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justinnum1
03-09-2013, 07:08 PM
berman
Amare to have knee debridement surgery and will be out six weeks.

WOW.

Blitzace137
03-09-2013, 07:13 PM
smfh

Collings94
03-09-2013, 07:14 PM
Good things the Knicks got his contract insured, especially for a guy who has had knee problems in the past...

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 07:16 PM
Wow :pity:

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 07:17 PM
Tried to tell you this guy is done and when his contract is up he will probably retire. Its hard news to swallow but his career is over.

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 07:18 PM
Whatever. He's one of the worst defensive players in the league. We were a top 10 defense without him. As long as Melo is healthy...we're good.

JesusWears24
03-09-2013, 07:19 PM
berman

WOW.

And so it begins. A wave of injuries gives way to another Heat championship. Oh how happy u must be

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 07:20 PM
Tried to tell you this guy is done and when his contract is up he will probably retire. Its hard news to swallow but his career is over.

The way he changed his game offensively was pretty damn impressive. He's been an instant offense high effeciency spark for the Knicks for the last 15-20 games. With his new post moves he could easily have continued for a few years as a 14-6 PF.

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 07:20 PM
Knicks need to cut Rasheed and sign a big stop giving loyalty to a guy like Rasheed cause he and Woodson are friends.

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 07:21 PM
The way he changed his game offensively was pretty damn impressive. He's been an instant offense high effeciency spark for the Knicks for the last 15-20 games. With his new post moves he could easily have continued for a few years as a 14-6 PF.

Who knows but there is a reason he couldnt play more than like 25 minutes a game, and when Woodson got testy and refused to take Melo out and then played Amare big minutes they crumbled. Also so many old guys on the team. Team needs to get younger.

Enzo
03-09-2013, 07:21 PM
Nooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ATX
03-09-2013, 07:24 PM
And so it begins. A wave of injuries gives way to another Heat championship. Oh how happy u must be

Ya, because Amare was standing in the way of a Heat championship, lmao.

strahan92osi72
03-09-2013, 07:24 PM
Thank You Donnie Walsh.:face-palm:

Burkey3472
03-09-2013, 07:25 PM
The guy is made of glass, no one should be surprised by this. :laugh2:

strahan92osi72
03-09-2013, 07:25 PM
And so it begins. A wave of injuries gives way to another Heat championship. Oh how happy u must be

If anything, this makes the Knicks better, remember?

SOS
03-09-2013, 07:25 PM
Smh amare just smh

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 07:26 PM
Looks like the Nets will win the atlantic now and have home court in the playoffs.

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 07:27 PM
Thank You Donnie Walsh.:face-palm:

:laugh: You realize we don't get Melo if Walsh didn't get Amar'e first right? Walsh completely turned this franchise around.

SOS
03-09-2013, 07:27 PM
berman

WOW.

Can feel the joy you have right now. You must have absolutely no life

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 07:28 PM
Did everyone just forget the 18-5 start without Amar'e? The Knicks playing top 10 defense without Amar'e?

I'm sorry but I'm not going to cry or punch a fire extinguisher just because we lost an offensive spark off the bench.

More-Than-Most
03-09-2013, 07:29 PM
That contract is the gift that keeps on giving

TheNumber37
03-09-2013, 07:29 PM
so the Knicks will stay in the 3 rd seed. we should have cut sheed and got another scorer... I'd even give tmac a call at this point...

Jr smith is going to have to play like JR of November to carry this team... I say he takes 30 shots.tonight...

SteBO
03-09-2013, 07:29 PM
I'm with KOB on this one......NY was a top 10 defense before he returned to action. I did like the way he played once he got into playing shape (good post moves, attacking off the P&R with Melo), but his absence will lead the way towards more minutes for K-Mart and Camby. I don't think this is as big a deal as it comes across....

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 07:30 PM
Amare still has 2 more years after this, PHX said his knee wouldnt hold up in year 3.

TheNumber37
03-09-2013, 07:31 PM
Shumpert is gonna have to step up... has this guy had a dunk all season?

More-Than-Most
03-09-2013, 07:31 PM
Looks like the Nets will win the atlantic now and have home court in the playoffs.

Melo has something to say about that.

More-Than-Most
03-09-2013, 07:32 PM
Amare still has 2 more years after this, PHX said his knee wouldnt hold up in year 3.

yea those doctors over there are amazing honestly

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 07:32 PM
I've looked all around and can't find this, is there a link or another source backing this up?

strahan92osi72
03-09-2013, 07:32 PM
:laugh: You realize we don't get Melo if Walsh didn't get Amar'e first right? Walsh completely turned this franchise around.

Yeah because Amare and Melo gelled so well together, smh. Tanking for two years was supposed to get this team to elite level. The Knicks became a good team, but not an elite team. Therefore, the two years of tanking and embarassment wasn't worth it. In my eyes, he failed. Unless Melo can pull it off without Amare, that pairing was an unsuccessful one.

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 07:33 PM
Looks like the Nets will win the atlantic now and have home court in the playoffs.

:laugh2:

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 07:34 PM
Now Knicks are better without Amare? Knick fans you have to stop giving youselfs false hope. To make yourself feel better. Your season is over, I know it sucks and I am upset that they wont have a chance this year but its over. Maybe you will root for the other team in NY and give us some support just like we gave you last year.,

strahan92osi72
03-09-2013, 07:35 PM
In all seriousness, Woodson would never admit it, but he's not broken up by this. Amare's minutes limit and how to fit him in to a team that he doesn't fit in made Woodson's coaching life a living hell, you can tell.

More-Than-Most
03-09-2013, 07:35 PM
Melo was my mvp pick before the season because I thought King James would die.

More-Than-Most
03-09-2013, 07:36 PM
Now Knicks are better without Amare? Knick fans you have to stop giving youselfs false hope. To make yourself feel better. Your season is over, I know it sucks and I am upset that they wont have a chance this year but its over. Maybe you will root for the other team in NY and give us some support just like we gave you last year.,

yes they are....Were you not one of the ones saying they were when amare came back? Everyone said how the knicks playbetter without one of Melo/Amare....Now they go back to that and your changing your tune. Adorable

justinnum1
03-09-2013, 07:36 PM
And so it begins. A wave of injuries gives way to another Heat championship. Oh how happy u must be

llullz

heyman321
03-09-2013, 07:37 PM
Tough break... HAHAHHAHAHAH

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 07:37 PM
Knicks will be fine. Sucks that amare is out but we will fight through this

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 07:37 PM
Yeah because Amare and Melo gelled so well together, smh. Tanking for two years was supposed to get this team to elite level. The Knicks became a good team, but not an elite team. Therefore, the two years of tanking and embarassment wasn't worth it. In my eyes, he failed. Unless Melo can pull it off without Amare, that pairing was an unsuccessful one.

You can "smh" all you want but the fact is Walsh was signed Amar'e and that made the Knicks a significantly better team and because they Knicks looked better and had another star... that got Melo's attention. That allowed us to acquire Melo and now we're lookin at a team 15 games over .500 and a #3 seed in the playoffs with a top 10 player to hopefully lead us to the ECF.

If you don't appreciate that then you either didn't watch us during the rest of the 2000s or are a REALLY HARD sell. :laugh:

More-Than-Most
03-09-2013, 07:37 PM
Knicks with or without amare have 0 shot at the heat but they are still better than the nets

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 07:38 PM
Now Knicks are better without Amare? Knick fans you have to stop giving youselfs false hope. To make yourself feel better. Your season is over, I know it sucks and I am upset that they wont have a chance this year but its over. Maybe you will root for the other team in NY and give us some support just like we gave you last year.,

He really does make trolling an art form doesn't he? :)

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 07:40 PM
Knicks with or without amare have 0 shot at the heat but they are still better than the nets

Everybody in the playoffs have more then 0 shot. I agree with th second who. Dmf is the alpha of the nba forum lol.

knicks=love
03-09-2013, 07:41 PM
Looks like the Nets will win the atlantic now and have home court in the playoffs.

this made me lol

strahan92osi72
03-09-2013, 07:42 PM
You can "smh" all you want but the fact is Walsh was signed Amar'e and that made the Knicks a significantly better team and because they Knicks looked better and had another star... that got Melo's attention. That allowed us to acquire Melo and now we're lookin at a team 15 games over .500 and a #3 seed in the playoffs with a top 10 player to hopefully lead us to the ECF.

If you don't appreciate that then you either didn't watch us during the rest of the 2000s or are a REALLY HARD sell. :laugh:

How are you certain Melo wouldn't have come here if Amare wasn't here? That's not necessarily true. How would this lineup look right about now?

PG-Felton
SG-W.Chandler
SF-Gallo
PF-Melo
C-Chandler

PG-Kidd
SG-Shump
SF-A. Randolph
PF-Camby
C-Mozgov

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 07:42 PM
Now Knicks are better without Amare? Knick fans you have to stop giving youselfs false hope. To make yourself feel better. Your season is over, I know it sucks and I am upset that they wont have a chance this year but its over. Maybe you will root for the other team in NY and give us some support just like we gave you last year.,

He really does make trolling an art form doesn't he? :)

dude im really upset I was actually hoping to see a Nets Knicks ECF, I want the Knicks to do good not better than the Nets but good. Now it doesnt look like it will happened. So be a NYer and root for the Nets now.

knicks=love
03-09-2013, 07:42 PM
Melo was my mvp pick before the season because I thought King James would die.

this made me :laugh:

More-Than-Most
03-09-2013, 07:43 PM
Everybody in the playoffs have more then 0 shot. I agree with th second who. Dmf is the alpha of the nba forum lol.

If this was football I would agree

Lol....Come on I had to take a shot at ya its been to long

knicks=love
03-09-2013, 07:43 PM
dude im really upset I was actually hoping to see a Nets Knicks ECF, I want the Knicks to do good not better than the Nets but good. Now it doesnt look like it will happened. So be a NYer and root for the Nets now.

this thread is killing me :laugh:

More-Than-Most
03-09-2013, 07:45 PM
this made me :laugh:

Lol its not a shot at melo because he has been wow.... I honestly predicted he would be wow and just flat out forgot about Lebron... I didn't think Melo would play better than James but figured Melo would carry the knicks and get the nudge from the award givers.

29$JerZ
03-09-2013, 07:45 PM
I'm too sad to even joke around. This just blows. Our medical staff is terrible. It wouldn't surprise me if we would of ruined Steph Curry's and Eric Gordon's career had we drafted them.

kdspurman
03-09-2013, 07:45 PM
He was playing well it seemed, guy just can't catch a break. Hoping he can recover at some point.

More-Than-Most
03-09-2013, 07:46 PM
I'm too sad to even joke around. This just blows. Our medical staff is terrible. It wouldn't surprise me if we would of ruined Steph Curry's and Eric Gordon's career had we drafted them.

This is something that on a serious level needs to be looked into...This cant keep happening on that team.

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 07:47 PM
Hopefully Martin steps up

knicks=love
03-09-2013, 07:49 PM
Lol its not a shot at melo because he has been wow.... I honestly predicted he would be wow and just flat out forgot about Lebron... I didn't think Melo would play better than James but figured Melo would carry the knicks and get the nudge from the award givers.

hahah no i know, i just thought it was funny how you said it.

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 07:50 PM
If this was football I would agree

Lol....Come on I had to take a shot at ya its been to long

Lol yeah he is just as bad though lol. And yeah I was waiting for a shot in the nfl forum but you come here and deliver it lol

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 07:50 PM
How are you certain Melo wouldn't have come here if Amare wasn't here? That's not necessarily true. How would this lineup look right about now?

PG-Felton
SG-W.Chandler
SF-Gallo
PF-Melo
C-Chandler

PG-Kidd
SG-Shump
SF-A. Randolph
PF-Camby
C-Mozgov

We didn't have Chandler/Kidd/Shump at that time.

It would have been Felton-Fields-Chandler-Gallo-Turiaf and we would have been 20 games under 500. He's not coming to that team. Then we would have had to give Chandler and Gallo money just to keep them and bury ourselves the same way teams like the Raptors have done. Walsh signing STAT was the first real step toward turning around this franchise. And it worked.

Sactown
03-09-2013, 07:51 PM
Melo is out tonight because of a knee injury.

D12 fan
03-09-2013, 07:52 PM
It's Official Amare Stoudemire Is Damaged Goods!

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 07:53 PM
We didn't have Chandler/Kidd/Shump at that time.

It would have been Felton-Fields-Chandler-Gallo-Turiaf and we would have been 20 games under 500. He's not coming to that team. Then we would have had to give Chandler and Gallo money just to keep them and bury ourselves the same way teams like the Raptors have done. Walsh signing STAT was the first real step toward turning around this franchise. And it worked.


Agree 100%. It would be nice to have gallo ad chandlers offense now. I think scoring is going to be a problem now unless JR can get hot again.. But we don't have a true number two scoring threat any ore

Knicks21
03-09-2013, 07:56 PM
Just as he was hitting his stride... only the knicks.

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 07:56 PM
Agree 100%. It would be nice to have gallo ad chandlers offense now. I think scoring is going to be a problem now unless JR can get hot again.. But we don't have a true number two scoring threat any ore

it sucks the Knicks center who is paid heavy has no offense at all.

bucketss
03-09-2013, 07:57 PM
damn.. now the knicks will go on a huge run.

Stunner
03-09-2013, 07:57 PM
Knicks did play better without Amare .....they were also shooting crazy good from the 3 . Not so much lately

GiantsSwaGG
03-09-2013, 07:57 PM
I hate to see players get injured but this is a good thing. He sucks defensively. Now we can sign Lou who I rather want!

GiantsSwaGG
03-09-2013, 07:58 PM
damn.. now the knicks will go on a huge run.

Knicks played better without him and now the Knicks won't be forced to play Melo and stat at the same time. Remember Knicks beat the heat twice without stat!

justinnum1
03-09-2013, 08:00 PM
I hate to see players get injured but this is a good thing. He sucks defensively. Now we can sign Lou who I rather want!

amundson? he signed with the bulls

shep33
03-09-2013, 08:00 PM
Sucks for Knicks fans. Amare was playing well, looked like the old Amare :(

Hope he gets well

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 08:01 PM
it sucks the Knicks center who is paid heavy has no offense at all.

Sucks nets center is paied like a top center but rebounds likes a SG

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 08:02 PM
Knicks did play better without Amare .....they were also shooting crazy good from the 3 . Not so much lately

This is a smart observation. However, a big part of that was Novak was playing about 8-12 minutes more per game before Stoudemire came back. More Novak = better floor spacing and much better 3pt shooting.

GiantsSwaGG
03-09-2013, 08:04 PM
This is a smart observation. However, a big part of that was Novak was playing about 8-12 minutes more per game before Stoudemire came back. More Novak = better floor spacing and much better 3pt shooting.

Novak sucks defensive and will hurt us in that area. K Mart mins will go up, again I hate to see players get injured but this will force Woodson to play Cope, K Mart.

D12 fan
03-09-2013, 08:04 PM
Sucks nets center is paied like a top center but rebounds likes a SGlol Dude Lopez has been playing like a top 3 center this year. Lopez>Chandler this year.

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 08:07 PM
Sucks nets center is paied like a top center but rebounds likes a SG

Tyson plays next to a SF as a PF and his back taps count as rebounds. Lopez plays next to Reggie Evans the best rebounder in the league. Lopez only plays 30 min a game also.

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 08:11 PM
Allow me to illustrate the following exchange:


it sucks the Knicks center who is paid heavy has no offense at all.
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Sucks nets center is paied like a top center but rebounds likes a SG

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LINsation
03-09-2013, 08:12 PM
I'm too sad to even joke around. This just blows. Our medical staff is terrible. It wouldn't surprise me if we would of ruined Steph Curry's and Eric Gordon's career had we drafted them.
True story. Smh. This kinda ruined my night

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 08:13 PM
Novak sucks defensive and will hurt us in that area. K Mart mins will go up, again I hate to see players get injured but this will force Woodson to play Cope, K Mart.

But there will be more minutes for Kenyon Martin/Marcus Camby and other who can potentially bring strong defense. In addition,

Novak > Amar'e on defensive

Yes. I'm serious.

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 08:13 PM
Novak sucks defensive and will hurt us in that area. K Mart mins will go up, again I hate to see players get injured but this will force Woodson to play Cope, K Mart.

Yeah but his floor spacing when he is on is worth it. Rotation will prob look something like this
Felton-Kidd-Pablo
Iman-jr-Kidd
Melo-Novak-cope white will start for 5 mins
Melo-Martin-Novak melo will start at pf but get a lot of time at the 3 hopefully
Tyson-camby

knicks=love
03-09-2013, 08:13 PM
Tyson plays next to a SF as a PF and his back taps count as rebounds. Lopez plays next to Reggie Evans the best rebounder in the league. Lopez only plays 30 min a game also.

you wonder why people think you're crazy

29$JerZ
03-09-2013, 08:14 PM
Tyson plays next to a SF as a PF and his back taps count as rebounds. Lopez plays next to Reggie Evans the best rebounder in the league. Lopez only plays 30 min a game also.

It's pretty sad when you are dead wrong on not just the Knicks but your own team...

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 08:15 PM
Allow me to illustrate the following exchange:


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Lol I know he is trolling just not in the mood, so I sai something.. Also Novak is not a better defender then amare but amare is terrible so I get your point

LINsation
03-09-2013, 08:17 PM
How are you certain Melo wouldn't have come here if Amare wasn't here? That's not necessarily true. How would this lineup look right about now?

PG-Felton
SG-W.Chandler
SF-Gallo
PF-Melo
C-Chandler

PG-Kidd
SG-Shump
SF-A. Randolph
PF-Camby
C-Mozgov[/QUOTE]

Hard to look at those teams. I kinda remember having to give all that up for melo. As I recall he didnt want to wait for free agency. We actually had the money but melo didnt want to wait so we were forced to move

HouRealCoach
03-09-2013, 08:19 PM
This team will need some fresh legs, scoring, and to get young..

Sandman
03-09-2013, 08:19 PM
Yeah because Amare and Melo gelled so well together, smh. Tanking for two years was supposed to get this team to elite level. The Knicks became a good team, but not an elite team. Therefore, the two years of tanking and embarassment wasn't worth it. In my eyes, he failed. Unless Melo can pull it off without Amare, that pairing was an unsuccessful one.
Do you understand where this team was for 10 years? They're now the 2nd or 3rd seed in the Conference. That's a complete turn around, and thats with more than just Amare getting banged up.

JesusWears24
03-09-2013, 08:21 PM
Its shame he got injured even though he was never as good as he was supposed to be in NY.

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 08:22 PM
How are you certain Melo wouldn't have come here if Amare wasn't here? That's not necessarily true. How would this lineup look right about now?

PG-Felton
SG-W.Chandler
SF-Gallo
PF-Melo
C-Chandler

PG-Kidd
SG-Shump
SF-A. Randolph
PF-Camby
C-Mozgov

Hard to look at those teams. I kinda remember having to give all that up for melo. As I recall he didnt want to wait for free agency. We actually had the money but melo didnt want to wait so we were forced to move[/QUOTE]

Dude we didn't have Chandler or Kidd. We had to amnesty Billups just to get the money for Chandler. Turiaf would have been our starting center with Felton-Fields-Gallo-Chandler. We would have been grossly undersized and abused by teams in the paint. We wouldn't have had a #1 option and guys like Felton and Fields would have been taking WAY too many shots. Recipe for disaster. Melo wouldn't have wanted any part of that. Stat and an improving team made it all possible.

LINsation
03-09-2013, 08:25 PM
How are you certain Melo wouldn't have come here if Amare wasn't here? That's not necessarily true. How would this lineup look right about now?

PG-Felton
SG-W.Chandler
SF-Gallo
PF-Melo
C-Chandler

PG-Kidd
SG-Shump
SF-A. Randolph
PF-Camby
C-Mozgov

Hard to look at those teams. I kinda remember having to give all that up for melo. As I recall he didnt want to wait for free agency. We actually had the money but melo didnt want to wait so we were forced to move

Dude we didn't have Chandler or Kidd. We had to amnesty Billups just to get the money for Chandler. Turiaf would have been our starting center with Felton-Fields-Gallo-Chandler. We would have been grossly undersized and abused by teams in the paint. We wouldn't have had a #1 option and guys like Felton and Fields would have been taking WAY too many shots. Recipe for disaster. Melo wouldn't have wanted any part of that. Stat and an improving team made it all possible.[/QUOTE]

Thats what im saying. My response was that those teams are impossible to imagine

Sandman
03-09-2013, 08:26 PM
Dude we didn't have Chandler or Kidd. We had to amnesty Billups just to get the money for Chandler. Turiaf would have been our starting center with Felton-Fields-Gallo-Chandler. We would have been grossly undersized and abused by teams in the paint. We wouldn't have had a #1 option and guys like Felton and Fields would have been taking WAY too many shots. Recipe for disaster. Melo wouldn't have wanted any part of that. Stat and an improving team made it all possible.
He's way off base.

So you're telling me that without Stoudemire, they wouldn't have had to trade Gallinari for him?

I think the end result would be they sign David Lee instead. Who knows if Melo comes to that team.

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 08:26 PM
Its shame he got injured even though he was never as good as he was supposed to be in NY.

It was great when we first got him.

KnicksorBust
03-09-2013, 08:29 PM
Do you understand where this team was for 10 years? They're now the 2nd or 3rd seed in the Conference. That's a complete turn around, and thats with more than just Amare getting banged up.

Thatta baby. Way to have perspective. Great post.

DoMeFavors
03-09-2013, 08:29 PM
you wonder why people think you're crazy

23 minutes 9.6 rebounds

Aust
03-09-2013, 08:30 PM
lolwow, give the Heat an even easier stroll to the Finals ha

therealwd27
03-09-2013, 08:40 PM
If Amare was your answer to beat Miami then you were going to be disappointed anyways.

Sucks though never wish bad on any player, he might be done. Phoenix was right about him

justinnum1
03-09-2013, 08:42 PM
lolwow, give the Heat an even easier stroll to the Finals ha

heat were never going to see the knicks in the playoffs. pacers are going to get by the knicks easily in round 2.

rockbottom2010
03-09-2013, 08:44 PM
the knicks fans better pray for carmelo to come back sooner rather than later

Matrix3132
03-09-2013, 08:46 PM
Do you understand where this team was for 10 years? They're now the 2nd or 3rd seed in the Conference. That's a complete turn around, and thats with more than just Amare getting banged up.

What is the goal, to be the 2nd or 3rd seed in the conference or to win a ring?

Some of us are disgusted that the knicks wasted the whole rebuilding process and wasted all the created cap space on a team that was only ever good enough to be the 2nd or 3rd seed and nothing more.

I'd rather watch an 8th seed that has the potential to compete for a title in a couple years than this current squad who will be lucky to get to the conference finals this year and probably be competing for a lower seed next year...

b@llhog24
03-09-2013, 08:55 PM
you wonder why people think you're crazy


It's pretty sad when you are dead wrong on not just the Knicks but your own team...

What's so laughable? There's a legit argument for him being the best rebounder in the league.

NYKNYGNYY
03-09-2013, 08:57 PM
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, he was coming back so strong, I guess im not surprised but I didn't hear anything about this until tonight before the game...he was coming back so strong. I guess woody shoulda given him a night off here n there

NYKNYGNYY
03-09-2013, 08:57 PM
just hope he comes back strong for playoffs

Matrix3132
03-09-2013, 08:58 PM
just hope he comes back strong for playoffs

I think it's safe to say he's done for the year

Sandman
03-09-2013, 09:04 PM
What is the goal, to be the 2nd or 3rd seed in the conference or to win a ring?

Some of us are disgusted that the knicks wasted the whole rebuilding process and wasted all the created cap space on a team that was only ever good enough to be the 2nd or 3rd seed and nothing more.

I'd rather watch an 8th seed that has the potential to compete for a title in a couple years than this current squad who will be lucky to get to the conference finals this year and probably be competing for a lower seed next year...
To win a ring is obviously the goal but the Knicks aren't in purgatory they're at the top of the conference. The lottery is a crapshoot too.

Only 1 team can win every year. Nobody goes 16-0 in the playoffs. There's a reason they play the games.

Knicks can win a playoff series this year. The Knicks have also played pretty well against the Heat this year - not guaranteeing a win but I'd like to see the series.

Would you throw away the 90s teams because they didn't win titles? How do you know you can't beat Jordan if you don't try and beat Jordan?

Matrix3132
03-09-2013, 09:12 PM
To win a ring is obviously the goal but the Knicks aren't in purgatory they're at the top of the conference. The lottery is a crapshoot too.

Only 1 team can win every year. Nobody goes 16-0 in the playoffs. There's a reason they play the games.

Knicks can win a playoff series this year. The Knicks have also played pretty well against the Heat this year - not guaranteeing a win but I'd like to see the series.

Would you throw away the 90s teams because they didn't win titles? How do you know you can't beat Jordan if you don't try and beat Jordan?

Obviously any team can win on any given night, no argument there.

But after a decade in shambles they built a team to compete for 1-2 years. You can't win a ring overpaying a guy with glass knees, or overpaying tyson at the end of his prime just because he won a ring the year before, or trading away all of your homegrown talent for a player trying to get more money in melo, or by having the oldest supporting cast anyone can remember.

And to answer your question, I'd throw away any team that doesn't look like it can win a title, in all sports you're either competing, rebuilding, or dismantling and the knicks aren't doing any of those.

Mr_Jones
03-09-2013, 09:14 PM
Tried to tell you this guy is done and when his contract is up he will probably retire. Its hard news to swallow but his career is over.

Deron williams is not a top 5 point guard.

29$JerZ
03-09-2013, 09:23 PM
What's so laughable? There's a legit argument for him being the best rebounder in the league.

Using Reggie Evans for the excuse why Lopez rebounding numbers are where they are is dead wrong.

oak2455
03-09-2013, 09:28 PM
Tried to tell you this guy is done and when his contract is up he will probably retire. Its hard news to swallow but his career is over.

What are you swallowing now?!?

oak2455
03-09-2013, 09:30 PM
heat were never going to see the knicks in the playoffs. pacers are going to get by the knicks easily in round 2.

Here's the guy :laugh:

lol, please
03-09-2013, 09:30 PM
berman

WOW.

Personally for him, I hope he gets better. As far as his TEAM is concerned, I love it. My emotions can best be manifested in the following way. :laugh2:

NYKNYGNYY
03-09-2013, 09:39 PM
I think it's safe to say he's done for the year

I think hes done too but im still gonna hope

Utd7
03-09-2013, 09:47 PM
WHAT!!!!!!! I woke up from my nap to this news!?! Smh

TheRazorboy
03-09-2013, 09:54 PM
I bet he's so angry he could just punch some glass.

oak2455
03-09-2013, 10:02 PM
I bet he's so angry he could just punch some glass.

Ohhhh my that's funny ..... New jokes .... :laugh:

calibird707
03-09-2013, 10:33 PM
Enter k-mart...all you knick haters go give head to a shout gun#knicknation

mdm692
03-09-2013, 10:37 PM
Whatever. He's one of the worst defensive players in the league. We were a top 10 defense without him. As long as Melo is healthy...we're good.
I want to hear you say "whatever" when FA comes and you guys can't do **** because of his crippling contract.

Asik's better
03-09-2013, 10:47 PM
It sucks that so many players careers lately have been ruined by injuries. Imagine how good the league would be if there was fully healthy Yao, T-Mac, Oden, Roy and Amare with none of there careers ruined by injury.

Matrix3132
03-09-2013, 11:16 PM
It sucks that so many players careers lately have been ruined by injuries. Imagine how good the league would be if there was fully healthy Yao, T-Mac, Oden, Roy and Amare with none of there careers ruined by injury.

Probably within the last month some high school kid who would've/should've made it to the nba in a few years got injured and now will never play pro ball.

Doors close on some, spots open up for others, that's not just in sports, that's life.

Knick_Fever
03-09-2013, 11:22 PM
Hey I forgot about this thread, lol. Anyone miss Amare??? lol, I dont think so. Its funny how this thread got phased out so fast after tonight's blowout. Come on trolls where you at?

dodie53
03-09-2013, 11:26 PM
too bad.
again.

king4day
03-09-2013, 11:26 PM
This is the exact reason the SUns offered 3 years guaranteed with the final two years not. And this is why Amar'e went to NY. Suns training staff knew his knees were in bad shape and would fail him late in the contract. It's actually happening earlier than predicted.

king4day
03-09-2013, 11:28 PM
Hey I forgot about this thread, lol. Anyone miss Amare??? lol, I dont think so. Its funny how this thread got phased out so fast after tonight's blowout. Come on trolls where you at?
Beating Utah isn't difficult these days. They've been awful the last couple of weeks.
Losing Amar'e will be big. By the time he returns, it will hurt chemistry and he'll have to figure things out again. It's a huge deal.

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 11:31 PM
Anybody that doesn't think it's a big deal doesn't know what there talking about. It hurts but we have to look past it and hope the D is enough to get us through it. Martin has looked great the last two games.

Knick_Fever
03-09-2013, 11:46 PM
Beating Utah isn't difficult these days. They've been awful the last couple of weeks.
Losing Amar'e will be big. By the time he returns, it will hurt chemistry and he'll have to figure things out again. It's a huge deal.

First of all its really not a big deal. Remember when we started 18-5 without him? And yes we beat an avg. team like Utah, but by 30? without Melo and Amare? Dude, while I like Amare, we're just fine without him. Stop building him up like he's some sort of savior just for trolling purposes.

Knick_Fever
03-09-2013, 11:49 PM
Anybody that doesn't think it's a big deal doesn't know what there talking about. It hurts but we have to look past it and hope the D is enough to get us through it. Martin has looked great the last two games.

I think you really have to question yourself and not anyone else about this. Yes he helps in specific situations under the right system, but our defensive continuity flows better w/out him.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
03-09-2013, 11:50 PM
Hey I forgot about this thread, lol. Anyone miss Amare??? lol, I dont think so. Its funny how this thread got phased out so fast after tonight's blowout. Come on trolls where you at?

It's one game dude...

king4day
03-09-2013, 11:50 PM
First of all its really not a big deal. Remember when we started 18-5 without him? And yes we beat an avg. team like Utah, but by 30? without Melo and Amare? Dude, while I like Amare, we're just fine without him. Stop building him up like he's some sort of savior just for trolling purposes.

I'm from NY and still root for NY when they don't play the Suns. I have no reason to troll. Stop thinking everyone is trolling when they give their opinions. It's easy to throw that word around without a clear mind.

Thinking you won't need Amar'e in a long playoff series is silly. The Knicks are struggling to stay healthy and there's no assurances they'll have everyone in the playoffs.

xxplayerxx23
03-09-2013, 11:57 PM
In the playoffs things slow down into a half court game, Knicks can't just rely on melo to score every time down the floor you need a second guy to trust. You can trust jr sometimes but in a 7 game series? I don't trust jr to be our 2nd scorer. He can get hot and win us some games but there are games where he is flat out terrible, amare was very efficient and big off the bench. We need Martin and others to step it up and hope melo doesn't wear down

Knick_Fever
03-10-2013, 12:13 AM
I'm from NY and still root for NY when they don't play the Suns. I have no reason to troll. Stop thinking everyone is trolling when they give their opinions. It's easy to throw that word around without a clear mind.

Thinking you won't need Amar'e in a long playoff series is silly. The Knicks are struggling to stay healthy and there's no assurances they'll have everyone in the playoffs.

Well how else should you expect anyone to respond when you're making a claim so outrageous? And to compound the matter you bring up what could possibly be in the future with our health situation, you simply dont know that, we all don't. That goes for all teams for that matter. We are a much more fluid team without him. On a side note, good to hear that you root for NY. Since your a fan, just try rooting for K-mart in the meantime, because he's been a very nice replacement so far, particularly on the defensive end.

sunsfan88
03-10-2013, 01:16 AM
Robert Sarver is laughing at the Knicks FO and their fans....

At least yall got lucky you got 'Melo :o

Knick_Fever
03-10-2013, 01:21 AM
Robert Sarver is laughing at the Knicks FO and their fans....

At least yall got lucky you got 'Melo :o

Lol, hey at least we're not a laughing stock of the league.

Hawkeye15
03-10-2013, 01:40 AM
they wont miss him

Becks2307
03-10-2013, 02:04 AM
Robert Sarver is laughing at the Knicks FO and their fans....

At least yall got lucky you got 'Melo :o


Lol Knick fans are pretty happy we were not in the playoffs for a decade, now we are a top 3 seed, thats a pretty big difference.

Jesse2272
03-10-2013, 04:36 AM
they wont miss him

In JR we trust

Mcdoh
03-10-2013, 04:56 AM
cut sheed..

lol, please
03-10-2013, 04:57 AM
Knicks season is basically over. Good news is you guys can root for the Dubs. :cool:

Jesse2272
03-10-2013, 05:04 AM
Knicks season is basically over. Good news is you guys can root for the Dubs. :cool:

Far from it

Melo needs an iron man suit

well still make noise brah

Teeboy1487
03-10-2013, 05:24 AM
Knicks will be fine. Didn't they sign Keyon Martin a few weeks ago? Imo they should improve defensively.

ILLUSIONIST^248
03-10-2013, 06:01 AM
They had no chance at the heat anyways.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
03-10-2013, 06:29 AM
This is actually good for the knicks.

GiantsSwaGG
03-10-2013, 07:01 AM
Again this is good news for the Knicks even thou it cause for a player being injured!

Vinny642
03-10-2013, 07:44 AM
I didnt even know he was playing this season, i saw the first few games when he came back and that was it

KnicksorBust
03-10-2013, 09:41 AM
Novak/KMart/Camby > Amar'e

YashBoone
03-10-2013, 10:05 AM
Looks like the Nets will win the atlantic now and have home court in the playoffs.

Lol, you get funnier and funnier every time I see you post something.

oak2455
03-10-2013, 10:25 AM
I didnt even know he was playing this season, i saw the first few games when he came back and that was it

Does that even make a bit of sense ?!?

oak2455
03-10-2013, 10:27 AM
Reading some of these post :laugh:

GiantsSwaGG
03-10-2013, 02:43 PM
Novak/KMart/Camby > Amar'e

Melo at the PF>>>Amare

GiantsSwaGG
03-10-2013, 02:44 PM
Reading some of these post :laugh:

Why does Mariano ankle look broke in your sig? Lol

D-Leethal
03-10-2013, 02:47 PM
Amare played well and I admire what hes done but he didn't really push this team forward or make us any better on anything but paper.

Our D will be better instantly and KMart has been damn good for us albeit in a small sample size. No more Amare/Novak frontlines coming off the bench. We hit our peak without Amare and we will do it again.

GiantsSwaGG
03-10-2013, 02:50 PM
Amare played well and I admire what hes done but he didn't really push this team forward or make us any better on anything but paper.

Our D will be better instantly and KMart has been damn good for us albeit in a small sample size. No more Amare/Novak frontlines coming off the bench. We hit our peak without Amare and we will do it again.

Agreed. Plus it forces Melo to move back to the PF because when he's a SF, he becomes more of a jump shooter

SteBO
03-10-2013, 02:57 PM
Well, the Knicks also had guys shooting ridiculous percentages from 3 and from the field in general, so to just say that with Amare out you'll hit your peak again is kinda short sighted.

The thing that should improve with this is their defense.....I wanted K-Mart along with Birdman for a reason. Hes a good defender and he's showing it again with limited minutes after just coming back.

LeperMessiah
03-10-2013, 02:59 PM
That didn't take long

D-Leethal
03-10-2013, 03:01 PM
Well, the Knicks also had guys shooting ridiculous percentages from 3 and from the field in general, so to just say that with Amare out you'll hit your peak again is kinda short sighted.

The thing that should improve with this is their defense.....I wanted K-Mart along with Birdman for a reason. Hes a good defender and he's showing it again with limited minutes after just coming back.

I think the shots are gonna start falling again and the D will improve. The shots have been falling as of late, were playing much better basketball and are making are way back up to that peak. I've been saying all season these guys for whatever reason don't play hungry regular season basketball and coast, they are not thrilled with the regular season and come out sleepwalking. That doesn't make me happy as a fan but with the oldest team and a bunch of accomplished veterans its somewhat expected. The only concern is winning the division and every single time BK came within a game we put our foot back on the gas and built another cushion. I'm sticking to that.

I didn't give KMart enough credit for his ability to defend the perimeter. He is almost like our Shawn Marion defensively.

KnicksorBust
03-10-2013, 03:08 PM
Well, the Knicks also had guys shooting ridiculous percentages from 3 and from the field in general, so to just say that with Amare out you'll hit your peak again is kinda short sighted.

The thing that should improve with this is their defense.....I wanted K-Mart along with Birdman for a reason. Hes a good defender and he's showing it again with limited minutes after just coming back.

I also don't think it's a stretch to imagine that our shooting will improve. Stoudemire clogged the paint and didn't pass (0.4apg this season). With him out, that means Novak's minutes will almost double which means more minutes for an elite shooter, more floor spacing for Carmelo to drive and kick, and more ball movement.

KnicksorBust
03-10-2013, 03:10 PM
I think the shots are gonna start falling again and the D will improve. The shots have been falling as of late, were playing much better basketball and are making are way back up to that peak. I've been saying all season these guys for whatever reason don't play hungry regular season basketball and coast, they are not thrilled with the regular season and come out sleepwalking. That doesn't make me happy as a fan but with the oldest team and a bunch of accomplished veterans its somewhat expected. The only concern is winning the division and every single time BK came within a game we put our foot back on the gas and built another cushion. I'm sticking to that.

I didn't give KMart enough credit for his ability to defend the perimeter. He is almost like our Shawn Marion defensively.

I'm excited by what we've seen out of KMart but I'm still hesitant to rely on him for big minutes. Everyone got all jacked up over Sheed and his play was sporadic until he broke down. Fortunately KMart is younger so there is hope but really as long as we split up STAT's minutes with Novak/KMart/Camby we'll be good.

SteBO
03-10-2013, 03:14 PM
Oh no, until recently NY hasn't been good from the perimeter. It'll get better for sure I think.....just as long as they aren't as reliant on the 3 or on 'Melo, they'll be fine offensively.

D-Leethal
03-10-2013, 03:21 PM
I'm excited by what we've seen out of KMart but I'm still hesitant to rely on him for big minutes. Everyone got all jacked up over Sheed and his play was sporadic until he broke down. Fortunately KMart is younger so there is hope but really as long as we split up STAT's minutes with Novak/KMart/Camby we'll be good.

I think we all have our reservations based on the injuries this year and last year. But its tough not to get juiced up watching this guy play next to Tyson.

iam brett favre
03-10-2013, 03:42 PM
Whatever. He's one of the worst defensive players in the league. We were a top 10 defense without him. As long as Melo is healthy...we're good.

No...you're really not. Been saying it all season.

KnicksorBust
03-10-2013, 07:01 PM
Whatever. He's one of the worst defensive players in the league. We were a top 10 defense without him. As long as Melo is healthy...we're good.

No...you're really not. Been saying it all season.

Then you have been wrong all season. :)

PlezPlayDKnicks
03-10-2013, 08:21 PM
Well, the Knicks also had guys shooting ridiculous percentages from 3 and from the field in general, so to just say that with Amare out you'll hit your peak again is kinda short sighted.

The thing that should improve with this is their defense.....I wanted K-Mart along with Birdman for a reason. Hes a good defender and he's showing it again with limited minutes after just coming back.

Agreed

SluggeR
03-10-2013, 08:51 PM
STAT has been the most efficient player on the Knicks. He's the only guy we have that's willing to get paints in the post night-in & night-out. You are not gonna win a ring by only heaving jumpers. I hope my boy has a timely recovery and comes back balling. People don't understand how important STAT is for the Knicks ultimate success..

KnicksorBust
03-10-2013, 08:57 PM
STAT has been the most efficient player on the Knicks. He's the only guy we have that's willing to get paints in the post night-in & night-out. You are not gonna win a ring by only heaving jumpers. I hope my boy has a timely recovery and comes back balling. People don't understand how important STAT is for the Knicks ultimate success..

Melo gives us some back to basket work but it wouldn't exactly be historic for us to win without a true post option anyway. Neither the Heat nor the Thunder feed the post to get wins. Celtics... Mavs... Mid 2000 Pistons... 90s Bulls...

BBallfan8
03-10-2013, 11:28 PM
Knicks fans will always have a soft spot for STAT... to me he is still the face of that franchise. This guy has been all class and a true professional since he got here. Its unfortunate that he has been so unlucky with his health during his career, he could have been a special player. He's fought back through worse and he will be back again...

https://twitter.com/Amareisreal/status/310919098794119171/photo/1

DoMeFavors
03-10-2013, 11:30 PM
Knicks have a TON of flaws and I am not sure a team that mentally weak and inexperienced could get into the playoffs with the atlantic division title now.

BBallfan8
03-10-2013, 11:35 PM
Knicks have a TON of flaws and I am not sure a team that mentally weak and inexperienced could get into the playoffs with the atlantic division title now.

We get it... "NETS ARE WINNING THE ATLANTIC DIVISION".... worry about your own teams flaws, Nets spent 300 million dollars to be an average basketball team.

JEDean89
03-10-2013, 11:38 PM
Knicks have a TON of flaws and I am not sure a team that mentally weak and inexperienced could get into the playoffs with the atlantic division title now.

yep, about half as many flaws as the nets though, i'm glad someones pain brings you joy, you seem like the type of person no one likes. mentally weak? yah and we are winning the atlantic too. but what would make me truly happy is if the knicks play the nets and you have to hear the melo MVP chants in barclay. But yah enjoy you second fiddle team who paid 50 mil to players who aren't even above average players.

Gerald Wallace PER = 12.14 for 10 mil a year (damian lillard says hi btw)
Kris Humphries PER = 13.16 for 12 mil a year, this is just hillarious
Joe Johnson PER = 13.95 for 20 mil a year

So you get 1 below average player and 2 way below average players for 40 mil a year, that is mental weakness at it's finest. But ya man keep trolling and you will get better. Good trolls aren't defeated in arguments so easy as you, you are more a gremlin than a troll. A little ***** with nothing positive to talk about, and clearly not enough to do than get defeated all day on PSD forums.

jerellh528
03-10-2013, 11:44 PM
lol i dont know how a thread about an amare injury can get to 11 pages and counting.

DoMeFavors
03-10-2013, 11:46 PM
yep, about half as many flaws as the nets though, i'm glad someones pain brings you joy, you seem like the type of person no one likes. mentally weak? yah and we are winning the atlantic too. but what would make me truly happy is if the knicks play the nets and you have to hear the melo MVP chants in barclay. But yah enjoy you second fiddle team who paid 50 mil to players who aren't even above average players.

Gerald Wallace PER = 12.14 for 10 mil a year (damian lillard says hi btw)
Kris Humphries PER = 13.16 for 12 mil a year, this is just hillarious
Joe Johnson PER = 13.95 for 20 mil a year

So you get 1 below average player and 2 way below average players for 40 mil a year, that is mental weakness at it's finest. But ya man keep trolling and you will get better. Good trolls aren't defeated in arguments so easy as you, you are more a gremlin than a troll. A little ***** with nothing positive to talk about, and clearly not enough to do than get defeated all day on PSD forums.

I dont care about stuff that doesnt matter to the actual future of our basketball teams. I am not taking joy in it, Melo isnt even taking a flight to the west coast trip who knows what is wrong with him. Plus a team full of 35 year olds is going to get injuries and the players are going to get tired like Jason Kidd.
And by the way why are you so defensive? You seem really angry at me right now for no reason.

JEDean89
03-11-2013, 12:06 AM
Because one of my favorite players goes down and you call him and his team mentally weak, which seems to me like you are angry. You insult a team that I have grown up loving, despite the constant heartbreak. In fact your entire avatar on psd is based on you for some reason being furious at the knicks and trolling their entire fanbase. I love my two teams and hate it when fans forget that these stars are humans, and that a guy like Amare Stoudemire has been through more injuries in his career than most players would experience if they played for 20 years. Yet still he perserveres, coming back from his latest injury to post a PER of 22 on 58% shooting after half the Knicks fans said he was done and he goes down again and you call him mentally.

Now let me explain to you how things work in life, if you insult something or someone that people care about, they will get defensive and argue back. The fact that you have trolled these forums for over 2 years and still don't grasp these basic concepts is shocking. But hey man, keep on being suprised that people react to your bashing, perhaps one day you'll learn.

Sandman
03-11-2013, 12:10 AM
Knicks fans will always have a soft spot for STAT... to me he is still the face of that franchise. This guy has been all class and a true professional since he got here. Its unfortunate that he has been so unlucky with his health during his career, he could have been a special player. He's fought back through worse and he will be back again...

https://twitter.com/Amareisreal/status/310919098794119171/photo/1
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0d/USCG_AFFF.JPG/220px-USCG_AFFF.JPG

DoMeFavors
03-11-2013, 12:11 AM
Because one of my favorite players goes down and you call him and his team mentally weak, which seems to me like you are angry. You insult a team that I have grown up loving, despite the constant heartbreak. In fact your entire avatar on psd is based on you for some reason being furious at the knicks and trolling their entire fanbase. I love my two teams and hate it when fans forget that these stars are humans, and that a guy like Amare Stoudemire has been through more injuries in his career than most players would experience if they played for 20 years. Yet still he perserveres, coming back from his latest injury to post a PER of 22 on 58% shooting after half the Knicks fans said he was done and he goes down again and you call him mentally.

Now let me explain to you how things work in life, if you insult something or someone that people care about, they will get defensive and argue back. The fact that you have trolled these forums for over 2 years and still don't grasp these basic concepts is shocking. But hey man, keep on being suprised that people react to your bashing, perhaps one day you'll learn.

Well im sorry if I offended you, I see that you are passionate about your sports team. I respect that. But I never insulted you as a person you need to learn to seperate personal attacks and sports. I dont think it is appropriate to insult me like that.
I just said im not sure a team without its best players and 2 leaders can deal with the pressure of keeping their playoff spot when they normally lean on their stars.

JEDean89
03-11-2013, 12:27 AM
Well im sorry if I offended you, I see that you are passionate about your sports team. I respect that. But I never insulted you as a person you need to learn to seperate personal attacks and sports. I dont think it is appropriate to insult me like that.
I just said im not sure a team without its best players and 2 leaders can deal with the pressure of keeping their playoff spot when they normally lean on their stars.

if it was just the once domefavors i wouldn't insult you but it is clear that you are attacking the knicks fanbase on psd and not just the team when you make your comments. You constantly troll the forums, just now having said on the playoff seeding thread that you believe the knicks will get bounced in the first. It is not your logic or reason that makes you say these things, you are trying to piss off the psd users and bait them into conversations like this. I have never read a positive comment from you about the knicks and usually they are far more negative than this last comment. In fact I think the psd fanbase would like the nets a lot more if it weren't for you, i certainly would. I get that the mods let you do this, why is beyond me, but it is clear you do it for some reason and have no intention of stopping.

JEDean89
03-11-2013, 12:27 AM
Well im sorry if I offended you, I see that you are passionate about your sports team. I respect that. But I never insulted you as a person you need to learn to seperate personal attacks and sports. I dont think it is appropriate to insult me like that.
I just said im not sure a team without its best players and 2 leaders can deal with the pressure of keeping their playoff spot when they normally lean on their stars.

this is not what you just said.

DoMeFavors
03-11-2013, 12:49 AM
if it was just the once domefavors i wouldn't insult you but it is clear that you are attacking the knicks fanbase on psd and not just the team when you make your comments. You constantly troll the forums, just now having said on the playoff seeding thread that you believe the knicks will get bounced in the first. It is not your logic or reason that makes you say these things, you are trying to piss off the psd users and bait them into conversations like this. I have never read a positive comment from you about the knicks and usually they are far more negative than this last comment. In fact I think the psd fanbase would like the nets a lot more if it weren't for you, i certainly would. I get that the mods let you do this, why is beyond me, but it is clear you do it for some reason and have no intention of stopping.

I am not trying to bait anyone, I say positive things all the time about the Knicks. You just get offended every single time I write something you dont want to hear about your team. Yeah I think the Knicks will get bounced im not hating its just a feeling I have based on past history of the Knicks. 1st round exits the past 2 years and Melo who has a history of failure in the post season.

NYCkid12
03-11-2013, 12:41 PM
Knicks fans will always have a soft spot for STAT... to me he is still the face of that franchise. This guy has been all class and a true professional since he got here. Its unfortunate that he has been so unlucky with his health during his career, he could have been a special player. He's fought back through worse and he will be back again...

https://twitter.com/Amareisreal/status/310919098794119171/photo/1

I'm not a Knicks or Nets fan so I have no attachment to either team, but I have to say objectively this couldn't be further from the truth

I mean let's just look at the history of this guy.....

First playoff series as a Knick, he gets hurt trying to do a trick dunk in pregame

Second playoff series as a Knick, punches a fire extinguisher after a loss, and cuts his hand causing him to miss time

In the offseason, a fan tweeted something to the effect of "You better come back strong this season" and his answer was "I don't have to do anything (enter gay slur)"

This season, he says "No one ever taught me defense" Really??

This is not what I want the face of my franchise doing/saying...I personally think he's a clown