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el hidalgo
05-12-2013, 11:41 AM
what players do you think could be better or could have been better if they played the game a little less selfishly? this thread came to mind after watching the knicks-pacers series. JR smith has great tools, but he just plays selfishly. he chucks and doesnt pass enough. the same can be said for melo tbh.

what players come to your mind, whether it be past or present?

lol, please
05-12-2013, 11:45 AM
Monta Ellis.

slaker619
05-12-2013, 12:17 PM
Kobe

heyman321
05-12-2013, 12:19 PM
lebron

b@llhog24
05-12-2013, 12:23 PM
Rondo.

LakersIn5
05-12-2013, 12:29 PM
stockton

waveycrockett
05-12-2013, 12:29 PM
Demarcus Cousins

JasonJohnHorn
05-12-2013, 12:30 PM
Kobe and McGrady.


Most guys that are selfish though, don't have the skill set to be good otherwise (as play makers and such). They have high turnover rates and such.

waveycrockett
05-12-2013, 12:30 PM
Rondo.

It's funny cause it's true. You would never think a guy who leads the NBA in assists is selfish but he is.

Jarvo
05-12-2013, 01:44 PM
Iverson he could've had a damn ring by now.

ILLUSIONIST^248
05-12-2013, 01:45 PM
What PSD user would be taken more seriously if he/she didn't lose an account bet and still post like a girl. El Hidalgo would be your answer.

I Rock Shaqs
05-12-2013, 02:01 PM
Steve Nash, John Stockton, Jose Calderon, Chris Paul, Jason Kidd, Lebron, KEvin Love, Marc Gasol easy.

Chronz
05-12-2013, 02:04 PM
Definitely Monta.


Kobe and McGrady.


Most guys that are selfish though, don't have the skill set to be good otherwise (as play makers and such). They have high turnover rates and such.

LOL Tmac is the most unselfish scorer/efficient passer that I've ever seen. What makes you list him over the likes of say Nique or someone.

Minimal
05-12-2013, 02:12 PM
Kobe, Melo, Beasley, Monta, Jennings.

ILLUSIONIST^248
05-12-2013, 02:20 PM
Definitely Monta.



LOL Tmac is the most unselfish scorer/efficient passer that I've ever seen. What makes you list him over the likes of say Nique or someone.

Kobe is not as selfish as PSD makes him seem. Tmac would be on my list of non selfish players, idk what Jason is talking about either.

lol, please
05-12-2013, 02:28 PM
:clap: Illusionist for youe first post. (PSD, or Chrome) hasn't let me quote a post for days.

Lakers + Giants
05-12-2013, 02:34 PM
Kobe, it's amazing how much better he is when he turns into kobe nash and the lakers seem nearly unbeatable. Unfortunately, he only does that 10 games a season.

girlsluvBeyonce
05-12-2013, 03:01 PM
cobe

Hellcrooner
05-12-2013, 03:12 PM
iverson.
Close Thread.

Greet
05-12-2013, 03:57 PM
I think Melo plays his best when he keeps the ball moving and stays out of his consecutive streaks of ISO's.....

PhillyFaninLA
05-12-2013, 04:04 PM
I think Derick Coleman could have been a top 5 or top 3 player of all time if he wasn't so lazy. I remember when he wanted to play no one could slow him up or stop him. He was a solid player that could have been mentioned in the same breath as the greats.

jerellh528
05-12-2013, 04:09 PM
mj.

PhillyFaninLA
05-12-2013, 04:17 PM
mj.

The one that played for the Penn Quakers or the one that played for the Chicago Bulls?

jerellh528
05-12-2013, 04:21 PM
The one that played for the Penn Quakers or the one that played for the Chicago Bulls?

the only guy world widely recognized as mj

PhillyFaninLA
05-12-2013, 04:26 PM
the only guy world widely recognized as mj

Aahhh the guy from Penn

Kashmir13579
05-12-2013, 05:51 PM
Stephon Marbury immediately comes to mind.

I remember him always getting his ten dimes in the first half, and once he got 'em he was done passing the rock.

lol, please
05-12-2013, 08:20 PM
Maybe by MJ he meant Mark Jackson. :dance:

Cal827
05-12-2013, 08:51 PM
Jason Kidd

DirkDiggler6
05-12-2013, 09:01 PM
Iverson and kobe

Guppyfighter
05-12-2013, 09:02 PM
Kobe is a great passer. He just doesn't do it often. This answer is fitting because he is actually really good at passing. It wouldn't make sense if he sucked at it.

bagwell368
05-12-2013, 09:25 PM
Wilkins, Iverson, Bellamy, Willis, Carmelo....

pd7631
05-12-2013, 11:34 PM
iverson.
Close Thread.

Ummm....no.


If doing exactly what your team needs you to do in order to reach their maximum potential is selfish, then yes, Allen Iverson was selfish. AI made everyone on his teams better, because they didn't have to have the weaknesses exposed.

Eric Snow
Jumaine Jones
George Lynch
Theo Ratliff
Aaron McKie
Todd MacCulloch
Tyrone Hill
etc..

They were never better than when they played alongside AI, and he made a lot of these guys a TON of money that they would never prove to be worth. The outside impression of AI is always that he's selfish, but anyone that ever played with him came out saying the exact opposite. Aaron McKie even said that before getting to Philly, AI was someone that he didn't THINK he would want to play with. Fast forward to today, and Aaron McKie will tell you that AI was the best teammate he ever had. Larry Brown coached David Robinson, Reggie Miller, and many other great players, but the only one he consistently talks about (always in a positive sense) is Allen Iverson.


Anyone that doubts AI's greatness, his competitiveness, or the love his teammates have always had for him, is someone that has ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE about who he is. I guess that's what happens though when you have no problem accepting the fact that you are totally ignorant to the situation. Probably has something to do with living 4,000 miles away. But go on with your opinion, that has zero credibility and is completely invalid.

The only thing that would've made AI's career even greater than it was, would be if he were ever given a supporting cast that was worth a damn. That's it.

Hawkeye15
05-13-2013, 12:07 AM
Monta, Kobe, Starbury, Iverson all come to mind.

DTownSkitzo
05-13-2013, 12:07 AM
Charles Barkley. I know some may give me crap for this pick but I think it is true.

b@llhog24
05-13-2013, 12:23 AM
It's funny cause it's true. You would never think a guy who leads the NBA in assists is selfish but he is.

Was wondering if someone would get what I meant.


Kobe is a great passer. He just doesn't do it often. This answer is fitting because he is actually really good at passing. It wouldn't make sense if he sucked at it.

So true. People always say that "Player A" should pass more, when in reality efficient passing is just not in their skillset.

HeaTxRipZz
05-13-2013, 12:31 AM
Monta, Iverson, Carmelo and Kobe after seeing what he can do as a facilitator

el hidalgo
05-13-2013, 12:39 AM
Kobe is a great passer. He just doesn't do it often. This answer is fitting because he is actually really good at passing. It wouldn't make sense if he sucked at it.

agreed. he showed how great of a passer he could be this season. i was really impressed by him with his passing this season. its just a shame he wants to be the man and reverts back to "heroball" 95% of the time. his career could have been greater if he facilitated more IMO. just not who kobe is though. if he doesnt win the game for them, nobody will.

Bowman53
05-13-2013, 05:23 AM
Gilbert Arenas.

naps
05-13-2013, 06:37 AM
Kobe.

mrnore77
05-13-2013, 07:28 AM
J.R. Rider, Derrick Coleman, Marbury, Spreewell, Eddy Curry (If he would only have put down some of those twinkies or shared, Steve Francis, Beaseley