to the paint and shooting or passing out. Lebron wont even step foot in there.

VCaintdead17
05-22-2013, 09:36 PM
He averaged two blocks and a steal in the 2008 playoffs as well as 6 more points on almost identical FG%. He even made a three in that postseason :laugh2:

Because that's how you measure defense...

Vincent
05-22-2013, 09:36 PM
Shane Battier really needs to get fined every game... he spends more time on the ground than standing up

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:36 PM
To show that you have no idea what you're saying. You rant about the refs, yet Miami has more FTA's and less personal fouls.

Miami has one less personal foul and one more freethrow than Indiana, yet if you have been watching the game you would have noticed that every time we make a run we either get a 3 sec violation call or something else. Which is why I and a lot of other Heat fans are complaining here.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:37 PM
Shane Battier really needs to get fined every game... he spends more time on the ground than standing up

That one he literally just slipped.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:37 PM
such a bad qtr

Ezio
05-22-2013, 09:37 PM
Vogel gonna draw up a great play here.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:37 PM
To show that you have no idea what you're saying. You rant about the refs, yet Miami has more FTA's and less personal fouls.

The only thing is you can't always judge how badly a team is favored by how many FT's or how little PF's they get because sometimes a team really does commit more or less fouls.

justinnum1
05-22-2013, 09:37 PM
:yawn:

archdevil84
05-22-2013, 09:37 PM
13 turnovers for miami in the first half. thats a bad sign

mdm692
05-22-2013, 09:37 PM
And consistently they have continued to score in spurts even with Lebron on the bench just like the offense isn't always productive when he is on the floor. Since you like to use small sample sizes the last 6 mins or so Lebron has been in the game and the offense hasn't looked so great so how easy it is to do that.
Right. Cause this is the first game I've seen Miami play all season long lol. And they haven't looked great but you can easily see a bit more fluidity. The reason Miami is still down is because they are still trying to play Indiana's game along with 13 to's. A lot.of those to's came with LBJ on the bench btw.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:37 PM
I mean I would think if someone was smart they would know to start Cole and Anderson instead of UD and Chalmers.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:38 PM
:yawn:

Normally I am with you, but we dont have a single offensive play that we are running.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:38 PM
When Wade had the ball in his hands he was at least driving it to the paint and shooting or passing out. Lebron wont even step foot in there.

I hate when LeBron gets that way. Only time he tried to drive he got a foul called on him and he hasn't tried again since

bucketss
05-22-2013, 09:38 PM
Why are you quoting all my post?

hes been trolling heat game threads since the playoffs started.

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 09:38 PM
He averaged two blocks and a steal in the 2008 playoffs as well as 6 more points on almost identical FG%. He even made a three in that postseason :laugh2:

Individual stats don't account for the players impact on the defence, especially with rotations and help D. His synergy defensive numbers are better now than they have every been. It important to look past superficial stats like blocks per game and steals. Look at isolation and post defence and point per possession. Blocks and steals are only small parts of the picture. The reality is that West actually has a higher eFG% and TS% this post season while attempting 3 less shots per game.

West also was not able to create his own shot in New Orleans as Paul just fed him that 18 foot jumper every time. Now he is getting in the lane and working the paint. This is a vastly moored David West and you can laugh all you want. :D

Vincent
05-22-2013, 09:38 PM
Tough call, but I think they got it right

JC_
05-22-2013, 09:39 PM
Another weird offensive foul call

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 09:39 PM
i'm not one to blame refs. the game has been called tightly. that's all i'm saying.

Yeah, I didn't mean to direct it at all Heat fans. I agree the game is being called tight for both teams. The fouls and FTA's are basically even.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 09:39 PM
Right. Cause this is the first game I've seen Miami play all season long lol. And they haven't looked great but you can easily see a bit more fluidity. The reason Miami is still down is because they are still trying to play Indiana's game along with 13 to's. A lot.of those to's came with LBJ on the bench btw.

Could of fooled me. Either way Miami has played like crap this 2nd qtr I expect a turn around after half time.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:39 PM
Because that's how you measure defense...

His defensive stats and intangibles are worse than they were back then.

Vincent
05-22-2013, 09:40 PM
I mean I would think if someone was smart they would know to start Cole and Anderson instead of UD and Chalmers.

I think they serve better as energy off the bench

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 09:40 PM
nice job by Indy in the 1st half

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:40 PM
I just dont know what Spo is trying to run for Miami's offense.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:41 PM
I think they serve better as energy off the bench

I always thought that if you are better than someone you should be playing over them. Not the other way around.

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:41 PM
hes been trolling heat game threads since the playoffs started.

Which explains why everytime I read one of his post he is always talking trash about the Heat.

VCaintdead17
05-22-2013, 09:44 PM
His defensive stats and intangibles are worse than they were back then.

No and no. Check his synergy stats, his RAPM, and his on/off% and get back to me.

ThaDubs
05-22-2013, 09:44 PM
Individual stats don't account for the players impact on the defence, especially with rotations and help D. His synergy defensive numbers are better now than they have every been. It important to look past superficial stats like blocks per game and steals. Look at isolation and post defence and point per possession. Blocks and steals are only small parts of the picture. The reality is that West actually has a higher eFG% and TS% this post season while attempting 3 less shots per game.

West also was not certain show own shot in New Orleans as Paul just fed him that 18 foot jumper every time. Now he is getting in the lane and working the paint. This is a vastly moored David West and you can laugh all you want. :D

You care about this way too much. I still think he was a better player back then. His defensive rating is higher now so perhaps you're correct about the defensive part but his block% and steal% are lower now than back then. He also doesn't rebound as much and turns the ball over more.

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 09:45 PM
Miami has one less personal foul and one more freethrow than Indiana, yet if you have been watching the game you would have noticed that every time we make a run we either get a 3 sec violation call or something else. Which is why I and a lot of other Heat fans are complaining here.

So everytime you go on a run they call a foul? :laugh2:


The only thing is you can't always judge how badly a team is favored by how many FT's or how little PF's they get because sometimes a team really does commit more or less fouls.

True, but you can only go by the box. You can't just assume something was a foul.


hes been trolling heat game threads since the playoffs started.

Are you still mad because I called you out for being a blatant homer?


Which explains why everytime I read one of his post he is always talking trash about the Heat.

Weird, every time I read one of your posts, you're complaining about the refs.

Mile High Champ
05-22-2013, 09:47 PM
You care about this way too much. I still think he was a better player back then. His defensive rating is higher now so perhaps you're correct about the defensive part but his block% and steal% are lower now than back then. He also doesn't rebound as much and turns the ball over more.

Nope not really, you staring started a debated about synergy numbers with somebody who values their importance. Again, steal and blocks are small windows into a players defensive worth. Try doing some research into synergy, it really is quite interesting and it can really expand your knowledge of the game going forward.

Also please don't use defensive rating, it's an awful stat that literally is useless. His rebounds are down because the Pacers as a team are an incredible rebounding team with Hibbert and George both getting their fair share. There is no place for West to get 8 or 9 rebounds a game on this team and nor should he.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:48 PM
Lebron hasnt taken a shot in the paint the first half. Grow a damn pair and drive it.

bucketss
05-22-2013, 09:50 PM
So everytime you go on a run they call a foul? :laugh2:



True, but you can only go by the box. You can't just assume something was a foul.



Are you still mad because I called you out for being a blatant homer?



Weird, every time I read one of your posts, you're complaining about the refs.

what ever you say bucks/bulls/pacers soon to be spurs fan.

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 09:51 PM
Lebron hasnt taken a shot in the paint the first half. Grow a damn pair and drive it.

Yeah, he really needs to drive more. He's dominant when he does.

VCaintdead17
05-22-2013, 09:53 PM
You care about this way too much. I still think he was a better player back then. His defensive rating is higher now so perhaps you're correct about the defensive part but his block% and steal% are lower now than back then. He also doesn't rebound as much and turns the ball over more.

Lol he cares too much because he knows how to properly evaluate a player, instead of rambling on about how West doesn't get as many steals as he used to. Because that's what I'm looking for in a good big man defender. **** post defense, guarding the pick and roll and help defense. GIMME DEM STEALZ!!!!


Also, UH OH! West rebounds less than he used to! OH GOD NO! We're only the best rebounding team in the league. WHAT ARE WE TO DO?!?!?

Khri
05-22-2013, 09:54 PM
what ever you say bucks/bulls/pacers soon to be spurs fan.

:laugh2:

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 09:54 PM
what ever you say bucks/bulls/pacers soon to be spurs fan.

Nope, Celtics fan. You would be the one to call someone out for band wagoning. :laugh2:

Slug3
05-22-2013, 09:57 PM
How the fudge does Miami have 20 points in the paint, lol.

naps
05-22-2013, 09:58 PM
Green Monster has been on a roll since the playoffs started. He probably thinks Heat knocked out the Celtics this year as well (story of celtics playoffs last few years) even though it was the Knicks :laugh2:

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 09:59 PM
Green Monster has been on a roll since the playoffs started. He probably thinks Heat knocked out the Celtics this year as well (story of celtics playoffs last few years) even though it was the Knicks :laugh2:

What?

Slug3
05-22-2013, 10:00 PM
Thats what Spo was telling these guys? How about making some adjustments and getting guys easier looks?

farren.louis
05-22-2013, 10:01 PM
is it just me or is wade just a big diva.

Khri
05-22-2013, 10:02 PM
Green Monster has been on a roll since the playoffs started. He probably thinks Heat knocked out the Celtics this year as well (story of celtics playoffs last few years) even though it was the Knicks :laugh2:

The guy has been in every Heat thread supporting the other team like crazy. I often wonder what happened in his life that made him that way.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 10:03 PM
Why all of a sudden start calling these moving screens? lol

CostanzaNumba0
05-22-2013, 10:03 PM
refs trying to give the game to miami

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 10:03 PM
Lets go Wade

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 10:03 PM
The guy has been in every Heat thread supporting the other team like crazy. I often wonder what happened in his life that made him that way.

This isn't a Heat thread. This is an NBA game thread that is open to anyone. You're probably upset about my sig.

Khri
05-22-2013, 10:04 PM
refs trying to give the game to miami

:pity:

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 10:04 PM
refs trying to give the game to miami

They were whistle happy all first half didn't see you post til Miami gets some calls what a surprise

Slug3
05-22-2013, 10:04 PM
Seriously Lebron? Wade is taking it in to the lane, get in there already.

VCaintdead17
05-22-2013, 10:04 PM
Refs get so excited when they call travels

Khri
05-22-2013, 10:04 PM
This isn't a Heat thread. This is an NBA game thread that is open to anyone. You're probably upset about my sig.

I am upset that you have the time to troll as much as you do.

My point still stand, why are you in every Heat thread? Go outside, you will discover a whole new world:laugh2:

CostanzaNumba0
05-22-2013, 10:04 PM
wade just blatantly traveled. stephenson needs to hit that.

archdevil84
05-22-2013, 10:05 PM
rio is hurt

Slug3
05-22-2013, 10:05 PM
refs trying to give the game to miami

LOL What? These refs have been calling crap all game.

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 10:05 PM
I don't think LeBron is thinking about taking it in in this game

VCaintdead17
05-22-2013, 10:06 PM
Vogel at half time: **** it. 5 point lead. We got this in the bag.

Slug3
05-22-2013, 10:06 PM
Damn Hibbert just leveled Wade, lol.

mdm692
05-22-2013, 10:06 PM
LBJ showed up.

bucketss
05-22-2013, 10:06 PM
LOL What? These refs have been calling crap all game.

just another troll, he probably just flipped to the game right now. smh

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 10:06 PM
wade just blatantly traveled. stephenson needs to hit that.

You came here just to troll. You didn't post one time when Miami was losing

Vincent
05-22-2013, 10:06 PM
LeBron is playing so good right now

Slug3
05-22-2013, 10:06 PM
I don't think LeBron is thinking about taking it in in this game

Yeah that put back was his first shot in the paint.

Green_Monster
05-22-2013, 10:06 PM
I am upset that you have the time to troll as much as you do.

My point still stand, why are you in every Heat thread? Go outside, you will discover a whole new world:laugh2:

I'm a troll? You we're complaining about the refs the whole first half.

I'm in NBA game threads because I like to watch basketball. If you don't like my sig, than put me on ignore.

bucketss
05-22-2013, 10:07 PM
any pacer fan impressed with how much better paul georges handles have gotten?? derozan needs to work with that guy.

CostanzaNumba0
05-22-2013, 10:08 PM
lots of miami homers in here

KniCks4LiFe
05-22-2013, 10:08 PM
rio is hurt

he won't be the last one either

VCaintdead17
05-22-2013, 10:08 PM
Jeez guys. God forbid we just talk about basketball.

justinnum1
05-22-2013, 10:08 PM
a few mad knicks fans in here

CostanzaNumba0
05-22-2013, 10:08 PM
any pacer fan impressed with how much better paul georges handles have gotten?? derozan needs to work with that guy.

after watching the knicks series so closely i'm officially on the bandwagon, hes gotta be smarter with his shot selection tho.

bucketss
05-22-2013, 10:09 PM
You came here just to troll. You didn't post one time when Miami was losing

lol i did say the haters went ghost when indy was getting favorable calls.

shep33
05-22-2013, 10:09 PM
Miami is a great team, but my god the road to the Finals the past two years has been a joke

zn23
05-22-2013, 10:09 PM
I'll be surprised if the Pacers are able to win one game...

archdevil84
05-22-2013, 10:09 PM
wade needs to make his free throws tho. he's realy struggling from the line the last two months

CostanzaNumba0
05-22-2013, 10:10 PM
big shot, miamis d is lookin serious

Hardaway Here
05-22-2013, 10:10 PM
Why does he keep calling James Wade