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Clippersfan86
02-25-2013, 03:38 PM
"The Los Angeles Clippers and Washington Wizards had an agreement in principle on the eve of the deadline involving a trade of Caron Butler for Trevor Ariza, according to sources.

Donald Sterling rejected the trade a few hours before the deadline in fear of ruining the team's chemistry.

Butler continues to have a home in the Washington D.C. area, while Ariza would have given the Clippers a wing defender with length."



Sterling really seems to care about these guys and what the team does lately. Kudos to this veto. Butler is better than Ariza this year. They do similar things but the difference is Butler has experience and leadership he gives this team, not to mention he's a great chemistry guy.

This would have been categorized as "Making a trade, just to make a trade".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk-qHDsvRRc

JiffyMix88
02-25-2013, 04:16 PM
Why would he have to veto a trade? Can't he just tell his GM no I don't like that trade?

Clippersfan86
02-25-2013, 04:19 PM
Maybe they mean just nix the trade like you're saying. It was agreed upon and Sterling dropped the hammer for the first time ever.

Chronz
02-25-2013, 04:21 PM
A veto is how you tell him you dont approve brah

Ariza is intriguing tho, not sure how much chemistry is worth but I admit its prolly not a good idea to disturb it for what is at best a modest improvement at worst a lateral move.

Clippersfan86
02-25-2013, 04:24 PM
A veto is how you tell him you dont approve brah

Ariza is intriguing tho, not sure how much chemistry is worth but I admit its prolly not a good idea to disturb it for what is at best a modest improvement at worst a lateral move.

Exactly. None of us Clippers fans are big Butler fans but no reason to make a lateral trade.

kdspurman
02-25-2013, 04:27 PM
Didn't Ariza play with CP3 in New Orleans? I'm sure they could've found a way to fit him in without too much disruption, other than maybe personality chemistry.

BTW, nice to have you back Clippersfan86... You backed out on your word but it's all good ;)

Clippersfan86
02-25-2013, 04:31 PM
Didn't Ariza play with CP3 in New Orleans? I'm sure they could've found a way to fit him in without too much disruption, other than maybe personality chemistry.

BTW, nice to have you back Clippersfan86... You backed out on your word but it's all good ;)

Not intentionally though. I was posting mostly on the Clippers forum I post on and just neglected it here a bit. Grats on your team win, that was a brutal, unexpected *** kicking. Popovich once again proved why Vinny has no business coaching in the NBA. It was truly like a monkey challenging a chess master to a game of high stakes chess. Vinny had no counters to anything Pop did and Pop was constantly two steps ahead.

Also your players seemed highly motivated and focused, while ours looked like they didn't give a flying F as they bent over and took it. I was appalled and haven't seen that kind of lack of heart and effort all season long probably. Teammates arguing and looking confused, players pouting and racking up techs. It was just demoralizing.

kdspurman
02-25-2013, 04:34 PM
Not intentionally though. I was posting mostly on the Clippers forum I post on and just neglected it here a bit. Grats on your team win, that was a brutal, unexpected *** kicking. Popovich once again proved why Vinny has no business coaching in the NBA. It was truly like a monkey challenging a chess master to a game of high stakes chess. Vinny had no counters to anything Pop did and Pop was constantly two steps ahead.

Also your players seemed highly motivated and focused, while ours looked like they didn't give a flying F as they bent over and took it. I was appalled and haven't seen that kind of lack of heart and effort all season long probably. Teammates arguing and looking confused, players pouting and racking up techs. It was just demoralizing.

I hear that man. Can't get too high on wins or too low on losses. Every team has a game like that at some point throughout the season. But Vinny did seem to not make many if any adjustments

Clippersfan86
02-25-2013, 04:41 PM
I hear that man. Can't get too high on wins or too low on losses. Every team has a game like that at some point throughout the season. But Vinny did seem to not make many if any adjustments

Remember I'm a long time fan of a terrible team. It's hard not to get pumped about big losses or get really bummed over bad losses. It will improve over time I'm sure. I'm glad other fans see Vinny's failures as a coach. Unlike Pop who's constantly managing a game with adjustments... Vinny sticks with set routines and makes zero adjustments. For example he always benches the starters for about 6-7 minutes to start 2nd quarters but fails to understand that if the team gives up a big run, you can bring Blake+CP3 back after let's say 3 minutes.

Every other team in the NBA outside of the older Spurs plays their stars big minutes... no reason Blake or CP3 can't handle playing 38-40+ minutes once in a while.

Cracka2HI!
02-25-2013, 06:38 PM
"The Los Angeles Clippers and Washington Wizards had an agreement in principle on the eve of the deadline involving a trade of Caron Butler for Trevor Ariza, according to sources.

Donald Sterling rejected the trade a few hours before the deadline in fear of ruining the team's chemistry.

Butler continues to have a home in the Washington D.C. area, while Ariza would have given the Clippers a wing defender with length."



Sterling really seems to care about these guys and what the team does lately. Kudos to this veto. Butler is better than Ariza this year. They do similar things but the difference is Butler has experience and leadership he gives this team, not to mention he's a great chemistry guy.

This would have been categorized as "Making a trade, just to make a trade".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk-qHDsvRRc


A veto is how you tell him you dont approve brah

Ariza is intriguing tho, not sure how much chemistry is worth but I admit its prolly not a good idea to disturb it for what is at best a modest improvement at worst a lateral move.


Exactly. None of us Clippers fans are big Butler fans but no reason to make a lateral trade.

Holy **** we all agree on something Clipper related! Ironically we agree that keeping Butler was a good move. I would have never seen that coming!!

Clippersfan86
02-25-2013, 06:40 PM
Holy **** we all agree on something Clipper related! Ironically we agree that keeping Butler was a good move. I would have never seen that coming!!

:cheers:

Cracka2HI!
02-25-2013, 06:41 PM
Remember I'm a long time fan of a terrible team. It's hard not to get pumped about big losses or get really bummed over bad losses. It will improve over time I'm sure. I'm glad other fans see Vinny's failures as a coach. Unlike Pop who's constantly managing a game with adjustments... Vinny sticks with set routines and makes zero adjustments. For example he always benches the starters for about 6-7 minutes to start 2nd quarters but fails to understand that if the team gives up a big run, you can bring Blake+CP3 back after let's say 3 minutes.

Every other team in the NBA outside of the older Spurs plays their stars big minutes... no reason Blake or CP3 can't handle playing 38-40+ minutes once in a while.

That game was brutal but I don't think VDN is a bad coach because of it. We just plain got our *** kicked.

LAKobeBryant
02-25-2013, 06:42 PM
Ariza is the most deserving player to be on a contending team.

Clippersfan86
02-25-2013, 06:43 PM
That game was brutal but I don't think VDN is a bad coach because of it. We just plain got our *** kicked.

Agree not all Vinny. I think the lack of energy, focus and heart was beyond sickening from the players. Barnes put it perfectly that they were still in vacation mode. Nobody but Blake looked like they gave a flying fu**. Players were slow, carefree and too busy going after refs. Although if their coach was Pop I have no doubt he would have had them more prepared and made it more competitive. When the Spurs come out sluggish he rips their ***** apart.

I think we may need a coach like SVG who has no issue destroying a player who's fu**ing up. Maybe they could toughen DJ up which we all know he needs bad.

Cracka2HI!
02-25-2013, 06:57 PM
Agree not all Vinny. I think the lack of energy, focus and heart was beyond sickening from the players. Barnes put it perfectly that they were still in vacation mode. Nobody but Blake looked like they gave a flying fu**. Players were slow, carefree and too busy going after refs. Although if their coach was Pop I have no doubt he would have had them more prepared and made it more competitive. When the Spurs come out sluggish he rips their ***** apart.

I think we may need a coach like SVG who has no issue destroying a player who's fu**ing up. Maybe they could toughen DJ up which we all know he needs bad.

Yea I hear you. That game was just dog ****. Worst game of the year by far. I'm not sure how I feel about replacing VDN as coach. For the most part I think he's had a great year and is a big part of what we are doing....but I can't deny a guy like SVG being a better coach. I think ideally VDN stays as GM and hires a new coach...however he is still a young coach, I beleive this is his 5th year and he has shown major signs of improvement. I'm sure he still looks at himself as a head coach. He will very hard to replace and if CP3 doesn't want him replaced he won't be.

HouRealCoach
02-25-2013, 07:08 PM
Ariza replacing Butler would have made that team much more scarier

netsgiantsyanks
02-25-2013, 07:44 PM
i see sterling is finally giving a **** now that the clippers are actually doing good.

apet8945
02-25-2013, 08:44 PM
What a stupid ****ing trade this would have been. The Clippers need shooters to spread the floor for Griffin inside. Butler may not be the best choice, but he sure as hell is better than Ariza. And why would the FO want to get another defensive specialist for the 3 spot when they already have two in Barnes and Hill? Wtf were they thinking?

kylem4711
02-25-2013, 11:40 PM
pretty happy this didn't happen. I like ariza too.

Hitman 3:16
02-25-2013, 11:47 PM
That would have been interesting to see 2 members of the Lakers '09 championship team re-united in Odom and Ariza.

Cracka2HI!
02-25-2013, 11:50 PM
I don't think this was a brilliant or ingenious move by Sterling but I do think this is the most positive thing that has ever been reported about the Clippers owner. I literally don't think I've ever seen him portrayed in a positive light in an article. Not that this did, it just didn't rip him.

3RDASYSTEM
02-26-2013, 12:01 AM
Based on youth and his playoff run with LA I would have made this trade

CLIPPS have enough leadership with CP3/BILLUPS/HILL/ODOM, that's enough for 3 teams, minus BUTLER

its close don't get me wrong, BUTLER aint chopped liver but he's coming off major injury and hes lil bit older than ARIZA if my memory serves correct

Clippersfan86
02-26-2013, 01:55 PM
I don't think this was a brilliant or ingenious move by Sterling but I do think this is the most positive thing that has ever been reported about the Clippers owner. I literally don't think I've ever seen him portrayed in a positive light in an article. Not that this did, it just didn't rip him.


http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/clippers/post/_/id/3922/sterling-overcome-with-franchise-pride-as-paul-named-all-star-mvp


Sterling seems to genuinely care nowadays and deserves some slack IMO. I'm not about to judge him based on what he did 5-10 years ago and beyond. In recent years he's stepped up a ton.

Twins Fanatic
02-26-2013, 02:27 PM
Stupid veto, Ariza is a way better defender (sure his offense isn't that great, but LA doesn't need more scorers) plus Ariza has a better motor than Butler does.