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SteBO
04-02-2013, 08:15 PM
Sorry about no gamethread being up.....no LBJ, Wade, and Chalmers for Miami tonight.

justinnum1
04-02-2013, 08:26 PM
miller time!

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 08:29 PM
Go HEAT!!! I hate the Knicks and their fans. Fck u Felton

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 08:33 PM
Omg Melo on fire hes going for 50

Slug3
04-02-2013, 08:44 PM
NY cries so damn much.

SteBO
04-02-2013, 08:47 PM
Melo went HAM that quarter.....we need to get in his face more, but he's one of those players where sometimes it doesn't matter what you do, he'll score anyway. He's that good a scorer....

Defense has gotta pick it up.

Slug3
04-02-2013, 08:52 PM
Melo went HAM that quarter.....we need to get in his face more, but he's one of those players where sometimes it doesn't matter what you do, he'll score anyway. He's that good a scorer....

Defense has gotta pick it up.

Best thing to do is make him play D and try and tire him out some.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 08:52 PM
Wow ray

Slug3
04-02-2013, 08:54 PM
Lol anytime Jones tries to contest a shot in the pait he lays people out.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 08:56 PM
JJ and Lewis need to make these wide open 3's

Slug3
04-02-2013, 08:57 PM
I really hope these games help our role players and Bosh get dialed in for the playoffs.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 09:03 PM
We're not winning with Melo shooting 90% for the game. We need to stop him somehow.

SteBO
04-02-2013, 09:04 PM
Jeez, that was great defense by Battier...Melo hit it anyway. Just gotta tap him on the *** and get back on O.

Slug3
04-02-2013, 09:05 PM
Damn body up Melo already.

Slug3
04-02-2013, 09:07 PM
How is that a foul on Lewis?

SteBO
04-02-2013, 09:07 PM
^It wasn't.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 09:10 PM
Its officially Miller-Time!!

Slug3
04-02-2013, 09:14 PM
I we are going to play haslem on Melo we might as well just only play 4.

NBA_Starter
04-02-2013, 09:15 PM
Norris Cole from downtown

Slug3
04-02-2013, 09:15 PM
Cole the last few weeks has been a great backup.

Slug3
04-02-2013, 09:46 PM
Seriously just stay on Melo.

Slug3
04-02-2013, 09:47 PM
No JR Smith, hitting someone's arm is not a clean block.

SteBO
04-02-2013, 09:49 PM
Offense stimied now....too much dribbling going on. And Melo's still hot...ugh.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 09:50 PM
Yea we're not winning this game with Melo dropping 70 on us.

justinnum1
04-02-2013, 09:52 PM
Ud on melo is a great game plan.

Slug3
04-02-2013, 09:55 PM
They have Felton on Lewis and Melo on Bosh and both them cant take their man on the blocks.

Slug3
04-02-2013, 09:56 PM
If UD is not even going to be on Melo then just pull him off him already.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 09:56 PM
Cole back to being a TO machine

Khri
04-02-2013, 09:56 PM
Melo has been open all night, what are we doing?

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 09:57 PM
Refs suck

Slug3
04-02-2013, 09:59 PM
Melo has been open all night, what are we doing?

We have UD guarding him, lol.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:00 PM
I hope Melo gets tired by the 4th

Khri
04-02-2013, 10:04 PM
We're making Carmelo look like Michael Jordan out there.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:07 PM
Ouch

SteBO
04-02-2013, 10:10 PM
Missed offensive foul call leads to a Novak three....doesn't matter though. As long as its close, we have a chance to pull this out.

As far as Melo, there's nothing much we can do about him. No sense in doubling when we're only down by two....we don't need somebody else going off on us. Melo's an offensive monster....all we can really do is hope he cools off.

Khri
04-02-2013, 10:14 PM
Refs lol..

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:15 PM
Ball dont lie

CHANGO
04-02-2013, 10:16 PM
Winning or losing, I'm very excited with the way this team has been playing in the last two games. I love the defense(when in reality we have a lot of weak defenders, Miller, Jones, Allen, Lewis) and love the ball movement, getting easy points in the paint and wide open threes!

Cole is a serious defender, that's my MOFO!

And Miller still my man crush! I just love that man, ok, ok, he's behind Battier in my man love list. :)

Norris winning the battle of the Flat Tops! That's some sexy ****.

No homo!

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:17 PM
Slipping away. Bosh where the **** are you?

Khri
04-02-2013, 10:19 PM
We are missing everything now.. bad time lol.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:24 PM
Damn you Felton u fat beaver

Khri
04-02-2013, 10:27 PM
Cole is killing us.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:28 PM
Awwww we needed Battier 3 danggg

gotoHcarolina52
04-02-2013, 10:29 PM
Hell of a pass by Bosh. Too bad Battier missed the open three.

gotoHcarolina52
04-02-2013, 10:30 PM
‏@tomhaberstroh

Shane Battier just shouted the F word. This is notable for him.
:laugh2: He wanted that 3 to drop. Badly.

G-Menfan4lyfe
04-02-2013, 10:31 PM
Cole is killing us.

Big time.... he is such a chucker and is reckless going to the basket. I hate watching him sometimes.

Khri
04-02-2013, 10:32 PM
Go to the basket Bosh..

Khri
04-02-2013, 10:33 PM
Thank you Battier..

justinnum1
04-02-2013, 10:34 PM
game ball to norris cole. Scrub belongs in the d league.

justinnum1
04-02-2013, 10:36 PM
knicks dont win more than 1 game in a 7 game series. much rather face them than the pacers.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:36 PM
Game over. Spike Lee wtf u getting all excited about? Ur team is barely beating a HEAT team without The best player in the world and Wade. Not to mention it takes Melo to have a career game to do so. Fck u ***** *** *****

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:38 PM
Cole grfo

gotoHcarolina52
04-02-2013, 10:38 PM
Holy **** Norris Cole blows

Khri
04-02-2013, 10:39 PM
We have been awful these last three minutes.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:39 PM
Omg cole is such a TO machine its not funny. He is such a poor ball handler

Khri
04-02-2013, 10:40 PM
Damn Bosh..

SteBO
04-02-2013, 10:40 PM
Ah well...Knicks needed 47 and counting points from Melo to fend off a really short handed heat team. If anything I'm pretty impressed with our guys' heart and competitiveness. Non-issue tonight....

gotoHcarolina52
04-02-2013, 10:41 PM
Bosh goes soft to the basket. Good job; good effort.

Khri
04-02-2013, 10:42 PM
We just went into meltdown mode in the last 4 minutes.

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:43 PM
Good loss. Guys played very well for 3 quarters and gave good effort. This loss will only get Wade and LeBron fired up and ready to kick their ***. I say we sweep them if we meet in the playoffs.

justinnum1
04-02-2013, 10:44 PM
Holy **** Norris Cole blows

he is awful

lavilevi23
04-02-2013, 10:46 PM
Omg Melo on fire hes going for 50

Called it.

G-Menfan4lyfe
04-02-2013, 10:53 PM
Norris Cole: 14 pts, 2 REB, 2 STL, 3 AST, 7 TO

Spectacular numbers

justinnum1
04-02-2013, 11:10 PM
Norris Cole: 14 pts, 2 REB, 2 STL, 3 AST, 7 TO

Spectacular numbers

Another spectacular number is 4,699

That's the last time the knicks won a playoff series :laugh:

FreakaNashur
04-02-2013, 11:19 PM
**** a melo

HeaTxRipZz
04-02-2013, 11:25 PM
Just wanted to say Good game to you guys it's great to see these teams going back and fourth again hoping that we make it to the ECF to play y'all and both teams would be at full strength.

Much respect to that historic streak as well

DQL
04-02-2013, 11:29 PM
Cole went into garbage mode after a promising first half. Kid needs to let the game come to him and not force it. Just move the ball around.

Miller still has something left in the tank. Too bad he still most likely will get amnestied next season.

Spo needs to stop being loyal to his rotation. There's no way in hell should Haslem defend a player like Carmelo. Carmelo would still have dropped a bunch on Battier but he wouldn't have got into such rhythm.

Lewis played 27 min and went scoreless? I didn't even realize he was on the floor and for that long.

Overall an ok game. Of course it would have been better with the ball in Lebron's or Wade's instead of Cole's hand.

Cano4prez
04-03-2013, 06:22 AM
Another spectacular number is 4,699

That's the last time the knicks won a playoff series :laugh:

Pretty sure he's a heat fan lol

gate7 greek nyk
04-03-2013, 07:49 AM
I see no poster here remembers the late 90's...

Well..Beating Miami makes perfect sense to me..never surprises me..any time we beat Miami feels like..such a..normal thing...no irony here..
Actually i want to thank your franchise cause it's the reason i became a knick fan about 15 years ago..

Speaking of the last time the knicks won a playoff series..i really don't know what's harder..that spectacular number you mentioned?Or beating your *** in three consecutive playoff series,especially the way it happened...?
Yes a full decade of loosing it's hard but we were a bad team so we never really had high expectations.....and i know one thing..We never claimed to be a championship team and loosing in three playoff series in a row..in MSG..from the same team....a 7 and 8 seed team...!!!Nothing more humiliating than that...
For me the Heat will always be a franchise that i feel sorry for,because of the way you were treated back then..and no matter what happens not just from now on..(allways it was like that) the way i feel for your franchise will never change..i feel kind of sympathy actually..I'm Sorry if that sounds ironic but that's how it is..actually that's how many knicks fans 25 + feel..

So YOU all better stop the empathy and the hate.. but again......we are responsible for that hate.....aren't we? ;)

SteBO
04-03-2013, 08:08 AM
That's an interesting perspective you have there. Delusional, but still very introspective. Those Knicks-Heat series', regardless of the outcome, were fun basketball to watch and I'm sure you enjoyed it a ton. But a lot has changed since then, and we're now in 2013. The Heat's ultimate goal right now is winning the title.....and the Knicks are now a team that I view as biggest threat to them in the east. But they have to win a playoff series first. Plain and simple.

lavilevi23
04-03-2013, 08:49 AM
LOL @ that guy. If any franchise needs to be felt sorry for its the Knicks. What an irony wow. Your team hasn't won **** in 30 years.

gate7 greek nyk
04-03-2013, 08:55 AM
That's an interesting perspective you have there. Delusional, but still very introspective. Those Knicks-Heat series', regardless of the outcome, were fun basketball to watch and I'm sure you enjoyed it a ton. But a lot has changed since then, and we're now in 2013. The Heat's ultimate goal right now is winning the title.....and the Knicks are now a team that I view as biggest threat to them in the east. But they have to win a playoff series first. Plain and simple.

I want to say first of all that i'm not a hater.I was born in New York but i'm Greek,so i have no reason to hate something,that's on the other side of atlantic.. :D The knicks-heat rivalry was one of the reason i became an NBA fan..and of course it was a very entertaining rivalry..but it's that arrogance man......

lavilevi23
04-03-2013, 09:34 AM
Knicks aint getting past the 2nd round

justinnum1
04-03-2013, 09:34 AM
I see no poster here remembers the late 90's...

Well..Beating Miami makes perfect sense to me..never surprises me..any time we beat Miami feels like..such a..normal thing...no irony here..
Actually i want to thank your franchise cause it's the reason i became a knick fan about 15 years ago..

Speaking of the last time the knicks won a playoff series..i really don't know what's harder..that spectacular number you mentioned?Or beating your *** in three consecutive playoff series,especially the way it happened...?
Yes a full decade of loosing it's hard but we were a bad team so we never really had high expectations.....and i know one thing..We never claimed to be a championship team and loosing in three playoff series in a row..in MSG..from the same team....a 7 and 8 seed team...!!!Nothing more humiliating than that...
For me the Heat will always be a franchise that i feel sorry for,because of the way you were treated back then..and no matter what happens not just from now on..(allways it was like that) the way i feel for your franchise will never change..i feel kind of sympathy actually..I'm Sorry if that sounds ironic but that's how it is..actually that's how many knicks fans 25 + feel..

So YOU all better stop the empathy and the hate.. but again......we are responsible for that hate.....aren't we? ;)

greeks have an interesting way of dealing with failure.

gate7 greek nyk
04-03-2013, 10:04 AM
greeks have an interesting way of dealing with failure.

Interesting comment for a country that while we were teaching civilization,culture and democracy,you were still living on the trees..

Xait
04-03-2013, 10:44 AM
Interesting comment for a country that while we were teaching civilization,culture and democracy,you were still living on the trees..

As a portuguese fan i really think theres no point in discussion european problems with americans. The majority of them really doesn't care about anything that happens outside their country. They just read a bunch of headlines in the newspapers and it's enough.

As a Knicks Fan i'm always glad with the hate and disrespect coming from a Heat fan. Remembers me why i hate the Bulls.
I donīt hate the Heat, they have 3 top NBA players in their prime so it's human nature to dislike the "golias".

By the way... The same fans that saw their full team beaten by the Carmelo-less Knicks team, by 20, and said that doesn't mean nothing, now are saying that this game means a lot because Carmleo scored 50, their stars didn't play and the Knicks only won by 12....... Thats really a great logic.

gate7 greek nyk
04-03-2013, 10:59 AM
As a portuguese fan i really think theres no point in discussion european problems with americans. The majority of them really doesn't care about anything that happens outside their country. They just read a bunch of headlines in the newspapers and it's enough.

As a Knicks Fan i'm always glad with the hate and disrespect coming from a Heat fan. Remembers me why i hate the Bulls.
I donīt hate the Heat, they have 3 top NBA players in their prime so it's human nature to dislike the "golias".

By the way... The same fans that saw their full team beaten by the Carmelo-less Knicks team, by 20, and said that doesn't mean nothing, now are saying that this game means a lot because Carmleo scored 50, their stars didn't play and the Knicks only won by 12....... Thats really a great logic.

:clap: I agree.. 100%

lavilevi23
04-03-2013, 11:35 AM
HEAT won the only meaningful game when everybody were healthy. I dont give a **** about the other 3. You know deep in ur hearts your team aint winning more than a game in a series against us.

SteBO
04-03-2013, 11:46 AM
Xait then I guess you truly don't understand the logic....because when you're the defending champs there's no reason to stress over a regular season game #74 in April. Believe it or not, certain Knick players have been running their mouths about Miami throughout the year in spots. They have more to prove and it tells me these games mean a hell of a lot more to them, then they do to Miami. They put themselves in that spot, and I don't mind it at all. They're a good team, and they should be confident.

But there's no reason for the Heat or their fans to be afraid or to delude themselves into thinking these games against NY have much relevance if any at all. They know what really matters.....so now let's see how the Knicks do.

Xait
04-03-2013, 12:49 PM
Xait then I guess you truly don't understand the logic....because when you're the defending champs there's no reason to stress over a regular season game #74 in April. Believe it or not, certain Knick players have been running their mouths about Miami throughout the year in spots. They have more to prove and it tells me these games mean a hell of a lot more to them, then they do to Miami. They put themselves in that spot, and I don't mind it at all. They're a good team, and they should be confident.

But there's no reason for the Heat or their fans to be afraid or to delude themselves into thinking these games against NY have much relevance if any at all. They know what really matters.....so now let's see how the Knicks do.

I'm not saying you should stress... at all.
This was an important game for us. Nothing to do about any kind of message, just because of the playoff seed.

To Miami this means exactly the same than the other 3, it's all i'm saying. I just think it's a little ridiculous someone to say that the first game means nothing and this one means something.

The Knicks have a better team than the other years, have a better coach, have a PG, and a better seed. For me it's just natural that they have the ambition to get to the finals. The bigger obstcale to get there are the Heat so it's also natural that they "run their mouth" about Miami.

Like i said... Miami are the champs and have 3 top 10 players... They should fear no one but also should know that they have a target on their backs.

G-Menfan4lyfe
04-03-2013, 01:02 PM
Pretty sure he's a heat fan lol

You are correct sir. I haven't posted in the forum in some time but I still stop by to read it. It also seems like the forum has lost a lot of posters or maybe since it's a given this team will make the postseason people become bored posting during the regular season.

I remember in the summer of 2010 though. That summer everyone was posting.

Xait
04-03-2013, 01:13 PM
HEAT won the only meaningful game when everybody were healthy. I dont give a **** about the other 3. You know deep in ur hearts your team aint winning more than a game in a series against us.

The first one everybody was healthy too... But it was a give a way because of Sandy right? Anyway...

I really don't think to much about what can we do against the Heat in a series. There are to many variables to get to a conclusion right now:
- I Know what the Heat can do in a playoff series because you have the same core in the past 3 years.
- I really don't know what Knicks Team we will see in the playoffs.
- Will the major players stay healthy?
- OKC won just 1 game against Miami, the Pacers got 2.
- What about teams like Chicago (with Rose?), Pacers or even Celtics... Even if they can't beat the Heat they can drain a lot of energy (i. e. hard fouls) in any team.

So, right now... Miami are the favourite not just about the Knicks but about any team in the NBA but "deep in my heart" i believe that we have weapons not just to win more than a game but to win the series. It wouldnīt be the first "fairytale" story in this league or even in this rivalry.

SteBO
04-03-2013, 01:50 PM
I'm not saying you should stress... at all.
This was an important game for us. Nothing to do about any kind of message, just because of the playoff seed.

To Miami this means exactly the same than the other 3, it's all i'm saying. I just think it's a little ridiculous someone to say that the first game means nothing and this one means something.

The Knicks have a better team than the other years, have a better coach, have a PG, and a better seed. For me it's just natural that they have the ambition to get to the finals. The bigger obstcale to get there are the Heat so it's also natural that they "run their mouth" about Miami.

Like i said... Miami are the champs and have 3 top 10 players... They should fear no one but also should know that they have a target on their backs.
Yeah I'm just personally tired of opposing fans trying to sell me on "uh oh NY took 3 of 4 from y'all, BE SCARED". I thought that's what you were originally implying, but I was wrong clearly. NY and MIA are the two best teams in the east for a reason.....hopefully they meet up in the ECF. Thanks for reasoning with me. You're vastly different from the clowns I've had to deal with face to face today. :laugh2:

CHANGO
04-03-2013, 01:52 PM
I don't care if a Carmelo-less Knicks beat a Full HEAT team. I don't care if we won when both teams were healthy, I don't care if the Knicks needed Melo with 50 points to win against a Lebronless, Wadeless, Marioless Heat. But you know I do care about last season when we lost 3 games against the Celtics in the RS, winning just 1, same in 2010-11 season our record against the Bulls was 3-0 against the Celtics 3-1 again... And guess what? What team get to the Finals?

That's all that matters right now. And I think Knicks should be more worried about taking that 2nd spot in the East and avoid playing a 1st round against the Bulls, that's the think right now.

CHANGO
04-03-2013, 01:54 PM
Yeah I'm just personally tired of opposing fans trying to sell me on "uh oh NY took 3 of 4 from y'all, BE SCARED". I thought that's what you were originally implying, but I was wrong clearly. NY and MIA are the two best teams in the east for a reason.....hopefully they meet up in the ECF. Thanks for reasoning with me. You're vastly different from the clowns I've had to deal with face to face today. :laugh2:

We have opposite views... I don't see the Knicks as the biggest obstacle for us in the East. I fear more the Bulls, the Pacers and of course the savy Celtics. I thinks the Knicks are in the middle of Bulls and Celtics.

Pacers
Bulls
Knicks
Celtics

That's how I see it.

SteBO
04-03-2013, 02:18 PM
Knicks are at least capable of defending...and offensively they can hang with us if they move the ball well. That was evident all year in the matchups against them....

Bulls and Pacers in particular have great defenses, but are terrible offensively sometimes. I see more balance with the Knicks personally....

Xait
04-03-2013, 02:50 PM
Yeah I'm just personally tired of opposing fans trying to sell me on "uh oh NY took 3 of 4 from y'all, BE SCARED". I thought that's what you were originally implying, but I was wrong clearly. NY and MIA are the two best teams in the east for a reason.....hopefully they meet up in the ECF. Thanks for reasoning with me. You're vastly different from the clowns I've had to deal with face to face today. :laugh2:

In a country that only cares about football (or soccer like you call it) it's always a pleasure to talk to someone about bball.

Chango

I agree that we should be more worried about taking the 2nd spot. Not only because of the Bulls but mainly to avoid playing the Pacers and the Heat in consecutive rounds with no homecourt. I like our chances but i doubt we have the health to play both series at a high level.

As far as the biggest obstacle i really don't know... I respect your point of view but i don't agree with that. Sometimes it's all about matchups.
I can see a lineup of Felton, JR Smith, Melo, K-mart and Chandler givin' you some problems.

I see more talent and experience in the Knicks team than the others 3 that you mentioned. Especially if, far in the playoffs, we can get 7-10 good minutes from Amare and Camby.

D-Leethal
04-03-2013, 03:13 PM
HEAT won the only meaningful game when everybody were healthy. I dont give a **** about the other 3. You know deep in ur hearts your team aint winning more than a game in a series against us.

lol, how do you define 'meaningful'? WTF was the difference between that game and the other 3?

Oh yea, Miami won :rolleyes:

D-Leethal
04-03-2013, 03:15 PM
Xait then I guess you truly don't understand the logic....because when you're the defending champs there's no reason to stress over a regular season game #74 in April. Believe it or not, certain Knick players have been running their mouths about Miami throughout the year in spots. They have more to prove and it tells me these games mean a hell of a lot more to them, then they do to Miami. They put themselves in that spot, and I don't mind it at all. They're a good team, and they should be confident.

But there's no reason for the Heat or their fans to be afraid or to delude themselves into thinking these games against NY have much relevance if any at all. They know what really matters.....so now let's see how the Knicks do.

This game meant nothing to you guys, any Knick fan that tells you different is fooling themselves. There was no reason for you top guns to play last night.

But its funny the excuses coming out of your camp, especially given what was being said the night before after the same squad took down SA.

SteBO
04-03-2013, 03:25 PM
This game meant nothing to you guys, any Knick fan that tells you different is fooling themselves. There was no reason for you top guns to play last night.

But its funny the excuses coming out of your camp, especially given what was being said the night before after the same squad took down SA.
You beat the Spurs with the same lineup and you're going to get what you've read. Last night, reality just set in. I was shocked Miami was up 8 at halftime, and it was going to take a lot of made three's and good fortune in the second half to win that game, especially with how great Carmelo was all night. My advice, just take to heart what the rational fans say. I thought we could win, but a lot would have to break right for us and 'Melo just wouldn't let it happen. Knicks-Heat ECF would be the greatest thing to happen for South Florida sports....

lavilevi23
04-03-2013, 03:30 PM
lol, how do you define 'meaningful'? WTF was the difference between that game and the other 3?

Oh yea, Miami won :rolleyes:

Wrong. Everyone was healthy and it was in the middle of the season.

D-Leethal
04-03-2013, 03:31 PM
You beat the Spurs with the same lineup and you're going to get what you've read. Last night, reality just set in. I was shocked Miami was up 8 at halftime, and it was going to take a lot of made three's and good fortune in the second half to win that game, especially with how great Carmelo was all night. My advice, just take to heart what the rational fans say. I thought we could win, but a lot would have to break right for us and 'Melo just wouldn't let it happen. Knicks-Heat ECF would be the greatest thing to happen for South Florida sports....

Yep. Fireworks for sure, especially if Knicks can keep playing at a high level without tailing off a bit. I was very impressed the way you guys executed last night man, I was so frustrated at half time. I give Woody credit for the way he switched up our D at the half. You guys were carving us up on our switches and doubles so we had to take a more 'straight up' approach in the 2nd half. Either way, your role players executed like champs and played with a ton of confidence, impressive and well coached. Reminded me of the way the Bulls and Spurs seem to not miss a beat regardless of how many people are out injured.

Its easy to maintain that for a game or 2 though, eventually the dust settles, adrenaline wears, and the larger talent prevails. You saw a microcosm of that last night when Melo's rampage became too much to match without your stars.

lavilevi23
04-03-2013, 03:33 PM
I don't care if a Carmelo-less Knicks beat a Full HEAT team. I don't care if we won when both teams were healthy, I don't care if the Knicks needed Melo with 50 points to win against a Lebronless, Wadeless, Marioless Heat. But you know I do care about last season when we lost 3 games against the Celtics in the RS, winning just 1, same in 2010-11 season our record against the Bulls was 3-0 against the Celtics 3-1 again... And guess what? What team get to the Finals?

That's all that matters right now. And I think Knicks should be more worried about taking that 2nd spot in the East and avoid playing a 1st round against the Bulls, that's the think right now.

Agree 100%

D-Leethal
04-03-2013, 03:36 PM
Wrong. Everyone was healthy and it was in the middle of the season.

lol, again, how does that make it the only meaningful game? I wonder what you'd say if the W-L's were reversed. The mid season doldrums of an 82 game season is hardly more meaningful than the out-the-gate start and the stretch run finish. Either way, your argument is plain stupid. Your definition of meaningful games is about as subjective as it gets and not even worth discussing.

lavilevi23
04-03-2013, 03:37 PM
Not to mention Melo only has a game like this once every season or two. He aint gonna score 50 every night and most importantly shoot at this high %. Melo won't even shoot over 45~50% for a PO series.

D-Leethal
04-03-2013, 03:40 PM
Not to mention Melo only has a game like this once every season or two. He aint gonna score 50 every night and most importantly shoot at this high %. Melo won't even shoot over 45~50% for a PO series.

Ok so from last night your able to draw that we will need Melo to drop 50 in order to win, yet we beat you once without him at all, and blew you out by 20 when he didn't even crack 30. You pick and choose drawing details from games that fit the points you want to make, and than just write all the counter points off from other games as 'doesnt matter'.

Your logic fails.

We won't need Melo to drop 50 to win every night. Each game takes on a different identity and the roles will change, different guys will struggle, different guys will excel.

lavilevi23
04-03-2013, 03:48 PM
lol, again, how does that make it the only meaningful game? I wonder what you'd say if the W-L's were reversed. The mid season doldrums of an 82 game season is hardly more meaningful than the out-the-gate start and the stretch run finish. Either way, your argument is plain stupid. Your definition of meaningful games is about as subjective as it gets and not even worth discussing.

Wrong again.
A win at the very start of the season when a team just started to get in shape and adjusting to their new roles and get in groove - won't equal to a win at the middle of the season when everyone is healthy and in season shape. not to mention Sandy and the HEAT's championship hangover at the start of the season.

A win at the end of the season when the HEAT have a 12 game lead and clinched the 1st seed like a month ago while resting their two superstars and another key starter, and needing your best player to have a career shooting performance just to barely get the win does not equal to the HEAT's win @ MSG.

IMO each team has 1 meaningful win that sent a message and the Knicks have another 2 that anyone who knows the HEAT well and their history doesn't even care. Check previous season losses vs the Celtics & the Bulls to see how that ended up.

CHANGO
04-03-2013, 05:28 PM
In a country that only cares about football (or soccer like you call it) it's always a pleasure to talk to someone about bball.

Chango

I agree that we should be more worried about taking the 2nd spot. Not only because of the Bulls but mainly to avoid playing the Pacers and the Heat in consecutive rounds with no homecourt. I like our chances but i doubt we have the health to play both series at a high level.

As far as the biggest obstacle i really don't know... I respect your point of view but i don't agree with that. Sometimes it's all about matchups.
I can see a lineup of Felton, JR Smith, Melo, K-mart and Chandler givin' you some problems.

I see more talent and experience in the Knicks team than the others 3 that you mentioned. Especially if, far in the playoffs, we can get 7-10 good minutes from Amare and Camby.

Fair enough! :hi5:

Yeah, I think the team who plays in the 1st round against the Bulls, will have a tough test. Especially if that team is NYK the Knicks(as the Heat) have problems in the rebounds department and the Bulls and Pacers can rebound the ball and defend pretty well. That's why I see them as the biggest obstacles in the East, Pacers are by far the best rebounding team in the league, and the Bulls are Top 10.

Miami, Boston and New York are in the bottom 5 so that's why I see the Celtics as the more easy of the four teams. I don't think Brooklyn, Atlanta or Milwaukee would be a problem for the HEAT.

BTW, seeing the HEAT rebounding stats I just noted that we are the worst rebounding team but also opponents are TOP 5 in less rebounds per game against us that's thanks to our FG%.