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LongWayFromHome
04-22-2013, 03:24 PM
Bobcats:
Ben Gordon - (player option)
Tyrus Thomas - 2 yr 9m per
Ramon Sessions - 1 yr
MKG - 3 yr + RFA
Gerald Henderson - RFA
Bimack Biyombo - 2 yr + RFA
Kemba - 2 yr + RFA
BJ Mullens RFA
Hawood - 2 yr 2m per
Jeff Taylor - 2 yr <1m

Cap number for 13/14: $47.7 (if kemba picks up his option and the RFA's sign for their QO, 27.1 if they all were to leave)

14/15: $23.3 + they have amnesty left for thomas so could be as low as 14

#1 chance in lottery, Piston and Blazer 1st round picks with various protection levels
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Cavs:
Andy Varejao - 1 yr + team option 9.5m per
Kyrie Irving - 2 yr + RFA
Marreese Speights - 1 yr
Tristan Thompson - 2 yr at ~4.7m + RFA
Dion Waiters - 3 yr at ~4m + RFA
Alonzo Gee - 1 yr 3m +team option
Omri Casspi - RFA
CJ Miles - team option
Wayne Ellington - RFA
Tyler Zeller - 3 yr at ~2m + RFA

Cap number for 13/14: $40.9 (if pick up Casspi, Miles, Ellington. 32.3 if let them walk)
14/15: similar

#3 chance in lottery, 17th pick as well this year
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Pelicans:
Eric Gordon - 3 yr <15m per
Ryan Andrson - 3 yr 8.5 m per
Anthony Davis - 3 yr + RFA
Robin Lopez - team option
Jason Smith - 1 yr
Austin Rivers - 1 yr + team options + RFA
Greivis Vasquez - 1 yr plus RFA
Lance Thomas, Darius Miller, Brian Roberts - team options <1m

Cap number for 13/14: $34.9 (if they let people walk, add 5 mil if they pick up Lopez's option)
14/15: similar

#5 chance in lottery
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Kings/Sonics?:
John Salmons - 1 yr + team option 7m per
Marcus Thornton - 2 yr 8+m per
Chuck Hayes - 2 yr 6m per
Tyreke - RFA
Jason Thompson - 4 yr at 6m per
DMC - 1 yr plus RA
Travis Outlaw - 2 yr at 3m per
James Johnson - RFA
Jimmer - 1 yr + team + RFA
Patrick Patterson - 1 yr + RFA
Tony Douglas - RFA
Isaiah Thomas - Team option then Poison Pill RFA

Cap Number for 13/14: about 41 million before the RFA (Evens being one of them) Thornton and Salmon's Contracts are killers. They still have their amnesty.

#6 chance in lottery
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Wizards:
Emaka Okafor - 1 yr 14m
Nene - 3 yr 13m per
Trevor Ariza - player option
John Wall - 1 yr + RFA
Bradley Beal - 3 yr + RFA
Jan Vesely - 1 yr + RFA
Chris Singleton 1 yr + team + RFA
Trevor Booker - 1 yr + RFA

Cap Numbeer 13/14: 57.2 (if Ariza picks up his 7.7m option, crazy not to as he won't make near that much somewhere else.
14/15: Wall RFA (Max), Nene 13m, Beal, 4.5m

#7 chance in lottery
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Pistons:
Stuckey - 1 yr 8.5m
Charlie Villanueva - Player Option 8.5m
Jerebko - 1 yr + Player
Monroe - 1 yr + RFA
Brandon Knight - 2 yr + RFA
Drummond - 3 yr + RFA
Kravtsov - 1 yr
English - 1 yr
Middleton - 1 yr + team

Cap number 13/14: $34.84 (if Villanueva picks up option)
14/15: $15.8 before Monroe's Max

#8 chance in lottery
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Wolves:
Love - 3 yr 15m+ each
AK47 - player 10m
Roy - 1 yr? or is he retired again
Derrick Williams - 1 yr + team + RFA
JJ Barea - 2 yr
Luke Ridnour - 1 yr
Rubio - 2 yr + RFA
Shved - 2 yr + RFA
Stietsma - team
Dante Cunningham - team
Malcom Lee- 1 yr

Cap Number 13/14: $51.1 (45 if Roy is off the books) before the team options, etc
14/15: 23.2 before Rubio's RFA contract

#9 chance in lottery
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Raptors:
Rudy Gay - 1 yr + player ~18.5m each
Andrea Bargnani - 2 yr 11.5m each
Amir Johnson - 1 yr + team
Kyle Lowry - team
Landry Fields - 2 yr ~7m each
Kleiza - player
JV - 3 yr + RFA
Derozan - 4 yr at 9.5 each
Terence Ross - 3 yr + RFA
Aaron Gray - player
John Lucas III - 1 yr
Qunciy Acy - 1 yr + team

Cap number 13/14: $72
14/15: $55.76 (w/ Lowry gone)

#10 chance in lottery (don't get pick if not top 3)
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76ers:
Thad Young - 2 yr + player 9m each
Hawes - 1 yr
Jason Richardson - 1 yr + player
Evan Turner - 1 yr + RFA
Lavoy Allen - 1 yr
Kwame Brown - player
Jrue Holiday - 4 yr 11m each
Arnett Moultrie - 1 yr + team + RFA

Cap number 13/14: $46.1
14/15: 27.1 before Evan Turners contract (QO is 8.7m)

#11 chance in lottery
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Blazers:
LaMarcus Aldridge - 2 yr 14.5m each
Nicolas Batum - 3yr 11m each
Wesley Matthews - 2 yr 7m each
Damian Lillard - 3 yr + RFA
Joel Freeland - 2 yr
Eric Maynor - RFA
Meyers Leonard - 1 yr + team + RFA
Victor Claver - 1 yr + team + RFA
Pavlovic -team option
Will Barton - 1 yr + option

Cap number 13/14: $42.36
14/15: similar
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Mavericks:
Dirk - 1 yr 22.7m
Shawn Marion - 1 yr 9.3m
Vince Carter - 1 yr 3.1m
Darren Collison - RFA
Roddy Buckets - RFA
Jared Cunningham - 1 yr +team + option
Jae Crowder - 1 yr 788k

Cap number 13/14: $37.2 before RFAs
14/15: $0

#13 chance in lottery
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Jazz:
Marvin Williams - player option 7.5m
Derrick Favors - 1 yr + RFA
Enes Kanter - 1 yr + team + RFA
Gordon Hayward - 1 yr + RFA
Alec Burks - 1 yr + team + RFA
Jeremy Evans - 2 yr
Kevin Murphy - team option

Cap number 13/14: 25.66
14/15: 11m before Favors and Hayward's contracts

#14 chance in lottery
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b@llhog24
04-22-2013, 03:29 PM
Wizards or Pelicans. Probably the latter.

ManRam
04-22-2013, 03:32 PM
probably the pelicans.

any reason why you omitted Orlando?

LongWayFromHome
04-22-2013, 03:43 PM
probably the pelicans.

any reason why you omitted Orlando?

Yes. I was stupid and thought no one would pick them. Obviously they have some front court potential. They do have some pretty crappy contracts though.

bloomis1307
04-22-2013, 03:51 PM
I like the Cavs here.....I think with some time Thompson and Waiters become solid players and Kyrie is an injury free season away from stardom in my eyes. I also like what Speights and Anderson can do. They don't have too many trade chips but with good coaching and development they could be something in a couple years.

2nd probably Pelicans

Vazquez is on of the most underrated PGs in the NBA imo. Then you have a budding star in Davis and a trade chip in Gordon. Kind of biased though because I've always been a big fan of Ryan Anderson

Vampirate
04-22-2013, 03:52 PM
Have to go with the Wizards here.

ManRam
04-22-2013, 03:52 PM
Yes. I was stupid and thought no one would pick them. Obviously they have some front court potential. They do have some pretty crappy contracts though.

they're not the worst choice IMO.

those contracts aren't terrible.

hedo's contract is only half guaranteed next year. we can give him 6 million next year and send him on his way.
jameer's contract is also only half guaranteed in 2014/15. we can give him 4 million that year and send him on his way.
harrington's contract is only half guaranteed for the next two seasons. we could buy him out for ~3.5M a year right now.

afflalo has two years, 15 million left...but he's tradable.
davis has two years, 13 million left. he might be tradable.


after that, not a bad contract on the team. after next season, we could have a top 3 pick this year, a top 3 pick next year and ~20-30 million in contracts. it could conceivably be less if we can move afflalo or davis.


having $75M in contract next season doesn't matter. what matters is our cap space after next season, and we'll have a good amount. we're not going to be making splashes in free agency. i hope we suck again next year. get another high draft pick, let the youth (vucci, harris, harkless, nicholson, draft pick #1) grow and then make splashes in FA when we're close to contending.


i actually very much like where we are right now. obviously aren't the most attractive team here, but they aren't the worst IMO.

D-Leethal
04-22-2013, 03:53 PM
Cavs have the best player and thus, the highest ceiling, but damn that Wall-Beal backcourt would be fun as hell to build around. I'm stuck between Cavs and Wiz.

TWolves would be best equipped to 'win now' and build a team around, but I'm not sure they have as high a ceiling as the other 2. I think TWolves roster would be sort of maxed out at GSW level. I think the other two have much more room to grow.

PacersForLife
04-22-2013, 04:02 PM
Wizards.

WARRIORS@GR
04-22-2013, 04:19 PM
Cavs have the best playerHealthy Love is still > than Kyrie.

I'd take Twolves if we're talking next 1-2 years.

Otherwise Cavs or Pelicans.

jericho
04-22-2013, 04:28 PM
pistons. they already have the most difficult spots to fill C and pf. i can draft or get a point guard later the league is run by them. hire bryan shaw. get a shooting coach on drummond for the freaking free throws lol. trade for or draft for a good 3pt shooter (klay thompson, gallo something like that) and a perimeter defender. then just watch the new twin towers go to work.

Guppyfighter
04-22-2013, 04:29 PM
Timberwolves, Cavaliers, or Pelicans.

Probably the Cavaliers just because they play in the East.

THE GIPPER
04-22-2013, 04:32 PM
Damn what a good question. Cant decide between Wizards, Pelicans, Wolves and Cavs.

I think If I had to choose I'd pick either the Cavs (#3 chance at winning the lottery and 17th overall pick), or the Wizards. It also helps that those teams are in the East, because I dont see a team like the Wolves doing much in the West with OKC being just as young but wayyy better.

WARRIORS@GR
04-22-2013, 04:34 PM
*Probably the Cavaliers just because they play in the East.Yeah,this too.
If Kyrie,waiters,thompson live up to their potential and they add another piece or two,they could easily be a top 3 seed next 2-3 years.

sunnydayin'zona
04-22-2013, 04:38 PM
I dont know about anyone else, but I'm going with the Blazers. Their starting 5 is already really solid, and Lillard could be their No. 1 option. All they need is a good set of bench guys.

WARRIORS@GR
04-22-2013, 04:49 PM
I dont know about anyone else, but I'm going with the Blazers. Their starting 5 is already really solid, and Lillard could be their No. 1 option. All they need is a good set of bench guys.They could compete for the playoffs,but there is just not so big upside on them,besides lilard.
I think Aldridge is at his peak,and i think it's the same about hickson,batum,matthews too.
Leonard could develop to an above avg starting C.
Not much after that.

Manimal
04-22-2013, 05:05 PM
TWolves for sure. Two superstars in Rubio and Love. Two solid starters in Pekovic and Kirilenko. Role players like Shved and Budinger. That roster is set and ready to compete.

They have assets to make a trade. A Hall of Fame coach in Adelman.

Healthy that roster is ready to make a run.

broncosfan4eva
04-22-2013, 05:17 PM
in order...Sixers,Twolves, Cavs, Detroit

LayBraun
04-22-2013, 07:05 PM
I have to go with the Wolves. A core of Rubio-Love-Pek is very intriguing, they just have to be healthy all at once. Then fill in the roster with some solid veteran presence paired with a top 10 pick this upcoming draft (most likely) and I think the potential is very high.

ManningToTyree
04-22-2013, 07:47 PM
Cavs because of Kyrie.

Nola and Minny deserve consideration.

topdog
04-22-2013, 08:27 PM
I'd have to go with the Jazz. Favors, Kanter and a clean slate to work with not to mention potential S&T assets in Jefferson and Milsap and okay young players at the wing in Burks and Hayward.

Jarvo
04-23-2013, 01:02 AM
Philly, Wolves, Cavs, Blazers.

sunsfan88
04-23-2013, 01:29 AM
Were the Suns left off the poll on purpose?

Lol I see every other non playoff team but them.

I don't think anyone would want to GM their team but just thought it was funny to point it out.

odiz
04-23-2013, 02:17 AM
You gotta go with the Cavs IMO. They already have a really good nucleus with Kyrie, Waiters, Thompson and Varejao and a good shot at the #1 pick plus the 17th. If they are healthy next year they will be a playoff team considering they have a top 4 pick to add to the mix.

Raps18-19 Champ
04-23-2013, 03:03 AM
Cavs. You have a star already on the team, a potential top 3 pick AND cap space to add a star player.

Bravo95
04-23-2013, 03:11 AM
Blazers, by a pretty good distance. They have a future star who has the right mindset (Lillard), and good co-star (LMA), and another solid wing (Batum). Just need some guys who can defend and a better bench.

dalton749
04-23-2013, 03:14 AM
Raptors because the have jonas valanciunas. Duh
pistons have nobody good

NoahH
04-23-2013, 03:30 AM
Ill take Seattle

JiffyMix88
04-23-2013, 08:22 AM
I picked the Magic how are they not listed???

LongWayFromHome
04-23-2013, 10:55 AM
Were the Suns left off the poll on purpose?

Lol I see every other non playoff team but them.

I don't think anyone would want to GM their team but just thought it was funny to point it out.

:) I left the Suns and Magic off. I just felt like nobody would pick them and it wasn't worth the effort to give a rundown of them. After reconsidering I realized that some good arguments could be made for the Magic...still not the suns.

To rip my own team - I don't think anyone would pick the Mavs either except that they currently have $0 in cap committed for next summer and Dirk will play for like 7 mil and shouldn't diminish too much because his game isn't based off athleticism.

Ark45
04-23-2013, 11:15 AM
Either the Cavs or the Pelicans

mightybosstone
04-23-2013, 11:27 AM
This is a really tough one. At first glance I thought Cavs or T-Wolves, but the Pelicans certainly have potential if Davis' superstardom comes to fruition. I also wouldn't mind taking over Portland. No team has had to deal with more bad luck over the last decade than the Blazers, but they have a ton of talent on that team: Lillard, Aldridge, Batum, Hickson. If I'm the Blazers, I see if I can't get someone to take Matthews' contract, re-sign Hickson and see if I couldn't entice a superstar to Portland to play with that core.

BULLSFAN0810
04-23-2013, 12:20 PM
Pistons with Drummond and Monroe looks real promising. And maybe Toronto with Gay and Derozan and Lowry. Good starter pieces

b@llhog24
04-23-2013, 12:23 PM
Cavs. You have a star already on the team, a potential top 3 pick AND cap space to add a star player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN0WqSeCKW8

todu82
04-23-2013, 12:59 PM
The Cavs. I think if they get the right coach for next season and add some solid players in the draft and the off-season they could contend for the post-season next year.

Stinkyoutsider
04-23-2013, 01:06 PM
Tough question but I went with the Cavs because of Irving. Solid bigs (once Varejao comes back and is healthy) and a good wing player in Waiters.

I almost chose the Pistons because there's not as many bigs with star potential as point guards. I think Monroe is almost there already and Drummond isn't far behind (both Drummond and the Pistons have to develop a plan that will improve his free throw shooting).

Shlumpledink
04-23-2013, 01:16 PM
If the cavs can stay healthy they can easily get into the playoffs next year. That's at least a .500 club

Raps18-19 Champ
04-23-2013, 01:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN0WqSeCKW8

There's more than enough perennial star players out there you can overpay for. Or wait till King James comes back.

SACNYY
04-23-2013, 01:24 PM
Jazz

TheTreys
04-23-2013, 01:30 PM
Cavaliers in the long term because of kyrie Irving. I was gonna say the T-Wolves but Kevin Love will prolly leave or get traded.

b@llhog24
04-23-2013, 01:31 PM
There's more than enough perennial star players out there you can overpay for. Or wait till King James comes back.

Got any in mind?

NewEraFt.ET12
04-23-2013, 01:41 PM
Cavs, Magic, Jazz, or Pelicans. How the hell do the Raptors have the 2nd most votes? Def the worst roster/contracts on that list.

ghettosean
04-23-2013, 02:08 PM
Voted Cavs.. They already have a superstar on there team and a young core and a lot of room to grow.