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SLY WILLIAMS
03-03-2013, 01:14 PM
March 3, 2013 Sabres at Rangers 7:30 PM MSG
March 5, 2013 Flyers at Rangers 7:30 PM NBCSN, MSG
March 7, 2013 Rangers at Islanders 7:00 PM MSG
March 8, 2013 Senators at Rangers 7:00 PM MSG
March 10, 2013 Rangers at Capitals 12:30 PM NBC
March 12, 2013 Rangers at Sabres 7:00 PM MSG
March 14, 2013 Rangers at Jets 8:00 PM MSG
March 16, 2013 Rangers at Penguins 1:00 PM NHLN-US, MSG
March 18, 2013 Hurricanes at Rangers 7:00 PM MSG
March 19, 2013 Rangers at Devils 7:00 PM MSG
March 21, 2013 Panthers at Rangers 7:00 PM MSG
March 24, 2013 Capitals at Rangers 7:00 PM NBCSN
March 26, 2013 Rangers at Flyers 7:30 PM NBCSN, MSG
March 28, 2013 Rangers at Senators 7:30 PM MSG
March 30, 2013 Rangers at Canadiens 7:00 PM NHLN-US, MSG

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SLY WILLIAMS
03-03-2013, 01:20 PM
Thoughts on J.T. Miller, Marian Gaborik

Updated: Mar 02, 2013 03:27 PM
By Steve Zipay
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Marian Gaborik will remain a third-line wing for the moment.

Gaborik, a first or second-liner throughout his career, skated on the right of Brian Boyle and J.T. Miller at practice. Coach John Tortorella said he was "happy with the lines from the last game", and clearly likes Miller's potential.

Gaborik. along with Richards, was on the point during some five-forward drills, under the watchful eye of Torts and assistant Mike Sullivan. Derek Stepan was on the left wall, Rich Nash lower on the right side and Ryan Callahan, who leads the team in power play goals, in front.

Miller, 19, told me that he has passed up shots and wants to shoot more. He had an assist and four shots in 12:33 against Tampa.

I thought he dipped but the past couple of games he has a good inner confidence about himself to get to the next level, Tortorella said. He played a really good game. It wasnt without mistakes. Hes into it, he wants to stay. Hes going to make that decision for us, with his play. Asked about coaching the youngster, Torts said: Its an hourly process with him. Hes an interesting one to me in the right way. I like the kid, I like how he presents himself."

Note: Buffalo's leading scorer, Thomas Vanek, was scratched with some type of injury today against the Devils. Whether he'll dress against the Rangers Sunday is unclear. http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo;jsessionid=C3706D8E1D7C3346C137.3280?site=n ewsday&view=sports_blogs_item&feed:a=newsday_5min&feed:c=sports_blogs&feed:i=1.4739966

metswon69
03-03-2013, 01:49 PM
This is obviously a big month for the Rangers with a lot of road games against quality competition.

This is make or break time with 29 games to go.

Let's go Rangers!!!

SLY WILLIAMS
03-03-2013, 01:53 PM
This is obviously a big month for the Rangers with a lot of road games against quality competition.

This is make or break time with 29 games to go.

Let's go Rangers!!!


You are right. In a short season they can not waste too much time. I do not think the playoff seeding will be as much of a success indicator as in a full season. I think its much more important to be hot and healthy going in to the playoffs than our playoff seeding.

metswon69
03-03-2013, 03:14 PM
You are right. In a short season they can not waste too much time. I do not think the playoff seeding will be as much of a success indicator as in a full season. I think its much more important to be hot and healthy going in to the playoffs than our playoff seeding.

I don't either but 15 games this month is more than half their remaining schedule.

They have to at very least keep pace with all the teams ahead of them, and honestly i would like to see more than that.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-03-2013, 04:44 PM
I agree with you. This month could be the season.

Off topic: 4 on 4 hockey in OT is so much more exciting than 5 on 5. I used to love 5 on 5 play but there is so little room for creativity now.

MJL80
03-03-2013, 06:11 PM
I agree with you. This month could be the season.

Off topic: 4 on 4 hockey in OT is so much more exciting than 5 on 5. I used to love 5 on 5 play but there is so little room for creativity now.

Couldn't agree more! I actually wish they'd do away with the shootout and play 4 on 4 instead until someone scores.

MJL80
03-03-2013, 06:15 PM
Is Miller in net for Buffalo tonight? I know he played yesterday. He kills us at home.... 5-0-1 with a 1.64 GAA in his last 6 games at MSG

IAmARanger18
03-03-2013, 06:25 PM
We will keep the momentum going tonight against Buffalo behind 2 good performances from Nash and Callahan.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-03-2013, 07:26 PM
Couldn't agree more! I actually wish they'd do away with the shootout and play 4 on 4 instead until someone scores.

I like 4 on 4 and the shootout. I like watching players skate and stick handle. When Detroit was 1-1 today with Chicago I was rooting for OT. I wish we could see guys like Datsyuk and Kane show their skills in more open ice.

NYR_NYJ
03-03-2013, 08:53 PM
Anyone else with Directv not getting the game on MSG ?

fingerbang
03-03-2013, 08:59 PM
****ing Weber is down injured and the Rangers don't go after the space that he can't cover

SLY WILLIAMS
03-03-2013, 09:01 PM
Because it is Buffalo it may be blacked out in certain areas. Have you tried the alternate channels?

IAmARanger18
03-03-2013, 09:13 PM
PP looked much better. Good period.

metswon69
03-03-2013, 09:13 PM
Richards looked pretty good in that first period, its amazing how many of his shots are blocked though.

J4KOP99
03-03-2013, 10:03 PM
If one of our shots actually does make it through, it usually just misses the net anyway so it doesn't really matter haha

metswon69
03-03-2013, 10:05 PM
They are just a boring team offensively..

bsi
03-03-2013, 10:15 PM
Need to load up the top line for the third.

fingerbang
03-03-2013, 10:28 PM
Score a goal

metswon69
03-03-2013, 10:28 PM
Stepan scores..

metswon69
03-03-2013, 10:30 PM
Screw you Buffalo..

fingerbang
03-03-2013, 10:31 PM
Power play explosion.

J4KOP99
03-03-2013, 10:35 PM
Classic ****ing rangers. Unbelievable stupidity

fingerbang
03-03-2013, 10:35 PM
Steve Gretzky with the assist.

J4KOP99
03-03-2013, 10:36 PM
Never get your hopes up with this team. Ever.

fingerbang
03-03-2013, 10:52 PM
That's a really bad penalty.

bsi
03-03-2013, 10:53 PM
Brutal time for that!

fingerbang
03-03-2013, 10:55 PM
Hopefully they're drawing up a good play but I doubt it.

bsi
03-03-2013, 10:57 PM
Be nice to spring Nash out of the box for the break

bsi
03-03-2013, 10:57 PM
Ffs!!!!!

fingerbang
03-03-2013, 11:05 PM
Nash generating shots at both ends of the ice.

metswon69
03-03-2013, 11:26 PM
Good game...

Nash almost putting it in our own net made my heart skip a beat but two very pretty SO goals and we get the win!!

bsi
03-03-2013, 11:47 PM
Nice to get another win...every point counts.

runnermjr1296
03-04-2013, 09:05 AM
I seem to remember kaletta doing something dirty to one of our players a couple of years back?? Anyone else remember that? On a very positive note I was at Church and missed the first 2 periods,saw a great 3rd,terrific OT and who didn't enjoy the shootout? Also from what i understand the first 2 were a snoozer?

MJL80
03-04-2013, 09:49 AM
I love Richards and it would've sucked if he was to have gotten seriously hurt by that hit (hate to see anyone get hurt) but the PP looked awesome while he was in the locker nd it looked crappy when he returned.

I know some of it had to do with a rejuvenated ranger team from the hit, but I'm just saying

metswon69
03-04-2013, 10:35 AM
Its amazing, i am looking on NHL.com about the hit last night and you have all these Devils, Sabres, Penguins, and Flyers fans saying it was a dive...

These are some of the comments


Brad Richards "embellishment" of the Pat Kaleta hit represents his best performance this season. Watching that, you figure he's done for the season. But no - look - he's back before the penalty is over. Two goals were the tonic he needed.


I wonder how Tortorella feels about his own player diving?! Must be the most arrogant and classless organization in NHL eh John? LOL what a tool....


I just saw a replay of the so called hit on Richards, it was just a little push. Richards should have got a diving penalty. the punk acted like he was hit so bad but he was able to come back just a few mins later. That was one of the worst calls this year. If Kaleta gets even a 1 game suspension form this that is garbage. It was not even a boarding call it was a tiny push, then a great acting job to draw a call when his team was down by 2.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


My response:
Yeah you guys are right, Richards clearly went head first into the boards on purpose in the risk of taking further injury to his head, neck, and back..

Give me a break!!!

nyr2002nyr
03-04-2013, 11:28 AM
I agree with you. This month could be the season.

Off topic: 4 on 4 hockey in OT is so much more exciting than 5 on 5. I used to love 5 on 5 play but there is so little room for creativity now.

Players are so much bigger and faster then years ago they should use Olympic ice sizes it would be awesome

nyr2002nyr
03-04-2013, 11:42 AM
Lots of Sabres fan *****ing that Hags hit on Ennis was just as bad. I didnt see it how bad was it?

bsi
03-04-2013, 12:13 PM
Players are so much bigger and faster then years ago they should use Olympic ice sizes it would be awesome

I'm not sold on the Olympic sized ice but I agree that the NHL needs to make its rinks wider, not sure about 13 feet wider though. I'd see it as more of a 6 foot increase to make up for the obvious size and speed difference. 6 feet doesn't sound like much but that would add 1200 square feet of extra ice, the floor size of a bungalow. I've had friends who played on olympic ice after the NHL and they said it was actually easier to defend against because you could just leave the guy outside and he was so far away from the net he couldn't generate a decent shot from out there if he wanted too. It also took away from D men hitting along the walls as they were more prone to just let the forward coast around the outside and take away the middle. Like I said though, they need a little more room but I don't think Olympic is the way to go.

metswon69
03-04-2013, 12:13 PM
Lots of Sabres fan *****ing that Hags hit on Ennis was just as bad. I didnt see it how bad was it?

It was Girardi from what i remember in the OT period.

It wasn't a clean hit but it wasn't nearly as bad as Kaletas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ujeSlJKLIzs#!

bsi
03-04-2013, 12:46 PM
Girardi's hit was Ennis' fault really the two were lined up shoulder to shoulder and looked like they were going to hit each other before the boards but Ennis turned last second for whatever reason.

nyr2002nyr
03-04-2013, 01:17 PM
It was Girardi from what i remember in the OT period.

It wasn't a clean hit but it wasn't nearly as bad as Kaletas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ujeSlJKLIzs#!


Thanks for the link!

Yeah its hard to stop when you are going full speed and they turn. Richards was worse it wasnt a hard shove it looked more like he was caught off guard

metswon69
03-04-2013, 01:23 PM
Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN

#NYR No Brad Richards on the ice today. Not surprising. Seemed to still be in a considerable amount of pain after game last night

Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord

Arron Asham (back spasms) continues to remain off ice for the Rangers.

metswon69
03-04-2013, 01:27 PM
John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl

Sabres Patrick Kaleta says he feels like "a bag of garbage" for putting team in short-handed situation that led to two Rangers goals

Maybe you should feel about the hit period Pat..

metswon69
03-04-2013, 06:43 PM
Kaleta was suspended 5 games..

oak2455
03-04-2013, 06:58 PM
Kaleta was suspended 5 games..
guess it wasnt a bad hit :facepalm: Richards couldve really been hurt....happy he's out for five games:clap:

metswon69
03-04-2013, 07:04 PM
guess it wasnt a bad hit :facepalm: Richards couldve really been hurt....happy he's out for five games:clap:

It involves a stupid rule that if its discipline via phone and not face to face with Brendan Shanahan that he can only get a maximum of 5 games.

It sounds dumb even typing it :D

bsi
03-04-2013, 07:05 PM
It involves a stupid rule that if its discipline via phone and not face to face with Brian Shanahan that he can only get a maximum of 5 games.

It sounds dumb even typing it :D

In a 82 game season though this is like a 9 or 10 game suspension, so I could see 5 games being realistic.

metswon69
03-04-2013, 07:13 PM
In a 82 game season though this is like a 9 or 10 game suspension, so I could see 5 games being realistic.

That's true...

It did get one more game than Zolnierczyk's hit did.

oak2455
03-04-2013, 07:47 PM
it involves a stupid rule that if its discipline via phone and not face to face with brian shanahan that he can only get a maximum of 5 games.

it sounds dumb even typing it :d

it really does

metswon69
03-04-2013, 11:57 PM
Said Brian Shanahan :facepalm:

Damn Iphone autocorrect..

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 12:12 AM
That's a lot of games.

runnermjr1296
03-05-2013, 10:10 AM
i realize this is not a Devils thread but just had to ask this question,do you think they miss Martin Broduer much?

metswon69
03-05-2013, 10:58 AM
I don't get at almost 41 years old how he still plays so well.

I know the neutral zone trap benefited him all those years but it tires me out talking about Brodeur.

Retire already!!!

NYR_NYJ
03-05-2013, 11:42 AM
2 people I can't wait to see retire, Tom Brady and Marty Brodeur

metswon69
03-05-2013, 01:01 PM
Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord

Per #AHL web site, #NYR have recalled ex-#Islander Micheal Haley from #CTWhale. Chances of Richards being out growing.

Ugh but i guess expected.

Hopefully something changes by game time.

nyr2002nyr
03-05-2013, 01:12 PM
i realize this is not a Devils thread but just had to ask this question,do you think they miss Martin Broduer much?

After watching last nights game YES

nyr2002nyr
03-05-2013, 01:13 PM
Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord


Ugh but i guess expected.

Hopefully something changes by game time.

I saw he skated with the team this AM i hope he can go

oak2455
03-05-2013, 01:41 PM
Brad Richards on the ice for morning skate
Bergen Record "In a good sign for Brad Richards’ availability for tonight’s game against the Flyers, beyond the fact that the Rangers did not recall an extra forward from Connecticut (AHL), the center is on the ice for yet another very well-attended morning optional skate......

1h
Steve Zipay @stevezipay
Brad Richards skating this morning in regular jersey
Twitter

SLY WILLIAMS
03-05-2013, 01:45 PM
Brad Richards on the ice for morning skate
Bergen Record "In a good sign for Brad Richards’ availability for tonight’s game against the Flyers, beyond the fact that the Rangers did not recall an extra forward from Connecticut (AHL), the center is on the ice for yet another very well-attended morning optional skate......

1h
Steve Zipay @stevezipay
Brad Richards skating this morning in regular jersey
Twitter


That is good news. Thanks for letting us know. :)

J4KOP99
03-05-2013, 01:53 PM
great news about richie. big game tonight

bsi
03-05-2013, 02:02 PM
Not so fast boys....Richards didn't do a full practice and Michael Haley was called up so he may not be in the lineup after all.

IAmARanger18
03-05-2013, 02:17 PM
Looks like Richie will be out tonight :( not good.

metswon69
03-05-2013, 05:24 PM
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

I'm told Brad Richards is very stiff and sore and most definitely won't play tonight.

bsi
03-05-2013, 06:52 PM
If you're wondering Haley will be wearing #32.

J4KOP99
03-05-2013, 09:13 PM
Lets just take as many penalties as possible and see what happens

metswon69
03-05-2013, 09:14 PM
I am seriously tired of seeing Bickel..

metswon69
03-05-2013, 09:18 PM
Callahan with the goal to tie :D

Now stay out of the ****ing box..

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 09:18 PM
Second time Cally's pulled that move this year.

bsi
03-05-2013, 09:19 PM
Callahan dominating. I actually like that line. I think having Gaborik with him opens up some room for him.

bsi
03-05-2013, 10:26 PM
What happened? They just shut'er down for the 2nd period, jeez.

bsi
03-05-2013, 10:37 PM
Nash!!

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 10:38 PM
Nash had been hanging a lot tonight and it worked out.

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 10:39 PM
Oh man I hope Marc's alright.

J4KOP99
03-05-2013, 10:40 PM
damn, poor staal. please don't have another concussion man. What a shot to the eye

J4KOP99
03-05-2013, 10:40 PM
give us one gabby

nyr2002nyr
03-05-2013, 10:42 PM
It hit flush on the slow mo replay without touching the helmet

nyr2002nyr
03-05-2013, 10:50 PM
Nash!!!

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 10:50 PM
Ricky Nash.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-05-2013, 10:51 PM
Nash seems to be on the score sheet every game lately. He is da man!

J4KOP99
03-05-2013, 10:52 PM
unbelievable goal

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 10:52 PM
Someone kick Hartnell in the face.

Swift n Sil3nt
03-05-2013, 10:54 PM
R. Ouch Staal
A. Great Effort by Callahan in the 1st
N. Nash coming through with two big 3rd period goals
G. Penalty kill has looked out of place tonight
E. Power play has some good opportunities, would like to see more aggression
R. Team operates better without Richards than we do without Nash, bigger threat
S. JT Miller has some real talent. Excited to see him, Kreider, and Hagelin fly

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 11:04 PM
Now Hartnell throws a punch. :laugh2:

nyr2002nyr
03-05-2013, 11:06 PM
Someone kick Hartnell in the face.

Twice please

bsi
03-05-2013, 11:10 PM
Big win...here we go.

J4KOP99
03-05-2013, 11:10 PM
Great ****ing night. Best win of the year. Nash and Cally are on a mission. Please be Ok Marc, you don't deserve to deal with another head injury.

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 11:10 PM
There's some confidence for the team.

metswon69
03-05-2013, 11:15 PM
Great win...

I hope Staal is alright.

Any chance we see McIlrath if he isn't?

I know he needs more seasoning but maybe its an option.

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 11:16 PM
A win like that makes me wanna go troll the Flyers forum. :laugh2:

fingerbang
03-05-2013, 11:18 PM
Great win...

I hope Staal is alright.

Any chance we see McIlrath if he isn't?

I know he needs more seasoning but maybe its an option.

Doubt it but they haven't been conservative with calling up young players over the past 2 years.

NYR_NYJ
03-05-2013, 11:18 PM
Great game.
Gabby and Richards start to step it up and they could really start rolling.

That Staal injury was scary.

metswon69
03-05-2013, 11:19 PM
This team just needs another piece (preferably a defenseman or a center)

You better be on the phone Glen!!

Light up the cigar :D

SLY WILLIAMS
03-05-2013, 11:22 PM
Dylan is not ready yet but he is getting there from what I have seen/read. Give him some time. He has barely had a cup of coffee yet in the AHL after coming off a 2nd knee injury. I look forward when he is a Ranger for sure. :)

metswon69
03-05-2013, 11:23 PM
Yeah i just don't have any interest in seeing more of Stu Bickel..

SLY WILLIAMS
03-05-2013, 11:23 PM
A win like that makes me wanna go troll the Flyers forum. :laugh2:

I dislike the Flyers as much as anyone but please let them wallow in their own loss without help. :)

bsi
03-05-2013, 11:36 PM
Any word on Staal? That looked like it hit him right in the eye, might not be good news.

NYR_NYJ
03-05-2013, 11:40 PM
I hope Staal doesn't have any relapses with the concussion. He's been playing great.

bsi
03-05-2013, 11:46 PM
Still need another D man, maybe 2. If Staal is out for any length of time we'll be looking at having Gilroy or Bickel replace him and I'm not all that comfortable with either, more comfortable with Gilroy than Bickel though just based on agility.

Also I'm not sure why Torts hasn't used Callahan on the LW instead of Gaborik given that he's a right handed shot and I always found that shooting from your offwing is a lot easier for quick shots. Moving Gaborik to LW and leaving Callahan on the RW just leaves two guys that are facing the wrong way for the one timer and Callahan looked more natural on that side when he scored his second, he was able to create room by faking the pass to Gaborik. Just an observation.

bsi
03-05-2013, 11:55 PM
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/4iicXH4YmuoMs76E8rxNhA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/STALALALA.jpg

That doesn't look good.

metswon69
03-05-2013, 11:58 PM
I'm not a doctor but if i had to speculate it might be a fractured orbital bone..

Let's hope its just a bad bruise or a bad cut above the eye.

IAmARanger18
03-06-2013, 01:41 PM
Hearing not a career ending injury but he will be out indefinitely. Not good.

ShadyOne
03-06-2013, 11:01 PM
not going to dwell on Staal, hope it isn't as bad as I'm thinking...

On the bright side, I knew Nash was good, but honestly, I wasn't prepared for this. Even in all the games he doesn't score, he is good for a few one-on-several highlight worthy moves. As good with the puck as pretty much anyone else in the league, in fact noone comes to mind with the arsenal of spin moves, dekes, and stick handling he shows. And then throw in the size.

Have a feeling he is going to be huge here. Can tell he loves it, hopefully he breaks out and moves up into the elite class he belongs.

metswon69
03-07-2013, 12:56 PM
Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN

#NYR No Brad Richards on the ice for morning skate

Guess no Richards tonight.

metswon69
03-07-2013, 12:59 PM
Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord

Looks like #NYR lines are the same: Hagelin-Stepan-Nash, Gaborik-Miller-Callahan, Pyatt-Boyle-Powe, Haley-Halpern-Bickel

IAmARanger18
03-07-2013, 02:47 PM
Great now I gotta sit at the Coliseum and watch Bickel and Haley float around and be useless, we better smack the Isles tonight, I want a 5-1 victory.

metswon69
03-07-2013, 02:52 PM
The Rangers have to stay out of the box tonight.

The Isles are 3rd in the league in PPG..

I am talking to you Bickel and Haley :mad:

bsi
03-07-2013, 03:05 PM
If we are looking at trades of the minor sort, I think we should look at Columbus Blue Jacket Derek Dorsett. He's a guy that can fill the enforcer role and play hockey as well. Not sure that Columbus would ever part with him but he's the guy I want, atleast as a minor trade. Unrealistically I'd want a goal scorer but with our cap situation and all I think Dorsett would be a great addition along the mold of a Prust style player.

Beltrans Mole
03-07-2013, 03:17 PM
Rangers win 4-3. Nash nets another one tonight.

metswon69
03-07-2013, 08:37 PM
I ****ing hate the Islanders lol..

NYR_NYJ
03-07-2013, 09:04 PM
That motherfocker is fast

bsi
03-07-2013, 09:08 PM
Hamrlik has looked good so far for what he's played. We need more jump from our #2 line though.
Also....does anyone get the idea that Gaborik is not 100%, he doesn't have that speed he's always had and he's a little more timid in the corners when he's up against other players.

metswon69
03-07-2013, 09:11 PM
Miller looks far more impressive at center than wing.

bsi
03-07-2013, 09:12 PM
Gaborik looked stronger on that last shift though.

nyr2002nyr
03-07-2013, 09:33 PM
What a sad excuse for a pp that was

bsi
03-07-2013, 09:35 PM
Brutal PP....need our best players to be our best players and they really haven't been.

bsi
03-07-2013, 09:58 PM
Man Nash is good, but he can't do it all on his own.

metswon69
03-07-2013, 10:20 PM
I like how Torts was rotating two lines because he knows those are the only two lines that can score lol.

nyr2002nyr
03-07-2013, 10:29 PM
Sweet 2 points after getting out played for most of the game.

bsi
03-07-2013, 10:32 PM
Gaborik!! Nice to see him shooting and getting rewarded for it.

fingerbang
03-07-2013, 10:32 PM
Firesale!!!!!

metswon69
03-07-2013, 10:35 PM
8 goals in 5 games for Gabs and 0 in the other 17..

But i am happy he finally got on the scoreboard..

J4KOP99
03-07-2013, 10:39 PM
way to get the win... nash comes alive in the 3rd

bsi
03-07-2013, 10:47 PM
8 goals in 5 games for Gabs and 0 in the other 17..

But i am happy he finally got on the scoreboard..

No matter how ya cut it he's still tied for the lead in goal scoring for this team. I'd be more worried about how many guys we have who are 0,1 or 2 for 22. I'll also add that Gaborik leads the team in GWG's.

metswon69
03-07-2013, 11:03 PM
No matter how ya cut it he's still tied for the lead in goal scoring for this team. I'd be more worried about how many guys we have who are 0,1 or 2 for 22. I'll also add that Gaborik leads the team in GWG's.

That's true but i just wish he was more consistent and not as streaky as he has been this season.

Yeah 2 game winners but only 1 powerplay goal this season so far.

I am surprised by his lack of effectiveness with the extra man.

ShadyOne
03-07-2013, 11:05 PM
No matter how ya cut it he's still tied for the lead in goal scoring for this team. I'd be more worried about how many guys we have who are 0,1 or 2 for 22. I'll also add that Gaborik leads the team in GWG's.

Yep..for as bad as it may seem, he still has 8 goals and 16 points in 22 games. Could be much worse. And as we know, that hot streak where he lights it up for 5-6 games might be just around the corner

bsi
03-07-2013, 11:12 PM
That's true but i just wish he was more consistent and not as streaky as he has been this season.

Yeah 2 game winners but only 1 powerplay goal this season so far.

I am surprised by his lack of effectiveness with the extra man.

3 game winners including tonight and it should be 2 powerplay goals with tonights.

bsi
03-07-2013, 11:16 PM
Yep..for as bad as it may seem, he still has 8 goals and 16 points in 22 games. Could be much worse. And as we know, that hot streak where he lights it up for 5-6 games might be just around the corner

We really need some sort of scoring threat on the 3rd line. Hopefully Kreider can keep getting better in the AHL and him and Miller can join up with maybe Boyle for a 3rd line with production. In hindsight Prust probably wasn't overpaid by MTL, I think the team underestimated his worth on the 3rd line.

fingerbang
03-07-2013, 11:41 PM
We really need some sort of scoring threat on the 3rd line. Hopefully Kreider can keep getting better in the AHL and him and Miller can join up with maybe Boyle for a 3rd line with production. In hindsight Prust probably wasn't overpaid by MTL, I think the team underestimated his worth on the 3rd line.

We have no third line which is a problem right now. Torts was rolling lines 1,2, and 4 in the third. :laugh2:

oak2455
03-08-2013, 12:09 AM
We have no third line which is a problem right now. Torts was rolling lines 1,2, and 4 in the third. :laugh2:

I can't remember ever seeing that in all my years

metswon69
03-08-2013, 12:18 AM
3 game winners including tonight and it should be 2 powerplay goals with tonights.

Hockey Reference says he has 4 GWG including the one tonight (which they haven't listed) but that's only his first PP goal this season (which they also haven't listed yet)

But i heard it on the broadcast too about the one powerplay goal.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-08-2013, 02:21 PM
way to get the win... nash comes alive in the 3rd


We have no third line which is a problem right now. Torts was rolling lines 1,2, and 4 in the third. :laugh2:


I can't remember ever seeing that in all my years

Can we play Rick Nash on all three lines? So glad we traded for him. Good job Slats!!!

metswon69
03-08-2013, 04:46 PM
Going to the game tonight but i am guessing Biron is going to be in net with the back to backs..

:(

The Senators have some really good goaltending even without Anderson, let's hope we can score tonight and keep the winning streak alive.

fingerbang
03-08-2013, 05:31 PM
Well you don't have to see Craig Anderson so we'll probably score a few.

J4KOP99
03-08-2013, 08:27 PM
Glad to see gabby is right back where he was before the ot winner

J4KOP99
03-08-2013, 08:30 PM
Ottawa continues their dominance against us... I don't get it

fingerbang
03-08-2013, 08:30 PM
Ricky Nash.

J4KOP99
03-08-2013, 08:34 PM
"Enough is enough" -Rick Nash

metswon69
03-08-2013, 09:55 PM
Good game so far..

Was surprised to see Hank in there when i got here tonight and i don't know whats with the ice that the puck is bouncing around so much.

Let's Go Rangers!!!

fingerbang
03-08-2013, 10:29 PM
Ottawa in straight goon mode. Really playing like a bunch of *******s.

J4KOP99
03-08-2013, 10:33 PM
You can just see that our guys are dead tired

J4KOP99
03-08-2013, 10:34 PM
It's the dump and chase rangers now. No one has energy

J4KOP99
03-08-2013, 10:38 PM
Lol this has turned into a disaster. We can't even get it out of our zone

J4KOP99
03-08-2013, 10:42 PM
This one hurts. Just had to get it into overtime and get 1 pt

metswon69
03-08-2013, 11:00 PM
Leaving the Garden now.

What a *****

We can't beat Ottawa at home in the regular season for anything.

oak2455
03-08-2013, 11:49 PM
Leaving the Garden now.

What a *****

We can't beat Ottawa at home in the regular season for anything.
its ridiculous and weird

bsi
03-08-2013, 11:56 PM
This team is not in game shape...time for laps and suicides.

oak2455
03-09-2013, 12:03 AM
This team is not in game shape...time for laps and suicides.

back to backs are a killer this year for most teams....but I agree they looked sluggish at some spots tonight

SLY WILLIAMS
03-09-2013, 12:11 AM
Nash continues to produce. Nice to see Brad get on the score sheet. Hags also got a point. Bring back Zooks! :)

bsi
03-09-2013, 12:21 AM
We have enough talent they just to get on their horses. Hamrlik is the only one who gets a pass for being out of shape. Ofcourse Hagelin, Nash and Girardi get a pass cus they are actually in shape. The rest not so much, though Richards has looked better.

J4KOP99
03-09-2013, 12:39 AM
whoever said gaborik is injured must be right... something is wrong.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-09-2013, 02:05 AM
whoever said gaborik is injured must be right... something is wrong.

Do you see something specific (like a shoulder) bothering him or you just get that feeling by his overall play?

SLY WILLIAMS
03-09-2013, 11:10 AM
I'm looking forward to the national TV game on Sunday afternoon. It is about time!!! :)

SLY WILLIAMS
03-09-2013, 11:22 AM
14) So I’m at one of the concession stands and the couple in front of me orders large Sprites with their meals, and are told – I swear to God – they can’t have large Sprites. Why not? “Mayor Bloomberg’s law.” Holy mackerel. I’ve read and heard about this, but I didn’t think it was actually happening and being enforced. And the large soda cups really aren’t all that large. The end of the world.
This made me laugh a bit. With all the bad things in the world Bloomy really made large soda a crime? I can see somebody in Rikers...He buddy what you in for? They say I sold a large Sprite but I was framed. I'm a pot dealer not a soda dealer. I swear. LOL :)

bsi
03-09-2013, 02:14 PM
Do you see something specific (like a shoulder) bothering him or you just get that feeling by his overall play?

I was the one who said it, he just doesn't have his typical speed, he's really no faster than Stepan right now. Something is wrong if you asked me. Hagelin is the only one on this team that should be beating Gaborik to the puck and that should be an even race at that and he's putting the brakes on when he gets to the corners, something he doesn't do unless he's hurt. He doesn't have his jump whether he's got some sort of issue or what's going on with him I think there's an issue. I'm starting to think that his demotion to the 3rd line a few nights ago was to give him a rest more than a benching.

bsi
03-09-2013, 02:26 PM
Took this from TSN tradecenter. Could be just the thing we need eh Sly? I'm interested to see if Zuccarello has improved and if so how much? Adding some offense to this team really couldn't hurt at all and again( like the Hamrlik deal) we don't have to give anything up to acquire it so it's a win win.

"Zuccarello heading back?

Now that Mats Zuccarello's KHL season is over, he may be heading back to the New York Rangers. According to a report in the Bergen Record, Zuccarello is intrigued by a potential return, but isn't sure if it will happen."

bsi
03-09-2013, 02:37 PM
Also....since I'm on a bit of a rant haha. I'm wondering why Michael Haley hasn't fought anyone yet? I mean it's been three games kid, if you wanna prove yourself get into something. My problem here is that we have no viable fighter over Bickel right now, I don't know that Haley can fill that role along with Asham when he gets back but I do know that he's a better player on the ice than Bickel as a forward and right now he's not showing us the aspect of his game that would earn him a roster spot over Bickel when Asham returns. I really think Haley could be useful as a Steve Ott or Jordan Tootoo type of player with less scoring ability ofcourse but he's an agitating guy who plays hard and hits every shift. Bickel to me should only be in the lineup when Asham isn't and I'm worried that maybe having Bickel around kind of impacts what we do with regards to another forward ie Zuccarello.

Looking back we really lost a lot of hitting in our lineup from last year. Prust, Dubinsky, Fedotenko, and even Anisimov were all people that hunted pucks down and made the D pay. We really didn't replace that grittyness.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-09-2013, 03:30 PM
Took this from TSN tradecenter. Could be just the thing we need eh Sly? I'm interested to see if Zuccarello has improved and if so how much? Adding some offense to this team really couldn't hurt at all and again( like the Hamrlik deal) we don't have to give anything up to acquire it so it's a win win.

"Zuccarello heading back?

Now that Mats Zuccarello's KHL season is over, he may be heading back to the New York Rangers. According to a report in the Bergen Record, Zuccarello is intrigued by a potential return, but isn't sure if it will happen."

BSI you know I'm all for Zooks coming back. That along with Nash would make my season. I think it is safe to say Zooks would produce more than 6-10 guys that have played forward this season. My fear is that the KHL contract may hamper things. Zooks says it has to be a one way NHL contract which I understand. This is a business. He has to make a legit salary which he will not in the AHL.

I also saw your Haley post. We need 1-2 fighters that will actually win their fights. I feel like we have 2-3 guys fighting but they are not scaring anyone. Maybe we should have given John Scott 3 minutes a game, lol :)

J4KOP99
03-09-2013, 03:40 PM
Didn't Haley fight last night?

SLY WILLIAMS
03-09-2013, 03:45 PM
Saturday, March 09, 2013
Hamrlik, not in game shape, won’t play tomorrow

A brisk noon practice today for the Rangers sandwiched between last night’s 3-2 loss to the Senators and tomorrow’s early afternoon game at Washington - the Rangers’ opponents, in that order, in the first two rounds of the playoffs last season.

Defenseman Dan Girardi, who played 22:08 against Ottawa, took a day of rest. And Marc Staal (face) and Arron Asham (back) remain out.

Brian Boyle, a healthy scratch last night, was on the fourth line with Stu Bickel back practicing as a defenseman after five straight games as a fourth-line forward. Most likely, either he or Matt Gilroy will be used on the blue line against the Capitals as Roman Hamrlik said he would not be in the lineup against the team that placed him on waivers on Tuesday. The Rangers claimed him on Wednesday.

Hamrlik was a healthy scratch in all but four of the Capitals’ first 21 games and until he made his Rangers’ debut in Thursday’s 2-1 win over another of his former teams, the Islanders, at Nassau Coliseum, the 38-year-old had not played since Feb. 7. That marked a calendar month in between games. Hamrlik logged 15:48 against the Islanders and 7:29 against the Senators.http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/hamrlik_not_in_game_shape_wont_play_tomorrow/

bsi
03-09-2013, 05:42 PM
Didn't Haley fight last night?

I must have missed it...who'd he fight?

IAmARanger18
03-09-2013, 08:26 PM
The way the Isles crushed the Caps today, we need to come out and do the same tomorrow.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 12:50 PM
The way the Isles crushed the Caps today, we need to come out and do the same tomorrow.

Caps showing more energy so far. Bring back Zooks :)

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 12:55 PM
I did not know Poti was still playing. He looks good out there so far.

bsi
03-10-2013, 12:58 PM
Stepan with an awesome goal! He's really turned it on the last 4 or 5 games.

bsi
03-10-2013, 12:59 PM
Sly....is there sound on your feed of the game, for some reason I don't have any.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 01:02 PM
Tomas Kundratek was our draft pick. I forgot he was called up for Caps.

ShadyOne
03-10-2013, 01:03 PM
Stepan is looking good lately..

Been a solid 2-way player from day one, but dare I say he is looking a bit more...dangerous in the offensive zone. Making strong moves, creating chances pretty consistently

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 01:03 PM
Sly....is there sound on your feed of the game, for some reason I don't have any.

I'm watching on TV. Ill get on computer soon and see if I can find you a better feed.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 01:05 PM
Stepan is looking good lately..

Been a solid 2-way player from day one, but dare I say he is looking a bit more...dangerous in the offensive zone. Making strong moves, creating chances pretty consistently

He has been playing better although I think he would admit that goal was a bit lucky.

ShadyOne
03-10-2013, 01:09 PM
Lucky he scored, yeah..still made a strong move, and created a chance though. Even if it doesn't go in, if it went through it likely would have been a goal anyway, had people parked in front..

bsi
03-10-2013, 01:12 PM
I'm watching on TV. Ill get on computer soon and see if I can find you a better feed.

Ya I'm watching on the tv here too but for some reason there's no sound must be a problem with my cable provider I guess. Was wondering if it was an NBC thing.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 01:19 PM
Ya I'm watching on the tv here too but for some reason there's no sound must be a problem with my cable provider I guess. Was wondering if it was an NBC thing.

Sound has been perfect for me on NBC.

bsi
03-10-2013, 01:20 PM
Sound has been perfect for me on NBC.

I'll have to call up Eastlink Cable then haha.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 01:29 PM
I'll have to call up Eastlink Cable then haha.

I'm sure you tried all this but just in case,

1. Check to see if the game is on another channel
2. Change channels and change back to see if sound comes back
3. Turn TV on and off.
4. Punch the TV :)

Sometimes when a channel does not have sound I do that and it comes back.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 01:34 PM
Few quick game notes

1. I'm a Gilroy fan but he looks like a forward playing defense when he skates backwards sometimes.

2. Mcdonah should try to get his shot off a step sooner. He could end up with more goals and assists. His shots often have an opponents stick on his stick.

3. Cally had a nice spinorama in the neutral zone. I love that move but I'm glad he did not get hit while doing it.

4. Bring back Zooks. :)

bsi
03-10-2013, 01:39 PM
I'm sure you tried all this but just in case,

1. Check to see if the game is on another channel
2. Change channels and change back to see if sound comes back
3. Turn TV on and off.
4. Punch the TV :)

Sometimes when a channel does not have sound I do that and it comes back.

Tried all of the above except 4, not really interested in replacing my flatscreen yet, I'll punch it if we don't make the playoffs hahaha.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 01:43 PM
LOL I only punch other peoples TVs not my own. :)

bsi
03-10-2013, 01:49 PM
Holtby losing it hahahhaha....smell ya later!!

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 01:50 PM
Washington now changing goalies. Rangers have 3 goals but some of them have been stoppable.

bsi
03-10-2013, 01:50 PM
See what happens Boyle when you shoot the puck instead of kicking it along the boards!! haha.

nyanks79
03-10-2013, 01:52 PM
Good powerplays as of late. Good to get the goal there.

bsi
03-10-2013, 01:54 PM
They have changed up the PP a lot, I'm liking the play they have there.

NYY09
03-10-2013, 01:57 PM
Nash 22 points in 20 games, and thats after a slow start. Nash = Beast

bsi
03-10-2013, 02:00 PM
Hagelin is a little beast too.

bsi
03-10-2013, 02:01 PM
What an effort from McDonagh to get back and break up that play.

ShadyOne
03-10-2013, 02:03 PM
Hagelin is a little beast too.

Definitely. Making things happen. Seems he is looking for his shot more, and shooting it better.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 02:14 PM
Despite the score it feels like something is missing right now. I can not put my finger on it.

NYY09
03-10-2013, 02:15 PM
Hagelin is a little beast too.

The Nash effect, but yes, Hagelin has been very good.

bsi
03-10-2013, 02:15 PM
Definitely. Making things happen. Seems he is looking for his shot more, and shooting it better.

Ya he's really shooting more this year, and he is hard to track down behind the net.

bsi
03-10-2013, 02:16 PM
Despite the score it feels like something is missing right now. I can not put my finger on it.

Staal

NYY09
03-10-2013, 02:17 PM
Despite the score it feels like something is missing right now. I can not put my finger on it.

There are lapses. It seems at times they are running around too much. IMHO

bsi
03-10-2013, 02:28 PM
There are lapses. It seems at times they are running around too much. IMHO

With Staal out and Hamrlik not dressed we're still short D. Having said that I'd like Eminger to be our 6th D instead of Stralman, I know Stralman is more offensively gifted but Eminger is more Physical

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 02:28 PM
Staal
He would help for sure but it is not about any individual player.

There are lapses. It seems at times they are running around too much. IMHO
I'd like to see more cohesion. I understand new players and no camp but if the Hawks can do what they did we should have more team cohesion at this point. I see guys giving individual efforts but I'd like to see some of the cohesion I saw the previous two seasons.

bsi
03-10-2013, 02:34 PM
He would help for sure but it is not about any individual player.

I'd like to see more cohesion. I understand new players and no camp but if the Hawks can do what they did we should have more team cohesion at this point. I see guys giving individual efforts but I'd like to see some of the cohesion I saw the previous two seasons.

Problem is we really have 4 good D to begin with, when you lose another you're down to three. Pucks don't come out as smooth, breakouts are broken up and it looks like nobody is meshing. I know it's not about one guy but when you're short at a position and you lose a key guy from that position it makes it tougher.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 02:35 PM
Gabs looks fine in bursts but he is taking some plays off once he loses the puck.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 02:37 PM
Problem is we really have 4 good D to begin with, when you lose another you're down to three. Pucks don't come out as smooth, breakouts are broken up and it looks like nobody is meshing. I know it's not about one guy but when you're short at a position and you lose a key guy from that position it makes it tougher.

I'm sure that as well as other things can play a role. The Caps look to be missing something as well. This could be a tie game easy if the Caps had better goaltending today or Biron did not make some good saves. Maybe I'm thinking too much. :)

bsi
03-10-2013, 02:38 PM
Boyle looks better this game

bsi
03-10-2013, 02:39 PM
I'm sure that as well as other things can play a role. The Caps look to be missing something as well. This could be a tie game easy if the Caps had better goaltending today or Biron did not make some good saves. Maybe I'm thinking too much. :)

Ovechkin is a sook...if he has a bad shift or two he's outta the game. He's not the guy he used to be.There was a time it was him and Crosby as the best guys on the ice and now I wouldn't trade Callahan for him.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 02:42 PM
Ovechkin is a sook...if he has a bad shift or two he's outta the game. He's not the guy he used to be.There was a time it was him and Crosby as the best guys on the ice and now I wouldn't trade Callahan for him.

Ovie right now is like Gabs. You can see the flashes but their motors are not running non stop for some reason. Ovie has a lot of miles on him even though he is still in his twenties.

bsi
03-10-2013, 02:44 PM
Ovie right now is like Gabs. You can see the flashes but their motors are not running non stop for some reason. Ovie has a lot of miles on him even though he is still in his twenties.

I personally think Ovie isn't interested in Washington and is making sure he isn't hurt for the Olympics. We'll see a different guy when the Olympics start.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 02:53 PM
I personally think Ovie isn't interested in Washington and is making sure he isn't hurt for the Olympics. We'll see a different guy when the Olympics start.

The Olympic incentive can certainly help. Ovie may also not have the same motor/conditioning that he did as a younger player. We all get old. :)

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 03:02 PM
Good job Marty!!!

Nice to see Brad score again. Nash and Hags playing very well. Good game.

NYY09
03-10-2013, 03:04 PM
Good job Marty!!!

Nice to see Brad score again. Nash and Hags playing very well. Good game.

Nice game indeed. Would be great to get Richards really going, its a different team when he plays like himself.

J4KOP99
03-10-2013, 03:09 PM
Great game for our club. Nash is so much fun to watch.

Respect for Marty, he made some big saves throughout.

J4KOP99
03-10-2013, 03:10 PM
Big game from Boyle too. He badly needed that.

bsi
03-10-2013, 03:33 PM
Big game from Boyle too. He badly needed that.

I agree....but it just goes to show that he can be better and that it's not skill or whatever holding him back he just needs to motivate himself.

bsi
03-10-2013, 03:33 PM
Marty recovered well after the early goal. Nice win for the guys, ahead of the Devils now!!

runnermjr1296
03-10-2013, 04:31 PM
I agree....but it just goes to show that he can be better and that it's not skill or whatever holding him back he just needs to motivate himself.

I thought it was his best game of the year

IAmARanger18
03-10-2013, 05:33 PM
I wonder where all the Stepan and Richards haters are now?

We are finally playing NYR hockey, we're back!

metswon69
03-10-2013, 06:36 PM
I always have cautious optimism because we are still in 7th and that still may be 8th place depending on what the Devils do tonight.

The Rangers need to get 5-6 points on this road trip in total for me to feel more comfortable but today was a very good win.

Yankeefan213
03-10-2013, 10:16 PM
Stepan's been great lately. Hopefully that late goal wakes Richards up and he starts playing like himself again.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-10-2013, 10:37 PM
Stepan's been great lately. Hopefully that late goal wakes Richards up and he starts playing like himself again.

He went so many games without a goal and then got injured so he must have felt a little pressure. Nice to see him get a couple in the last week. His line has been our best.

J4KOP99
03-11-2013, 01:17 PM
They gave our PP goal to callahan? That was clearly nash

metswon69
03-11-2013, 03:04 PM
I guess they said it deflected off Callahan.

I thought it was Nash too.

metswon69
03-11-2013, 03:52 PM
Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord

Ranger Rants: #NYR season-tickets prices to rise on average 4% in 2013-14 http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/ …

You know they upped individual game price this year and with all the revenue James Dolan brings in from the Rangers you would think they would keep ticket prices steady (both season and individual)

Guess that's just not the world we live in anymore.

fingerbang
03-11-2013, 04:40 PM
The only thing worse than a fair weather fan is a fair weather fan with a **** ton of money.

IAmARanger18
03-11-2013, 06:14 PM
Well that sucks but I will still go to individual games.

ShadyOne
03-11-2013, 09:06 PM
Honestly, I have had season tickets, was planning on doing it again. But seeing how the prices continue to rise, I am not interested. And don't plan on going to any Knick or Ranger games unless I go for free from somewhere. Absolutely ridiculous. People paid for ******* product for years, and then all of a sudden the tickets are hot again, and there are ridiculous price increases across the board...

I know them losing my business is not going to do a damn thing, but so be it. I'm fine with watching on TV and drinking a case of beer for the price of 2 beers inside the garden.

bsi
03-11-2013, 09:30 PM
Honestly, I have had season tickets, was planning on doing it again. But seeing how the prices continue to rise, I am not interested. And don't plan on going to any Knick or Ranger games unless I go for free from somewhere. Absolutely ridiculous. People paid for ******* product for years, and then all of a sudden the tickets are hot again, and there are ridiculous price increases across the board...

I know them losing my business is not going to do a damn thing, but so be it. I'm fine with watching on TV and drinking a case of beer for the price of 2 beers inside the garden.

I hate that sports became a wealthy person's game to watch now. The most enthusiastic people at the games are in the cheaper seats and if you look at Toronto's home games the crowd is quiet and the people don't sit in their seats half the game because it's all corporations buying all the good seats up. It's not good for the environment in those places. Unfortunately when you have players making 80 million over 10 years and renovations to the tune of 850 million this is what happens. It sucks.
Funny thing is that it's cheaper for me to fly to Tampa from here, watch the Rangers there and stay for a week in the sun than it is to go to NY for two days from Canada. It's just not worth it for me to go to MSG to watch games, I watch a lot of live Ranger games but I do it in their away rinks.

fingerbang
03-11-2013, 11:38 PM
I hate that sports became a wealthy person's game to watch now. The most enthusiastic people at the games are in the cheaper seats and if you look at Toronto's home games the crowd is quiet and the people don't sit in their seats half the game because it's all corporations buying all the good seats up. It's not good for the environment in those places. Unfortunately when you have players making 80 million over 10 years and renovations to the tune of 850 million this is what happens. It sucks.
Funny thing is that it's cheaper for me to fly to Tampa from here, watch the Rangers there and stay for a week in the sun than it is to go to NY for two days from Canada. It's just not worth it for me to go to MSG to watch games, I watch a lot of live Ranger games but I do it in their away rinks.

:laugh2:

Ticket prices in NY are a joke. During the first 10 minutes of a game the lower bowl is empty because some casual fans with a corporate ticket haven't arrived yet.

fingerbang
03-12-2013, 12:14 PM
No Ryan Miller tonight. Get some goals.

oak2455
03-12-2013, 12:46 PM
:laugh2:

Ticket prices in NY are a joke. During the first 10 minutes of a game the lower bowl is empty because some casual fans with a corporate ticket haven't arrived yet.

look at Yankee stadium its becoming all corporate its sad

SLY WILLIAMS
03-12-2013, 06:10 PM
Its a catch 22. Fans want the players to get huge contracts. Fans are on the players sides often in strikes but like most business's higher costs are just passed on to the customers. I wish players salaries and ticket prices would both come down. When my dad was a kid watching hockey a lot of the players would get off season jobs to pay the bills. The top end salaries in most entertainment industries are crazy and you and I that pay in one way or another.

bsi
03-12-2013, 07:05 PM
I wish Kaleta would be dressed for tonight. Would have loved for someone to punk him out.

bsi
03-12-2013, 09:04 PM
So I guess we aren't getting any PP's tonight...the refs must live across the street....brutal.

bsi
03-12-2013, 09:18 PM
Ugh..

J4KOP99
03-12-2013, 09:19 PM
I'm in Florida and can't watch the game, are we just getting shut down?

Swift n Sil3nt
03-12-2013, 09:27 PM
Really beginning to think Tortorella as the coach limits this teams potential. I hate this dump and chase mentality that we employ, and it does not utilize our offensive talents with guys like Nash, Gaborik, Richards, Callahan, Kreider, and others. Too many games of scoring 4 goals followed by several games of 1-2 goal duds.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-12-2013, 09:39 PM
It just does not make much sense to work so hard to get the puck to then just give it away so often. There are times to dump and chase but we should try to retain puck possession as often as possible and dump as a secondary choice.

bsi
03-12-2013, 09:39 PM
Really beginning to think Tortorella as the coach limits this teams potential. I hate this dump and chase mentality that we employ, and it does not utilize our offensive talents with guys like Nash, Gaborik, Richards, Callahan, Kreider, and others. Too many games of scoring 4 goals followed by several games of 1-2 goal duds.

What killed us tonight was the momentum draining 8 mins of penalties in the 2nd period. Nash, Gaborik and Richards hardly stepped on the ice in the second because of it.

Swift n Sil3nt
03-12-2013, 10:44 PM
It just does not make much sense to work so hard to get the puck to then just give it away so often. There are times to dump and chase but we should try to retain puck possession as often as possible and dump as a secondary choice.

I completely agree. The only issue is it appears that we dump and chase on every possession, and I am ok doing that with the 3rd and 4th lines that are suppose to be less finesse. But to me, the dump and chase teams are effective when you can throw a body in front of the net and aim for the turnover or pass in the slot or deflection, and we rarely capitalize on any of those.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-13-2013, 12:03 AM
I completely agree. The only issue is it appears that we dump and chase on every possession, and I am ok doing that with the 3rd and 4th lines that are suppose to be less finesse. But to me, the dump and chase teams are effective when you can throw a body in front of the net and aim for the turnover or pass in the slot or deflection, and we rarely capitalize on any of those.

You are right in my opinion. There is a time and a place. It should not be 90% of the time or 9% of the time. We need to show more balance and diversity. Bring on the guy in this video!

http://www.nrk.no/sport/_-er-i-daglig-kontakt-med-rangers-1.10946020?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

oak2455
03-13-2013, 12:07 AM
You are right in my opinion. There is a time and a place. It should not be 90% of the time or 9% of the time. We need to show more balance and diversity. Bring on the guy in this video!

http://www.nrk.no/sport/_-er-i-daglig-kontakt-med-rangers-1.10946020?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I hope he comes back!!!!

SLY WILLIAMS
03-13-2013, 12:14 AM
I hope he comes back!!!!

There you go!!! You now have one get out of jail free pass, lol (joke) :)

oak2455
03-13-2013, 01:07 AM
There you go!!! You now have one get out of jail free pass, lol (joke) :)

Can that pass be used at my home :) btw this team is missing something can't gadge what it is

SLY WILLIAMS
03-13-2013, 08:48 AM
Can that pass be used at my home :) btw this team is missing something can't gadge what it is

The pass is good anywhere but it expires on 03/12/2013 at 8:00 am :)

nyr2002nyr
03-13-2013, 09:09 AM
I could have played on the 2nd line last night and fit right in AWFUL

bsi
03-13-2013, 09:40 AM
We're missing that pressure from guys like Prust, Dubinsky and Anisimov (not punishing but able to create turnovers) from last year that made the D think twice about going in the corner. Haley did what he could last night but he'd tell you himself he has no business being anywhere above the 3rd line and I would go as far to say he should be on th 4th. I think it's become obvious that we aren't the tough Ranger team we were last year and the only guys that are scaring the D are Callahan and Boyle. Hagelin is getting in on the puck quick but he's too small to make the D pay. Skill isn't our problem, pressure is and no matter how you cut it we didn't do anything to turn over pucks against a weaker Buffalo team with their backup who hadn't won a game in a year and a half. That was a game we should have won and from my point of view the only guys trying were Lundqvist, Callahan, Stepan, Boyle, Girardi, McDongah and Haley. Nobody else was effective IMO.

nyr2002nyr
03-13-2013, 10:20 AM
We're missing that pressure from guys like Prust, Dubinsky and Anisimov (not punishing but able to create turnovers) from last year that made the D think twice about going in the corner. Haley did what he could last night but he'd tell you himself he has no business being anywhere above the 3rd line and I would go as far to say he should be on th 4th. I think it's become obvious that we aren't the tough Ranger team we were last year and the only guys that are scaring the D are Callahan and Boyle. Hagelin is getting in on the puck quick but he's too small to make the D pay. Skill isn't our problem, pressure is and no matter how you cut it we didn't do anything to turn over pucks against a weaker Buffalo team with their backup who hadn't won a game in a year and a half. That was a game we should have won and from my point of view the only guys trying were Lundqvist, Callahan, Stepan, Boyle, Girardi, McDongah and Haley. Nobody else was effective IMO.

But this is the problem with Torts you have to adjust the style you play to the players you have. You dont try and be a wide open skill team with grinders so why do you try and be a grinding dump and chase team with skill players?

bsi
03-13-2013, 11:51 AM
But this is the problem with Torts you have to adjust the style you play to the players you have. You dont try and be a wide open skill team with grinders so why do you try and be a grinding dump and chase team with skill players?

I gotta clear something up here about coaching systems in general and about the misconception of how Tortorella is coaching this team. Firstly dumping the puck in is ALWAYS the first option in any system, IF you can make a play to avoid a dump then you can do that but the dump is always the main objective. Torts doesn't limit this team to a dump and chase system as everyone seems to think, the players are limiting themselves to it by not being fast enough, creative enough or knowing when it's safe to dump or continue in with it. No coach makes it mandatory that every line has to dump it in, if they did it would be too predictable and they sure as heck wouldn't be coaching in the NHL. This coach makes it mandatory that the puck does indeed get in, and in doing that you have to either be agressive, create a play, take a bump or two or dump it in, most players on this team right now are lazy and choose to dump with the exception of Stepan, Callahan and Nash, they aren't doing it because they have to, it's just the easiest thing to do. Secondly, in hockey, everything starts from the back end. If you don't make a smooth transition from your own end everything gets limited from there on. The Rangers right now can't control the puck in their own end, and what ends up happening is that the winger ends up chipping it past the D man either creating a turnover in the neutral zone or a situation where we're outmanned in the neutral zone whereby we have to dump it in. All players have to want the puck, and right now about 5 guys want that puck, and you can change coaches, systems or whatever you want but it won't change anything because the effort is not there. As they say, you can polish a turd all you want but it's still a turd and our effort stinks!

nyr2002nyr
03-13-2013, 12:04 PM
I gotta clear something up here about coaching systems in general and about the misconception of how Tortorella is coaching this team. Firstly dumping the puck in is ALWAYS the first option in any system, IF you can make a play to avoid a dump then you can do that but the dump is always the main objective. Torts doesn't limit this team to a dump and chase system as everyone seems to think, the players are limiting themselves to it by not being fast enough, creative enough or knowing when it's safe to dump or continue in with it. No coach makes it mandatory that every line has to dump it in, if they did it would be too predictable and they sure as heck wouldn't be coaching in the NHL. This coach makes it mandatory that the puck does indeed get in, and in doing that you have to either be agressive, create a play, take a bump or two or dump it in, most players on this team right now are lazy and choose to dump with the exception of Stepan, Callahan and Nash, they aren't doing it because they have to, it's just the easiest thing to do. Secondly, in hockey, everything starts from the back end. If you don't make a smooth transition from your own end everything gets limited from there on. The Rangers right now can't control the puck in their own end, and what ends up happening is that the winger ends up chipping it past the D man either creating a turnover in the neutral zone or a situation where we're outmanned in the neutral zone whereby we have to dump it in. All players have to want the puck, and right now about 5 guys want that puck, and you can change coaches, systems or whatever you want but it won't change anything because the effort is not there. As they say, you can polish a turd all you want but it's still a turd and our effort stinks!

"dumping the puck in is ALWAYS the first option" That is false the first option is to get the puck in deep how you choose to do so is another story. They dump it a lot because they seem scared to mess up and be is his dog house and when you play scared you make mistakes

SLY WILLIAMS
03-13-2013, 12:46 PM
With all due respect I agree with NYR2002. While many teams now are often forced to dump in it is not always the first option. It just is not logical to work so hard in your own zone to get the puck back only to throw away possession of the puck as often as possible.

The Redwings in the past did not use that as a first option. If you watch many non North American teams that is not the first options. Herb Brooks did not use that as a first option. Crosby would not choose to dump and change if he could retain possession. Neither would Jagr. Neither would Datsyk. Do you not remember all the times Nylander used to circle back when lanes were clogged to find a way to keep puck possession instead of just dumping the puck in and giving up possession? When the Olympics come we will see a lot less dump and chase in games. Some of that will be because non North American teams have a different game plan. Some may be because of the bigger ice. The bottom line is dump and chase is not the only option all the time.

The lack of effort is another separate discussion. Why would so many players turn lazy at the same time?

fingerbang
03-13-2013, 12:46 PM
I think people forget how often other teams dump the puck in as well. The Bruins run the same stretch pass tip in. I can't tell you how many times I've heard Rangers fans say, "I can't believe they dump it on the power play." Lots of teams dump it in on the power play. Unless you have a slick passing team like our Jagr, Straka, Nylander tea,s, you have to dump it in, or else you play a sloppy neutral zone game and trade odd man rushes all night. Our major problem this year has been weak board play, something that we were really good at last year.

I think it's funny the the two guys that were really good at skating the puck in the zone (Gomez and Dubinsky) never really got any credit for it.

bsi
03-13-2013, 12:55 PM
"dumping the puck in is ALWAYS the first option" That is false the first option is to get the puck in deep how you choose to do so is another story. They dump it a lot because they seem scared to mess up and be is his dog house and when you play scared you make mistakes

Dumping is your go to play, if you see something else another way to get it in then you can but ALL coaches want that puck in deep and the dump is the go to play, 70% of the time the puck should be dumped in. You end up in the dog house because you make mistakes, if you make smart plays then you'll never end up there, ie Callahan or Girardi. Can you explain to me with your theory how come it is that Callahan, Nash and Stepan are able to gain the opposing zone without being freaked out by the boogie man that is the Dog House? Callahan, Stepan and Nash are the only ones who carry the puck in, why is that? It's because they make smart plays, they aren't going to turn it over and they gain the zone. The only way you enter the dog house is if you make a play that creates a turnover, it's about decision making, when can you go with it, when should you dump it, if you continually make the wrong decision then you aren't part of the solution you're part of the problem and in most cases it's lack of effort. If it was just a system problem I would agree with you but do you really see our players battling hard, racing for the puck or forcing the play outside of Hagelin, Nash, Callahan and Stepan(lately)? The team just isnt putting the effort in they need to win, nobody is going to just give you the game because you're the Rangers. The three tripping penalties in the second are indicative of a team that isn't skating and when you have 8 minutes out of a 20 minute period shorthanded and with your best offensive players on the bench bad things are bound to happen.

fingerbang
03-13-2013, 12:55 PM
The Rangers can't even string together two tape to tape passes on a power play so it doesn't really surprise me that we're not a slick passing team when coming through the neutral zone.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-13-2013, 01:07 PM
I think people forget how often other teams dump the puck in as well. The Bruins run the same stretch pass tip in. I can't tell you how many times I've heard Rangers fans say, "I can't believe they dump it on the power play." Lots of teams dump it in on the power play. Unless you have a slick passing team like our Jagr, Straka, Nylander tea,s, you have to dump it in, or else you play a sloppy neutral zone game and trade odd man rushes all night. Our major problem this year has been weak board play, something that we were really good at last year.

I think it's funny the the two guys that were really good at skating the puck in the zone (Gomez and Dubinsky) never really got any credit for it.

You are right other teams do dump and chase. It was frequent in the 70's. It was not as frequent in the 80's. With the traps it became more frequent in the 90's. Today it is very frequent. You are also right that guys like Gomer and Duby (as well as Nylander) did not get credit for "carrying the mail" Dump and chase is part of the game. Whether it is the Rangers or all other teams I prefer to watch teams maintain puck possession when possible. Guys get so programed to dump and chase that I have seen some dumps on odd man rushes by accident.

bsi
03-13-2013, 01:10 PM
With all due respect I agree with NYR2002. While many teams now are often forced to dump in it is not always the first option. It just is not logical to work so hard in your own zone to get the puck back only to throw away possession of the puck as often as possible.

The Redwings in the past did not use that as a first option. If you watch many non North American teams that is not the first options. Herb Brooks did not use that as a first option. Crosby would not choose to dump and change if he could retain possession. Neither would Jagr. Neither would Datsyk. Do you not remember all the times Nylander used to circle back when lanes were clogged to find a way to keep puck possession instead of just dumping the puck in and giving up possession? When the Olympics come we will see a lot less dump and chase in games. Some of that will be because non North American teams have a different game plan. Some may be because of the bigger ice. The bottom line is dump and chase is not the only option all the time.

The lack of effort is another separate discussion. Why would so many players turn lazy at the same time?

A dump in isn't supposed to be a play to give up possession, it's a play to GAIN possession in the opposing zone. That's the whole problem, our forwards outside of Hagelin and Callahan aren't getting to those pucks and gaining possession. You used Crosby as an example well he's a player that uses the soft dump more than anyone, he always does a soft dump against the wall and continues to skate by the D, and he's the best in the league at hunting down pucks and getting control off the dump. In fact Pitsburgh's PP is based on the dump with the forwards gaining control off of it. Datsyuk is the same, but with both players they are able to make smart decisions when to dump and when to take a calculated chance to gain the zone without a dump. These guys know how to do it and they rarely get caught turning it over in bad areas of the ice.

Team Canada and Team USA in the last Olympics were primarily dump and chase teams and they were in the finals last year. Nobody said dump and chase was the only option all the time, it's an option, an option you choose based on what you are presented with at the time, if you can't create a way to get into the zone without dumping then you do it, but if you can't you should be dumping it. It's basic hockey, the strategy used by 99% of coaches around the world. Our problem is that our players are taking the easy way out and dumping. If our strategy was to dump all the time then how do you explain Callahan, Nash and Stepan continually carrying the puck deep? Are you telling me that Torts told everyone but those three to dump and chase? Nope, doesn't work that way, those are the guys that are making the smart decisions and not turning the puck over, the rest are just lazy and taking the easy way out because they aren't giving the effort it takes to gain the zone in the NHL without a turnover.

Your question about why the players all turned lazy at once is something you'd have to ask the players, I don't know why they did. Do you think the effort is there?

SLY WILLIAMS
03-13-2013, 01:12 PM
The Rangers can't even string together two tape to tape passes on a power play so it doesn't really surprise me that we're not a slick passing team when coming through the neutral zone.

That is one point that may seem true today BUT come the Olympics I bet you will watch guys like Gabs pass and play more of a puck possession game without a problem. This reminds me of a tournament I was in where a bunch of older chl players played against a team of 16 year olds. The 16 year olds took a beating physically (despite it being a limited contact tournament) but they won the game 9-4. The young kids played a puck possession game while the minor leaguers played traditional dump and chase.

SLY WILLIAMS
03-13-2013, 01:15 PM
A dump in isn't supposed to be a play to give up possession, it's a play to gain possession in the opposing zone.

I can not address your whole statement right now but let me address this first line. You would not have to regain possession if you did not give up possession. If Crosby uses the side boards to bat the puck to himself around a defender that is not what I see as a real dump and chase. I used to do that all the time in my own zone to try and get around a point man so I would get a breakaway.