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ChiSox219
03-20-2013, 05:09 PM
That young bearded fellow named James Harden leads the NBA with 58 And 1's. Here is a brief list of youtube clips for your viewing pleasure, feel free to add any of the other 53. Warning: Kobephiles might want to skip the first clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KeghTfeZXg
http://youtu.be/PLod-vlPCbw?t=10s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbd54Vlh2CM
http://youtu.be/wwPvgZ-F5Gg?t=3m
http://youtu.be/Jpp0UZIiH_0?t=2m23s

ROY 2 MVP Braun
03-20-2013, 05:19 PM
first one was weak! so its funny u say kobephiles lmao

LAKobeBryant
03-20-2013, 05:24 PM
Ridiculous how he leads the league in ft attempts.

lakers4sho
03-20-2013, 07:00 PM
when you have your shoulders and traveling at your disposal you can get that many too

ILLUSIONIST^248
03-20-2013, 07:06 PM
when you have your shoulders and traveling at your disposal you can get that many too

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ManRam
03-20-2013, 07:06 PM
Ridiculous how he leads the league in ft attempts.

There's no more deserving player to be leading the league though. He's tremendous at creating contact and forcing the issue. The best in the game at doing so.

Who else should be leading the league? Maybe KD and that's all I can think of. Dwight maybe too.

ILLUSIONIST^248
03-20-2013, 07:24 PM
There's no more deserving player to be leading the league though. He's tremendous at creating contact and forcing the issue. The best in the game at doing so.

Who else should be leading the league? Maybe KD and that's all I can think of. Dwight maybe too.

He also travels/flops alot.

mdm692
03-20-2013, 07:32 PM
He also travels/flops alot.

So does Kobe, Cp3, LBJ, Wade, KD and Blake. Your point?

Baller1
03-20-2013, 07:32 PM
Figures the Illusionist is in a thread about SG's being better than Kobe.

ManRam
03-20-2013, 07:34 PM
He also travels/flops alot.

What star doesn't?

ILLUSIONIST^248
03-20-2013, 07:41 PM
So does Kobe, Cp3, LBJ, Wade, KD and Blake. Your point?
Kobe, Lebron, Durant Flop like Harden? Funny guy.

Figures the Illusionist is in a thread about SG's being better than Kobe.

Who's this magical sg that's better than Kobe?

mdm692
03-20-2013, 07:43 PM
Kobe, Lebron, Durant Flop like Harden? Funny guy.


Who's this magical sg that's better than Kobe?
Lebron travels more, KD flops more and Kobe does quite a bit of both.

ILLUSIONIST^248
03-20-2013, 07:43 PM
What star doesn't?

The only one who flops as much as Harden is Cp3.

Hawkeye15
03-20-2013, 07:52 PM
look, I hate the fact that they allow a player penetrating to just flail there arms up and create the contact and they get 2 free throws, but Harden is a snake man, you can not stop him from using that euro-step which gets you out of position, and then he just pulls his trick. He is not even trying to shoot many times, its not a basketball move, so I do think he gets too many calls, but that is how they officiate it. Others should learn to do what he does.

YouCan'tBeatLA
03-20-2013, 08:12 PM
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DODGERS&LAKERS
03-20-2013, 08:16 PM
That young bearded fellow named James Harden leads the NBA with 58 And 1's. Here is a brief list of youtube clips for your viewing pleasure, feel free to add any of the other 53. Warning: Kobephiles might want to skip the first clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KeghTfeZXg
http://youtu.be/PLod-vlPCbw?t=10s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbd54Vlh2CM
http://youtu.be/wwPvgZ-F5Gg?t=3m
http://youtu.be/Jpp0UZIiH_0?t=2m23s

I was expecting to see something good with your Kobe comment. All we got was a phantom call that Harden and Pierce usually get. They get those calls by flailing their head back acting as if someone shot them between the eyes. Its effective. Kobe should go to that. His pet flop move is just to yell "Hey!" and that never gets him anything. He should learn from the best

ThaDubs
03-20-2013, 08:39 PM
He also travels/flops alot.

So what? So does Kobe. Also a lot of the time when Harden is in the lane he takes long strides that can look like a travel (especially to someone who is mad because Harden is better than his favorite player). Harden is great at drawing contact and that's why he leads the league in FT attempts. There is nothing wrong with keeping your body low and drawing contact.

YouCan'tBeatLA
03-20-2013, 08:42 PM
So what? So does Kobe. Also a lot of the time when Harden is in the lane he takes long strides that can look like a travel (especially to someone who is mad because Harden is better than his favorite player). Harden is great at drawing contact and that's why he leads the league in FT attempts. There is nothing wrong with keeping your body low and drawing contact.

Kobe flops? Since when?

Kobe actually gets caught 90% of the time when he travels, Harden gets away with it too much.

LakersIn5
03-20-2013, 09:00 PM
So does Kobe, Cp3, LBJ, Wade, KD and Blake. Your point?

but harden gets the most free throws yet they travel and flop too.

Sactown
03-20-2013, 09:15 PM
Kobe flops? Since when?

Kobe actually gets caught 90% of the time when he travels, Harden gets away with it too much.

Actually he doesn't, you just don't see the 90% of the time he does do something wrong, because you don't want to see it

mdm692
03-20-2013, 09:20 PM
but harden gets the most free throws yet they travel and flop too.

KD is 2nd most in FTA the only difference is that Harden actually finishes the play while other stars just throw their arms up in the air. LBJ travels the most out of any star and Kobe is up there in FTA as well but like I mentioned he does a bit of everything and he doesn't over due it.

ThaDubs
03-20-2013, 09:25 PM
but harden gets the most free throws yet they travel and flop too.

That's because he strives to get contact in the lane and get to the line. And you've probably never watched a Rockets game in your whole life. Harden travels less than people say (although he does travel quite a bit) and just takes really long strides. He doesn't flop a lot, he just lowers his body and goes up for contact. If you want to see a flop, look at what Gino just did to Harrison Barnes. Lol.

Verbal Christ
03-20-2013, 11:00 PM
LOL @ all the Kobe dicksuckers.

LAKobeBryant
03-20-2013, 11:13 PM
There's no more deserving player to be leading the league though. He's tremendous at creating contact and forcing the issue. The best in the game at doing so.

Who else should be leading the league? Maybe KD and that's all I can think of. Dwight maybe too.

It should defiantly be a big man, they get hit the most inside but when a guy like wade, harden etc. travel their way to the paint and run into a big man with his hand up its a foul.

WHODAT8o8
03-21-2013, 12:06 AM
I was expecting to see something good with your Kobe comment. All we got was a phantom call that Harden and Pierce usually get. They get those calls by flailing their head back acting as if someone shot them between the eyes. Its effective. Kobe should go to that. His pet flop move is just to yell "Hey!" and that never gets him anything. He should learn from the best

Maybe if kobe didnt use his other arm to push off everytime to get to the basket he might get more fouls. Agree with verbal christ, these kobe dicksuckers need to get off of kobes dickk

astrosmaniac
03-21-2013, 12:09 AM
look, I hate the fact that they allow a player penetrating to just flail there arms up and create the contact and they get 2 free throws, but Harden is a snake man, you can not stop him from using that euro-step which gets you out of position, and then he just pulls his trick. He is not even trying to shoot many times, its not a basketball move, so I do think he gets too many calls, but that is how they officiate it. Others should learn to do what he does.

but doesn't the fact that he leads the league in "and 1's" show that he IS making a basketball move?

ILLUSIONIST^248
03-21-2013, 12:27 AM
So what? So does Kobe. Also a lot of the time when Harden is in the lane he takes long strides that can look like a travel (especially to someone who is mad because Harden is better than his favorite player). Harden is great at drawing contact and that's why he leads the league in FT attempts. There is nothing wrong with keeping your body low and drawing contact.

I'm guessing you have never read the nba rule book.

VendettaRed07
03-21-2013, 12:30 AM
The only one who flops as much as Harden is Cp3.

Nobody even in La Liga flops as much as CP3

Dnovakovic099
03-21-2013, 12:40 AM
I'm guessing you have never read the nba rule book.

I'm guessing you never take Kobe's **** out of your mouth? Why does every ****ing thread become about Kobe because of this fool that Amore ****** and Jimmer?