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justinnum1
02-21-2013, 06:03 PM
wow. Roses' brother is also his manager.

espn.com
Derrick Rose's brother and manager Reggie Rose said Thursday that the franchise hasn't put enough quality players around the Chicago Bulls star to win a championship and that could be a "big factor" in whether he returns this season from a knee injury.

"What have you pieced together? Have you made any moves? Have you made any trades to get better? You know all roads to the championship lead through Miami," Reggie Rose told ESPNChicago.com. "What pieces have you put together for the physical playoffs?

"Joakim Noah is a great player. Luol Deng is a great player. But you need more than that. You have to put together pieces to your main piece. The players can only do so much. It's up to the organization to make them better."

The Bulls stood pat at Thursday's trade deadline.

"It's frustrating to see my brother play his heart and soul out for the team and them not put anything around him," Reggie Rose said.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8971475/derrick-rose-brother-says-no-trades-big-factor-return
I wonder how much influence he has on derrick.

Avenged
02-21-2013, 06:06 PM
Eh.. Rose hasn't even played.

mjt20mik
02-21-2013, 06:07 PM
I don't know if I'd agree with this.

They have:

Great Coach: Thibs
All-star Center: Joakim
All-star Forward: Deng

Honestly, the biggest thing they need is a bench. Other than that, their team is pretty solid.

JNoel
02-21-2013, 06:08 PM
Rose is leaving in a couple years.

SteBO
02-21-2013, 06:12 PM
Not buying into this at all......and as Avenged said, Rose hasn't even played.

Htownballa1622
02-21-2013, 06:13 PM
He's sort of right though. :shrug:

Bulls as currently constructed won't ever get by the Heat.

Slug3
02-21-2013, 06:15 PM
I think Rose needs to come back when he's actually perfectly healthy to come back. Not if they put more pieces around him.

Mitch Kramer
02-21-2013, 06:22 PM
He's sort of right though. :shrug:

Bulls as currently constructed won't ever get by the Heat.

Yup, he is right. Glad he came out and said this. Maybe the Bulls FO will wake up and do something this offseason

Sevilla91
02-21-2013, 06:31 PM
Please, if dirk can win a ring with what he had, rose is more than able too.....His brother is just looking out for his brother, doesnt mean he knows basketball

sep11ie
02-21-2013, 06:32 PM
Every rose has it's thorn.

Brewhouse94
02-21-2013, 06:36 PM
How do you build around someone that hasn't played in a year and thats eating up over a quarter of your cap space?

kozelkid
02-21-2013, 06:37 PM
Rose is leaving in a couple years.

***** please.

AddiX
02-21-2013, 06:38 PM
I feel bad for the teams/businesses who have to actually deal and negotiate with this moron.

Bulls_fan90
02-21-2013, 06:46 PM
I guess it's true to a certain extent.

5ass
02-21-2013, 06:48 PM
Actually, hes kind of right. Bulls ownership sometimes try to cut corners and go the cheaper route.

DR_1
02-21-2013, 06:53 PM
Reggie is a moron. Leave the talking to the people who know what they are saying.

Green_Monster
02-21-2013, 06:57 PM
Please, if dirk can win a ring with what he had, rose is more than able too.....His brother is just looking out for his brother, doesnt mean he knows basketball

Dirk may have not had another star, but he had a bunch of solid players. Kidd, Chandler, Terry, Marion, Stevenson, Barea, Butler, etc.

netsgiantsyanks
02-21-2013, 06:59 PM
he's partially right. he makes it seem like they suck, which is not the case at all.

Gators123
02-21-2013, 07:13 PM
I'm guessing Rose feels the same way?

smith&wesson
02-21-2013, 07:14 PM
I don't know if I'd agree with this.

They have:

Great Coach: Thibs
All-star Center: Joakim
All-star Forward: Deng

Honestly, the biggest thing they need is a bench. Other than that, their team is pretty solid.

His point was that while they are really good that core hasn't proved it can get to the finals. They need to get passed Miami is what he is saying.


Eh.. Rose hasn't even played.

I'm pretty sure his brother/manager knows this my man.


How do you build around someone that hasn't played in a year and thats eating up over a quarter of your cap space?

By trading boozer maybe, or trade butler for a more polished player who can help them win now. maybe package them together for a significant piece.

Vancity
02-21-2013, 07:19 PM
Maybe Rose should recruit like Wade did. Where are his buds?
2nd, why mortgage the future for a shot at this year when Rose may not come back, and if so certainly not back to 100 %

Absurd.
Drex, Sir Charles, Ewing, Reggie weren't screaming oh hey surround me more when Jordan was winning his ships'
In fact Rose probably other than that 1996 team has an equal supporting cast.
Jordan took time to win, LeBron too. And those guys and Karl Malone never won.

At least he has won something, a gold medal...... wait.

Gibby23
02-21-2013, 07:24 PM
The guy is stupid. What is he talking about? The Bulls have had the best record in the NBA the past 2 years. If Ros was playing, they would be up there again this year. They had a shot 2 years ago and lost with HCA, would have had another shot with a healthy Rose last year. Does he want the team to be winning at the same % without their best player, one of the NBA's best players, and an MVP? Get real.

jiggin
02-21-2013, 07:29 PM
Why would coming back from injury have ANYTHING to do with the other players on the team.

This is where players go out too far on their demands and what they are "telling" on how it is.

Rose's job, under his current contract, is to get healthy and get back on the basketball court. SIMPLE AS THAT.

Nothing else. Threatening not to return from injury due to feeling like the team is not competitive is NOT his decision to make. Its NOT in his contract. That is the owners decision to make.

These NBA players are getting way to whiny.

I would love to have teams get all LEGAL on their ***** for breach of contract.

GREEDY...and your brother shouldn't be your manager unless he went to school to learn about it. Family business managers (unless experienced) is just ASKING for problems. I know you want to help your brother out, get him a job and make him good money...but come on. Stop carrying your brother and then have him act like he knows what the hell he is doing.

Red_Pill
02-21-2013, 07:30 PM
Maybe Rose should recruit like Wade did. Where are his buds?
2nd, why mortgage the future for a shot at this year when Rose may not come back, and if so certainly not back to 100 %

Absurd.
Drex, Sir Charles, Ewing, Reggie weren't screaming oh hey surround me more when Jordan was winning his ships'


Drexler left Portland for Houston because he couldn't win on his own. Hence why he finally won a title with Hakeem. Barkley never won, but he DID demand to be traded to a better team, hence Phoenix and eventually, Houston with Hakeem and Drexler. And of course Ewing and Reggie never won, because they never had that second star that championship teams need.

Master Mind
02-21-2013, 07:32 PM
Every rose has it's thorn.

Perfect timing

smood999
02-21-2013, 07:43 PM
Maybe Rose should recruit like Wade did. Where are his buds?
2nd, why mortgage the future for a shot at this year when Rose may not come back, and if so certainly not back to 100 %

Absurd.
Drex, Sir Charles, Ewing, Reggie weren't screaming oh hey surround me more when Jordan was winning his ships'
In fact Rose probably other than that 1996 team has an equal supporting cast.
Jordan took time to win, LeBron too. And those guys and Karl Malone never won.

At least he has won something, a gold medal...... wait.

They also didn't have Jordan teaming up with Barkley and Ewing...MIA has put the pressure on star players around the league by joining forces

smood999
02-21-2013, 07:56 PM
It's not very encouraging that in 2 yrs of playoffs, minus Dallas' miracle run, the Heat have only lost 5 games total when Bosh, LeBron and Wade are in the lineup...all teams can hope for is injuries and age

OKC couldn't win more than one game with Harden...and Indy and Bos only won games that Bosh was out so their success last yr, to me, is a little misleading

Dade County
02-21-2013, 08:00 PM
Please, if dirk can win a ring with what he had, rose is more than able too.....His brother is just looking out for his brother, doesnt mean he knows basketball

that was because of entertainment reasons... you shouldn't count on this happening again.

unless the script writers what to shack things up.

ManRam
02-21-2013, 08:02 PM
They've committed themselves to 3 other guys with tough contracts. It's resulted in a team that can contend with just about any team in the West when Rose is healthy. The perfect team? No. But it's gotten them pretty far. Rose hasn't played this year and the team still has a top 10 record. That's pretty solid.


And you know what's probably just as important as having another star player? Having a top 3 defense the last 3 seasons. That's immensely valuable.

Kinda stupid comments.

However, that Boozer contract is gonna hurt them down the road big team. They could amnesty, but that biting the bullet on a ton of money.

Marlin234
02-21-2013, 08:06 PM
Every rose has it's thorn.

lol this was good

Hawkeye15
02-21-2013, 08:11 PM
boo hoo for Rose's situation. Going to a team that had zip business drafting him in the first place, and being given playoff talent by year 2.

Nothing against Rose on this one, but he needs to shut his brother up. Does his brother understand what the luxury tax is? The Bulls knew this was not a season in which they would contend, may as well save some money, let their young star heal, and then re-set this summer.

mdm692
02-21-2013, 08:27 PM
Rose is leaving in a couple years.

You have him confused with Lebron James.

KniCks4LiFe
02-21-2013, 08:30 PM
tell Derrick's brother to stfu.

abe_froman
02-21-2013, 08:51 PM
I wonder how much influence he has on derrick.
1.bulls fans will typically rip this as no fanbase likes hearing anything like this(see reports from cle about lebron,tor fans about bosh,laker fans about kobe a few years ago,magic fans about dwight,ect.),but like those fanbases should have worried and didnt take seriously so will us bulls fans(very stupid imo).we should take seriously because he has alot influence on rose,he's the main brother/unofficial representative for derrick(think of him as derrick's maverick carter)

but the silver lining here is that derrick is locked up for many more years,giving us enough time to turn it around before we must seriously worry

WickedBadMan
02-21-2013, 09:12 PM
Always bugs me how Rose is painted as "Mr. Bull", he just lets all the people around him do the shady business **** while he keeps his mouth shut. Hardly the humble hero he is made out to be.

gotoHcarolina52
02-21-2013, 09:14 PM
Rose is leaving in a couple years.

He's coming to South Beach to be the HEAT's sixth man.

JNoel
02-21-2013, 09:17 PM
He's coming to South Beach to be the HEAT's sixth man.
Exactly. :dance:

SugeKnight
02-21-2013, 09:33 PM
Taking the attention off of his brother for "The Return"

mdm692
02-21-2013, 09:33 PM
They should try to get him Eric Gordon or Kevin Love.

Bartlee23
02-21-2013, 09:40 PM
For those of you who think " Rose is leaving in a couple of years" you are mistaken as pointed out by several people that Rose has signed a multi year contract and is not going anywhere. Rose is from Chicago, his family is from Chicago, he has invested in Giordano's pizza in Chicago and Chicago's core of Noah, Deng, Gibson,Butler and himself are all very young. Tom Thibodeau is one of the top coaches in the league who a lot of players are going to want to play for.

Chicago can get rid of Boozer at any time and have a lot of money to spend, they have Nikola Mirotic in Europe ready to come here shortly who should be a very good player, have the Bobcats draft pick even though it's protected till 2017 they're not getting good anytime soon. Miami's window for winning is not very long where Chicago will be a title contender for years to come. It's really just a matter of keeping these main guys together, getting that one extra star on the team and building a good consistant bench which they've shown they can do.

gotoHcarolina52
02-21-2013, 11:49 PM
For those of you who think " Rose is leaving in a couple of years" you are mistaken as pointed out by several people that Rose has signed a multi year contract and is not going anywhere. Rose is from Chicago, his family is from Chicago, he has invested in Giordano's pizza in Chicago and Chicago's core of Noah, Deng, Gibson,Butler and himself are all very young. Tom Thibodeau is one of the top coaches in the league who a lot of players are going to want to play for.

Chicago can get rid of Boozer at any time and have a lot of money to spend, they have Nikola Mirotic in Europe ready to come here shortly who should be a very good player, have the Bobcats draft pick even though it's protected till 2017 they're not getting good anytime soon. Miami's window for winning is not very long where Chicago will be a title contender for years to come. It's really just a matter of keeping these main guys together, getting that one extra star on the team and building a good consistant bench which they've shown they can do.

Rose is clearly unhappy with the Bulls' management. Sorry to break it to you, bud, but he gone.

He'll be collecting his Giordano's pizza checks from his hammock on South Beach.

Bartlee23
02-22-2013, 12:16 AM
[QUOTE=gotoHcarolina52;25451597]Rose is clearly unhappy with the Bulls' management. Sorry to break it to you, bud, but he gone.

You are aware he signed a long term contract with Chicago aren't you " bud" ? He can't go anywhere anytime soon even if he wanted to. You hear one thing posted on the internet so that makes it true right? It's obvious you know nothing about Rose or the Bulls organization. He's already made his " decision" on where he's going to be and is "taking his talents to Chicago" get a clue.

LAKobeBryant
02-22-2013, 12:16 AM
Its a solid championship contending roster to me.
A MVP player, and two all-stars this year. Team chemistry is 10x more important than just stacking a all-star roster.

celtNYpatsHeels
02-22-2013, 12:41 AM
Bulls are right at the Lux tax for next season, they dont have too much flexibility. They need to unload Boozer somehow...

That being said, a PG cannot be the best player on a championship team unless that team is San Antonio (extremely deep with a HOF coach and other HOF players)... the last team that won a championship built around a PG was Detroit in 1990 AKA almost 25 years ago

Cubby
02-22-2013, 12:47 AM
Rose is clearly unhappy with the Bulls' management. Sorry to break it to you, bud, but he gone.

He'll be collecting his Giordano's pizza checks from his hammock on South Beach.

Well then I guess him coming out and denying that he feels the same way is irrelevant and he's leaving no matter what. Let's just ignore that and the huge contract he has.

Troll on, buddy! :up:

Cool007
02-22-2013, 01:01 AM
boo hoo for Rose's situation. Going to a team that had zip business drafting him in the first place, and being given playoff talent by year 2.

Nothing against Rose on this one, but he needs to shut his brother up. Does his brother understand what the luxury tax is? The Bulls knew this was not a season in which they would contend, may as well save some money, let their young star heal, and then re-set this summer.

I agree and do not agree at a same time.

The team was kind of gutted in the Rose's 2nd year when Bulls had flip murray, warrick etc on the team. Bulls were trying to land atleast 1 if not 2 of LeBron/Wade/Bosh but their luck was that all 3 joined 1 team and Bulls were left with Boozer.

Boozer was a huge disappointment and Bulls are still looking for the #2 option to Rose. IMO, Bulls should have pulled the trigger on Deng + NOah for Melo when they had a chance.

What Bulls need is a LEGIT 2nd scorer who can get his own shot and can put pressure on the Heat, that would make Rose's job much easier and would help Bulls team possibly beat the Heat.

Bulls also should have traded Deng for Rudy Gay as well. But wasted opportunities. The thing is Bulls management falls in love with some role players is what hurting them making a BOLD move.

SeoulBeatz
02-22-2013, 01:02 AM
uhhh, the bulls have a pretty damn good team built around rose. defensive minded, good big-rotaiton, defensive wings who can play off the ball and knock down outside shots, what more do you need?

jp611
02-22-2013, 01:03 AM
Lol, who woulda thought Justin would have posted this

Obsessed

Cubby
02-22-2013, 01:05 AM
I agree and do not agree at a same time.

The team was kind of gutted in the Rose's 2nd year when Bulls had flip murray, warrick etc on the team. Bulls were trying to land atleast 1 if not 2 of LeBron/Wade/Bosh but their luck was that all 3 joined 1 team and Bulls were left with Boozer.

Boozer was a huge disappointment and Bulls are still looking for the #2 option to Rose. IMO, Bulls should have pulled the trigger on Deng + NOah for Melo when they had a chance.

What Bulls need is a LEGIT 2nd scorer who can get his own shot and can put pressure on the Heat, that would make Rose's job much easier and would help Bulls team possibly beat the Heat.

Bulls also should have traded Deng for Rudy Gay as well. But wasted opportunities. The thing is Bulls management falls in love with some role players is what hurting them making a BOLD move.

The two trardes you mentioned make us worse and don't help us in the long term.

Cool007
02-22-2013, 01:08 AM
Its a solid championship contending roster to me.
A MVP player, and two all-stars this year. Team chemistry is 10x more important than just stacking a all-star roster.

Noah is a borderline all-star and Deng is no way in shape an all-star player. IMO, as a bulls fan I totally don't think he deserved it but then again East is lacking all-star caliber players.

Cool007
02-22-2013, 01:12 AM
uhhh, the bulls have a pretty damn good team built around rose. defensive minded, good big-rotaiton, defensive wings who can play off the ball and knock down outside shots, what more do you need?

You said it right, Bulls do have a lot of defensive specialists and defensive players but what Bulls are missing is a legit 2nd option or another 20+ppg scorer that can make the other team pay for doubling Rose.

Also the coach is superb as well but that is mainly defensively. Thibs is nowhere near that good of a offensive coach.

DeyAce
02-22-2013, 01:13 AM
Glad Reggie said it. Someone had to. This is turning into the Lebron Cleveland situation where they gave him no help. Bulls Front office never make any trades and sign vet min players because they got a cheap owner and GM's who overvalue role players.

SeoulBeatz
02-22-2013, 01:15 AM
You said it right, Bulls do have a lot of defensive specialists and defensive players but what Bulls are missing is a legit 2nd option or another 20+ppg scorer that can make the other team pay for doubling Rose.

Also the coach is superb as well but that is mainly defensively. Thibs is nowhere near that good of a offensive coach.

no doubt a second scoring option would help, but i feel like Luol and Rip should suffice. They could upgrade their PF position so they could have someone to consistently throw the ball downlow to.

i dunno, this current Bulls squad reminds me of A.I's Sixers back in 00-01.

The offense runs through A.I or Rose, and he's surrounded with defensive minded role players.

Not a bad bad system to have, especially when Rose's supporting cast is superior to what A.I was working with (Dikembe and Mckie were solid, but Snow, Jumaine Jones, and Tyrone Hill can only get you so far).

c.c.
02-22-2013, 01:27 AM
So is his brother repeating statements that Rose made to him

kozelkid
02-22-2013, 01:28 AM
Rose is clearly unhappy with the Bulls' management. Sorry to break it to you, bud, but he gone.

You should take some lessons from DMF, cause your trolling is weak son.

Why would Rose go to a downgrade? We both know Lebron is bolting as soon as 2014 comes around (whether it is back to Cleveland or LA, who knows). So by the time 2015-2016 rolls around (i.e. Rose's contract is up), Miami will be pretty awful situation.

Besides, if Rose were to actually leave, I think he'd prefer to go to a franchise that actually is an UPGRADE in terms of winning tradition, which would leave us with only Boston or LA. Lakers may suck now, but yall are kidding yourselves if you don't think they'll at least nab some combo of Lebron, Love, Westbrook, etc.

OaklandsFinest
02-22-2013, 01:45 AM
1- His Brother is right
2- Rose is going absolutely nowhere he is Chicago
3- They really missed out on the opportunity of Boozer for Amare.
4- When in doubt never **** with Boozer. After his Cleveland debacle I'd never sign him on principal

JWO35
02-22-2013, 07:57 AM
So is his brother repeating statements that Rose made to him

I doubt word for word... But I'm sure they share the same concerns for Rose risking coming back to a team that might not have a chance.

Uncbball234
02-22-2013, 09:14 AM
Lol, who woulda thought Justin would have posted this

Obsessed

Lol who would of thought you would blow this off like it was nothing.

koreancabbage
02-22-2013, 09:21 AM
if anything, Rose has to take his game to the next level for Chicago to have a chance at the championship. Without Rose, this team is a regular season success team but come playoff time, I think they would find it unbearable to score (and for Deng and Hamilton to play both defense and offense at high levels over the course of a 7 game series)

however, this team isn't getting any younger from their wing positions with marquee players - they definitely need a big time scorer to offset the attention from Rose (in a perfect world)

Mitch Kramer
02-22-2013, 09:23 AM
Glad Reggie said it. Someone had to. This is turning into the Lebron Cleveland situation where they gave him no help. Bulls Front office never make any trades and sign vet min players because they got a cheap owner and GM's who overvalue role players.

While i think the Bulls have a better surrounding cast than the Cavs did back then, you couldnt be more right about the FO. Such a joke.

KingPosey
02-22-2013, 09:46 AM
There are 4 all star caliber starters including Rose lol, what more does he want?

And I wouldn't add a bunch more contracts while Rose is out with a major injury, that makes no sense

Uncbball234
02-22-2013, 09:52 AM
Is this a huge deal? Probably not, but it shouldn't be blown off as nothing like the homers from the Bulls forum are doing. Reggie and Derrick are very close, Reggie handled all of Derricks interviews in high school and Reggie seems to be courtside at just about every Bulls game.

For the record Reggie is right the Bulls FO doesnt have the balls to make a major move. A part of me hopes he does leave so he doesnt have to be Karl Malone or Barkely. The dude does give his heart and soul to the game and does deserve a ring

Uncbball234
02-22-2013, 09:52 AM
There are 4 all star caliber starters including Rose lol, what more does he want?

And I wouldn't add a bunch more contracts while Rose is out with a major injury, that makes no sense

Another playmaker its pretty simple

Fukudome
02-22-2013, 09:56 AM
Comparing this Bulls roster to Cleveland's roster in the LeBron era is ridiculous. This Bulls roster, outside of Rose, is far and away better than anything Bron had to work with in Cleveland EVER.

koreancabbage
02-22-2013, 09:58 AM
There are 4 all star caliber starters including Rose lol, what more does he want?

And I wouldn't add a bunch more contracts while Rose is out with a major injury, that makes no sense

if Chicago was in the West, we won't be having this conversation. Deng and Noah are not all stars there. but we digress - Deng and Noah are complimentary players. they won't take over a game for you nor win you a 7 game series by themselves (nor is Boozer) - bunch of good hardworking complimentary players at the end of the day and complimentary players help you but they aren't going to win a championship for you in this era.

Rose definitely needs someone else.

BALLER R
02-22-2013, 10:02 AM
Wouldn`t be surprised if his brother is just echoing what Derrick says. In public Rose is not going to admit to saying stuff like this. He`s not the kind of person to call them out like that. That`s my manager and my brother and he went public with this and me and him didn`t even talk about it.

Come on guys you gotta be smarter than that to think his brother has no influence on him at all.

Mitch Kramer
02-22-2013, 10:06 AM
Comparing this Bulls roster to Cleveland's roster in the LeBron era is ridiculous. This Bulls roster, outside of Rose, is far and away better than anything Bron had to work with in Cleveland EVER.

I think its more comparing situations, than the rosters themselves. Cleveland didnt do enough to help Lebron win there. Now the Bulls, while they have a better roster than Cleveland did, still arent doing what they need to do to help Derrick and the Bulls get past the Heat. Last night was a great example of the disparity between the two teams.

Fukudome
02-22-2013, 10:11 AM
Superstars/Allstars don't grow on trees, there's a reason they're stars...and that's because they're better than a majority of the league. It's not easy to just go out and get one. If that were the case, I'm sure they would have by now.

That being said, I don't think the Bulls can win the Finals yet, maybe a player short, but that doesn't mean that they have failed to put talent around Rose.

EDIT: Last night, the Bulls may have looked overmatched, but earlier in the season, that same team beat the Heat. The talent is there.

Uncbball234
02-22-2013, 10:27 AM
Superstars/Allstars don't grow on trees, there's a reason they're stars...and that's because they're better than a majority of the league. It's not easy to just go out and get one. If that were the case, I'm sure they would have by now.

That being said, I don't think the Bulls can win the Finals yet, maybe a player short, but that doesn't mean that they have failed to put talent around Rose.

EDIT: Last night, the Bulls may have looked overmatched, but earlier in the season, that same team beat the Heat. The talent is there.

There's a big difference between playoff and regular season bball. The Bulls can't beat the Heat then the best team from the West 8 out of 14 times.

Uncbball234
02-22-2013, 10:28 AM
Wouldn`t be surprised if his brother is just echoing what Derrick says. In public Rose is not going to admit to saying stuff like this. He`s not the kind of person to call them out like that. That`s my manager and my brother and he went public with this and me and him didn`t even talk about it.

Come on guys you gotta be smarter than that to think his brother has no influence on him at all.

This^^^

His brother is very close to him.

Chronz
02-22-2013, 10:29 AM
Arent Bulls paying the tax for the first time in years?

Fukudome
02-22-2013, 10:30 AM
There's a big difference between playoff and regular season bball. The Bulls can't beat the Heat then the best team from the West 8 out of 14 times.

In the post you quoted, I said they couldn't win the finals yet. I wasn't arguing that they can beat the Heat in a playoff series. All I said is that using one game to show a disparity in a talent isn't a great argument and that there really is a decent amount of talent around Rose.

Fukudome
02-22-2013, 10:31 AM
Arent Bulls paying the tax for the first time in years?

Correct. I want to say it's the first time EVER, not sure though.

Chronz
02-22-2013, 10:46 AM
LOL most star players would kill for a team to do as good as the Bulls have without their star. Granted its not on the level of Durant's supporting cast but its still among the best in the game.

What did he want the Bulls to do anyways? Cant force other teams to trade their best players.

Muttman73
02-22-2013, 11:08 AM
Just more nonsense

ChiSox219
02-22-2013, 02:07 PM
LOL most star players would kill for a team to do as good as the Bulls have without their star. Granted its not on the level of Durant's supporting cast but its still among the best in the game.

What did he want the Bulls to do anyways? Cant force other teams to trade their best players.

The Bulls had two options this offseason; rebuild or reload. Instead they took half measures in order to avoid paying the tax and they couldnt even do that. The Hinrich signing was brutal, not only did they give twice the money he's worth but they used their MLE to do so instead of a S&T. To top things off they gave him two years guaranteed. That money could have been used on a big the Bulls desperately need.

I understand and agree with Reggie that the Bulls should be doing more.


if Chicago was in the West, we won't be having this conversation. Deng and Noah are not all stars there. but we digress - Deng and Noah are complimentary players. they won't take over a game for you nor win you a 7 game series by themselves (nor is Boozer) - bunch of good hardworking complimentary players at the end of the day and complimentary players help you but they aren't going to win a championship for you in this era.

Rose definitely needs someone else.

+1

MassoDio
02-22-2013, 02:14 PM
LOL most star players would kill for a team to do as good as the Bulls have without their star. Granted its not on the level of Durant's supporting cast but its still among the best in the game.

What did he want the Bulls to do anyways? Cant force other teams to trade their best players.

The bolded part is what most people don't get. (Bulls fans and other fans alike) People can talk all the crap about the front office that they like, but it takes two teams to make a trade. Both teams have to agree on the players they are sending out and getting back. Just because the Bulls haven't made any big trades, doesn't mean they haven't tried.

Who have the Bulls missed out on that they could have traded for, that they wouldn't have been screwed by what the other team was asking for, since Rose has been on the team? There aren't any.

Who is available via trade (without gutting the current Bulls roster) that would make the Bulls able to beat the Heat in a seven game series? There aren't any.

OceanSpray
02-22-2013, 02:16 PM
He is ********. Noah, Taj Gibson, Deng, Boozer, Hamilton. Those aren't scrubs.. Rose has a team that can make the playoffs without him. If he's complaining about that, he minus well have Rose sign with the Miami Heat. If LeBron had Rose's team during his stint years at Cleveland, they would win every game.

gotoHcarolina52
02-22-2013, 04:48 PM
You are aware he signed a long term contract with Chicago aren't you " bud" ? He can't go anywhere anytime soon even if he wanted to. You hear one thing posted on the internet so that makes it true right? It's obvious you know nothing about Rose or the Bulls organization. He's already made his " decision" on where he's going to be and is "taking his talents to Chicago" get a clue.

He's already making it known--through his brother because he'd rather not say it publicly and risk smearing his image--that he's unhappy with the way the team is being run. These are the first signs of metastasis. Something cancerous is brewing within the Bulls and it will soon lead to Rose's departure if Forman and Reinsdorf don't find a way to pair him with a second star. The fact that he may choose to sit out the season even if he's 100% healthy because he doesn't feel it would be in his best interests to play--he doesn't feel it would be worth his time to return in a season that might already be a lost cause--tells you all you need to know. Rose is disgruntled. He's tired of being the Bulls' lone warhorse. He needs help. He demands they get it for him or else he'll have no choice but to put his self-interest above that of the team.

Sure, Rose is from Chicago and leaving his hometown will not be easy, but the road out of town is already paved. LeBron showed him the way. Step 1 is complete--he's let the Bulls know where he stands through his brother. Step 2? Sit out the remainder of the season in protest. Step 3? Request a trade.

He gone.

Bartlee23
02-22-2013, 05:24 PM
He's already making it known--through his brother because he'd rather not say it publicly and risk smearing his image--that he's unhappy with the way the team is being run. These are the first signs of metastasis. Something cancerous is brewing within the Bulls and it will soon lead to Rose's departure if Forman and Reinsdorf don't find a way to pair him with a second star. The fact that he may choose to sit out the season even if he's 100% healthy because he doesn't feel it would be in his best interests to play--he doesn't feel it would be worth his time to return in a season that might already be a lost cause--tells you all you need to know. Rose is disgruntled. He's tired of being the Bulls' lone warhorse. He needs help. He demands they get it for him or else he'll have no choice but to put his self-interest above that of the team.

Sure, Rose is from Chicago and leaving his hometown will not be easy, but the road out of town is already paved. LeBron showed him the way. Step 1 is complete--he's let the Bulls know were he stands through his brother. Step 2? Sit out the remainder of the season in protest. Step 3? Request a trade.

He gone.

As others have said to you..... " Troll on" .... believe what you read but you really don't have a clue.

OceanSpray
02-22-2013, 05:25 PM
He's already making it known--through his brother because he'd rather not say it publicly and risk smearing his image--that he's unhappy with the way the team is being run. These are the first signs of metastasis. Something cancerous is brewing within the Bulls and it will soon lead to Rose's departure if Forman and Reinsdorf don't find a way to pair him with a second star. The fact that he may choose to sit out the season even if he's 100% healthy because he doesn't feel it would be in his best interests to play--he doesn't feel it would be worth his time to return in a season that might already be a lost cause--tells you all you need to know. Rose is disgruntled. He's tired of being the Bulls' lone warhorse. He needs help. He demands they get it for him or else he'll have no choice but to put his self-interest above that of the team.

Sure, Rose is from Chicago and leaving his hometown will not be easy, but the road out of town is already paved. LeBron showed him the way. Step 1 is complete--he's let the Bulls know were he stands through his brother. Step 2? Sit out the remainder of the season in protest. Step 3? Request a trade.

He gone.

Sounds reasonable.. Yet how much is true? Rose or his brother both need to stop complaining. Look at LeBron.. Never complained but he had the crappiest roster on his team. Noah, Boozer, Deng, Taj Gibson, Hamilton? LeBron wouldn't have left Cleveland if that was his team. When your team can make it to the playoffs without you playing a single game, you shouldn't be complaining. No one forced Rose to get injured; he forced a terrible shot in a meaningless game.

Bartlee23
02-22-2013, 05:26 PM
The bolded part is what most people don't get. (Bulls fans and other fans alike) People can talk all the crap about the front office that they like, but it takes two teams to make a trade. Both teams have to agree on the players they are sending out and getting back. Just because the Bulls haven't made any big trades, doesn't mean they haven't tried.

Who have the Bulls missed out on that they could have traded for, that they wouldn't have been screwed by what the other team was asking for, since Rose has been on the team? There aren't any.

Who is available via trade (without gutting the current Bulls roster) that would make the Bulls able to beat the Heat in a seven game series? There aren't any.

+1.... very well said.

Bartlee23
02-22-2013, 05:31 PM
He is ********. Noah, Taj Gibson, Deng, Boozer, Hamilton. Those aren't scrubs.. Rose has a team that can make the playoffs without him. If he's complaining about that, he minus well have Rose sign with the Miami Heat. If LeBron had Rose's team during his stint years at Cleveland, they would win every game.

I agree with you that he shouldn't complain with what he's got, the problem is he hasn't. All we have is quotes from his brother/agent who may be showing some frustration as not only an agent/brother but a fan. Chicago has some very good pieces in place to do well now and in the future. Rose is not a showboater and is very loyal to his team and city. Again his family and friends are here and this is where he wants to establish hmself as a winner. Time will tell but he's not going anywhere. I also agree with you that if Lebron would of had the same team Cleveland would have won championships.