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ThaDubs
02-27-2013, 11:49 PM
If someone has already posted this by the time I do so, sorry close it.

Steph Curry had 54 points on 11/13 on 3 pointers.

Led team in points (obv.), rebounds, assists, and steals.

He broke a franchise record for 3's in a game.
He was 1 off tying the NBA record for 3's in a game.
He is the first Warriors to have 2 straight games of 30+ points of 7+ 3's.
Most points scored in a game by an NBA player so far this year.
First Warriors to have at least 54 since the 80's.
First player in NBA history to score 50+ on 10+ 3's (54, 11)

Lost the game sadly but, wow.

Also great game for Chandler with 16 points 28 rebounds.

3s:

P&R: 4-5
Spot up: 3-4
Transition: 2-2
Off screen/iso: 2-2

Overall: 11-13

Johann
02-27-2013, 11:49 PM
Finally.

S.H.E.E.P

Hawkeye15
02-27-2013, 11:50 PM
yeah, how do you waste a game where a dude crushes it like that? Too bad, but still, man, Steph destroyed it.

So, are we still saying the "hot hand" doesn't exist some of you?

asandhu23
02-27-2013, 11:51 PM
Hot hand on a day Curry didn't have to share the ball with anyone...

HouRealCoach
02-27-2013, 11:51 PM
Tyson Chandler had a career night also 16 points & 28 rebounds

hineswardfan
02-27-2013, 11:52 PM
He went off tonight

Blitzbolt
02-27-2013, 11:52 PM
Question who was guarding him on defense?

*Superman*
02-27-2013, 11:53 PM
Tyson with the hot hand rebounding hand today.

Johann
02-27-2013, 11:53 PM
I posted this in the GT, but I think it needs more views; by a county sheriff in Alaska


I am posting that in that thread dude. I ****ing can not believe anyone doesn't believe its true, unless they were not a shooter, which I was.

With Hawkeye being from Alaska, I got curious:


That's weird...

http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/p/gunlaws_ak.htm

He lives in AK, go find him.

ThaDubs
02-27-2013, 11:55 PM
Question who was guarding him on defense?

Felton I think but he was shooting dribble pull-up transition threes, deep threes, etc.
He had about one 3 where he was standing still and had virtually nobody contesting it.

NYKnickFanatic
02-27-2013, 11:56 PM
Question who was guarding him on defense?

Felton

seikou8
02-27-2013, 11:57 PM
But there no such thing as a hot hand right guppy:D

Hawkeye15
02-27-2013, 11:57 PM
I posted this in the GT, but I think it needs more views; by a county sheriff in Alaska



With Hawkeye being from Alaska, I got curious:



He lives in AK, go find him.

what are you curious about? I was a shooter haha. Still am. My dad was an awesome player, my brother and I got his talent split up, so we never got to his level.

JNoel
02-27-2013, 11:58 PM
Best shooter in the league currently.

*Superman*
02-27-2013, 11:58 PM
Question who was guarding him on defense?

Looked like a chipmunk on the court to me.

looka09
02-28-2013, 12:00 AM
Steph Curry's 92 points in consecutive
games is the most since Kobe had 97 back
in February '09.

justinnum1
02-28-2013, 12:00 AM
It was pretty epic

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 12:01 AM
I told Illusionist Steph has been better than Kobe. He responded with ":laugh:" I guess Steph was reading.

Johann
02-28-2013, 12:03 AM
what are you curious about? I was a shooter haha. Still am. My dad was an awesome player, my brother and I got his talent split up, so we never got to his level.

It's illegal to own a gun in Alaska.

jimm120
02-28-2013, 12:04 AM
It wasn't about who was guarding him (Felton, Shumpert, Melo) but the kinds of shots he took and how he just didn't miss.

Kashmir13579
02-28-2013, 12:06 AM
wow

justinnum1
02-28-2013, 12:06 AM
I told Illusionist Steph has been better than Kobe. He responded with ":laugh:" I guess Steph was reading.

No doubt about that.

D12 fan
02-28-2013, 12:07 AM
Curry>Cp3

Django
02-28-2013, 12:09 AM
Knicks are back!

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 12:11 AM
Curry>Cp3

Nawww

BKLYNpigeon
02-28-2013, 12:12 AM
Knicks are back!

Sure....

the Knicks beat the Warriors on a back to back with out David Lee and Andrew Bogut.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 12:15 AM
yeah, how do you waste a game where a dude crushes it like that? Too bad, but still, man, Steph destroyed it.

So, are we still saying the "hot hand" doesn't exist some of you?

Yes.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 12:16 AM
Sucks that we couldn't lose the next game and suffer the regression in that area later, but oh well.

THE MTL
02-28-2013, 12:22 AM
Sure....

the Knicks beat the Warriors on a back to back with out David Lee and Andrew Bogut.

Um does it say that in the W column? A win is a win. Btw, you cannot use the excuse of David Lee because most likely Curry would have NEVER went off the way he did.

It had to happen the way it did. SO stop hating.

BKLYNpigeon
02-28-2013, 12:26 AM
Um does it say that in the W column? A win is a win. Btw, you cannot use the excuse of David Lee because most likely Curry would have NEVER went off the way he did.

It had to happen the way it did. SO stop hating.


Not Hating at all....

Knicks started the season 18-5

after that hot start they're 16-15, the last 31 games.

D-Leethal
02-28-2013, 12:27 AM
Reggie Steph Curry

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 12:28 AM
Um does it say that in the W column? A win is a win. Btw, you cannot use the excuse of David Lee because most likely Curry would have NEVER went off the way he did.

It had to happen the way it did. SO stop hating.

W-L record doesn't say how good a team is and it is not predictive.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 12:28 AM
Um does it say that in the W column? A win is a win. Btw, you cannot use the excuse of David Lee because most likely Curry would have NEVER went off the way he did.

It had to happen the way it did. SO stop hating.

But Steph said he felt good going in. I'm not going to say we'd win if we have David but for instance David is one of the best rebounders in the NBA so it's probably not a coincidence that the night of David's absence is the night Chandler gets his career high in rebounds.

Hawkeye15
02-28-2013, 12:29 AM
I mean, we should be so shocked that Del Curry's kid can shoot...

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 12:30 AM
Knicks won because of 12 extra free throws and 15 extra shots.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 12:37 AM
lol

KniCks4LiFe
02-28-2013, 12:37 AM
Knicks won because of 12 extra free throws and 15 extra shots.

Knicks won b/c of Tyson Chandler's 28 REBS. Raymond Felton's defense was worse than watching Steve Nash this season. Hell him and Steve Novak had something in common tonight.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 12:37 AM
Knicks won b/c of Tyson Chandler's 28 REBS. Raymond Felton's defense was worse than watching Steve Nash this season. Hell him and Steve Novak had something in common tonight.

Yeah, and what I said.

SugeKnight
02-28-2013, 12:45 AM
2 great games from Steph wasted on losses

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 12:46 AM
2 great games from Steph wasted on losses

They are never wasted. The fact we can see him do this is a great thing to see and bolds well for the future.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 12:51 AM
Yeah, could've used a little D. Lee on his old floor tonight to help Steph out. Rough loss, but it was a road back to back against the 2nd of two HCA teams, so that makes the effort by Curry that much more epic. I'm on full horn now; greatest 3pt shooter ever. Already.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 12:57 AM
Yeah, could've used a little D. Lee on his old floor tonight to help Steph out. Rough loss, but it was a road back to back against the 2nd of two HCA teams, so that makes the effort by Curry that much more epic. I'm on full horn now; greatest 3pt shooter ever. Already.

2nd all time 3P% career but much more attempts per game than Steve Curr.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 12:57 AM
2nd all time 3P% career but much more attempts per game than Steve Curr.

And the line was closer for Steve.

cheetos185
02-28-2013, 01:05 AM
Knicks won because of 12 extra free throws and 15 extra shots.

and it wasn't a blow out win because curry couldn't miss any shots lol

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 01:06 AM
and it wasn't a blow out win because curry couldn't miss any shots lol

lol Fair enough

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 01:07 AM
I am curious as to what the Knicks plan to do in the off season. It appears to me the only keepers are Chandler, Melo, and Shumpert. I am sure they are stuck with some of their old dudes, but what are they going to do next off season? Everyone outside of the three I mentioned are either ****** or old.

Jeffy25
02-28-2013, 01:09 AM
Felton I think but he was shooting dribble pull-up transition threes, deep threes, etc.
He had about one 3 where he was standing still and had virtually nobody contesting it.

Yeah, pretty much all of it was in transition and motion.

He wasn't being guarded and just pulling up, it was a lot of fastbreak three's as well.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 01:11 AM
I wish I could have watched this game. My car broke down and the tow truck AAA sent took two hours to get to me.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 01:12 AM
Yeah, pretty much all of it was in transition and motion.

He wasn't being guarded and just pulling up, it was a lot of fastbreak three's as well.

A lot of them were almost 40 ft. out and a lot of them were guarded.

Hawkeye15
02-28-2013, 01:13 AM
I am so happy Kahn took Flynn over Curry.......


kill me now

Jeffy25
02-28-2013, 01:13 AM
I mean, we should be so shocked that Del Curry's kid can shoot...


Has the NBA ever had two active NBA players be a father and son in the league at the same time?

The Curry's missed by 7 seasons.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 01:15 AM
I am so happy Kahn took Flynn over Curry.......


kill me now


Imagine Curry playing the two with rubio setting him up with silky smooth passes dude.

Alayla
02-28-2013, 01:15 AM
yeah, how do you waste a game where a dude crushes it like that? Too bad, but still, man, Steph destroyed it.

So, are we still saying the "hot hand" doesn't exist some of you?

Hot hand nothing Curry is just that good of a shooter when hes in the right frame of mind.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 01:18 AM
Has the NBA ever had two active NBA players be a father and son in the league at the same time?

The Curry's missed by 7 seasons.

It's happened in baseball (Griffey's for sure and maybe Ripken's and Alomar's come to mind), but I can't think of any in basketball. There's been 7 or 8 father/sons, never same time though.

Jeffy25
02-28-2013, 01:22 AM
It's happened in baseball (Griffey's for sure and maybe Ripken's and Alomar's come to mind), but I can't think of any in basketball. There's been 7 or 8 father/sons, never same time though.

Yeah, aware of it in baseball, but was curious in basketball.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 01:25 AM
Baseball has a longer aging curve, I believe.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 01:31 AM
Yeah, virtually non contact and you don't need to be highly (or remotely) athletic for certain positions. Hence so many 15+ year vets. Bang for your buck that's the sport you want to go pro in.

Bishnoff
02-28-2013, 01:35 AM
I'm looking forward to watching Curry's performance tonight after work.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 01:37 AM
I'm looking forward to watching Curry's performance tonight after work.

Have fun... :D

OceanSpray
02-28-2013, 01:38 AM
It was honestly scary watching Curry play. So much potential.. Such an amazing shooter.

JC_
02-28-2013, 01:38 AM
Knicks won because of 12 extra free throws and 15 extra shots.

GS would have won if Lee hadn't been suspended. Kind of ******** suspension imo.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 01:40 AM
GS would have won if Lee hadn't been suspended. Kind of ******** suspension imo.

NBA wants us to do bad. Suspend our all-star undeservingly, then tell the refs to call tic tacs on us.

mp3
02-28-2013, 01:40 AM
I thought it was awesome to see Curry smiling as he kept scoring. I don't think he could believe how good he was doing. This kid can really shoot.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 01:41 AM
NBA wants us to do bad. Suspend our all-star undeservingly, then tell the refs to call tic tacs on us.

The NBA doesn't want the sixth biggest market to do bad. That's ********. There is no conspiracy against us.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 01:42 AM
Steph Curry's last 5 games: 30/4/7 on 54% fg / 56% 3pt / 91% ft. Averaging 8.6 3pt attempts per game... at 56%.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 01:45 AM
Steph>Kobe

IDunknown
02-28-2013, 01:46 AM
A lot of them were almost 40 ft. out and a lot of them were guarded.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b5Ievjs24mU/TfzRmjYCazI/AAAAAAAABCQ/oMRChR_mXb8/s1600/nba_court_dimensions_h.png:rolleyes:

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 01:49 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b5Ievjs24mU/TfzRmjYCazI/AAAAAAAABCQ/oMRChR_mXb8/s1600/nba_court_dimensions_h.png:rolleyes:

Meant to say 30 oops :facepalm:

BKLYNpigeon
02-28-2013, 02:01 AM
The NBA doesn't want the sixth biggest market to do bad. That's ********. There is no conspiracy against us.

Only 2 markets matter. New York and Los Angeles.

BKLYNpigeon
02-28-2013, 02:05 AM
Steph had a great game offensively... but he really needs to cut down on the turnovers, especially in the last 2 minutes. he averages 3 TO's a game. ouch.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 02:09 AM
Only 2 markets matter. New York and Los Angeles.

The NBA is not rigging anything against us. Don't make our fanbase look bad.

Hawkeye15
02-28-2013, 02:11 AM
Imagine Curry playing the two with rubio setting him up with silky smooth passes dude.

Wes Johnson over Cousins....

kill me again

Baller1
02-28-2013, 02:13 AM
Such a fun game to watch. I was cheering for Curry like I was watching Ray Ray from the mid 2000's.

Reminded me of the game that Ray Allen beat Phoenix in double overtime around that time. Watching a three point shooter in the zone is one of the most exciting things in basketball.

J4KOP99
02-28-2013, 02:17 AM
11-13 from 3, in an nba game... amazing. I don't care how ****** the defense was

Beltrans Mole
02-28-2013, 02:22 AM
Curry can flat out shoot...what a player. Thank god the Knicks prevailed!

SugeKnight
02-28-2013, 02:33 AM
Knicks fans remember when they were one pick away from getting Curry, only to have the Warriors take him and get left with Jordan Hill

CityofChaos
02-28-2013, 02:39 AM
WOW and he only shot 7 free throws

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 02:47 AM
KD gets 52. Shoots 20 free throws.
Steph gets 54. Shoots 7 free throws and ties/beats franchise and NBA records.
Best performance of the year? Think so.

OceanSpray
02-28-2013, 02:51 AM
Steph had a great game offensively... but he really needs to cut down on the turnovers, especially in the last 2 minutes. he averages 3 TO's a game. ouch.

3 TO's a game is actually average.

Allphakenny1
02-28-2013, 03:08 AM
Off the top of my head I would say Curry is a top 5 PG behind Paul, Parker, Westbrook and Irving. And that is saying a lot since the PG position is pretty stacked right now.

J4KOP99
02-28-2013, 03:11 AM
Curry is very solid and has tremendous potential. However, his frequent injuries are his main problem.

Blitzace137
02-28-2013, 03:23 AM
Knicks fans remember when they were one pick away from getting Curry, only to have the Warriors take him and get left with Jordan Hill

I was so mad that day we were so close to having him drop to us.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 03:25 AM
Imo:

1: CP3
2: Tony Parker
3a: Kyrie
3b: Steph
4: Westbrick
5: Jrue

OceanSpray
02-28-2013, 03:26 AM
Curry is not on Irving's level.. Not even fair to compare them.

Vinny642
02-28-2013, 03:28 AM
congrats curry

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 03:35 AM
Curry is not on Irving's level.. Not even fair to compare them.

Not even fair?

Last 10:

Steph: 22 pts 5 rbs 7 ast
Kyrie: 22 pts 4 rbs 6 ast

And talk to me when Kyrie gets 54 points and breaks and ties like 5 franchise and NBA records, let alone leads his team in points, rebounds, assists, and steals in a game.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 03:39 AM
Curry is not on Irving's level.. Not even fair to compare them.

Care to attempt to explain that one?


Not even fair?

Last 10:

Steph: 22 pts 5 rbs 7 ast
Kyrie: 22 pts 4 rbs 6 ast

And talk to me when Kyrie gets 54 points and breaks and ties like 5 franchise and NBA records, let alone leads his team in points, rebounds, assists, and steals in a game.

Last 10? Just put up the whole season. They're on the exact same level.

PraiseJesus
02-28-2013, 03:41 AM
I predicted this performance. Yesterday I said to my homie, Curry needs a 50 pt game.

Low and behold, it happens.....

This kid is one of the most skilled players in NBA history. If he can stay healthy he is the 2nd best PG in the NBA.

Thank god Monta Ellis is gone. I don't see why Curry cant drop 50 pts games like this a couple times a month.

For gods sake, look what he did as a rookie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGNnHDksvJ8

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 03:41 AM
Curry is not on Irving's level.. Not even fair to compare them.

Steph looks to pass more than Kyrie. Kyrie looks to score much more than Curry because he's on a bad team. Due to the lack of one of our best offensive players, Steph looked to score more and all I can say is look what happened.

Also Steph has higher WS/48.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 03:44 AM
On the season:

Curry: 21.9/4.1/6.5, 3.0 TO's on 45% FG / 46% 3pt / 91% FT

Irving: 23.3/3.6/5.5, 3.2 TO's on 47% FG / 42% 3pt / 86% FT

TS% and WS/48 go to Curry, PER to Irving.

"Not on Irving's level". Love that kid.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 03:46 AM
On the season:

Curry: 21.9/4.1/6.5, 3.0 TO's on 45% FG / 46% 3pt / 91% FT

Irving: 23.3/3.6/5.5, 3.2 TO's on 47% FG / 42% 3pt / 86% FT

TS% and WS/48 go to Curry, PER to Irving.

"Not on Irving's level". Love that kid.

Looking at the stats I'd say Steph is actually better than Kyrie if anything.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 03:48 AM
Looking at the stats I'd say Steph is actually better than Kyrie if anything.

His D is also better than Kyrie's this year. As Steph actually plays smart/effective defense now, and Kyrie is up there with the worst defenders in the NBA. LOVE Kyrie, but he plays one end.

PraiseJesus
02-28-2013, 03:50 AM
Looking at the stats I'd say Steph is actually better than Kyrie if anything.

Curry is more skilled but Kyrie has better athleticism.

I'll take talent and basketball IQ over physical talent anyday

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 03:55 AM
His D is also better than Kyrie's this year. As Steph actually plays smart/effective defense now, and Kyrie is up there with the worst defenders in the NBA. LOVE Kyrie, but he plays one end.

Yeah Kyrie is easily one of my favorite players but Kyrie has terrible defense (not that Steph's is anything too special) and I hate when people literally pull comments like that out of their ***** without anything to back up what they think. Kyrie is a better 1 on 1 player and driver.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 04:01 AM
Yeah Kyrie is easily one of my favorite players but Kyrie has terrible defense (not that Steph's is anything too special) and I hate when people literally pull comments like that out of their ***** without anything to back up what they think. Kyrie is a better 1 on 1 player and driver.

It's what happens when people rely on hearing about players rather than watching them or even taking the time to dissect the stats. Agree on all that though. Kyrie's 1v1 game is actually already the best in the NBA in my opinion. His combo of range+driving ability can't really be touched.

b@llhog24
02-28-2013, 04:02 AM
How does Steph edge Kyrie statistically? The fact that Kyrie is even able to put up the efficiency numbers with the amount of abysmal talent around him is fairly impressive. Imo, he has the better mix of USG and Ortg and his win shares would've been higher if he didn't get so much nagging injuries. But Kyrie's defense is pretty lackluster.

b@llhog24
02-28-2013, 04:05 AM
Anyways, I'm too sleep to form a coherent argument. But I'll check out your responses later.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 04:10 AM
How does Steph edge Kyrie statistically? The fact that Kyrie is even able to put up the efficiency numbers with the amount of abysmal talent around him is fairly impressive. Imo, he has the better mix of USG and Ortg and his win shares would've been higher if he didn't get so much nagging injuries. But Kyrie's defense is pretty lackluster.

hah, well not sure nagging injuries is a topic you'd want to bring up for anyone when comparing them to Curry.

You can't make a compelling argument for either one ahead of the other statistically. They're on the exact same level of offensive impact. Which was my point, personally. That said, Kyrie's D just puts him lower overall. He doesn't play it. Steph's actually started to figure it out, albeit marginally.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 04:19 AM
How does Steph edge Kyrie statistically? The fact that Kyrie is even able to put up the efficiency numbers with the amount of abysmal talent around him is fairly impressive. Imo, he has the better mix of USG and Ortg and his win shares would've been higher if he didn't get so much nagging injuries. But Kyrie's defense is pretty lackluster.

Because he's averaging more points per game and nothing more. Steph isn't quite as efficient from the field, but he's been wrecking as of late. Steph doesn't look to score as much as Kyrie. Kyrie looks to score and that's why he scores more. David Lee's absence was the reason Steph was looking to score and look at that, he scored 54. And before you go blaming Steph's edge on Kyrie on WS/48 on naggy injuries, remember who you're comparing Kyrie to lmao...

b@llhog24
02-28-2013, 04:53 AM
hah, well not sure nagging injuries is a topic you'd want to bring up for anyone when comparing them to Curry.

I kind of chuckled to myself while I was typing it tbh. But I'm referring to this season.


You can't make a compelling argument for either one ahead of the other statistically. They're on the exact same level of offensive impact. Which was my point, personally. That said, Kyrie's D just puts him lower overall. He doesn't play it. Steph's actually started to figure it out, albeit marginally.

Meh. I'll call it a push.


Because he's averaging more points per game and nothing more.

Then you need to take off your homer glasses.


Steph isn't quite as efficient from the field, but he's been wrecking as of late. Steph doesn't look to score as much as Kyrie. Kyrie looks to score and that's why he scores more. David Lee's absence was the reason Steph was looking to score and look at that, he scored 54. And before you go blaming Steph's edge on Kyrie on WS/48 on naggy injuries, remember who you're comparing Kyrie to lmao...

It's kind of funny that you choose to make your argument on passing seeing as how Kyrie facilitates a larger % of his team's offense when he's on the floor. Rather than scoring efficiency which Steph beats out Kyrie in. Also using one game as evidence? :facepalm:

I'll say it once more, Kyrie has the better mix of usage and overall offensive efficiency with his second best player being TRISTAN THOMPSON. Think of that. Most people barely know who that guy is. I don't think that Steph playing better defense, (even though he still leaves a lot to be desired defensively) stops Kyrie from being better.

We'll agree to disagree.

Kuya_Clive
02-28-2013, 05:13 AM
I am so happy he is on my fantasy team. He basically single handedly won 3's for me this week with that performance lol.

yaswaggin
02-28-2013, 09:45 AM
kyrie is 20, curry is what, 25?

lets compare both using their second year in the league:

kyrie: 23 ppg 46% shooting, 42% from three on 4.6 attempts a game, 5 ft attempts a game on 86% shooting, 5.6 apg, all-star, 3 pt shooting champion, making 16 of 17 at one point

curry: 18.6 ppg 48% shooting, 44% from three on 4.6 attempts a game, 3.1 attempts a game on 93% shooting, 5.8 apg

now curry was more efficient, but they nearly had the same stats. only difference is kyrie was better at driving and getting contact. edit: oh and i forgot to mention kyrie lead the league last year in being the most clutch player in a close game in the last 2 min of the game, and so far this season he is also #1 on the list

so yeah i'd say its pretty close, but curry is pretty much the same player when he was in his 2nd year he is now, except that hes become even more of a three point shooter and his defense is a centimeter better.

irving>curry if i start a franchise

benzni
02-28-2013, 10:03 AM
nuts

blahblahyoutoo
02-28-2013, 10:41 AM
Knicks won b/c of Tyson Chandler's 28 REBS. Raymond Felton's defense was worse than watching Steve Nash this season. Hell him and Steve Novak had something in common tonight.
i don't blame felton.
nobody could've guarded curry last night.

flea
02-28-2013, 10:50 AM
2nd best PG in the game behind Kobe.

nycericanguy
02-28-2013, 11:06 AM
W-L record doesn't say how good a team is and it is not predictive.


Knicks won because of 12 extra free throws and 15 extra shots.


Yeah, and what I said.


I am curious as to what the Knicks plan to do in the off season. It appears to me the only keepers are Chandler, Melo, and Shumpert. I am sure they are stuck with some of their old dudes, but what are they going to do next off season? Everyone outside of the three I mentioned are either ****** or old.

Do you go into every thread and try to make it an anti-Knick thread?

And why would NY only keep those 3 guys? :confused:

We're just gonna let JR, Felton, Novak, Amare, Kidd all go?

heyman321
02-28-2013, 11:06 AM
kyrie is 20, curry is what, 25?

lets compare both using their second year in the league:

kyrie: 23 ppg 46% shooting, 42% from three on 4.6 attempts a game, 5 ft attempts a game on 86% shooting, 5.6 apg, all-star, 3 pt shooting champion, making 16 of 17 at one point

curry: 18.6 ppg 48% shooting, 44% from three on 4.6 attempts a game, 3.1 attempts a game on 93% shooting, 5.8 apg

now curry was more efficient, but they nearly had the same stats. only difference is kyrie was better at driving and getting contact. edit: oh and i forgot to mention kyrie lead the league last year in being the most clutch player in a close game in the last 2 min of the game, and so far this season he is also #1 on the list

so yeah i'd say its pretty close, but curry is pretty much the same player when he was in his 2nd year he is now, except that hes become even more of a three point shooter and his defense is a centimeter better.

irving>curry if i start a franchise

You mean when Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson, and other high volume scorers were on his team in the 2nd year?

Weezy
02-28-2013, 11:10 AM
What a performance. I was very impressed.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 11:18 AM
kyrie is 20, curry is what, 25?

lets compare both using their second year in the league:

kyrie: 23 ppg 46% shooting, 42% from three on 4.6 attempts a game, 5 ft attempts a game on 86% shooting, 5.6 apg, all-star, 3 pt shooting champion, making 16 of 17 at one point

curry: 18.6 ppg 48% shooting, 44% from three on 4.6 attempts a game, 3.1 attempts a game on 93% shooting, 5.8 apg

now curry was more efficient, but they nearly had the same stats. only difference is kyrie was better at driving and getting contact. edit: oh and i forgot to mention kyrie lead the league last year in being the most clutch player in a close game in the last 2 min of the game, and so far this season he is also #1 on the list

so yeah i'd say its pretty close, but curry is pretty much the same player when he was in his 2nd year he is now, except that hes become even more of a three point shooter and his defense is a centimeter better.

irving>curry if i start a franchise

Curry is 24 and yeah I already said Kyrie is going to be a better 24 year old than Steph but we're talking about the present.

MaloDaw9
02-28-2013, 11:30 AM
Irving >Curry all day and it's not even close..

Nice game for Curry but only a Curryphile would take him over Irving.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 11:31 AM
Then you need to take off your homer glasses.

OK.

Stephen Curry: 21.9 ppg, 4.1* rpg, 6.5* apg, 0.2 bpg, 1.7* spg 44.7%, 46%* 3, 90.6%* FT

Kyrie Irving: 23.3* ppg, 3.6 rpg, 5.6 apg, 0.4* bpg, 1.6 spg, 46.8%*, 42% 3, 85.8% FT

Steph: 5 *'s
Kyrie: 3 *'s

Kyrie is literally the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th option for the Cavs. Steph has David Lee, Klay Thompson, and Jarrett Jack. Normally with the game on the line we give JJ the ball, whereas Cavs give Kyrie the ball. Normally when we want to score, we give David Lee the ball, whereas Cavs give Kyrie the ball. Steph looks to score a lot because he's a scoring point guard, but he doesn't look to score nearly as much as Kyrie does.

Jesse2272
02-28-2013, 11:32 AM
Felton I think but he was shooting dribble pull-up transition threes, deep threes, etc.
He had about one 3 where he was standing still and had virtually nobody contesting it.

he was unguardable last night

MaloDaw9
02-28-2013, 11:34 AM
OK.

Stephen Curry: 21.9 ppg, 4.1* rpg, 6.5* apg, 0.2 bpg, 1.7* spg 44.7%, 46%* 3, 90.6%* FT

Kyrie Irving: 23.3* ppg, 3.6 rpg, 5.6 apg, 0.4* bpg, 1.6 spg, 46.8%*, 42% 3, 85.8% FT

Steph: 5 *'s
Kyrie: 3 *'s

Kyrie is literally the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th option for the Cavs. Steph has David Lee, Klay Thompson, and Jarrett Jack. Normally with the game on the line we give JJ the ball, whereas Cavs give Kyrie the ball. Normally when we want to score, we give David Lee the ball, whereas Cavs give Kyrie the ball. Steph looks to score a lot because he's a scoring point guard, but he doesn't look to score nearly as much as Kyrie does.

Take off the homer glasses kid..You should change your sig to PSD's biggest Curryphile

ManningToTyree
02-28-2013, 11:41 AM
Knicks fans remember when they were one pick away from getting Curry, only to have the Warriors take him and get left with Jordan Hill

Yup. I wanted Curry so bad. He is an incredible scorer and the rest of his game is underrated. If he can cut down on the turnovers and stay healthy, he can do great things for GSW.

ManningToTyree
02-28-2013, 11:45 AM
Irving >Curry all day and it's not even close..

Nice game for Curry but only a Curryphile would take him over Irving.

I'm a Curry fan and I couldn't agree more. Kyrie has MVP potential.

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 12:05 PM
Take off the homer glasses kid..You should change your sig to PSD's biggest Curryphile

? I love Kyrie and he's one of my favorite players. I just showed you the stats I didn't pull them out of nowhere. Sorry if that's how I'm coming off but that's how I feel. When I made my initial list that's why I said that it was only my opinion. I think Kyrie is going to be much better than a 24 year old Steph when he's 24. Jeez man just because you don't agree with something I say I'm automatically the biggest -phile of the player I'm supporting? Quit being an ignoramus. I respect ballhog's and I'll respect anybody's opinion who actually backs themselves up but you've probably never seen another post by me and you're calling me the biggest Curryphile? Smh...

Stats prove it and he's the leader of a winning team.

kingsdelez24
02-28-2013, 12:58 PM
All I have to say is in my sig

NoahH
02-28-2013, 01:05 PM
Curry > Irving. You can;t compare career stats. Curry was injured last year and the two years before that Monta 'chucker' Ellis hogged the ball. This year is showing his true colors. I've been on the Curry bandwagon since early Davidson years so it's good to see my man do work

FYL_McVeezy
02-28-2013, 01:56 PM
Amazing performance by Steph Curry in the Garden last night. What a great game to watch! What made even better is the fact that the Knicks found a way to win LOL.

Someone should make a gif of Curry running down the floor after he hit that pull up 3 in the 4th quarter.

SugeKnight
02-28-2013, 01:57 PM
Irving >Curry all day and it's not even close..

Nice game for Curry but only a Curryphile would take him over Irving.
How is it not even close when curry is clearly better than Irving right now

b@llhog24
02-28-2013, 04:27 PM
OK.

Stephen Curry: 21.9 ppg, 4.1* rpg, 6.5* apg, 0.2 bpg, 1.7* spg 44.7%, 46%* 3, 90.6%* FT

Kyrie Irving: 23.3* ppg, 3.6 rpg, 5.6 apg, 0.4* bpg, 1.6 spg, 46.8%*, 42% 3, 85.8% FT

Steph: 5 *'s
Kyrie: 3 *'s

Kyrie is literally the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th option for the Cavs. Steph has David Lee, Klay Thompson, and Jarrett Jack. Normally with the game on the line we give JJ the ball, whereas Cavs give Kyrie the ball. Normally when we want to score, we give David Lee the ball, whereas Cavs give Kyrie the ball. Steph looks to score a lot because he's a scoring point guard, but he doesn't look to score nearly as much as Kyrie does.

Kyrie's pace adjusted AST% is higher, and he has the better mix of overall offensive efficiency and usage.

b@llhog24
02-28-2013, 04:28 PM
How is it not even close when curry is clearly better than Irving right now

Maybe I'm wrong, but weren't you like the biggest supporter of keeping Monta instead of Curry?

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 04:32 PM
Warrior fans still like Monta and Hate Klay.

It's kind of ****ing stupid. Our forum doesn't get it yet.

D-Leethal
02-28-2013, 04:36 PM
i don't blame felton.
nobody could've guarded curry last night.

Nobody who doesn't openly hate and bash Felton at every chance does. Most of his shots were tough contests, we doubled and he found the open man, we didn't double and he stepped over screens and drilled 25 footers.

ChicagoFan4Eva
02-28-2013, 04:40 PM
That man can shoot! Lights out! I was glad I got to witness that awesome game last night.

SugeKnight
02-28-2013, 06:15 PM
Irving >Curry all day and it's not even close..

Nice game for Curry but only a Curryphile would take him over Irving.


Maybe I'm wrong, but weren't you like the biggest supporter of keeping Monta instead of Curry?
Nah I wanted them to keep both

ThaDubs
02-28-2013, 07:39 PM
Warrior fans still like Monta and Hate Klay.

It's kind of ****ing stupid. Our forum doesn't get it yet.

They're both chuckers.

Rivera
02-28-2013, 07:47 PM
I am so happy Kahn took Flynn over Curry.......


kill me now

Rubio and curry :drool:

Run&Gun
02-28-2013, 08:10 PM
he was unguardable last night

Agreed, once he started making a few it didn't really matter who would have been on him, his release and ability to square up is just way too fast. And once they had to respect his shot he was able to get in the lane pretty easy made a lot of really hard and creative shots.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 08:12 PM
They're both chuckers.

Klay Thompson's true shooting percentage is very efficient. The term chucker is only applicable to guys who hurt their team with their chucking.

Don't be dumb.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 08:17 PM
Klay Thompson's true shooting percentage is very efficient. The term chucker is only applicable to guys who hurt their team with their chucking.

Don't be dumb.

Actually his TS% is terrible, partially because he doesn't get to the line (despite being a great foul shooter). Currently, it's fair to say Klay is a very poor player, but he's young and does show a lot of flashes. He needs great coaching to get there, but at least he's not a dribbling ball stopper in the same vein as Monta.

Overall, no-Monta is a huge bonus for any team.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 08:20 PM
Actually his TS% is terrible, partially because he doesn't get to the line (despite being a great foul shooter). Currently, it's fair to say Klay is a very poor player, but he's young and does show a lot of flashes. He needs great coaching to get there, but at least he's not a dribbling ball stopper in the same vein as Monta.

Overall, no-Monta is a huge bonus for any team.


Oh, for some reason I thought it was 540. That's just his career. 528 is still above average.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 08:25 PM
Oh, for some reason I thought it was 540. That's just his career. 528 is still above average.

54% is an average TS%, 52.8 is below average for the last 5+ years. He's not efficient in any stretch of the word. 12.4 PER is shouting that from the mountain tops.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 08:32 PM
A .500 TS% is about average, .550 is very good

Where are you getting .540 is average?

Hawkeye15
02-28-2013, 08:40 PM
Rubio and curry :drool:

Totally. And Wes over Cousins? We could have a legit all star caliber center on the cheap for 2 more years, versus having to make a decision to pay Pekovic $11-12 million a year this summer....

My GM is such a crappy drafter. I used to try my best to make sense of what he does, but I am done defending him.

Guppyfighter
02-28-2013, 08:41 PM
Totally. And Wes over Cousins? We could have a legit all star caliber center on the cheap for 2 more years, versus having to make a decision to pay Pekovic $11-12 million a year this summer....

My GM is such a crappy drafter. I used to try my best to make sense of what he does, but I am done defending him.

He's done an okay job outside of drafting, though.

Hawkeye15
02-28-2013, 08:44 PM
He's done an okay job outside of drafting, though.

Sure, but in a small market team, drafting is the only way to sustain long term success and keep the roster flowing with the right mix of incoming youth and veteran leadership. I would probably not be quite as hard on him (the drafting yes, overall no), if we weren't destroyed by injuries. I think the Wolves could have won nearly 50 games had Love not lost a season, Roy done, Lee done, Budinger out for all but 6 games, with all the other injuries sprinkled in here and there.

I also think him not giving Love the 5 years was idiotic.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 08:44 PM
A .500 TS% is about average, .550 is very good

Where are you getting .540 is average?

I just know from years of looking at players TS%'s that 52.8 is below average, and this post from PatsSoxKnicks a couple years ago is where I was checking out averages by year:

AI's career TS% is 52%. You honestly think he had above average shooting efficiency (volumes aside, his split was 42.5/31.3/78.0)?

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?646666-league-averages-of-TS-eFG-and-assisted-vs-unassisted-shots

.550 is not a 'Very good' TS%. I'd start calling people 'very good' around 57.5%, 60 being the litmus test for the elite scorers on efficiency.

tredigs
02-28-2013, 08:53 PM
To be exact, Klay Thompson comes in tied for the 164th best TS% this season. Probably 125th or so for players with 25+ MPG. So, yeah.

At 58.3% TS% Curry barely cracks the top 50 - though with players at 25+ MPG he might sneak into the top 30-35.

Rivera
02-28-2013, 09:10 PM
Totally. And Wes over Cousins? We could have a legit all star caliber center on the cheap for 2 more years, versus having to make a decision to pay Pekovic $11-12 million a year this summer....

My GM is such a crappy drafter. I used to try my best to make sense of what he does, but I am done defending him.

Rubio curry love and cousins :drool:

Hawkeye15
02-28-2013, 09:17 PM
Rubio curry love and cousins :drool:

with Kirilenko, and then Shved, Barea, and Williams off the bench. Its just irritating. Though, if we had taken Curry, we wouldn't have been bad enough most likely to even have a shot at Cousins.

Tkwod5
02-28-2013, 10:11 PM
man on FIRE