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Manimal
03-16-2013, 10:14 AM
Looking at the last couple of drafts, it just seems like most guys coming in are just not ready for schedule or the level of competition.

While guy who do three or more years are fitting in like a glove and look like they are physically ready.

In the last two years drafts, guys who have been success stories are

Kawhi Leonard
Kenneth Faried
Chandler Parsons
Iman Shumpert
Damian Lillard
Harrison Barnes

All these guys did more than a year in college and just seem NBA ready when they came in to the league.

Also while there are guys like
Anthony Davis
Kyrie Irving
Andre Drummond

Who look like they have the talent to play in the NBA, their bodies are simple not ready for the NBA schedule in terms of the wear and tear.

Are the guys better off doing atleast 2-3 years of college before declaring for the NBA. Not only from the point of improving their game but also from the point of being physically ready for the grind of an 82 game season?

Alayla
03-16-2013, 10:18 AM
This is common sense.

Collings94
03-16-2013, 11:06 AM
I'm an advocate for going to college for more than a year for obvious reasons. Players can be further disciplined, more physically and mentally mature and experienced playing at a huge level. I can't stand Calipari's one and done program, that isn't college, it's a changing room for players to get dolled up for the NBA.

Certain players are going to be so talented that it doesn't matter if they go to college or not, but I think for the average draft pick, it's important to stay in school and get all the development necessary for the NBA quickly.

MaloDaw9
03-16-2013, 11:28 AM
Obviously..

IndyRealist
03-16-2013, 01:27 PM
Yes, BUT....it's one thing to tell a 17 year old high school senior that he's not mature enough to decide to skip college and go straight to the pros. It's completely different to tell an adult that he has to stay in school longer.

Manimal
03-16-2013, 02:06 PM
Yes, BUT....it's one thing to tell a 17 year old high school senior that he's not mature enough to decide to skip college and go straight to the pros. It's completely different to tell an adult that he has to stay in school longer.

Well it's just better for NBA teams. It makes more business sense to have more of a sample size to judge a player on. Just like NFL teams defend their own interests by insisting that a college player have at least three years of college football under their belt before declaring for the draft.

Corey
03-16-2013, 02:23 PM
I like players sticking around for 2 years in college. Much better atmosphere to refine their games to be quicker contributors in the NBA.

Hellcrooner
03-16-2013, 02:29 PM
they should not allow players under 21 in the league.

force them to stay at least 3 years in ncaa or in europe if they want to earn soe money.
same for europeans , no more spoiling prospects because of bringing them over too soon while they are raw.


21.

league level would go up.

JasonJohnHorn
03-16-2013, 04:39 PM
Some guys are NBA ready out of high school, some guys take a couple of seasons to really come into their own even after 4 years in college. It depends on the player.

LBJ was ready out of highschool, so was Amare. Garnet perhaps. M-Grady not so much. Webber could have come out of highschool and been good, it would have take him a couple of seasons to get to his pique, but he would have been able to contribute right away.

But the bottom line is they can come out early, get drafted and make money, rather than playing for free while colleges are making a fortune off of them... what would you do? Sure... they may come out to early and take themselves out of the running for ROY, but by the time their rookie contract is up, they'll me making potentially a max contract at the time they would have been starting a rookie contract had they stayed 4 years in college. What would you do?

Faneik
03-16-2013, 05:08 PM
they should not allow players under 21 in the league.

force them to stay at least 3 years in ncaa or in europe if they want to earn soe money.
same for europeans , no more spoiling prospects because of bringing them over too soon while they are raw.

21.

league level would go up.

and the ncaa level would go up also.

but like IndyRealist said, go tell that to the 18 year olds, who trained their entire lives that they have to wait 3 more years if they want their 1st pay-check in their own country.

if they enforced that rule, the majority of the high-school top prospects would follow the brandon jennings route. and then the ncaa would suffer from that.

Manimal
03-16-2013, 05:17 PM
Some guys are NBA ready out of high school, some guys take a couple of seasons to really come into their own even after 4 years in college. It depends on the player.

LBJ was ready out of highschool, so was Amare. Garnet perhaps. M-Grady not so much. Webber could have come out of highschool and been good, it would have take him a couple of seasons to get to his pique, but he would have been able to contribute right away.

But the bottom line is they can come out early, get drafted and make money, rather than playing for free while colleges are making a fortune off of them... what would you do? Sure... they may come out to early and take themselves out of the running for ROY, but by the time their rookie contract is up, they'll me making potentially a max contract at the time they would have been starting a rookie contract had they stayed 4 years in college. What would you do?

I am speaking from the point of view of NBA teams. They are paying guys to develop them on their rookie contracts.

Some of them turn out to be bargains. But look at the 2011 lottery, guys like Derrick Williams, Enes Kanter, Jonas V, Tristian Thompson, Biyombo and Brandon Knight are taking him somewhere between 3M-5M $ a year while not being close to the finished product. They are getting paid to develop and then once they are developed(if) they're gonna ask for huge contracts.

It's a stupid business from NBA teams.

t_money25
03-16-2013, 05:29 PM
I think every player is different. Some are ready and some aren't. You gotta look at each player independently.

gwrighter
03-16-2013, 06:25 PM
Generally speaking no they aren't ready. NBA teams spend too much money on player development IMO.