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Blitzace137
05-15-2013, 01:06 AM
When J.R. Smith hits the open market, what would his market value be now? Is he worth more than the 5.5 million dollar mid level exception?

Guppyfighter
05-15-2013, 01:08 AM
MLE for a smart team, anything over seven million for a dumb team.

spreadeagle
05-15-2013, 01:11 AM
3 yrs 18 mil, the playoffs probably cost him a good offer from good team, but he will still get a good offer from a desperate team

Blitzace137
05-15-2013, 01:16 AM
A team like the Suns,Hawks or even Dallas if they miss out on D12 I could see giving J.R. 7+. I agree J.R. might have lost his big time offer but there's always a team that gets desperate.

oak2455
05-15-2013, 01:24 AM
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TrueFan420
05-15-2013, 01:26 AM
Shouldn't get more than middle level.

NYK|NYY
05-15-2013, 01:28 AM
I feel bad for JR kind of. The Knicks offense relies on him so much this year, that his (legendary) slump has been magnified.

LongIslandIcedZ
05-15-2013, 01:36 AM
His value is a hell of a lot less than it was a month ago

raiderposting
05-15-2013, 01:44 AM
I wouldn't offer him anything if I'm a gm.

setman2000
05-15-2013, 01:45 AM
No way you pay him more than mid-level if that. JR's a moron and a punk and always has been. He'll always be an inconsistent shooter who can get hot in streaks. Only won the 6th man award because he played so many minutes (starters minutes) and got hot for much of the 2nd half of the season to pad his stats on a team depleted with injuries.

b@llhog24
05-15-2013, 02:04 AM
Around 6-7 million. He's a nice player and all, but there are a number of wings that are gonna be on the market that I'd take over him.

Hugbees
05-15-2013, 02:17 AM
It's looking more and more likely that he'll return to New York next season. Don't know if That's a good or bad thing for them. Then again, there are always certain teams that are willing to do the ridiculous; the NBA is home of bad and immovable contracts.

LeperMessiah
05-15-2013, 02:53 AM
3 yrs 18 mil, the playoffs probably cost him a good offer from good team, but he will still get a good offer from a desperate team

This seems more likely

BULLSFAN0810
05-15-2013, 03:03 AM
I was a fan, but I wouldn't sign him, too inconsistent, too rash .

sunsfan88
05-15-2013, 03:09 AM
A team like the Suns,Hawks or even Dallas if they miss out on D12 I could see giving J.R. 7+. I agree J.R. might have lost his big time offer but there's always a team that gets desperate.

If the Suns sign a dumb*** scum like JR Smith to even a one dollar contract, I would quit being a Suns fan. I don't care if that makes me a bandwagon fan.

Good thing we have McDonough now...he's not that stupid.

girlsluvBeyonce
05-15-2013, 03:51 AM
My baby goin get payed watch you haters and No goods

jam
05-15-2013, 08:34 AM
My baby goin get payed watch you haters and No goods

You're a complete idiot.

Becks2307
05-15-2013, 08:37 AM
Jr lost at least 10 million this postseason

Dankster
05-15-2013, 10:13 AM
He's probably looking at being a MLE guy for his prime years. I thought he was going to get at least 8-9 mil per year in the open market right after the regular season was over, but his abysmal performances in the playoffs have greatly hindered his chances of being anything more than a MLE guy.

justinnum1
05-15-2013, 11:20 AM
He's a 4th option at best. Give him 3 or 4 mil per year. Poor mans o j mayo

Hawkeye15
05-15-2013, 11:21 AM
2 years, $12 million

Chapin78
05-15-2013, 11:49 AM
The guys is about to get paid. He just won the 6man award. Last guy who won that award just received a nice contract from the Rockets.

He is streaky but every player is to some extent. I would take him on my team.

TheNumber37
05-15-2013, 12:11 PM
Truly have to wait til the season is over. He could score 30 in the next 3 and the Knicks win, which would alter his value. Remember, he is streaky.

Still, I've always said that any team offering him more than 6 mil a year is in over their heads. If I were the Knicks I would offer about the full MLE for 3 years with incentives (All Star, 6th man, FG%, FT%, 3PT%).

Interesting to see how JR prepares this off season

TylerSL
05-15-2013, 12:21 PM
I wouldnt offer him a contract if I was a GM, I wouldnt want him on my team because he is a ballhog that ruins the offense and stops ball movement. Some team will give him probably about 7 mil/year though.

ILLUSIONIST^248
05-15-2013, 12:31 PM
JR is overrated.

ILLUSIONIST^248
05-15-2013, 12:32 PM
He's a 4th option at best. Give him 3 or 4 mil per year. Poor mans o j mayo

This.

D-Leethal
05-15-2013, 12:32 PM
The problem is more of this roster's necessary reliance on JR, more than JR. He is who he is, he's as streaky as they come in both directions. You can't have that guy be the 2nd most important offensive weapon on your team. Especially when your #1 is pretty inefficient and streaky for a top gun. This team needs a legitimate #2 option to offset Melo's bad days and allow for JR's production to be a bonus and not a necessity.

I really can't think of anyone who lost more money from a playoff run than JR. His value went from its absolute peak to absolute valley in the matter in the matter of 2 weeks. I'd say he cost himself 20+ mill over the course of his contract.

D-Leethal
05-15-2013, 12:34 PM
I wouldnt offer him a contract if I was a GM, I wouldnt want him on my team because he is a ballhog that ruins the offense and stops ball movement. Some team will give him probably about 7 mil/year though.

A lot of sixth men are guys who fit that bill. Thats why they become sixth men and not starters. Same could be said for Jamal Crawford and even James Harden.

JR will get paid based on talent alone, but his consistency will keep him from getting paid to his talent level, and it will keep him from reaching his peak as a player.

I still think JR's best days are ahead of him, a horrible playoff run isn't going to completely nullify the year he had.

NYK|NYY
05-15-2013, 12:38 PM
Ya. I can't help but feel that people are being overly harsh due to his performance. I am sure GM's will look at this differently. Knicks were completely tied to his offense, so naturally, as soon as he stopped hitting shots, the entire team fell apart. He's still the same guy who can single handily win a game on any given night, he just can't be a second banana.

D-Leethal
05-15-2013, 12:41 PM
Ya. I can't help but feel that people are being overly harsh due to his performance. I am sure GM's will look at this differently. Knicks were completely tied to his offense, so naturally, as soon as he stopped hitting shots, the entire team fell apart. He's still the same guy who can single handily win a game on any given night, he just can't be a second banana.

I think what will turn GMs off more than his slump is the elbow in the playoffs, the subsequent **** talk, the rockstar party life before 3:30 tipoff playoff games during said slump.

KnickaBocka.44
05-15-2013, 01:10 PM
If the Suns sign a dumb*** scum like JR Smith to even a one dollar contract, I would quit being a Suns fan. I don't care if that makes me a bandwagon fan.

Good thing we have McDonough now...he's not that stupid.

Whoa there buddy. He wouldn't even be the worst on your team with Beasley there. That would be an interesting combo though...

True Sports Fan
05-15-2013, 01:13 PM
6m at max although someone will surely overpay unless he decides to resign in New York

KnickaBocka.44
05-15-2013, 01:14 PM
I would love to see Smith opt-in, but at this point that could still be a long shot.

True Sports Fan
05-15-2013, 01:15 PM
The guys is about to get paid. He just won the 6man award. Last guy who won that award just received a nice contract from the Rockets.

He is streaky but every player is to some extent. I would take him on my team. You really just compared Jr Smith and Harden? :laugh:

TylerSL
05-15-2013, 01:17 PM
A lot of sixth men are guys who fit that bill. Thats why they become sixth men and not starters. Same could be said for Jamal Crawford and even James Harden.

JR will get paid based on talent alone, but his consistency will keep him from getting paid to his talent level, and it will keep him from reaching his peak as a player.

I still think JR's best days are ahead of him, a horrible playoff run isn't going to completely nullify the year he had.

wow....

Harden is somebody you build a team around, JR Smith is a role player..

Becks2307
05-15-2013, 01:25 PM
He's a 4th option at best. Give him 3 or 4 mil per year. Poor mans o j mayo

:laugh:

you've gotta be kidding me. Jr is not doing well atm but a poor mans oj? LMAOOO

KingPosey
05-15-2013, 01:29 PM
No way you pay him more than mid-level if that. JR's a moron and a punk and always has been. He'll always be an inconsistent shooter who can get hot in streaks. Only won the 6th man award because he played so many minutes (starters minutes) and got hot for much of the 2nd half of the season to pad his stats on a team depleted with injuries.
So being good for half of the season is padding his stats lol?

D-Leethal
05-15-2013, 01:29 PM
wow....

Harden is somebody you build a team around, JR Smith is a role player..

No **** dude. I was comparing their tendency to hold the ball. I used Harden as an extreme example which is why I said 'even' James Harden.