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davids22
04-02-2013, 11:32 PM
LOS ANGELES -- Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban would be willing to give Baylor women's star Brittney Griner the opportunity to prove she could play in the NBA.

Cuban said he would consider selecting Griner, a 6-foot-8 three-time All-American and Big 12 player of the year, in the second round of the NBA draft. If the Mavs don't draft her, Cuban said he would have "no problem whatsoever" inviting Griner to try out for a spot on Dallas' summer league team.

"If she is the best on the board, I will take her," Cuban said before the Mavs' Tuesday night game against the Los Angeles Lakers. "I've thought about it. I've thought about it already. Would I do it? Right now, I'd lean toward yes, just to see if she can do it. You never know unless you give somebody a chance, and it's not like the likelihood of any late-50s draft pick has a good chance of making it."

Griner dominated women's college basketball with her size and athleticism, scoring 3,283 points and blocking 748 shots in her career. She also had 18 dunks, including 11 her senior season.

A woman trying out for an NBA team is not unprecedented. Former UCLA star Ann Meyers tried out for the Indiana Pacers in 1979.

Cuban said it's difficult to evaluate whether Griner could play in the NBA because of the caliber of her competition, comparing it to scouting players from small schools. However, Cuban said he was absolutely serious about at least extending an invitation for Griner to try out this summer.

"She'd still have to make the team," Cuban said. "I'm not going to carry her just to carry her. I don't think, anyways. But I certainly wouldn't be opposed to giving her the opportunity."

Cuban acknowledged that Griner playing in the NBA's Las Vegas summer league would have tremendous marketing potential.

"It would, wouldn't it? See how she could do?" Cuban said. "That'd sell out a few games."

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/9127664/mark-cuban-give-brittney-griner-opportunity-dallas-mavericks

DumDum
04-02-2013, 11:43 PM
In b4 close

WITZ
04-02-2013, 11:47 PM
Wasn't April fools yesterday :laugh2:

Cromedome
04-02-2013, 11:55 PM
http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/tournament/2013/story/_/id/9119914/robert-griffin-iii-defends-brittney-griner-twitter

She sounds like Melo and looks like NBA veteran Brian Grant. I'd give her a chance in the NBA.

IgglesFanInCO
04-03-2013, 12:12 AM
she'll get shat on in the d-league

shes a center...... if any position will change drastically in terms of opposing athleticism its that one

she is 6-8, and dominates by pure overbearing advantage in athleticism, which she wont have in the d-league

i hope she makes it to the d-league so i can get a good laugh

if she was at least a pg or something.... i could see a woman succeeding in the NBA

xabial
04-03-2013, 12:16 AM
In b4 close

If an undrafted Asian 6-3 PG from Harvard who received Zero college scholarships, was cut twice by two NBA teams averaged 22.5 points and 8.7 assists the last twelve games before the all star break helping surge his 8-15 team into the playoffs then I believe anything is possible. I can defiantly see her changing her position though.

If a 5'9 Isiah Thomas is regularly getting 25-30 minutes for an NBA team in 71 games this season (granted its the Kings but still) and contributing about 14 points and 4 assists, then I believe one day we will see a woman in the NBA. (Worst case scenario I can see a specialist making it who plays as much D as Nash, Scalabrine, and Ben Gordon combined.)

Jint.
04-03-2013, 12:18 AM
Is this even allowed?

Griner = Jared Jeffries

LAcowBOMBER
04-03-2013, 12:27 AM
If Mark Madsen made a team, I feel like she could too

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 12:29 AM
I knew she was a man

DumDum
04-03-2013, 12:33 AM
If an undrafted Asian 6-3 PG from Harvard who received Zero college scholarships, was cut twice by two NBA teams averaged 22.5 points and 8.7 assists the last twelve games before the all star break helping surge his 8-15 team into the playoffs then I believe anything is possible. I can defiantly see her changing her position though.

If a 5'9 Isiah Thomas is regularly getting 25-30 minutes for an NBA team in 71 games (granted its the Kings but still) and contributing about 14 points and 4 assists, then I believe one day we will see a woman in the NBA. (Worst case scenario I can see a specialist making it who plays as much D as Nash, Scalabrine, and Ben Gordon combined.)

Put the Vince McMahon opening music on NO CHANCE !!

homestarunner93
04-03-2013, 12:33 AM
"She" could never make an NBA team. "She" has dunked like, what, 10 or 12 times in her entire career at 6'8''? "She" has absolutely zero chance of making an NBA team based on merit, and the ONLY chance "she" has of even seeing an opportunity is with an owner like Cuban that will do anything to make a buck or two. "She" is only a show-pony and gimmick for an NBA team, not a legitimate roster player. It's like when Master P used to try out for the Kings.

DumDum
04-03-2013, 12:35 AM
"She" could never make an NBA team. "She" has dunked like, what, 10 or 12 times in her entire career at 6'8''? "She" has absolutely zero chance of making an NBA team based on merit, and the ONLY chance "she" has of even seeing an opportunity is with an owner like Cuban that will do anything to make a buck or two. "She" is only a show-pony and gimmick for an NBA team, not a legitimate roster player. It's like when Master P used to try out for the Kings.

"She":rolleyes:

ManningToTyree
04-03-2013, 12:44 AM
She is manly Chris Copeland

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 12:45 AM
if she's good enough...why not? if she doesn't make it...oh well. i don't see the problem here. why's everyone here getting their panties in a bunch for?

KobeOwnSU
04-03-2013, 12:52 AM
I hope she makes it.

Vampirate
04-03-2013, 12:53 AM
Centre is the most physically demanding position in the NBA, she'll need to switch positions if she wants to make a team imo. Having a good shot would go a long way as well.

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 12:53 AM
if she's good enough...why not? if she doesn't make it...oh well. i don't see the problem here. why's everyone here getting their panties in a bunch for?

Because its idiotic. A woman shouldn't be allowed to play in the NBA, especially when theres already a WNBA. Being a woman aside, shes not even close to being a NBA talent. This is only for selling tickets and getting attention. If anything, she is being exploited. For the sake of protecting her and what little integrity the NBA has left, this should not be allowed and it should be played off as a joke by Cuban.

xabial
04-03-2013, 12:56 AM
if she's good enough...why not? if she doesn't make it...oh well. i don't see the problem here. why's everyone here getting their panties in a bunch for?

A woman making an NBA team (not even playing for one...) just Making an NBA team. Blasphemy.

Allphakenny1
04-03-2013, 12:59 AM
If an undrafted Asian 6-3 PG from Harvard who received Zero college scholarships, was cut twice by two NBA teams averaged 22.5 points and 8.7 assists the last twelve games before the all star break helping surge his 8-15 team into the playoffs then I believe anything is possible. I can defiantly see her changing her position though.

If a 5'9 Isiah Thomas is regularly getting 25-30 minutes for an NBA team in 71 games this season (granted its the Kings but still) and contributing about 14 points and 4 assists, then I believe one day we will see a woman in the NBA. (Worst case scenario I can see a specialist making it who plays as much D as Nash, Scalabrine, and Ben Gordon combined.)

Lin was cut by Dallas after having a dominant preseason against NBA level talent and many teams showed interest in him. Golden State let him go because they wanted a chance at DeAndre Jordan and dod not have enough cap room. Not one team cut him because he was a scrub. Griner dominates womens college basketball because she is bigger and stronger and she will not have that advantage against men. At 6'8 she will be a small forward. Can you imagine her guarding or even trying to score against the likes of James, Durant or Anthony?

Jarvo
04-03-2013, 01:03 AM
If Mark Madsen made a team, I feel like she could too

Lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo!

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 01:04 AM
Because its idiotic. A woman shouldn't be allowed to play in the NBA, especially when theres already a WNBA. Being a woman aside, shes not even close to being a NBA talent. This is only for selling tickets and getting attention. If anything, she is being exploited. For the sake of protecting her and what little integrity the NBA has left, this should not be allowed and it should be played off as a joke by Cuban.

why? because she's a woman? again...if she's good enough...why not? and how would you know she's not good enough without given her a chance? again...because she's a woman? you do realize that this "woman" can probably kick your butt in basketball riiiight? despite the fact that you're a "man?"

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:08 AM
why? because she's a woman? again...if she's good enough...why not?

This is only for selling tickets and getting attention. If anything, she is being exploited. For the sake of protecting her and what little integrity the NBA has left, this should not be allowed and it should be played off as a joke by Cuban.

Do you like that a person is being exploited? And she can't play at all. I can argue that she wouldn't even dominate in the WNBA.

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 01:09 AM
This is only for selling tickets and getting attention. If anything, she is being exploited. For the sake of protecting her and what little integrity the NBA has left, this should not be allowed and it should be played off as a joke by Cuban.

Do you like that a person is being exploited? And she can't play at all. I can argue that she wouldn't even dominate in the WNBA.

how do you know she's being exploited? what are you basing that on? or are you assuming because we're dealing with a woman?

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:10 AM
If an undrafted Asian 6-3 PG from Harvard who received Zero college scholarships, was cut twice by two NBA teams averaged 22.5 points and 8.7 assists the last twelve games before the all star break helping surge his 8-15 team into the playoffs then I believe anything is possible. I can defiantly see her changing her position though.

If a 5'9 Isiah Thomas is regularly getting 25-30 minutes for an NBA team in 71 games this season (granted its the Kings but still) and contributing about 14 points and 4 assists, then I believe one day we will see a woman in the NBA. (Worst case scenario I can see a specialist making it who plays as much D as Nash, Scalabrine, and Ben Gordon combined.)

Just because she looks like a man doesn't mean she can play against men. She would get absolutely destroyed matched up with anyone in the NBA.

ThaDubs
04-03-2013, 01:11 AM
Next thing you know men will be trying to get in the WNBA. :laugh2:

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:11 AM
how do you know she's being exploited? what are you basing that on? or are you assuming because we're dealing with a woman?

Nope you're right. Its not for media attention. Its actually because she can clearly play in a man's league. :rolleyes:.


Cuban acknowledged that Griner playing in the NBA's Las Vegas summer league would have tremendous marketing potential.

"It would, wouldn't it? See how she could do?" Cuban said. "That'd sell out a few games."

Nope Cuban isn't looking to sell a few games.

Avenged
04-03-2013, 01:12 AM
I hope so! The Mavs will suck for a while :)

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:12 AM
Next thing you know men will be trying to get in the WNBA. :laugh2:


if he's good enough...why not? if he doesn't make it...oh well. i don't see the problem here. why's everyone here getting their panties in a bunch for?

^ Thats what my reply would be for that thread....

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 01:14 AM
Nope you're right. Its not for media attention. Its actually because she can clearly play in a man's league. :rolleyes:.



Nope Cuban isn't looking to sell a few games.

she only would sellout games if she actually performs. no one's going to pay to watch a player sit on a bench.

a "man's league?" because a woman can NEVER do anything as good as a man right? you do realize this "woman" can probably kick your butt in basketball right?

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:16 AM
she only would sellout games if she actually performs. no one's going to pay to watch a player sit on a bench.

a "man's league?" because a woman can NEVER do anything as good as a man right? you do realize this "woman" can probably kick your butt in basketball right?

All the WNBA players can probably beat me in basketball... so what? Theres a league for woman: its called the WNBA. Its called a mans league because men play in it... stop trying to turn this into a sexist thing. Lets not even assume she can play in the NBA because she can't. Shes only decent in college because of her height.

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 01:16 AM
^ Thats what my reply would be for that thread....

well first of all...it's called WOMEN'S National Basketball Association. i don't see "men" anywhere in NBA so meaning it's not sex exclusive. that's why it will be weird to see a man playing in WOMAN'S National Basketball Association and not for a woman to play in the National Basketball's Association.

Allphakenny1
04-03-2013, 01:18 AM
why? because she's a woman? again...if she's good enough...why not? and how would you know she's not good enough without given her a chance? again...because she's a woman? you do realize that this "woman" can probably kick your butt in basketball riiiight? despite the fact that you're a "man?"

I am not sure about John Walls Era, but I can tell you it is not because she is a woman. Griner is not physically strong enough or nearly skilled enough to play with the best male basketball players in the world. If a woman stands a chance in the league, it is as a lights out 3 point shooter who will most likely play little defense.

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:18 AM
well first of all...it's called WOMEN'S National Basketball Association. i don't see "men" anywhere in NBA so meaning it's not sex exclusive. that's why it will be weird to see a man playing in WOMAN'S National Basketball Association and not for a woman to play in the National Basketball's Association.

I guess we should just make the NHL, NFL, MLB, all co-ed since they don't have the term "MEN" in there.

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 01:18 AM
All the WNBA players can probably beat me in basketball... so what? Theres a league for woman: its called the WNBA.

so what? you're making an argument that a woman shouldn't even be allowed to TRIED to be in the NBA because they're a woman and woman's cannot be as talented athletically in sports as men. i just proved you wrong and made you admit you were wrong.

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:19 AM
so what? you're making an argument that a woman shouldn't even be allowed to TRIED to be in the NBA because they're a woman and woman's cannot be as talented athletically in sports as men. i just proved you wrong and made you admit you were wrong.

Yeah theres women as talented as men in basketball everywhere. You're really proving me wrong. :laugh: They're just as physically strong too.....

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 01:20 AM
I guess we should just make the NHL, NFL, MLB, all co-ed since they don't have the term "MEN" in there.

why not? if they're good enough. i dont see being a man as a requirement to play in any of those leagues in any of the rule books. the only prerequisite is if you are talented enough.

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 01:21 AM
Yeah theres women as talented as men in basketball everywhere. You're really proving me wrong. :laugh: They're just as physically strong too.....

i did. i proved to you that a woman can beat a man in basketball. and i bet this woman: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/05/article-2110301-1208114E000005DC-111_470x542.jpg can beat you and half the players in the NBA in arm wrestling.

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:22 AM
bet this woman: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/05/article-2110301-1208114E000005DC-111_470x542.jpg can beat you and half the players in the NBA in arm wrestling.

i hope so. shes on steroids. And let me get this straight... Im not comparing her to myself, Im comparing to men that are in the NBA....

You make it seem like Im the type of person shes going to be playing against. Shes going to get completely destroyed by stronger and faster 6-8 players.

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 01:24 AM
i hope so. shes on steroids. And let me get this straight... Im not comparing her to myself, Im comparing to men that are in the NBA....

You make it seem like Im the type of person shes going to be playing against. Shes going to get completely destroyed by stronger and faster 6-8 players.

nope. you're making an argument that woman shouldn't be allowed to play in the NBA (your own words) because woman can never be as good or talented as man when that is obviously incorrect because...again, in your own words, all the players in the WNBA can kick your butt in basketball. so the premises that man > woman is wrong which destroys your whole argument.

again...if she's good enough. why not?

SlimKid
04-03-2013, 01:26 AM
No logical reason offered yet as to why giving her a shot is so blasphemous.. who really cares? If she can't play - it's over.

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:29 AM
nope. you're making an argument that woman shouldn't be allowed to play in the NBA (your own words) because woman can never be as good or talented as man when that is obviously in correct because...again, in your own words, all the players in the WNBA can kick your butt in basketball. so the premises that man > woman is wrong.

again...if she's good enough. why not?

Woman can never be as talented as men at basketball (talking exclusively about NBA talent). That is true. Because they are not as strong or fast (scientifically proven).

I said that she shouldn't even be given a chance because it would be a joke. She would be completely exposed and would get embarrased. The Mavs would sell out a few D-league games and get some exposure there.

Also you need to stop making comparisons with me in them because (even though I appreciate it) I am no where near a NBA talent. Neither is Griner for that case, but she will have a niche in the WNBA.

LAcowBOMBER
04-03-2013, 01:33 AM
She should be given a shot, but I have to agree with JWE. She would get absolutely torched on both ends of the court. She would also be run ragged by any NBA player her height or dominated by much stronger front court players

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:34 AM
She should be given a shot, but I have to agree with JWE. She would get absolutely torched on both ends of the court. She would also be run ragged by any NBA player her height or dominated by much stronger front court players

Thank You. Im not being sexist. But I disagree with giving her any shot at all. Im saying don't give her a chance for her own good. She would get absolutely destroyed and embarrased. Just for some attention on Cuban's team.

LongWayFromHome
04-03-2013, 01:38 AM
If Mark Madsen made a team, I feel like she could too


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1ciMXvSE8U

Allphakenny1
04-03-2013, 01:40 AM
Why compare Griner to some guy who is on a sprots forum, compare her to back up NBA level talent. If you really feel like she can compete with the best male players in the world then you are delusional. It is not being sexist, it is being realistic.

FOBolous
04-03-2013, 01:45 AM
Thank You. Im not being sexist. But I disagree with giving her any shot at all. Im saying don't give her a chance for her own good. She would get absolutely destroyed and embarrased. Just for some attention on Cuban's team.

dude you still haven't answer my question. if she's good enough...why not?

KingPosey
04-03-2013, 01:45 AM
Ya ****ing right. He is not the stupidest person on the planet so he won't do that.

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:46 AM
dude you still haven't answer my question. if she's good enough...why not?

Shes not. So lets not even go there. Have you seen her play? SHe won't even dominate the WNBA. Idc for hypothetical what ifs. Shes not a NBA talent and she couldn't even play in the NBA d-league or even Men NCAA Div 3.

Thats why im completely against giving her any chance. Just like I would be if Cuban drafted someone from PSD to play for the Mavs. Its almost as ridiculous. She can't play in the NBA and its not even close.

KingPosey
04-03-2013, 01:46 AM
dude you still haven't answer my question. if she's good enough...why not?

Well she isn't anywhere good enough to play in the NBA, she would be awful just playing college men's basketball. It's silly for people to try to argue otherwise.

KingPosey
04-03-2013, 01:49 AM
why? because she's a woman? again...if she's good enough...why not? and how would you know she's not good enough without given her a chance? again...because she's a woman? you do realize that this "woman" can probably kick your butt in basketball riiiight? despite the fact that you're a "man?"
Because she couldn't play physically. Against men, she would be ridiculously weak, she's be absurdly slow, and the only position she can play wih her lack of footwork and speed and shooting is center.

Bu go ahead and argue that a slow, weak, 6-8 center with bad footwork and no outside game could play in the nba. And yes, men are physically superior to women, it's just biology man.

Oh and as an nba player the fact that she can't jump would also hinder her. She just can't play there man.

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:54 AM
Just from a biological stand point and to get Fobolous to give it up: YEAH SHE CANT PLAY BECAUSE SHES A WOMAN. Its proven that men are stronger and faster than women. Not being sexist. Its the truth. People have done research on this.

Now go and send me pics with roided up women and tell me they're stronger than me.... please go ahead. Because someone doesn't understand relativity. :rolleyes:.

kozelkid
04-03-2013, 02:02 AM
she only would sellout games if she actually performs. no one's going to pay to watch a player sit on a bench.

a "man's league?" because a woman can NEVER do anything as good as a man right? you do realize this "woman" can probably kick your butt in basketball right?

Don't be stupid. Even the most hardcore feminist can't deny that no woman would stand a chance against professional male athletes.

kozelkid
04-03-2013, 02:03 AM
dude you still haven't answer my question. if she's good enough...why not?

She isn't, so your question is pointless.

No "natural" woman will EVER be.

DumDum
04-03-2013, 02:27 AM
Why go nba and be a joke for half a season when she has a shot to be one the best women bigs ever in wnba when she Retires ?

AntiG
04-03-2013, 02:31 AM
If an undrafted Asian 6-3 PG from Harvard who received Zero college scholarships, was cut twice by two NBA teams averaged 22.5 points and 8.7 assists the last twelve games before the all star break helping surge his 8-15 team into the playoffs then I believe anything is possible. I can defiantly see her changing her position though.
That same Asian kid was the #1 high school baller in California as a senior in HS and is a man, and is all-in-all a phenomenal athlete with terrific speed, good ball-handling skills, stronger than his size indicates, terrific jumping ability, and can shoot pretty decently as well. Griner is a 6'8 female center with slow feet, not much stronger than a typical teenage boy and poor shooting range and dribbling skills.

Their cases are not close to comparable and its a joke that you even put that out there.

KingPosey
04-03-2013, 03:41 AM
Remember when Artie Lange beat a legit division one girls ball player one on one? Enough said.

LAcowBOMBER
04-03-2013, 03:51 AM
I was joking with my Madsen comment before, but seriously just compare the two of them. Madsen would be massively better than her and he was a tall hustle player that rarely saw playing time. She would have no shot in the NBA. Luke Walton would mop the floor with her

shep33
04-03-2013, 03:58 AM
I understand that she's amazing and could be the best women's player ever, but c'mon now.

Fukudome
04-03-2013, 03:59 AM
Griner is the tallest player on the court a good majority of the time against other women. In the NBA, a vast majority of the SF are 6'8 and above. Theoretically speaking, she would have to shift to SF/PF; she doesn't have the lateral quickness to stay with someone like a Luol Deng, let alone LBJ or KD and she would be outmuscled down low against PF's not due to lack of skill, but due to a lack of size/weight.

I agree with JWE in the previous debate. No one is saying she doesn't have some talent, but the game is vastly different between women and men. Sure, give her a shot, but it's not going to go anywhere when someone like Nazr Mohammed is able to do as he pleases in the post.

shep33
04-03-2013, 04:01 AM
What I think people don't understand is how good NBA players are.

LAcowBOMBER
04-03-2013, 04:38 AM
Seriously, like who is the worst NBA player currently that is 6'8" or taller? That person would be much better. She can't jump and is slow at 6'9" and does not a lot of mass

Vancity
04-03-2013, 05:29 AM
Seriously, like who is the worst NBA player currently that is 6'8" or taller? That person would be much better. She can't jump and is slow at 6'9" and does not a lot of mass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXor2Hu7TQ

bigger hands then LeBron, 7'3.5 wingspan. someone should work with her on her handles and game. If she wants it.

LAcowBOMBER
04-03-2013, 05:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXor2Hu7TQ

bigger hands then LeBron, 7'3.5 wingspan. someone should work with her on her handles and game. If she wants it.

You're saying if she gets good at basketball she will be good. She is slow, not strong and can't shoot compared to NBA players. She also has no position. She weighs 175 lbs! Imagine her guarding any power forward, literally any one. It would be a horrible mismatch. She is nowhere near the talent of a Samaki Walker. If you put her on the wing she would be drastically more exposed

LAcowBOMBER
04-03-2013, 05:51 AM
I just watched some more of her highlights, she has 2 post moves and that's kinda pushing it. She post up and turns left or right and shoots. She doesn't even fade away because she towers over her opponents. I still feel very confident in making the statement that Luke Walton would absolutely dominate her in a game

Bigbadmoffo
04-03-2013, 06:06 AM
Nba players are a bunch of girls Like Dwade so why not?

The goods
04-03-2013, 06:27 AM
Lin was cut by Dallas after having a dominant preseason against NBA level talent and many teams showed interest in him. Golden State let him go because they wanted a chance at DeAndre Jordan and dod not have enough cap room. Not one team cut him because he was a scrub. Griner dominates womens college basketball because she is bigger and stronger and she will not have that advantage against men. At 6'8 she will be a small forward. Can you imagine her guarding or even trying to score against the likes of James, Durant or Anthony?

Or Metta World Peace. Lol

Il Mago50
04-03-2013, 07:05 AM
This is complete bull**** I'm sorry, I don't want to sound sexist but it has to be said.

The best high school players in the country would do laps around the best players of all-time in the WNBA.

Physically, men are much stronger, bigger usually and in the case of basketball, much more explosive athletes.

Imagine what Amir Johnson would do to Britney Griner.

Here's ten guys that struggle somewhat against NBA players on both ends and you tell me how they'd fare: Reggie Evans, Kris Humphries, Josh McRoberts, Linas Kleiza, Timofy Mozgov, Elton Brand, Hasheem Thabeet, Derrick Williams, etc.

They would all torch her.

Physically, it just doesn't make sense. If being somewhat skilled and big (which she's not she's 6'8" not 7'2) we would not see as many good big guy prospects out of college go undrafted or end up in Europe.

The NBA is a league for the best basketball players in the world and Britney Griner is a McDonalds American player at best compared to even the worst of NBA players in her mold, not even close to someone that can play against grown pro-level men.

LeperMessiah
04-03-2013, 07:09 AM
He says it, but probably won't.

BullsFan_1
04-03-2013, 07:45 AM
She'd probably make it because other players wouldn't touch her while she's backing down in the post in fear of a sexual harassment lawsuit.

I bet they couldn't slap her butt either.

jp611
04-03-2013, 08:12 AM
"She" could never make an NBA team. "She" has dunked like, what, 10 or 12 times in her entire career at 6'8''? "She" has absolutely zero chance of making an NBA team based on merit, and the ONLY chance "she" has of even seeing an opportunity is with an owner like Cuban that will do anything to make a buck or two. "She" is only a show-pony and gimmick for an NBA team, not a legitimate roster player. It's like when Master P used to try out for the Kings.

Completely ignorant statement

JoeBlessU
04-03-2013, 08:33 AM
The heat should take her, it would really toughen up their front court.

torocan
04-03-2013, 08:46 AM
Meh.

Personally I don't see why people are getting worked up over this.

IF she wants to try to get in the NBA, and Cuban is willing to let her do a try out and play in the D-League to see if she has the potential to develop into a usable player, who are we to complain? Sounds consensual to me.

That said, I don't think he should use a draft pick. Try out, if they like her put her on the D-league team and potentially summer league, and let her earn her stripes like the other 99% that don't get picked in the lottery. If it turns out she can cut it or has the potential to gain the strength and skills to make a roster, she'll get picked up. If she doesn't, at least she knows she tried and nobody can complain that nobody ever gave her a chance.

Think of it as similar to open try outs in football. If a woman wants to walk on the field, let her take her bumps like everyone else. If she's good enough, she's good enough.

And if she's not, she still might be good enough to get a spot overseas. Who are we to deny her the opportunity to make her living at what she loves? Even if she's only good enough to play in an International league, that would be a big step forward for women in basketball.

Why is that a problem?

Mile High Champ
04-03-2013, 09:21 AM
In today's NBA with all the joke rules in play protecting players at every turn on offense, I don't doubt she could at least come off the bench. Now if we are talking about the league from 15 years ago, not a chance.

gatkins11
04-03-2013, 09:24 AM
Lin was cut by Dallas after having a dominant preseason against NBA level talent and many teams showed interest in him. Golden State let him go because they wanted a chance at DeAndre Jordan and dod not have enough cap room. Not one team cut him because he was a scrub. Griner dominates womens college basketball because she is bigger and stronger and she will not have that advantage against men. At 6'8 she will be a small forward. Can you imagine her guarding or even trying to score against the likes of James, Durant or Anthony?

Wrong, he chose Golden State over Dallas after that preseason.

Faneik
04-03-2013, 09:41 AM
why? because she's a woman? again...if she's good enough...why not? and how would you know she's not good enough without given her a chance? again...because she's a woman? you do realize that this "woman" can probably kick your butt in basketball riiiight? despite the fact that you're a "man?"

I'm from Ticha Penicheiro's hometown.

I've played against her in pick-up games. There were men playing against her who were in the Portuguese Basketball Premier League, and she held her own.

The thing is, she's a PG, and it was summer off-season pick up games. No one was playing physical basketball against her.

With that said, I think Cuban is joking and we won't see her trying out for any NBA team.

If they let her, they should let Bosh go dominate in the WNBA.

sep11ie
04-03-2013, 10:37 AM
She's gonna make an honest woman outta Dirk.

NoahH
04-03-2013, 10:47 AM
This is complete bull**** I'm sorry, I don't want to sound sexist but it has to be said.

The best high school players in the country would do laps around the best players of all-time in the WNBA.

Physically, men are much stronger, bigger usually and in the case of basketball, much more explosive athletes.

Imagine what Amir Johnson would do to Britney Griner.

Here's ten guys that struggle somewhat against NBA players on both ends and you tell me how they'd fare: Reggie Evans, Kris Humphries, Josh McRoberts, Linas Kleiza, Timofy Mozgov, Elton Brand, Hasheem Thabeet, Derrick Williams, etc.

They would all torch her.

Physically, it just doesn't make sense. If being somewhat skilled and big (which she's not she's 6'8" not 7'2) we would not see as many good big guy prospects out of college go undrafted or end up in Europe.

The NBA is a league for the best basketball players in the world and Britney Griner is a McDonalds American player at best compared to even the worst of NBA players in her mold, not even close to someone that can play against grown pro-level men.

You hit the nail on the head with this one. Especially the part where you said all these big guys in college going undrafted.

Personally I just DONT see Griner succeeding in the NBA. From what i've seen, she relies on her unbelievable athleticism and size COMPARED to other women to dominate, but in the NBA, 6-8 208 pounds is nothing special and she will get eaten alive down low. She wouldn't be able to adopt a new position so she'd have to play an undersized C. On top of that she doesn't have much of a post game, has no shot and is slowwwww. Imagine her going up against someone like Dwight or Reggie Evans. She wouldn't stand a chance. Reggie Evans would light her up for 30-30 no doubt.

Let's look at it this way. The average height of a WNBA player is 5'11 while the average height of an NBA is 6'7. Griner is the tallest athlete (other than that 7'2' beast) and is 9 inches taller than the average. Relatively an NBA male of that size / weight would be 7'5' and about 350 lbs. In short, she dominates because shes big and would only be average height in the NBA.

BKLYNpigeon
04-03-2013, 10:56 AM
Mark Cuban just says stuff because he just loves the ATTENTION...

ReJo
04-03-2013, 10:59 AM
NBA no way in hell. If Cuban wants to put her in the summer league it would be strictly to sell tickets

The question I have is could she play for the worst mens college team?
Grambling was 0-28 last year. Plays in the weak SWAC and got blown out in pretty much every game last year. Maybe she could be a 3rd or 4th player off the bench for them and play a couple of minutes a game at best. She may be able to get a screen or a backdoor cut and make a basket here or there but defensively she would be way out of her league. Men are just so much bigger and stronger.

c.c.
04-03-2013, 11:01 AM
Lol picture her trying to guard LeBron James. She would get bullied all the way to the basket every time

1-800-STFU
04-03-2013, 11:01 AM
The only way I could see a woman succeeding in the NBA is an off the bench 3pt threat.

DreamShaker
04-03-2013, 11:16 AM
I think Taurasi or Candace Parker had a more realistic shot than her.

rockets-fan
04-03-2013, 11:22 AM
Your kidding right...do you see what Griffin,D.Jordan, and these other big guys do to string men? Imagin what the would do to her, she wouldn't stand a chance.

MrfadeawayJB
04-03-2013, 11:35 AM
It would be destroyed in any Mens college game let alone the NBA :laugh:

atl_braves_fan
04-03-2013, 11:43 AM
All you need to know here is that she is a 6'8" center and one of her career highlights is that she had 11 dunks in a season (as 1 rim-scraping dunk every three games). There is no way she would be athletic enough to play in the NBA. That being said, I would love for her to play in the summer league and get dominated so that we could stop hearing this ridiculous argument.

BY the way, I am sure that Marc Gasol, Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, Cuttino Mobley, etc would be interested to hear that you can't find any talent late in the draft. Maybe the Mavericks should spend their time trying to identify the next sleeper talent and not chasing headlines by drafting a woman.

Blitzbolt
04-03-2013, 12:04 PM
I think she could do it easily she just has to play a few minutes a game vs the right player for example Luke walton or Ricky Rubio they both play like girls anyways.

IgglesFanInCO
04-03-2013, 12:05 PM
Oh my god all you guys trying to make this a sexist thing are the ones being sexist, the true form of tolerance is apathy mk? YOU SHOULDNT GIVE A FLYING **** IF SHES FEMALE

so imagine shes a dude, 6'8", not even D-league level athleticism, game based on dominating with athleticism so style cant possibly translate, has no fantastic outside shot, has played with a smaller ball entire life, went up against no tough competition in college

if this was a guy, it would be an insult to draft him, there are so many people out there who deserve a shot more than her and so her getting a shot based solely on the marketability of her sex is wrong, and theres no way around it

someday a woman might play in the NBA, but not THIS one, dont assume people are sexist just because they realize just how wrong this all is, gender shouldnt matter

R. Johnson#3
04-03-2013, 12:13 PM
I just watched some of her highlights. Nobody is tall enough to get a hand in her face. If she plays against guys taller than her, she's screwed.

Corey
04-03-2013, 12:16 PM
I love how offended people are getting at the thought of a woman in the NBA.

I hope she gets drafted...Just so people get more rustled.

29$JerZ
04-03-2013, 12:30 PM
The only way I could see a woman succeeding in the NBA is an off the bench 3pt threat.

She would have to be a Guard as well.

GoldDustTwin
04-03-2013, 12:31 PM
dude you still haven't answer my question. if she's good enough...why not?

It not that your question hasn't been answered it's that it's based on a completely flawed premise - "if she's good enough".

She's not.

It's that simple.

She'd have a lot of difficulty keeping up with all-state level high-school mens talent. Much less good mens college talent, much less low-echelon pro talent.

I'm not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that she could be "good enough" in the first place. Because she dominates, smaller, slower, less-quick, less-strong, less athletic, less physical (you getting the idea) women's basketball? That's not much of a measuring stick.

The issue's not about gender, as you're trying to make it - it's about talent and she doesn't have enough to sit on the bench for any of the field-of-64 NCAA teams, much less a pro team.

Cuban's trying to make a few bucks, stoke some interest - this is PT Barnum, not Red Auerbach.

Put her in the post for one quarter with a role player like Jason Maxiel, and she'd get destroyed - utterly.

I'm astonished you can't realize that.

Hawkeye15
04-03-2013, 12:38 PM
She isn't good enough to play for a top 60 NCAA Men's team, let alone the NBA. This will be a PR stunt if he throws her on his summer team for instance, but there is no chance she makes an NBA roster.

LongWayFromHome
04-03-2013, 12:42 PM
It not that your question hasn't been answered it's that it's based on a completely flawed premise - "if she's good enough".

She's not.

It's that simple.

She'd have a lot of difficulty keeping up with all-state level high-school mens talent. Much less good mens college talent, much less low-echelon pro talent.

I'm not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that she could be "good enough" in the first place. Because she dominates, smaller, slower, less-quick, less-strong, less athletic, less physical (you getting the idea) women's basketball? That's not much of a measuring stick.

The issue's not about gender, as you're trying to make it - it's about talent and she doesn't have enough to sit on the bench for any of the field-of-64 NCAA teams, much less a pro team.

Cuban's trying to make a few bucks, stoke some interest - this is PT Barnum, not Red Auerbach.

Put her in the post for one quarter with a role player like Jason Maxiel, and she'd get destroyed - utterly.

I'm astonished you can't realize that.

:worthy:

I always tell people "Look at Danica Patrick. Look at the Michele Wie experiment." If women are even close to good enough people snatch them up because it is such a good money maker." If Griner was even close to good enough for the NBA she would be a starter for some men's ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Big East, SEC, Pac 10, etc team right now. And if she could start for a big college men's team she WOULD. It would make so much money for them! Its not because she's a woman! In fact, in mens pro sports, the bar for a woman playing is lower because of the money it will bring in.

Burkey3472
04-03-2013, 12:49 PM
People are insane if they feel she could make an NBA team. She dominating in college because she was just bigger than everyone else, that would go away in the NBA. Her height and length would be at best on par with other PF but her strength, weight, and skill wouldn't even touch some of the worst PFs in the game (not to mention, she'd be slow as dirt).

MadtownMonster
04-03-2013, 12:49 PM
Umm... really Cuban? In what world will she be the "best player available" in the 2nd rd? The only reason Cuban would invite her to try out undrafted is purely for a publicity stunt. Even the mention of Cubans interest is a story. Let her go to the WNBA where she belongs, where she WILL be a star and leave her out of the NBA or D-League where she'll be only a joke.

mjt20mik
04-03-2013, 01:03 PM
she won't make it

topdog
04-03-2013, 01:08 PM
Is this even allowed?

Griner = Jared Jeffries

That was my initial thought/question when I first read the article. I thought it was perhaps 100% hypothetical, but the piece makes it sound as if there is nothing keeping Griner from trowing her name in the draft.

Stinkyoutsider
04-03-2013, 01:18 PM
This is great for everyone involved. I hope she makes it!

And, if it doesn't work out, then oh well? She'll still be the top pick in the WNBA draft and will be a star in that league for a long while.

It's going to be tough...

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 01:38 PM
I love how offended people are getting at the thought of a woman in the NBA.

I hope she gets drafted...Just so people get more rustled.

Yeah.. Its cuz shes a woman. Not because she sucks.

KingPosey
04-03-2013, 02:19 PM
The only way I could see a woman succeeding in the NBA is an off the bench 3pt threat.

It wouldn't even get that far. He would be passed her in half a step.

prodigy
04-03-2013, 02:32 PM
She can def play in college mens basketball for sure.

As far as the NBA goes she can't. Because she don't have the dribbles or speed to play SF and no way in heck she can play C or PF. I love her and think she's a great player. She'll be making millions in the WNBA and even more with sponcers and shoe deals etc...

dalton749
04-03-2013, 02:34 PM
****** be dunkin on her just to give her the d

GoldDustTwin
04-03-2013, 03:36 PM
She can def play in college mens basketball for sure.

As far as the NBA goes she can't. Because she don't have the dribbles or speed to play SF and no way in heck she can play C or PF. I love her and think she's a great player. She'll be making millions in the WNBA and even more with sponcers and shoe deals etc...

She would "definitely play in men's college'??? For sure???

Why?

Is it because numerous programs are in dire need of a 6-8, slow, position-less player who isn't strong, can't jump, can't handle the ball, can't pass very well, has limited post moves, but who is deadly, albeit with a too-slow release, from 10 feet? Yea, they're a valued asset in the men's college game............

GiantsSwaGG
04-03-2013, 03:45 PM
Her and Mike James alone make them title favorites!

GiantsSwaGG
04-03-2013, 03:52 PM
If she is drafted would she shower in the men's locker room?

MLB2K10King
04-03-2013, 04:02 PM
Lin was cut by Dallas after having a dominant preseason against NBA level talent and many teams showed interest in him. Golden State let him go because they wanted a chance at DeAndre Jordan and dod not have enough cap room. Not one team cut him because he was a scrub. Griner dominates womens college basketball because she is bigger and stronger and she will not have that advantage against men. At 6'8 she will be a small forward. Can you imagine her guarding or even trying to score against the likes of James, Durant or Anthony?

You sir are 100% correct. Its not sexist, its just practical.

hoggin88
04-03-2013, 04:10 PM
There is no way in hell Griner could make it in the NBA.

PleaseBeNice
04-03-2013, 04:31 PM
i hope she makes it to put a rest to all the people who think a girl would be able to play in the NBA. she will get SHUT THE **** DOWN

Sandman
04-03-2013, 04:35 PM
Nope Cuban isn't looking to sell a few games.

hahahaha, from the horses mouth!

/argument

Tymathee
04-03-2013, 07:44 PM
why not? I'd give her a shot in the summer league as well, if she can hold her own, then she can go to the d-league, see if she can make it there and if she does really well there, then she can play in the NBA.

I always thought baseball would be first, but if Cuban goes thru with this, it'll be the NBA

John Walls Era
04-03-2013, 08:21 PM
Some of you must really be into bondage porn and bdsm. People want to see a woman take a beating and get ****ed up while being completely exploited by a franchise? It doesn't take a genius to know that she has no chance and that this is all for the sake of publicity.

homestarunner93
04-03-2013, 08:40 PM
Completely ignorant statement

Spare me :rolleyes:


why not? I'd give her a shot in the summer league as well, if she can hold her own, then she can go to the d-league, see if she can make it there and if she does really well there, then she can play in the NBA.

I always thought baseball would be first, but if Cuban goes thru with this, it'll be the NBA

"She" is garbage compared to NBA-level talent. "She" will never play in the NBA based on her own merit.

Lakers + Giants
04-03-2013, 08:47 PM
Next thing you know men will be trying to get in the WNBA. :laugh2:

Dream come true for Gasol, he might be considered tough there. . . MIGHT.

NewEraFt.ET12
04-03-2013, 09:49 PM
She is a 6'8 stick figure with terrible mobility, can't jump, and can't shoot. She doesn't do anything well other than be 8 inches taller than her competition. Is this a joke?

KnicksorBust
04-03-2013, 10:01 PM
1. She'll be too slow and unathletic.
2. Cuban just being a media attention whore.

Verbal Christ
04-03-2013, 10:27 PM
If I was a Mav fan I would be very,very embarassed right about now.

Aust
04-03-2013, 10:43 PM
Not even funny. She would get destroyed.

xabial
04-03-2013, 10:58 PM
Lin was cut by Dallas after having a dominant preseason against NBA level talent and many teams showed interest in him. Golden State let him go because they wanted a chance at DeAndre Jordan and dod not have enough cap room. Not one team cut him because he was a scrub. Griner dominates womens college basketball because she is bigger and stronger and she will not have that advantage against men. At 6'8 she will be a small forward. Can you imagine her guarding or even trying to score against the likes of James, Durant or Anthony?

What are you talking about? When any NBA team cuts you your either a scrub or they consider you a scrub. There's 15 guys on the roster, and if the team thinks all 15 players on the roster would contribute more then they think your a scrub.

SLY WILLIAMS
04-04-2013, 11:57 AM
Cuban is very good at getting his name in the papers. I'm sure he would invite her to try out. Its not the first time a NBA team invited a woman to try out for publicity. I doubt he will waste a draft pick on her though.

MaloDaw9
04-04-2013, 12:27 PM
Cuban is a fame whore plain and simple.

bigmac8675
04-04-2013, 01:45 PM
Are they allowed to draft people to do the teams laundry? lol

But seriously...what a joke it would be. She would get dominated by almost every player, on and off the court.

Hangtime
04-04-2013, 02:29 PM
I hope Cuban drafts her, it would make guys like Kwame Brown look like Shaq in the paint.

D-Leethal
04-04-2013, 02:31 PM
Cuban would be willing to completely embarrass the female race to make a buck on a few summer league games.

She would get ran right off the court.

Blitzace137
04-04-2013, 02:36 PM
Only sport I could see a women play in other than NASCAR and Golf is baseball. Baseball is a realistic sport women can play in and soccer as well. Only way I could see a woman play in the NBA is if she's a PG and even than it would be a long shot. Griner has no real position in the NBA.

Klivlend
04-04-2013, 02:38 PM
Only sport I could see a women play in other than NASCAR and Golf is baseball. Baseball is a realistic sport women can play in and soccer as well. Only way I could see a woman play in the NBA is if she's a PG and even than it will be a long shot. Griner has no real position in the NBA.

You have got to be kidding. Are you a chick? Cause if so, then your response makes sense.

Blitzace137
04-04-2013, 02:56 PM
You have got to be kidding. Are you a chick? Cause if so, then your response makes sense.

Your kidding right? I'm just trying to be realistic and not be a blind fool like you.

DaBUU
04-04-2013, 03:35 PM
I can already see locker room issues. There is going to be a lot of resentment when they realize she has the biggest shlong on the team.

Blitzace137
04-04-2013, 03:45 PM
Cuban would be willing to completely embarrass the female race to make a buck on a few summer league games.

She would get ran right off the court.

It's like when that girl was allowed to try out for the NFL team for a kickers position and completely embarrassed herself. There's a reason why the WNBA exists. Same goes for the UFC lady that was born a man and got a sex change. Shouldn't be allowed to compete with women because she still has a males build. Guys are just superior physically compared to women especially when it comes to sports like the NBA and NFL.

Cromedome
04-04-2013, 03:50 PM
Are they allowed to draft people to do the teams laundry? lol

But seriously...what a joke it would be. She would get dominated by almost every player, on and off the court.

She would get dominated off the court? lol

Blitzace137
04-04-2013, 04:23 PM
She would get dominated off the court? lol

he snuck that in there haha

D-Leethal
04-04-2013, 04:31 PM
It's like when that girl was allowed to try out for the NFL team for a kickers position and completely embarrassed herself. There's a reason why the WNBA exists. Same goes for the UFC lady that was born a man and got a sex change. Shouldn't be allowed to compete with women because she still has a males build. Guys are just superior physically compared to women especially when it comes to sports like the NBA and NFL.

Thats pretty much what I was getting at. Its one thing to be a pioneer, and I admire that, but some things are just a lost cause and not even worth attempting. Its just going to further the 'females can't hang with the boys' mentality instead of making progress to close that gap. It will be an embarrassment to the quality of women's hoops when everyone see's the MDE of women's basketball get dominated by d-league scrubs.

NYJ - NYY
04-04-2013, 04:53 PM
she could teach dirk how to shave :shrug:

Klivlend
04-04-2013, 04:55 PM
Your kidding right? I'm just trying to be realistic and not be a blind fool like you.

Nah dawg. You're the fool. Any sport that relies on athleticism whatsoever, woman can not compete with men. That's not really up for debate. If men and women were equal athletes there wouldn't be a need to segregate athletic competition by sex.

Blitzace137
04-04-2013, 06:26 PM
Nah dawg. You're the fool. Any sport that relies on athleticism whatsoever, woman can not compete with men. That's not really up for debate. If men and women were equal athletes there wouldn't be a need to segregate athletic competition by sex.

So your telling me no female in this world can play on a mlb team.. any position? relief pitching, Pitcher or a singles hitter? Even soccer I think it's possible. I'm just playing devils advocate. I agree with you on the part that they can't play sports that involve contact but not any sport.

John Walls Era
04-04-2013, 06:32 PM
So your telling me no female in this world can play on a mlb team.. any position? relief pitching, Pitcher or a singles hitter? Even soccer I think it's possible. I'm just playing devils advocate. I agree with you on the part that they can't play sports that involve contact but not any sport.

Are we assuming shes not on roids? Because theres no way a women could ever be a good enough relief pitcher to make the MLB.

Soccer... hell no. Soccer players are all fit as hell. I'm not sexist, but women don't have the physical talent or endurance to play in any league (not even the crappy american mls).

torocan
04-04-2013, 06:47 PM
Nah dawg. You're the fool. Any sport that relies on athleticism whatsoever, woman can not compete with men. That's not really up for debate. If men and women were equal athletes there wouldn't be a need to segregate athletic competition by sex.

I think you can be right in general but wrong in the specific.

I agree that women in general can not compete at the NBA level. I don't think it's statistically impossible to imagine a SINGLE woman being born and developed that could play a role on a NBA team, even if that's coming off the bench.

It doesn't take great athleticism to shoot a jumper. You can make up for athleticism to some degree with superior skill set and court vision.

Is that Brittney Griner? I doubt it. That's more a consequence of her position in my opinion. Front court players require exceptional strength.

However, given how many point guards and 2 guards don't play any meaningful defense already is it inconceivable that we could see a woman with a great jump shot, passing skills and solid speed down the floor? I don't think it's out of the realm of statistical possibility.

If Muggsy Bogues could play in the NBA for years as a starter, I don't think a woman as a bench player is completely absurd.

Just look at the idea of statistical anomaly. Lebron is a genetic freak. Talented in every way imaginable beyond his peers. Will there ever be a female version of Lebron? Not likely, but not impossible. And that athlete if they're playing a favorable position could be a legitimate bench player if not potentially a starter on a bottom tier team.

As for Griner herself, if she wants to try and Cuban is willing to let her, I don't see the big deal. Worst comes to worst she finds out for herself and it improves her game. Those who said "I told you so" will be able to feel better about themselves. Those who believe it's possible will just say Griner wasn't the one.

Im_in_Mia_bish
04-04-2013, 06:54 PM
LOl

Blitzace137
04-04-2013, 06:58 PM
Are we assuming shes not on roids? Because theres no way a women could ever be a good enough relief pitcher to make the MLB.

Soccer... hell no. Soccer players are all fit as hell. I'm not sexist, but women don't have the physical talent or endurance to play in any league (not even the crappy american mls).

Don't watch soccer to much so I can't go too much into it, you might be right on that but as for baseball which I do watch and have been for over a decade I can tell you I've come across players who have "funky" deliveries and the hardest they threw were around 80mph. IMO I think there is some female out there who could throw around the 80's if not better with an unusual delivery that could make it in the MLB I'm just playing devils advocate for arguments sake.

Klivlend
04-04-2013, 07:02 PM
This is crazy. Woman cannot compete with men physically. I mean, sure, an athletic female freak is almost like a decent athletic male. Buy why would a professional team want someone like that on their roster? I get the point you guys are making, but it's weak and bad.

More-Than-Most
04-04-2013, 07:02 PM
Griner----->Hawes.... Sixers will take her

torocan
04-04-2013, 07:13 PM
This is crazy. Woman cannot compete with men physically. I mean, sure, an athletic female freak is almost like a decent athletic male. Buy why would a professional team want someone like that on their roster? I get the point you guys are making, but it's weak and bad.

Well, if that individual woman is good enough to contribute to the team enough to help win games, then that's the real issue isn't it? Either that woman is good enough or not. If they are, then why do we care if they're a woman?

As for the practical side, a woman makes far more in the NBA than WNBA and would have tremendous opportunities personally as a pioneer. The team in question would also probably gain financially. In other words, win/win for everyone.

So, if they want to try let them try. If they're good enough, we'll know soon enough.

John Walls Era
04-04-2013, 07:16 PM
Well, if that individual woman is good enough to contribute to the team enough to help win games, then that's the real issue isn't it? Either that woman is good enough or not. If they are, then why do we care if they're a woman?

As for the practical side, a woman makes far more in the NBA than WNBA and would have tremendous opportunities personally as a pioneer. The team in question would also probably gain financially. In other words, win/win for everyone.

So, if they want to try let them try. If they're good enough, we'll know soon enough.

We know now. Im now ok with her getting to play in the summer league (still a mockery), but if the Mavs waste a pick on her (in the 2nd), this is a complete joke. Women just can't play in this league. They are physically not capable of doing so. Sure some female ballers could demolish people on internet forums like me, but not against pro atheletes.

D-Leethal
04-04-2013, 07:20 PM
Well, if that individual woman is good enough to contribute to the team enough to help win games, then that's the real issue isn't it? Either that woman is good enough or not. If they are, then why do we care if they're a woman?

As for the practical side, a woman makes far more in the NBA than WNBA and would have tremendous opportunities personally as a pioneer. The team in question would also probably gain financially. In other words, win/win for everyone.

So, if they want to try let them try. If they're good enough, we'll know soon enough.

I hear you but I still don't think it would work. I think there would really only be one position it could possibly work and that would be as a Combo guard who has a lights out jumper and is used as a ball mover but never really has to drive the lane and has a bigger guard out there with her who could take the more imposing backcourt matchup. I still don't think it could ever work, but if there was that freak of nature, I think it would have to be at that position/role. I agree that Griner as a F/C would never ever have a shot, that 90% of that is due to the nature of her position.

I sort of envision slow, old Jason Kidd impact the game with his brain, his open shots, and his facilitation of ball movement off kickouts.

But as I type this I am starting to think how easily teams can force you to switch and things of that nature, and I just really don't think it'd be possible even with the perfect cast around her. You could exploit it too easily. It would have to be a perfect storm of too many variables and even if the stars aligned with the perfect specimen, perfect teammates around her etc., I still think it would fail.

Klivlend
04-04-2013, 07:24 PM
I think it is easy to forget how fast and strong even the slow, old and weak professional athletes are.

Allphakenny1
04-04-2013, 07:24 PM
What are you talking about? When any NBA team cuts you your either a scrub or they consider you a scrub. There's 15 guys on the roster, and if the team thinks all 15 players on the roster would contribute more then they think your a scrub.

Not true at all, players are released all the time that teams feel have potential. Players are released and then resigned. Why would a team resign an already released player if they thought they were a scrub? It would not be worth their time. Sometimes there are other circumstances that require teams to make difficult decissions and release players they have some faith in.

torocan
04-04-2013, 07:30 PM
I hear you but I still don't think it would work. I think there would really only be one position it could possibly work and that would be as a Combo guard who has a lights out jumper and is used as a ball mover but never really has to drive the lane and has a bigger guard out there with her who could take the more imposing backcourt matchup. I still don't think it could ever work, but if there was that freak of nature, I think it would have to be at that position/role. I agree that Griner as a F/C would never ever have a shot, that 90% of that is due to the nature of her position.

I sort of envision slow, old Jason Kidd impact the game with his brain, his open shots, and his facilitation of ball movement off kickouts.

But as I type this I am starting to think how easily teams can force you to switch and things of that nature, and I just really don't think it'd be possible even with the perfect cast around her. You could exploit it too easily. It would have to be a perfect storm of too many variables and even if the stars aligned with the perfect specimen, perfect teammates around her etc., I still think it would fail.

I think it would depend on the system, team, her particular skill set, etc and whether she's playing as a starter or on the bench.

Our standards off the bench are very different than starting line ups. We also have to consider that while people like to toss out things like guarding Lebron and stuff, that's only something we really consider in terms of competitive play off and championship teams.

16/32 teams aren't play off teams. 16/32 teams have below average benches. Lots of SG's and PG's don't play a lick of decent defense.

And honestly, if you have enough talent you could probably still do okay. Does anyone believe that if you put a woman with a good perimeter 3 on the Heat bench as a 3rd string point guard that they still wouldn't be a championship contender?

It's different to argue whether that woman would be an impact player (not as likely) as whether she could do the job passably enough to be a net positive (outside shooting and good passing). And defensively it will also be about match ups. Any woman with good fundamentals could probably guard some of the players in the NBA. Heck, teams bury bad defenders all the time.

I think folks are comparing the wrong things when they talk about a woman against Lebron or Kobe. There are 448 other players in the NBA...

John Walls Era
04-04-2013, 07:34 PM
I think it would depend on the system, team, her particular skill set, etc and whether she's playing as a starter or on the bench.

Our standards off the bench are very different than starting line ups. We also have to consider that while people like to toss out things like guarding Lebron and stuff, that's only something we really consider in terms of competitive play off and championship teams.

16/32 teams aren't play off teams. 16/32 teams have below average benches. Lots of SG's and PG's don't play a lick of decent defense.

And honestly, if you have enough talent you could probably still do okay. Does anyone believe that if you put a woman with a good perimeter 3 on the Heat bench as a 3rd string point guard that they still wouldn't be a championship contender?

It's different to argue whether that woman would be an impact player (not as likely) as whether she could do the job passably enough to be a net positive (outside shooting and good passing). And defensively it will also be about match ups. Any woman with good fundamentals could probably guard some of the players in the NBA. Heck, teams bury bad defenders all the time.

I think folks are comparing the wrong things when they talk about a woman against Lebron or Kobe. There are 448 other players in the NBA...

A 10th-12th man doesn't change a team into contenders anyways. My thought process is that women can play the game of basketball pretty well, but that women definitely wouldn't be better than any 10th-12th man on any team in the NBA. Anyone that can shoot 3s would be a better defender than her and more athletic.

Klivlend
04-04-2013, 08:02 PM
A 10th-12th man doesn't change a team into contenders anyways. My thought process is that women can play the game of basketball pretty well, but that women definitely wouldn't be better than any 10th-12th man on any team in the NBA. Anyone that can shoot 3s would be a better defender than her and more athletic.

Exactly. Sure, a woman might be a lights out shooter. But you could find a dude who is a lights out shooter and is not as large of a liability in every other aspect of the game.

If there was a professional HORSE or Around-the-World league, women could dominate because the need for athleticism is minimal. She would not be at a crazy disadvantage in any way.

Alayla
04-04-2013, 09:47 PM
I hope she makes it just to stop the, A woman can never play in the nba bs.

Allphakenny1
04-04-2013, 11:20 PM
I hope she makes it just to stop the, A woman can never play in the nba bs.

Do you just believe it is sexism, or do you really believe women can compete with the best male basketball players in the world? I cannot speak for all, but I believe most are just speaking on her talent and it has nothing to so with her being a woman. She is just not bie enough, strong enough, or talented enough to compete in the NBA.

Hangtime
04-04-2013, 11:48 PM
Wouldn't she be playing PF or C? Can you guys really see her checking Blake Griffin? Kevin Love? Are yall for real?

Aust
04-05-2013, 12:13 AM
What is the point of this? I thought women weren't allowed in the NBA anyways... I mean, men aren't allowed in the WNBA, right?

akagiredsuns
04-05-2013, 12:31 AM
It's laughable how everyone seems scared about the notion of Griner playing in the NBA. Relax. At best, she will get a summer league shot and if she's not able to hang with the boys, then she's out. What petty fear some are having that a girl can come in a man's sport and do good. It's 2013, women can do a lot of things that men can do. Put the testosterone away because in the end no one here has the right to make the decision. Let Cuban be Cuban. Sad the way people overreact to things here. SMH

LOOTERX9
04-05-2013, 01:08 AM
publicity stunt...

LAcowBOMBER
04-05-2013, 01:30 AM
It's laughable how everyone seems scared about the notion of Griner playing in the NBA. Relax. At best, she will get a summer league shot and if she's not able to hang with the boys, then she's out. What petty fear some are having that a girl can come in a man's sport and do good. It's 2013, women can do a lot of things that men can do. Put the testosterone away because in the end no one here has the right to make the decision. Let Cuban be Cuban. Sad the way people overreact to things here. SMH

I don't think anyone is scared. She won't make a team though and she does not have the ability to even get close so even summer league is pretty laughable. If someone signs her to sell some preseason tickets then good for them, but the idea that she is a potential NBA talent is ridiculous

AntiG
04-06-2013, 11:46 PM
I just watched some more of her highlights, she has 2 post moves and that's kinda pushing it. She post up and turns left or right and shoots. She doesn't even fade away because she towers over her opponents. I still feel very confident in making the statement that Luke Walton would absolutely dominate her in a game

Don't forget Scal's contest taking on local star ballers and completely destroying them and shutting them out. All of those guys were some of the better local ballers and would absolutely destroy Griner...

hoggin88
04-07-2013, 02:25 PM
Watching Griner try to defend someone like Blake Griffin would be comedic gold.

Tony_Starks
04-07-2013, 03:31 PM
I hope she makes it. She wouldn't be going against starters it would be bench bigs who are mostly garbage anyway.

I always thought Candace Parker should've tried it, she's million times better than her brother AND husband!

LA_Raiders
04-07-2013, 06:24 PM
Lol, ok

John Walls Era
04-08-2013, 01:13 AM
Reading back, I'm starting to wonder if people understand its not sexist if you think a woman cant do something. Just because Griner looks like a man, doesn't mean she can play in a man's league. Also lets not forget how much abuse she would get from the more expressive players (see KG).

Did some imbecile really compare Jeremy Lin to Brittney Griner? Lin was the best high school basketball player as a senior in the entire state of California.

xRipCity
04-08-2013, 12:44 PM
People that think this is a joke should remember air bud. People thought it was a joke for a dog to play basketball. Was it a joke when air bud was scoring fifty points a game? I think not.

John Walls Era
04-08-2013, 03:51 PM
People that think this is a joke should remember air bud. People thought it was a joke for a dog to play basketball. Was it a joke when air bud was scoring fifty points a game? I think not.

:laugh:

corytwotimes
04-08-2013, 04:21 PM
people that think this is a joke should remember air bud. People thought it was a joke for a dog to play basketball. Was it a joke when air bud was scoring fifty points a game? I think not.


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NoahH
04-09-2013, 12:14 PM
I hope she makes it. She wouldn't be going against starters it would be bench bigs who are mostly garbage anyway.

I always thought Candace Parker should've tried it, she's million times better than her brother AND husband!

But, Candace Parker is a forward and is 6'4". What NBA forward could she guard at 6'4"... No one. The only WNBA player that could actually play with in the WNBA is Diana Taurasi MAYBE. Because she's a guard and her size wouldnt be a problem. Even then she would be playing 5-8 minutes maximum per game and getting Nolan Smith type stats.

Furthermore, yes Griner would be going up against GARBAGE bigs like Brenden Haywood, but he's still 7 foot 270 pounds and she's 6'8 200 pounds. Haywood would put a 20-20 game down on her.