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Chronz
02-16-2013, 03:24 PM
Makes making a decision on his impending free agency abit trickier now that hes starting to play well again.

Corey
02-16-2013, 03:27 PM
Last 10 games:

15/3/3 on 53% shooting (.125 from 3pt), 67% from FT

Chronz
02-16-2013, 03:43 PM
15.9-4.9-3.2 51FG%-.36(3P%) with 5FT a game in 32.2MPG over his last 19 games. 50% shooting over your last 20 games is pretty impressive.

Hes still an inconsistent shooter but its good to see him not regressing anymore.

LAKobeBryant
02-16-2013, 03:44 PM
he needs to be traded. his career is dying there.

akesh99
02-16-2013, 03:50 PM
He has been playing well but a change of scenery is still necessary IMO for him to take the next step

Celticsfan2007
02-16-2013, 03:51 PM
Unfortunately his rookie year set the bar much to high in terms of expectations for this guy. He's an inconsistent shooter who has an excellent game when driving to the rim and passes fairly well. I don't see him developing past where he is at right now, though.

Sadds The Gr8
02-16-2013, 03:59 PM
I haven't seen much Kings this year but I randomly looked up his #s the other day and was surprised

xxplayerxx23
02-16-2013, 04:03 PM
He is solid. He needs to go to a different team.

RLundi
02-16-2013, 04:11 PM
Not really to be honest.

Blitzbolt
02-16-2013, 04:28 PM
Saw him Tuesday and he was on fire and vs Tony Allen he was very Harden like.

Hawkeye15
02-16-2013, 04:29 PM
he needs a new situation. The Kings team has just been such a mess that past 4 years. Poor coaching, players with attitude, and the imminent threat of moving the team. Not the most stable environment to develop young players.

Hawkeye15
02-16-2013, 04:30 PM
Saw him Tuesday and he was on fire and vs Tony Allen he was very Harden like.

but he is on a losing team, so those stats were meaningless and hollow....

Blitzbolt
02-16-2013, 04:35 PM
but he is on a losing team, so those stats were meaningless and hollow....Very true but better then Rubio and the wolves who I saw on Sunday now that was sad.

Sadds The Gr8
02-16-2013, 04:39 PM
Saw him Tuesday and he was on fire and vs Tony Allen he was very Harden like.

he basically is harden w/o the shot and ball IQ imo.

TyrionLannister
02-16-2013, 04:59 PM
I think he can excel in a Jamal Crawford-esque sixth-man spark role, but unfortunately the MJ/Oscar/LeBron rookie stats pretty much were way too high of expectations.

tapajafri
02-16-2013, 05:18 PM
Both Cousins and Evans would become stars on a team with better coaching and better vet leaders to show them the ropes. The kings are actually pretty stacked with young talent and potential on paper.

Cousins, Thompson, Evans, Aaron Brooks, Isaiah Thomas, Jimmer, Thornton, Salmons, and Thomas Robinson. That's a lot of talent and all young with the exception of Salmons. They could be pretty good with better coaching and some better veterans.

Alayla
02-16-2013, 07:52 PM
Both Cousins and Evans would become stars on a team with better coaching and better vet leaders to show them the ropes. The kings are actually pretty stacked with young talent and potential on paper.

Cousins, Thompson, Evans, Aaron Brooks, Isaiah Thomas, Jimmer, Thornton, Salmons, and Thomas Robinson. That's a lot of talent and all young with the exception of Salmons. They could be pretty good with better coaching and some better veterans.

Ya on paper they look like they could be a Contender soon but as the lakers proved Paper only means so much.

rockbottom2010
02-16-2013, 08:21 PM
tyreke evans is a craazy player.....hes only 23/24....if things go smoothly...he'll be an all star after 25...he has superstar potential

tmacsc2
02-16-2013, 08:23 PM
He isn't anywhere near his rookie year of AVERAGING 20-5-5

GREATNESS ONE
02-16-2013, 08:39 PM
Would love to have him come off our bench....

KnicksorBust
02-16-2013, 09:50 PM
Makes making a decision on his impending free agency abit trickier now that hes starting to play well again.

I'm still holding out some hope that he turns it around... http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?778899-Name-3-players-you-believe-have-superstar-potential-and-are-being-held-back&p=24283955#post24283955

He can still attack the rim like very few in the league.

Sactown
02-16-2013, 09:51 PM
He's actually much improved since his rookie season.

Chronz
02-17-2013, 12:31 AM
Not really to be honest.
How so?

Chronz
02-17-2013, 12:33 AM
He isn't anywhere near his rookie year of AVERAGING 20-5-5

Hes not playing the same amount of minutes but his play on the court has improved

LeonFSU
02-17-2013, 02:50 AM
Orlando should try to trade for him

zn23
02-17-2013, 04:56 AM
I think he can excel in a Jamal Crawford-esque sixth-man spark role, but unfortunately the MJ/Oscar/LeBron rookie stats pretty much were way too high of expectations.

20-5-5 is an arbitrary milestone

tapajafri
02-17-2013, 06:27 PM
Ya on paper they look like they could be a Contender soon but as the lakers proved Paper only means so much.

yeah but the lakers is different in the sense that they have some selfish players that cant co-exist... the kings on the other hand, just lack some proper leadership and coaching.

KnicksorBust
02-17-2013, 06:58 PM
Orlando should try to trade for him

How does Evans-Afflalo work much better than Evans-Thornton? Don't really see the fit there...


20-5-5 is an arbitrary milestone
Would love to know what milestone is not "arbitrary" ? Considering how few players would able to achieve that milestone, I think it's safe to say it's a pretty damn good one.

KnicksorBust
02-17-2013, 07:01 PM
Just looked over some rosters. Maybe Millsap for Tyreke Evans could work as well. Let Evans run the show surrounded by shooters (Hayward-Mo-Foye) and talented bigs (Al Jeff-Favors-Kanter). Could be a long-term recipe for success...

mdm692
02-17-2013, 07:29 PM
I wonder how long it takes before the "Suns interested in Evans, Cousins" rumors begin.

monty77
02-18-2013, 07:10 AM
I like this man. It's a pity that Evans and Cousins aren't focused because they are very talented players. Both of them are star caliber player and Kings could be a playoff team if they would be accompanied by proper, veteran players.

Evans is along with Mayo, the most underrated guard in the league. They have two things in common: 1) Both of them are scorer but not shooter. 2) Both of them reached a high level as rookie but didn't progress in next seasons.

As Bulls fan, I would love to see either of him playing with Derrick Rose because he need a SG who can handle the ball and score, like Belinelli does. It's a fact that Evans would be sold if Kings received a good offer, but any team dares to do it because of his lack of maturity as basketball player.

When he was rookie of the year everybody though that he would be a great player. Years passed and he maybe hasn't progressed to the best, but in the current NBA, he is one of the best five SG without any doubt. If we ignore Kobe Bryant and Harden, there aren't brilliant SG around the league.

sventhedog
02-18-2013, 09:09 AM
so he's back on track, but he is supposed to improve as he gets more experience.

Corey
02-18-2013, 05:55 PM
Just looked over some rosters. Maybe Millsap for Tyreke Evans could work as well. Let Evans run the show surrounded by shooters (Hayward-Mo-Foye) and talented bigs (Al Jeff-Favors-Kanter). Could be a long-term recipe for success...

I'd think the Jazz would want more than Evans for Millsap.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel Millsap is a good deal more valuable.

IndyRealist
02-18-2013, 06:36 PM
so he's back on track, but he is supposed to improve as he gets more experience.

this.

Quinnsanity
02-18-2013, 07:07 PM
I feel like Phoenix would be a good fit. They need someone who can be a star and he needs a fresh start.

LeonFSU
02-19-2013, 01:28 AM
How does Evans-Afflalo work much better than Evans-Thornton? Don't really see the fit there...

So you're comparing Afflalo to Thornton? Because they don't play alike at all. And Thornton is a ball dominant guard. Afflalo could play some 3.

But it really has nothing to do with Afflalo since I don't think the Magic necessarily view him as a core piece anyway.

It comes down to Evans being a guard who can create and score which Orlando doesn't have. Don't really understand how you can't see a team like Orlando, who has little to no building blocks for the future, as a fit.

ThaDubs
02-19-2013, 01:43 AM
Per 36 he's doing better than the last few seasons but he definitely needs a change of scenery.

hyphy king 88
02-19-2013, 02:03 AM
It would be like a change of scenery once the Kings get new ownership.

jerellh528
02-19-2013, 06:03 AM
no

KnicksorBust
02-19-2013, 08:20 PM
I'd think the Jazz would want more than Evans for Millsap.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel Millsap is a good deal more valuable.

With these Millsap/Bledsoe rumors floating around, Millsap looking to cash in with FA, and the Jazz with two lottery pick bigmen waiting in the wings... I don't really think he can get much better value.


So you're comparing Afflalo to Thornton? Because they don't play alike at all. And Thornton is a ball dominant guard. Afflalo could play some 3.

But it really has nothing to do with Afflalo since I don't think the Magic necessarily view him as a core piece anyway.

It comes down to Evans being a guard who can create and score which Orlando doesn't have. Don't really understand how you can't see a team like Orlando, who has little to no building blocks for the future, as a fit.

Yes it's an obvious comparison:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=afflaar01&y1=2013&p2=thornma01&y2=2013

Afflalo = 6'5 ft / 215 lbs / SG
PER - 13.1 / TS% - 53% / TRB% - 6% / AST% - 13% / TOV% - 12% / USG - 22% / WS/48 - 0.052

Thornton = 6'4 ft / 205 lbs / SG
PER - 14.1 / TS% - 52% / TRB% - 6% / AST% - 8% / TOV% - 8% / USG - 23% / WS/48 - 0.056

They have virtually identical usage rates and shooting effeciency skills. They round at the same rate. Afflalo assists more but is more turnover prone. They are a similar size and play the same position. What a wild lunatic I am for comparing them. :laugh:

And Afflalo was the best player in the Howard deal and he plays the same position as Evans. That's why its clearly a bad fit.

ryder78c
02-19-2013, 08:48 PM
he needs to be traded. his career is dying there.

no need to worry if he resigns there he'll be in Seattle
portland needs him though and i think they make a push to make Evans there Harden next year

LeonFSU
02-19-2013, 11:28 PM
Yes it's an obvious comparison:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=afflaar01&y1=2013&p2=thornma01&y2=2013

Afflalo = 6'5 ft / 215 lbs / SG
PER - 13.1 / TS% - 53% / TRB% - 6% / AST% - 13% / TOV% - 12% / USG - 22% / WS/48 - 0.052

Thornton = 6'4 ft / 205 lbs / SG
PER - 14.1 / TS% - 52% / TRB% - 6% / AST% - 8% / TOV% - 8% / USG - 23% / WS/48 - 0.056

They have virtually identical usage rates and shooting effeciency skills. They round at the same rate. Afflalo assists more but is more turnover prone. They are a similar size and play the same position. What a wild lunatic I am for comparing them. :laugh:

And Afflalo was the best player in the Howard deal and he plays the same position as Evans. That's why its clearly a bad fit.

I'm not saying you are a lunatic, but you clearly have either seen one or neither of them play. I'm not basing the comparison on their stats; they just have a different style of play. It's obvious.

And as for your second argument? Its clearly a bad fit because the Magic have Afflalo who they could turn around and trade for someone else? What makes you think the Magic are building around Afflalo? There was nothing out there to get back for Howard. They just tried to get assets not necessarily players they expect to be a part of their future team. There is nobody untouchable on the Magic roster.