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DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 12:29 AM
Netsdaily
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/2/14/3990622/stephen-a-smith-howard-still-thinks-hes-going-to-be-in-brooklyn

SAS: "I had a reliable source tell me this...Dwight Howard will categorically deny it, but i trust my source...when they were playing Toronto recently, he sat there on the court and told Rudy Gay, 'You messed up bad man. You should have waited and ended up with me in Brooklyn next year. That's what he told him.

"Now, here's the problem. He doesn't determine that. He can't force his way to Brooklyn, can't pull that off. You gotta remember, the way the rules are stipulated now, you understand, the reality of the situation is that with the Nets, he had his chance. Now, if they want to let go of Brook Lopez, and they're able to unload Kris Humphries, you know,
things of that nature, something could happen. But the Nets have to be willing to capitulate and the Lakers have to be convinced he's definitely going to leave. They've got less than a week. You know trading deadline is rapidly approaching. It's February 21. It's a problem!

"But I'm just telling you...

RR: "He's still saying that? He's still thinks he's going to Brooklyn?"

SAS: "He still believes it."

RR: "Is he delusional or does he...is someone telling him that..."

SAS: "Yes, he does. It's not that it's impossible. It's that he doesn't have the right to dictate anything. Now, he's got an exceptional agent in Dan Fegan, that can make some maneuvers but if Dan Fegan had his way, he would have been in Brooklyn last year. You got to remember when he opted in, to stay in Orlando, he did that behind Dan Fegan's back."

RR: "Dan was not happy about that, I would imagine."

SAS: "Now, Otis Smith, the former general manager for the Orlando Magic ... Understand that Otis Smith didn't like back-door Dwight Howard or anything. When Dwight Howard came to him after they lost to San Antonio that Tuesday night, Otis Smith said go ahead and think about it. Don't make a rash decision. He didn't back door him. He wasn't sleazy or anything like that. Dwight Howard came, spoke to people and obviously, pressure from the family because the dad ... the Orlando Magic organization did a phenomenal job of ingratiating itself with the Dwight Howard family. The father did not want him to leave, did not want him to leave. I'm telling you, I know what I'm saying. I met the father, I talked to the father. Father don't rate particularly fond of me. You understand because I looked him in the face told him where I stood on the matter ... He wanted his son to remain in Orlando.

"So my point is that when Dwight Howard opted in, he did it behind Fegan's back. Fegan had nothing to do with that."

RR: "Oh yeah, yeah, I know."

SAS: "So, if you could do it behind your agent's back once, you're very unpredictable...."

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 12:33 AM
Not shocked

KniCks4LiFe
02-15-2013, 12:33 AM
WTH? com'on now...SAS can't be chirping like that.

kntresistheheat
02-15-2013, 12:34 AM
I really hate DHoward.

KniCks4LiFe
02-15-2013, 12:36 AM
nah homie lost it mentally. That ship has come and gone.

Slug3
02-15-2013, 12:40 AM
If LA doesn't trade him will he take a vet min deal as a free agent? I mean anit sign and trades out the door now? I guess they could buy out a player to get under the cap

oak2455
02-15-2013, 12:41 AM
SAS = Failure

Captain Moroni
02-15-2013, 12:41 AM
Howard is a selfish over-rated cancer. Brooklyn does not need that headache.

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 12:42 AM
Any team can S&T him but he can only get the 5 year deal if LA S&Ts

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 12:43 AM
SAS = Failure

suprised you dont like him, he is a knick/yankee fan just like you

oak2455
02-15-2013, 12:46 AM
suprised you dont like him, he is a knick/yankee fan just like you

he spews trash and majority of his stories are made up

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 12:48 AM
he spews trash and majority of his stories are made up

well he has a job on ESPN im sure he has sources, you just choose not to believe them. because they arent what you want to hear

Slug3
02-15-2013, 12:48 AM
Any team can S&T him but he can only get the 5 year deal if LA S&Ts

I thought they took the sign and trades away? So they still have them but can only sign a 5 year and not a 6 year deal?

JEDean89
02-15-2013, 12:48 AM
SAS and Chriss Broussard are jokes. SAS is the Bill Oreilly of ESPN. That is not a compliment.

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 12:50 AM
I thought they took the sign and trades away? So they still have them but can only sign a 5 year and not a 6 year deal?

Nash was S&T to LA...

And i dont think there are 6 year deals anymore, I think the total max is 5

justinnum1
02-15-2013, 12:52 AM
if dwight went to mitch and said i am leaving in the summer, call billy and get lopez for me, i think they do that deal

Slug3
02-15-2013, 12:52 AM
Nash was S&T to LA...

And i dont think there are 6 year deals anymore, I think the total max is 5

I do know Nash was a sign and trade, but I thought this was the last year they were allowing the sign and trade. Again I could be wrong.

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 12:54 AM
Well the past week Dwight has still not given a commitment to the Lakers, and its the deadline. If he wanted to be a Laker I dont think he would say that stuff.He hasnt been getting a long with Kobe and the team is calling him out.

zB_#85
02-15-2013, 12:56 AM
I do know Nash was a sign and trade, but I thought this was the last year they were allowing the sign and trade. Again I could be wrong.

S&t will still be allowed just not to teams over the luxury (Nets and Lakers)

KniCks4LiFe
02-15-2013, 12:58 AM
suprised you dont like him, he is a knick/yankee fan just like you

SAS ain't no Yankees fan. Don't ever mention that again. He likes a player on the Yankees and then acts like he is one.

You want a true NBA source whistle blower that's what Jalen Rose is. SAS is propaganda.

showtym24
02-15-2013, 12:58 AM
Lmao, lakers have played the raptors once this season so far. And gay was a grizzly at the time. Poor SAS.

lakerskbp24
02-15-2013, 12:58 AM
Wait. How is this possible? The Rudy Gay trade took place on the 31st of January. And the Lakers haven't played in Toronto since then. The last time the Lakers played Toronto was on January 20th. Hmm.

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 12:59 AM
Yeah As much as people wanted to think Dwight would stay.... its obvious he wouldnt, he would have signed the extension immediately if that was the case

oak2455
02-15-2013, 12:59 AM
S&t will still be allowed just not to teams over the luxury (Nets and Lakers)

so how do the Nets get him

blahblahyoutoo
02-15-2013, 01:01 AM
If that rumoe is believed to be true, then Dwight is an idiot. Gay was traded.

Slug3
02-15-2013, 01:01 AM
so how do the Nets get him

In nba 2k and forcing trades.

zB_#85
02-15-2013, 01:02 AM
so how do the Nets get him

Before the trade deadline since that part of the new cba isnt in effect yet or he can't be traded for quite a while after he signs with Lakers. 1 year or something like that I think...

Metsboi69
02-15-2013, 01:02 AM
so how do the Nets get him

They'd either have to workout a trade before the deadline, or Dwight has to sign a veterans minimum deal. So yea.. it's not happening.

KniCks4LiFe
02-15-2013, 01:04 AM
If that rumoe is believed to be true, then Dwight is an idiot. Gay was traded.

It isn't. He's just trying to make his radio show sound better. I swear the worst thing that never happened was that Iverson nor Marbury had the cojones to punch that fool.

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 01:06 AM
It isn't. He's just trying to make his radio show sound better. I swear the worst thing that never happened was that Iverson nor Marbury had the cojones to punch that fool.

You mad Stephen A is a seeked out guy who intimidates players? and gets all the girls he wants. Stephen A is a playa no question

soundjunkies2
02-15-2013, 01:07 AM
I thought they took the sign and trades away? So they still have them but can only sign a 5 year and not a 6 year deal?

They're taking it away the Sign and trade for teams over the salary cap after this season. That's why the Lakers were able to do a sign in trade for Nash last summer because it wasn't in effect yet.

KniCks4LiFe
02-15-2013, 01:08 AM
You mad Stephen A is a seeked out guy who intimidates players? and gets all the girls he wants. Stephen A is a playa no question

I ain't mad at anything. I just don't care for liars that force their opinions as fact and then coward away.

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 01:08 AM
The new CBA made things so confusing -__-

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 01:10 AM
I ain't mad at anything. I just don't care for liars that force their opinions as fact and then coward away.

He has a show for a reason, he talks to executives and players all the time. ESPN hired him. He def knows what he is talking about.

oak2455
02-15-2013, 01:12 AM
In nba 2k and forcing trades.


Before the trade deadline since that part of the new cba isnt in effect yet or he can't be traded for quite a while after he signs with Lakers. 1 year or something like that I think...


They'd either have to workout a trade before the deadline, or Dwight has to sign a veterans minimum deal. So yea.. it's not happening.

thanks guys so like I said SAS spewing garbage again

showtym24
02-15-2013, 01:13 AM
He has a show for a reason, he talks to executives and players all the time. ESPN hired him. He def knows what he is talking about.

Haha, keep telling yourself that.

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 01:15 AM
I dont think Howard ends up in Brooklyn, nor will he stay in LA, my prediction which was my prediction for a while is Atlanta

oak2455
02-15-2013, 01:17 AM
Skip Bayless is on TV guess he knows his stuff too :laugh: also remember SAS was fired before from ESPN........#CLOWNAGE

oak2455
02-15-2013, 01:18 AM
I dont think Howard ends up in Brooklyn, nor will he stay in LA, my prediction which was my prediction for a while is Atlanta

Houston is a darkhorse

JNoel
02-15-2013, 01:20 AM
Dwightmare 2.0

Laker fans will be more satisfied with Brook Lopez anyways ;)

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 01:20 AM
Houston is a darkhorse

They are fine financially?

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 01:23 AM
Its pretty obvious Dwight doesnt want to be in LA, he wants only the Nets. I dont blame him we are a hell of a franchise. But we have to see how it works out. Brook is playing like the best c in the league, maybe Dwight will take a paycut this summer to join us.

Gideon
02-15-2013, 01:24 AM
If I'm the Nets I would just hold onto Lopez. Howard now has injury concerns, needs an attitude adjustment, and will cost more. DoMeFavors, weren't you the guy who said Lopez was better than Howard yet now you want him instead?

LoveMeOrHateMe
02-15-2013, 01:25 AM
SAS is full of ****

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 01:27 AM
If I'm the Nets I would just hold onto Lopez. Howard now has injury concerns, needs an attitude adjustment, and will cost more. DoMeFavors, weren't you the guy who said Lopez was better than Howard yet now you want him instead?

When did I say I wanted him? I just posted the article

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 01:36 AM
The Nets are a helluva franchise? What?

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
02-15-2013, 01:36 AM
Doesn't the fact that Lakers have not played raptors since before they got Rudy gay immediately make this all BS? And honestly why would he even say that to Rudy gay? To where someone else could hear him? Its just to far fetched lol

I say he walks to Houston in off season ...

oak2455
02-15-2013, 01:37 AM
NBA forum :facepalm:

oak2455
02-15-2013, 01:38 AM
The Nets are a helluva franchise? What?

yup and I'm the Yankees starting center fielder this year

oak2455
02-15-2013, 01:39 AM
They are fine financially?

I think they are:confused:

Gideon
02-15-2013, 01:39 AM
When did I say I wanted him? I just posted the article

So who do you want Howard or Lopez? Cause from the sound of your responses you prefer Howard.

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 01:42 AM
So who do you want Howard or Lopez? Cause from the sound of your responses you prefer Howard.

I would take Howard if he wants to take a paycut and play along with Brook. Best tangem since David and Tim in 99

DallasTrilla23
02-15-2013, 01:43 AM
wow, I just don't see the lakers taking Brook Lopez, maybe if they can flip brook into a nice package but even then, the lakers are in win now mode, they want a star.

mdm692
02-15-2013, 01:43 AM
I would take Howard if he wants to take a paycut and play along with Brook. Best tangem since David and Tim in 99

:laugh:.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
02-15-2013, 01:43 AM
Won't happen ... he ain't taking the min ...that's why he will end up in Houston

Gideon
02-15-2013, 01:45 AM
I would take Howard if he wants to take a paycut and play along with Brook. Best tangem since David and Tim in 99

Now that's funny! Even you need to know your dreaming!

knicks=love
02-15-2013, 01:45 AM
anyone else not surprised that DMF posted this? or is it just me?

oak2455
02-15-2013, 01:46 AM
he's now taking the min..........................this just in union say NO WAY

Hawkeye15
02-15-2013, 01:48 AM
good for Dwight. Unfortunately, he needs to understand its not that easy. However, he proved to be such a vagina the last 18 months, I don't know, nor care, what to expect of him.

TrueFan420
02-15-2013, 01:49 AM
Could he sign a vet min for 1 year then once signed, I'm sure he'd have to wait a time period, sign an extension mid season for his real worth seeing as the club can go over the cap to resign their own?

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 01:49 AM
wow, I just don't see the lakers taking Brook Lopez, maybe if they can flip brook into a nice package but even then, the lakers are in win now mode, they want a star.

Brook was an allstar this season

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 01:52 AM
Dwight is bad for teams

markh42
02-15-2013, 01:57 AM
I would take Howard if he wants to take a paycut and play along with Brook. Best tangem since David and Tim in 99

Dude you are on drugs if you think that Howard and Lopez would be even half the tandem Duncan and the admiral were

oak2455
02-15-2013, 02:06 AM
Dude you are on drugs if you think that Howard and Lopez would be even half the tandem Duncan and the admiral were

don't bother your wasting your typing

markh42
02-15-2013, 02:13 AM
This guy is out of his bird

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-15-2013, 02:16 AM
The Lakers played the Raptors when Gay was on the team???? That's news to everyone including Rudy lol. where did you get this from the bleacher Report?

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 02:21 AM
The Lakers played the Raptors when Gay was on the team???? That's news to everyone including Rudy lol. where did you get this from the bleacher Report?

That is about as relevant as Dwights time in LA... ;)

Haeloine
02-15-2013, 02:24 AM
If he dont wanna stay in LA, he can go.. Im expecting a drought in LA's championships in the next few years anyway..

JOhnnyTHaJet
02-15-2013, 02:29 AM
God I hate this thread

KniCks4LiFe
02-15-2013, 02:36 AM
God I hate this thread

look who started it. :laugh2:

markh42
02-15-2013, 02:42 AM
Who is the miss Nike bunny

KniCks4LiFe
02-15-2013, 02:50 AM
Who is the miss Nike bunny

Francesca Frigo. :cool:

sunsfan88
02-15-2013, 02:53 AM
It's funny that people don't think Brooklyn can still sign Howard even with Lopez and Humpries still on the roster.

The Nets owner does not care one bit about spending. He laughs at "luxury taxes". He thinks it's cute that it stops other owners from spending too much.

If the Nets don't get Dwight, it won't be because of salary cap reasons. It will be cause either Dwight didn't wanna go there or cause the Nets are satisfied with Lopez & don't want his drama in Brooklyn.

lakerboy
02-15-2013, 02:54 AM
It's funny that people don't think Brooklyn can still sign Howard even with Lopez and Humpries still on the roster.

The Nets owner does not care one bit about spending. He laughs at "luxury taxes". He thinks it's cute that it stops other owners from spending too much.

If the Nets don't get Dwight, it won't be because of salary cap reasons. It will be cause either Dwight didn't wanna go there or cause the Nets are satisfied with Lopez & don't want his drama in Brooklyn.

What's funny is that you don't think you understand the salary cap pretty well. If you are over the cap, even if you are willing to pay more, you WONT be able to sign anybody outside the MLE and below.

"Luxury taxes" are different from salary cap, son.

Robert Sarver, is this you?

DLCK
02-15-2013, 02:55 AM
Its hilarious that the OP ignores the fact that many posters have pointed out that gay wasnt even on the team when the lakers played them. Or the fact that no other media outlet including steven a smiths employer espn is running out as news. Its funny all these conspiracy theorys about dwight are always coming out brooklyn media.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-15-2013, 02:55 AM
That is about as relevant as Dwights time in LA... ;)

Id say its pretty relavent since the entire article is based on what Dwight supposedly told a player who was thousands of miles away. If that part is not true and its a fact that its not true, how is this thread still open?

Vinny642
02-15-2013, 02:57 AM
Id say its pretty relavent since the entire article is based on what Dwight supposedly told a player who was thousands of miles away. If that part is not true and its a fact that its not true, how is this thread still open?

Actually his time is pretty irrelevant if the Lakers dont win, which its looking like they wont even sniff the playoffs with that super team... lol

Losoway
02-15-2013, 03:04 AM
i believe stephen a smith. he did report lebron was going to miami a few days before he announced it

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-15-2013, 03:04 AM
Actually his time is pretty irrelevant if the Lakers dont win, which its looking like they wont even sniff the playoffs with that super team... lol
Okay........

MelanconMadness
02-15-2013, 03:16 AM
Lol at dmf thinking Howard, the same guy who has forced his way out of Orlando, and will soon force his way out of LA, will "take less money to play alongside Lopez".


Now here's the raptors lineup the last time the lakers played the raptors. Now I don't see Rudy gay there, but I did see his name on the Memphis grizzlies roster on January 21st, the following night. Now DMF, prove how this is a true SAS report now
.
Toronto Raptors

Ed Davis, PF
Landry Fields, SF
Aaron Gray, C
Jose Calderon, PG
DeMar DeRozan, SG

Amir Johnson, PF
Quincy Acy, SF
Kyle Lowry, PG
Alan Anderson, SG
Terrence Ross, SG
Mickael Pietrus, SF
Linas Kleiza, SF
John Lucas, PG

Knicks21
02-15-2013, 03:16 AM
Well the past week Dwight has still not given a commitment to the Lakers, and its the deadline. If he wanted to be a Laker I dont think he would say that stuff.He hasnt been getting a long with Kobe and the team is calling him out.

Because he is a *****.

Knicks21
02-15-2013, 03:18 AM
It's funny that people don't think Brooklyn can still sign Howard even with Lopez and Humpries still on the roster.

The Nets owner does not care one bit about spending. He laughs at "luxury taxes". He thinks it's cute that it stops other owners from spending too much.

If the Nets don't get Dwight, it won't be because of salary cap reasons. It will be cause either Dwight didn't wanna go there or cause the Nets are satisfied with Lopez & don't want his drama in Brooklyn.

Dafuq did i just read?

Monta is beast
02-15-2013, 03:19 AM
He could have came to Golden State and been a G, but na.

Dade County
02-15-2013, 03:23 AM
And let it begin... Every other week their will be a Howard rumor.

Mods can you just create a Howard thread now?!

maddBat
02-15-2013, 03:37 AM
hope not. dwill is having a pretty bad year. howards isnt much better. seems like a disaster waiting to happen if they team up.

JasonJohnHorn
02-15-2013, 03:49 AM
Well the debacle that is the Laker's season, I would not be surprised to see Dwight in BK before Feb. 21st, or do a sing-and-trade in the offseason.


If the Lakers were smart, they'd called up BK and try and swing Lopez and Humphries. They need a PF, and I think Lopez might actually fit better in 'Antoni's system.

JOhnnyTHaJet
02-15-2013, 03:52 AM
hope not. dwill is having a pretty bad year. howards isnt much better. seems like a disaster waiting to happen if they team up.

I actually think the PnR with Dwight and Deron could be deadly, but I dont want to give up on Brook.

beliges
02-15-2013, 03:53 AM
Dwight is seriously very overrated. Its not gonna hurt the Lakers anymore than they're hurting with Dwight if he doesn't re-sign in LA.. I'm not convinced him goin to the nets or staying in LA will impact the league too much.

Punk
02-15-2013, 04:17 AM
so how do the Nets get him

A S&T. The Nets could trade Humphries as a salary dump this year and get under the tax threshold I believe for a S&T.

JEDean89
02-15-2013, 05:48 AM
lol if anyone thinks the nets will have deron williams, joe johnson, gerald wallace, dwight howard, brook lopez as their starting 5. It's funyn because that's pretty much on paper the same quality as the Lakers but come on. deron and joe at 20 each, gerald at 10 the brook and dwight at 20 each, that's a 90 million dollar roster and will be 100 million soon. still, i think dwight signs in LA and he and kobe figure it out. no way the lakers do a humphries for fricking howard trade and no way any team takes on joe johnson's contract or the nets trade deron williams.

Cal827
02-15-2013, 05:56 AM
Lmao, lakers have played the raptors once this season so far. And gay was a grizzly at the time. Poor SAS.

Beat me to it. Rudy Gay wasn't a Raptor when LA was in Toronto. So Unless Rudy Gay was randomly playing hookey from Grizzlies Practice to take a stroll on the ACC court before the game, this seems like bull.

thenaj17
02-15-2013, 06:35 AM
Nash was S&T to LA...

And i dont think there are 6 year deals anymore, I think the total max is 5

Nash S&T was before the bargaining agreement came in

MagicBucsSox
02-15-2013, 06:52 AM
SAS = Failure

Lol of course a successful multi millionaire is a failure, where do u work?

eso
02-15-2013, 06:54 AM
As a Lakers fan I hope Dwight gets healthy and stays, but if this report is true it shows what is wrong with the spoilt brats of the NBA today..

eso
02-15-2013, 06:54 AM
Lol of course a successful multi millionaire is a failure, where do u work?
Is he really worth that much???

oak2455
02-15-2013, 08:14 AM
Lol of course a successful multi millionaire is a failure, where do u work?

do some research SAS is not anything near what you think.... Lmfaoooooooo

ichitownclowni
02-15-2013, 08:35 AM
Dwight Howard is a moron:facepalm:

rockbottom2010
02-15-2013, 08:57 AM
brook lopez's value went up....this summer it mite be lopez, humphries, brooks and a 1st rounder for howard and a 2nd rounder...the lakers need young blood in that team....and i wouldn't be surprised if the nets go after j-smoove...

williams
johnson
wallace
j-smoove
howard

i could see this happening.....mp is not shy went it comes to spending....and they would be competing with the heat night in and night out

yet again, i could be wrong...who knows what will happen....

hugepatsfan
02-15-2013, 09:05 AM
^ That team wouldn't compete with the Heat. Terrible outside shooting.

And I don't think LA would even make that deal. They're the ****ing Lakers - they can land a star with cap room. If Dwight walks, LA is just going to save cap room for the next superstar FA and he'll most likely sign there.

onlythisfar41
02-15-2013, 09:12 AM
Aaaaannnnnndddddddddddd Mr. Favors strikes again. God the NBA forum sucks, its a blackhole to anything that is related to intelligence. It all just gets sucked into a deep never ending vortex of stupidity and delusion.

Jroz
02-15-2013, 09:16 AM
well he has a job on ESPN im sure he has sources, you just choose not to believe them. because they arent what you want to hear

If you had a choice at this point, the way things are going and how both players are performing..would you still want DHoward over Lopez?

nycericanguy
02-15-2013, 09:51 AM
A S&T. The Nets could trade Humphries as a salary dump this year and get under the tax threshold I believe for a S&T.

Lakers can't do a S&T, they are a tax team and tax teams aren't allowed to S&T.

tnewkirk
02-15-2013, 10:20 AM
he wanted brooklyn from the beginning...

waveycrockett
02-15-2013, 10:48 AM
Lakers can't do a S&T, they are a tax team and tax teams aren't allowed to S&T.
The Lakers can do if a S&T if they are the one trading the player. The Tax team cannot be the one RECIEVING the player

ambisme56
02-15-2013, 10:50 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=bzlkxto


Nets get: Howard, Smith, Korver

Atlanta: Hump, Jordan Hill, Brooks, Shengelia, Nets 2013 First Rd Pick

Lakers: Lopez, Morrow, Teletovic

JiffyMix88
02-15-2013, 11:18 AM
You know whats really funny?

This article is posted as the headline of PSD but on ESPN(where SAS is employed) they don't have this article anywhere on the web page. Wonder y?

jmoney85
02-15-2013, 11:32 AM
I don't really give a **** about dwight howard but I laughed at knick fans disputing steven A's credibility... it's not like comes out every 5 minutes and spews BS

if this report was about dwight howard wanting the knicks I guarantee they would be calling SAS the best reporter in sports

yungincome
02-15-2013, 11:34 AM
Man I hate Dwight :facepalm: ....What a big effin baby...

jmoney85
02-15-2013, 11:34 AM
You know whats really funny?

This article is posted as the headline of PSD but on ESPN(where SAS is employed) they don't have this article anywhere on the web page. Wonder y?

conspiracy theorist

shep33
02-15-2013, 11:42 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=bzlkxto


Nets get: Howard, Smith, Korver

Atlanta: Hump, Jordan Hill, Brooks, Shengelia, Nets 2013 First Rd Pick

Lakers: Lopez, Morrow, Teletovic

I would rather let him walk for nothing

29$JerZ
02-15-2013, 11:42 AM
I actually think the PnR with Dwight and Deron could be deadly, but I dont want to give up on Brook.

Seeing as how Brooklyn is finally using him correctly and is cheaper than Dwight I don't blame you.
Having Deron/Joe J maxed out ain't helping though.

PleaseBeNice
02-15-2013, 11:54 AM
Howard-**** you

JiffyMix88
02-15-2013, 12:11 PM
conspiracy theorist

Nah, I was insinuating that even ESPN can't back up SAS laughable comments.

Bob_at_york
02-15-2013, 12:13 PM
I only read the first page so if somebody else has brought this up already than I apologize but SAS is either making it up or his source is wrong:

Netsdaily
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/2/14/3990622/stephen-a-smith-howard-still-thinks-hes-going-to-be-in-brooklyn

SAS: "I had a reliable source tell me this...Dwight Howard will categorically deny it, but i trust my source...when they were playing Toronto recently, he sat there on the court and told Rudy Gay, 'You messed up bad man. You should have waited and ended up with me in Brooklyn next year. That's what he told him.

Lakers last played Toronto on January 20th. Gay was traded to the Raptors 10 days later on January 30th. The origin of this story could not have happened.

RipCity32
02-15-2013, 12:28 PM
Howards going to have a mental breakdown eventually lol.

blahblahyoutoo
02-15-2013, 12:41 PM
Dude you are on drugs if you think that Howard and Lopez would be even half the tandem Duncan and the admiral were

well, he did say "since".
although I'd argue pau and bynum were better.

blahblahyoutoo
02-15-2013, 12:43 PM
Is he really worth that much???

$1M really isn't that much anymore.
I'd be more surprised if his net worth isn't more than $10M.

jmoney85
02-15-2013, 12:46 PM
I would rather let him walk for nothing

glad you're not the gm of the lakers

mexican dodger
02-15-2013, 12:47 PM
Lets trade him for brook lopez

jmoney85
02-15-2013, 12:48 PM
I only read the first page so if somebody else has brought this up already than I apologize but SAS is either making it up or his source is wrong:

Lakers last played Toronto on January 20th. Gay was traded to the Raptors 10 days later on January 30th. The origin of this story could not have happened.

I wonder why SAS hasn't been questioned on this

CityofTreez
02-15-2013, 01:04 PM
Shoulda, woulda, coulda...

Funny cause Deron Williams is a vagina too. If Howard landed in Brooklyn, they'll be dancing in the Dark!

NJ Raven
02-15-2013, 01:12 PM
Trade him for our fat PG that Kobe likes.

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 01:15 PM
Im sure SAS would risk his credibility just to throw out some crazy rumor that he made up in his mind. If he heard it he is going to say it. He is a professional he isnt just going to put out BS. Its true whether you like it or not, Dwight wants the Nets he hates the Lakers.

OceanSpray
02-15-2013, 01:25 PM
Dwight Howard is not signing with LAL next year, that's 100%

L@ker4Life
02-15-2013, 01:35 PM
Actually his time is pretty irrelevant if the Lakers dont win, which its looking like they wont even sniff the playoffs with that super team... lol

What are you talking about? Are you even reading what you're responding too? His time in LA very well may be irrelevant but the fact that Gay was still wearing a Griz jersey at the time is NOT since this whole story is based on the fact that they were together when LA played TOR.

On the subject itself, give me Brook. He can play better with Nash and with Gasol and he can spread the floor. Yes, he is a subpar defender for a center but I'd take him in a heartbeat if the Lakers are in Win now mode....Howard is done for the year. He needs an entire off season to rehab and try to get his explosiveness back. Not to mention his passion for the game.

Jays Claw
02-15-2013, 01:40 PM
Netsdaily
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/2/14/3990622/stephen-a-smith-howard-still-thinks-hes-going-to-be-in-brooklyn

SAS: "I had a reliable source tell me this...Dwight Howard will categorically deny it, but i trust my source...when they were playing Toronto recently, he sat there on the court and told Rudy Gay, 'You messed up bad man. You should have waited and ended up with me in Brooklyn next year. That's what he told him.

"Now, here's the problem. He doesn't determine that. He can't force his way to Brooklyn, can't pull that off. You gotta remember, the way the rules are stipulated now, you understand, the reality of the situation is that with the Nets, he had his chance. Now, if they want to let go of Brook Lopez, and they're able to unload Kris Humphries, you know,
things of that nature, something could happen. But the Nets have to be willing to capitulate and the Lakers have to be convinced he's definitely going to leave. They've got less than a week. You know trading deadline is rapidly approaching. It's February 21. It's a problem!

"But I'm just telling you...

RR: "He's still saying that? He's still thinks he's going to Brooklyn?"

SAS: "He still believes it."

RR: "Is he delusional or does he...is someone telling him that..."

SAS: "Yes, he does. It's not that it's impossible. It's that he doesn't have the right to dictate anything. Now, he's got an exceptional agent in Dan Fegan, that can make some maneuvers but if Dan Fegan had his way, he would have been in Brooklyn last year. You got to remember when he opted in, to stay in Orlando, he did that behind Dan Fegan's back."

RR: "Dan was not happy about that, I would imagine."

SAS: "Now, Otis Smith, the former general manager for the Orlando Magic ... Understand that Otis Smith didn't like back-door Dwight Howard or anything. When Dwight Howard came to him after they lost to San Antonio that Tuesday night, Otis Smith said go ahead and think about it. Don't make a rash decision. He didn't back door him. He wasn't sleazy or anything like that. Dwight Howard came, spoke to people and obviously, pressure from the family because the dad ... the Orlando Magic organization did a phenomenal job of ingratiating itself with the Dwight Howard family. The father did not want him to leave, did not want him to leave. I'm telling you, I know what I'm saying. I met the father, I talked to the father. Father don't rate particularly fond of me. You understand because I looked him in the face told him where I stood on the matter ... He wanted his son to remain in Orlando.

"So my point is that when Dwight Howard opted in, he did it behind Fegan's back. Fegan had nothing to do with that."

RR: "Oh yeah, yeah, I know."

SAS: "So, if you could do it behind your agent's back once, you're very unpredictable...."

Uhmm... Gay wasn't even with the Raptors when Dwight and the Lakers played us at home. How reliable is this source? I call horse****.

KnickaBocka.44
02-15-2013, 01:42 PM
The Lakers can do if a S&T if they are the one trading the player. The Tax team cannot be the one RECIEVING the player

They are both tax teams.

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 01:44 PM
I feel bad for Dwight he is in a situation where he is the best player on the team and Kobe wont pass the torch, the fans and players have turned on him. He deserves much better. Nets would treat him like the superstar he is.

OceanSpray
02-15-2013, 01:46 PM
C'mon, this source is obviously fake! Rudy Gay wasn't even a Raptor when LAL played them!

Pierzynski4Prez
02-15-2013, 01:48 PM
Only way I see this as being feasible is if Dwight signs a vet minimum deal for the max amount of years possible, due to Prokorov giving him a few hundred million in some off shore account.

KnickaBocka.44
02-15-2013, 01:50 PM
Im sure SAS would risk his credibility just to throw out some crazy rumor that he made up in his mind. If he heard it he is going to say it. He is a professional he isnt just going to put out BS. Its true whether you like it or not, Dwight wants the Nets he hates the Lakers.

So Dwight wants to be in Brooklyn but he never will be. Why is this relevant?

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 01:54 PM
So Dwight wants to be in Brooklyn but he never will be. Why is this relevant?

Why wont he EVER be? He has a good 10 years left in the league, and when Nets are still relevant and competing for titles in 10 years he will hop over here

KnickaBocka.44
02-15-2013, 02:05 PM
Why wont he EVER be? He has a good 10 years left in the league, and when Nets are still relevant and competing for titles in 10 years he will hop over here

10 years left? haha Not with the way his body has been acting up lately.

waveycrockett
02-15-2013, 02:06 PM
10 years left? haha Not with the way his body has been acting up lately.

There is nothing wrong with Dwight. He is tanking it over there.

KnickaBocka.44
02-15-2013, 02:08 PM
There is nothing wrong with Dwight. He is tanking it over there.

Exactly...That's a much more reasonable explanation. He is tanking it so he can end up somewhere that he doesn't want to be. You guys crack me up.

jmoney85
02-15-2013, 02:09 PM
10 years left? haha Not with the way his body has been acting up lately.

didn't knick fans say the same thing about lopez last year?

boateng
02-15-2013, 02:11 PM
Hahah Go Dwight

Take ya ***** to Brooklyn and play with Deron Williams and Jo Johnson

I think if those 3 all end up in the same team they will be the most overrated max superstar players in history.

waveycrockett
02-15-2013, 02:12 PM
Hahah Go Dwight

Take ya ***** to Brooklyn and play with Deron Williams and Jo Johnson

I think if those 3 all end up in the same team they will be the most overrated max superstar players in history.
lol

Bob_at_york
02-15-2013, 02:13 PM
Im sure SAS would risk his credibility just to throw out some crazy rumor that he made up in his mind. If he heard it he is going to say it. He is a professional he isnt just going to put out BS.
in that case, his original source BSed him. I hope he doesn't use that source ever again. SAS should do more fact checking before he reports something.

oak2455
02-15-2013, 02:20 PM
This thread has one source which the story is wrong yet this thread is still open ..... Comedy :laugh:

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 02:57 PM
Stefan Bondy ‏@NYDNInterNets
Dwight said his reaction to Kupchak not trading him was, "Ok."

kdspurman
02-15-2013, 03:06 PM
Dwight also said this...


Dwight Howard: "I'm the best center in the league, even at 75 percent (healthy)"

Sadds The Gr8
02-15-2013, 03:07 PM
What makes this ****face think he'll have success in Brooklyn with worse players than LAL?

OceanSpray
02-15-2013, 03:10 PM
What makes this ****face think he'll have success in Brooklyn with worse players than LAL?

Because he's wasting his time in LAL. He wanted to be the man, not someone who just stands there and rebounds.

gatkins11
02-15-2013, 03:32 PM
Personally, I don't really see how Dwight and Deron would coexist on the same team.

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 03:34 PM
I would rather let him walk for nothing

lol what? I can see why ATL fans might hate that deal. The Hawks get robbed. However why do you hate it? I am no Lopez fan but i would be surprised if Brooklyn would even give up Brook for Howard now. The guy is damaged and a distraction. Brook Lopez is an all star

waveycrockett
02-15-2013, 03:34 PM
Personally, I don't really see how Dwight and Deron would coexist on the same team.

Deron is a pass first PG, Dwight is a Center. Pretty simple.

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 03:37 PM
lol at any Nets fan that thinks that a Howard-Lopez front court would work. He cannot work with Gasol who is an excellent passer with great basketball iq, and a better offensive game that Lopez and ppl think he can work with Brook "get the ball take 6 seconds to decide what i want to do and never think to pass it" Lopez?

koreancabbage
02-15-2013, 03:38 PM
personally, i would like him to go to Brooklyn, and when the rest of the teams in the East get better, they can run circles around this team.

also, i just want to hear more of DMF rant about how good his team is and then come playoff time, watch his team:
a. not make the playoffs
b. out in the first round
c. go after the next overpaid star that is on the market and brag about it (whether it be a rumour or true)


and repeat the next 5 years.

realistically, i just want Miami to play Brooklyn in the first round so you just take DMF out of the equation completely. 4 games. no questions asked. just delaying the inevitable.

OceanSpray
02-15-2013, 03:41 PM
Dwight is going to Mavs imo.

D-Leethal
02-15-2013, 03:44 PM
Dwight will be in Houston.

Pistol_Pete
02-15-2013, 03:48 PM
Hahah Go Dwight

Take ya ***** to Brooklyn and play with Deron Williams and Jo Johnson

I think if those 3 all end up in the same team they will be the most overrated max superstar players in history.

I mean, Dwight been causing problems and is having a down year, but overrated? let's take a look at his career thus far:

3 NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2009–2011)
7 NBA All-Star (2007–2013)
4 NBA rebounding champion (2008–2010, 2012)
2 NBA blocks leader (2009–2010)
5 All-NBA First Team (2008–2012)
All-NBA Third Team (2007)
4 NBA All-Defensive First Team (2009–2012)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2008)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005)
NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (2008)
Olympic Gold Medalist (2008)

According to NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwight_howard/), he's averaging 16 points, 12 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 1 steal per game. He's not overrated. He doesn't fit in with the current Lakers team.

dtmagnet
02-15-2013, 03:48 PM
Dwight also said this...

I love your sig.

justinnum1
02-15-2013, 03:50 PM
Dwight will be in Houston.

this weekend

koreancabbage
02-15-2013, 03:54 PM
I mean, Dwight been causing problems and is having a down year, but overrated? let's take a look at his career thus far:

3 NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2009–2011)
7 NBA All-Star (2007–2013)
4 NBA rebounding champion (2008–2010, 2012)
2 NBA blocks leader (2009–2010)
5 All-NBA First Team (2008–2012)
All-NBA Third Team (2007)
4 NBA All-Defensive First Team (2009–2012)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2008)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005)
NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (2008)
Olympic Gold Medalist (2008)

According to NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwight_howard/), he's averaging 16 points, 12 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 1 steal per game. He's not overrated. He doesn't fit in with the current Lakers team.

if more than, he's overrated when it comes to offensive production and body of work. He can be a much more skilled offensive player. i.e. free throws, hook shots, 10 ft jumpers etc. small little offensive moves here and there.

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 04:02 PM
if more than, he's overrated when it comes to offensive production and body of work. He can be a much more skilled offensive player. i.e. free throws, hook shots, 10 ft jumpers etc. small little offensive moves here and there.

Lmffao...

Instead of the lakers not using him the right way, Dwight Howard is overrated...

Keep drinking that KoolAid bra....

when he is in Brooklyn leading them to a top seed in the east next year, remember how "overrated" he is..

if anything, he's underrated...

KnickaBocka.44
02-15-2013, 04:12 PM
Lmffao...

Instead of the lakers not using him the right way, Dwight Howard is overrated...

Keep drinking that KoolAid bra....

when he is in Brooklyn leading them to a top seed in the east next year, remember how "overrated" he is..

if anything, he's underrated...

Why is it so hard to understand that Dwight won't be in Brooklyn?

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 04:34 PM
Why is it so hard to understand that Dwight won't be in Brooklyn?

because, Ummmm, this comment is coming from a knicks fan....

Don't worry....

This won't bump the knicks from mediocrity anytime soon

KnickaBocka.44
02-15-2013, 04:35 PM
because, Ummmm, this comment is coming from a knicks fan....

Don't worry....

This won't bump the knicks from mediocrity anytime soon

:confused:

beliges
02-15-2013, 04:42 PM
Because he's wasting his time in LAL. He wanted to be the man, not someone who just stands there and rebounds.

But thats who he is. He cant be the man without an offensive game. His offense is a liability. This is why he is overrated. On the East, he can probably make the playoffs any given year since it is historically one of the worst conferences in the history of the sport. But on the West, he would barely sniff 30-35 wins a year without a couple of all-star level scorers on his side.

STL Don
02-15-2013, 04:53 PM
As a die-hard Laker fan I was anticipating a blockbuster trade for Howard all offseason, convinced it would be another typical LA Laker move that instantly put them back in the championship picture and would give them the player that will lead the purple & gold to multiple titles over the next decade, however, at this point in the season, whether he's really injured or not, I'm already completely fed up with the bs and never wanna see this fraud wearing my beloved teams jersey again. He's a total phony and has his ego shoved way too far up his *** to appreciate the gifts god has gave him and is blinded by the opportunity he has to become something bigger than he ever could have imagined in LA. He simply doesn't deserve to be a Laker and I want him gone.

Go ahead. Trade him to the Nets for a package including Lopez.. I don't care anymore, anything but continuing to watch this season blow up in front of our faces in total disgust. The man is pathetic and I'm so sick of standing up for the guy and hoping things will eventually fall into place. It ain't gonna happen with this man, he's a cancer and beyond overrated.

Add a bigman that can compliment Gasol's game, ya know, the former 2 time NBA champion. Playing the role Kobe did for Shaq in his 1st 3 titles. Yeah. That guy. Not this big *** woman on roids.

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 05:02 PM
I do not understand why fans hate him so badly. He is being called out in public by his coach and teammate. He is unhappy there. He wants to be a first option. If LA does not want to give him that opportunity then move him.

Melo got to where he wanted. Paul got to where he wanted more or less. I don't see why Dwight doesn't deserve to be happy as well.

It would actually behoove the Lakers to trade him to the Nets. They already played their season series so they would not see Howard again for a long time.

The problem is that Brook even though he has been phenomenal, is a terrible fit for a Mike D'Antoni offense. Simply terrible.

Only way it can happen is if they find a team with a player that LA would love to have that wants Brook Lopez. Tough task. Otherwise impossible.

OceanSpray
02-15-2013, 05:28 PM
But thats who he is. He cant be the man without an offensive game. His offense is a liability. This is why he is overrated. On the East, he can probably make the playoffs any given year since it is historically one of the worst conferences in the history of the sport. But on the West, he would barely sniff 30-35 wins a year without a couple of all-star level scorers on his side.

Or maybe it's because the LAL run their offense through Kobe and Howard isn't getting enough touches..

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 05:29 PM
Lakers fans think its Dwights fault he's playing in a system that is completely foreign to his skillset while nursing a torn shoulder and back that is surgically repaired and obviously hobbling him...

But, its not the lakers fault for firing brown ( a defensive wizard) too early or hiring dantoni ( worst defensive coach in history) when they had an opportunity to hire ( lmmfao ) Phil Jackson...

Its not kobes fault for being an ******* and singling his teammate out...

Nope, its the badly injured guy who is playing in a foreign system who has a coach that doesn't teach defense with a star teammate who is critiquing his every move...

Time to open your eyes la... This is, simply put, an organization problem... Not Dwights...

You'll realize how unprepared the lakers were for kobes inevitable decline this offseason when Dwight walks and your stuck over the luxury tax with hundreds of millions tied up in horrible contracts

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 05:30 PM
I can see why you would want to blame Dwight though...

He's a much easier scapegoat than Cupcheck, Buss, Kobe, dantoni, and the organization as a whole

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 05:38 PM
WOW! Anyone and everything connected to the Nets is hated by everyone cause Nets have good ownership and people are jealous. Face it nets are the hottest landing spot now for FA's. You can get angry all you want that we have an owner that will spend like crazy to win. If you want that for your team then join us. Any player that wants to be a Net is public enemy number 1 on here. What has the Nets done to get be to hate them so much?GROW UP

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 05:45 PM
Im getting so sick of you posters and this site, I might close my account if this continues. I cant even discuss anything without hate from people, and mods arent doing anything. I want a mod so I can ban people for their off topic posting. IVe earned it. If this doesnt stop im talking my posting elsewhere

Gibby23
02-15-2013, 05:45 PM
WOW! Anyone and everything connected to the Nets is hated by everyone cause Nets have good ownership and people are jealous. Face it nets are the hottest landing spot now for FA's. You can get angry all you want that we have an owner that will spend like crazy to win. If you want that for your team then join us. Any player that wants to be a Net is public enemy number 1 on here. What has the Nets done to get be to hate them so much?GROW UP

I wouldn't say the Nets have good ownership. They traded for an over paid JJ, and they knew even if Howard was traded somewhere else he would still be a free agent this coming year. Instead of filling the rest of the roster with 1 year deals and going for Howard as a FA they gave out big long term deals. They won't get him in a Trade and are over the tax to get him in a S&T. They screwed up big time on a team that won't do anythin while they still have that JJ contract.

OceanSpray
02-15-2013, 05:47 PM
Im getting so sick of you posters and this site, I might close my account if this continues. I cant even discuss anything without hate from people, and mods arent doing anything. I want a mod so I can ban people for their off topic posting. IVe earned it. If this doesnt stop im talking my posting elsewhere

Nets have good ownership? Because signing Joe Johnson was such a great move.. They'll not only have to pay Joe Johnson, they have to keep him for the remainder of his contract. Joe Johnson isn't even a top 25 player!

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 05:48 PM
Im getting so sick of you posters and this site, I might close my account if this continues. I cant even discuss anything without hate from people, and mods arent doing anything. I want a mod so I can ban people for their off topic posting. IVe earned it. If this doesnt stop im talking my posting elsewhere

You are such a tease

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
02-15-2013, 05:48 PM
double post

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 05:51 PM
Howard doesn't even have to play though the pain he is dealing with. He could easily sit out. Players have sat out for much less than that before. Lakers and their fans are so spoiled. When everything is not perfect it means the world hates them smh

Howard should just sit out till his shoulder is 100% and see how well the Lakers fare smh they are lucky that Clark has been a revelation for them because otherwise they would be in a very bad shape

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
02-15-2013, 05:54 PM
HAha DMF THREATENING LEAVING PSD? Lol plz do gtfo u think anyone would care bro? Ur known as one of the biggest trolls on here

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 05:57 PM
HAha DMF THREATENING LEAVING PSD? Lol plz do gtfo u think anyone would care bro? Ur known as the biggest trolls on here

Are you 12 years old? Serious question. Just curious.

I keep reading your comments wondering whether i should block you. I haven't because you used to actually be an ok poster and i am hoping this is just a phase or something. However the fact that you seem to have no clue how to use the REPLY WITH QUOTE which is annoying as hell, combined with the fact that most of your posts nowadays is just you whining and being on DMF's jock.. i am quite tempted.

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 05:57 PM
HAha DMF THREATENING LEAVING PSD? Lol plz do gtfo u think anyone would care bro? Ur known as one of the biggest trolls on here

im getting sick of being picked on and being cyber bullied. Its getting old.

OceanSpray
02-15-2013, 05:58 PM
im getting sick of being picked on and being cyber bullied. Its getting old.

That's because you troll.

29$JerZ
02-15-2013, 05:59 PM
Howard doesn't even have to play though the pain he is dealing with. He could easily sit out. Players have sat out for much less than that before. Lakers and their fans are so spoiled. When everything is not perfect it means the world hates them smh

Howard should just sit out till his shoulder is 100% and see how well the Lakers fare smh they are lucky that Clark has been a revelation for them because otherwise they would be in a very bad shape


The Lakers will send All-Star center Andrew Bynum to the Philadelphia 76ers, who also will receive shooting guard Jason Richardson from the Magic. The Sixers will send guard Andre Iguodala to the Denver Nuggets. The Magic will receive Arron Afflalo, Al Harrington, Nikola Vucevic, rookie swingman Moe Harkless, forward Josh McRoberts, forward Christian Eyenga, a first-round pick from either the Nuggets or the New York Knicks in 2014, a protected first-round pick from the Sixers, a protected first-round pick from the Lakers in 2017, a second-round pick from the Nuggets in 2013 and a conditional second-rounder from the Lakers in 2015. In addition to Howard, the Lakers will also receive Earl Clark and Chris Duhon from the Magic.

Unless I'm missing someone The Lakers Swapped Bynum (who hasn't even played a game this season), a protected 1st rounder, a protected 2nd rounder for Dwight Howard, Earl Clark and Duhon.
They essentially got him for nothing.

They actually traded more for Nash.

In return, the Suns get four draft picks -- first rounders in 2013 and 2015 and second rounders in 2013 and 2014.

My guess is LA just wants to make the most out of Dwight :shrug:

DoMeFavors
02-15-2013, 06:00 PM
That's because you troll.

I only come now a days to post when good stuff is happening to Nets. Cause I like to see your reactions. I hardly post anymore. If you call me wishing for Carmelo in 2011 a troll then ok sure

fresh prince
02-15-2013, 06:00 PM
Yeah As much as people wanted to think Dwight would stay.... its obvious he wouldnt, he would have signed the extension immediately if that was the case

This is good no one wants him to stay here.. Both sides are better off elsewhere

Dwight isnt built enough emotionally to be THE star in a big city and that is the kind of player we covet.

29$JerZ
02-15-2013, 06:01 PM
Im getting so sick of you posters and this site, I might close my account if this continues. I cant even discuss anything without hate from people, and mods arent doing anything. I want a mod so I can ban people for their off topic posting. IVe earned it. If this doesnt stop im talking my posting elsewhere

Your history is why you're responded to in that manner, you pretty much brought that to yourself.
You've earned nothing. PM mods if the problems continues. Saying it here doesn't do anything.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-15-2013, 06:03 PM
[QUOTE]Lakers fans think its Dwights fault he's playing in a system that is completely foreign to his skillset while nursing a torn shoulder and back that is surgically repaired and obviously hobbling him...

A lot of people on here and I guess throughout the world have a real big problem generalizing an entire group by what they have heard from a few. Its a form of prejudice that runs rampant in this country. It seems most Americans are sheep and cannot distinguish individuals from a group. When you say Laker fans you emply all believe that garbage you just typed. Its not true.


But, its not the lakers fault for firing brown ( a defensive wizard) too early or hiring dantoni ( worst defensive coach in history) when they had an opportunity to hire ( lmmfao ) Phil Jackson...

Brown and wizard should not be used in the same sentance. True on Phil, and true and D'Antoni. That was a bad move. But every franchise makes mistakes. Just like the Nets did in signing fat lazy Williams to all that money when he has cleary been declining for the past few years, trading for Joe Johnson and that awful contract, giving all that money to Humphries, hiring Johnson etc, etc, etc....


Its not kobes fault for being an ******* and singling his teammate out...

When did Kobe single Dwight out? If anything, Nash has been the harsh one on Dwight. He takes shots at him more than anyone on the team. But thats not the sexy story so it wont get no run on ESPN or PSD


Nope, its the badly injured guy who is playing in a foreign system who has a coach that doesn't teach defense with a star teammate who is critiquing his every move...

See above...


Time to open your eyes la... This is, simply put, an organization problem... Not Dwights...

HAHAH, The Lakers dont have an organizational problem. If anything its the top two or three organizations in all of American Sports. One bad year does not take away from everything the franchise is about. They had the fore site to dump Bynum and he glass knees and get Howard and Clark. Even if Howard leaves after this year the Lakers still won. Best case scenario is Howard resigns and gets healthy again and is a 27 year old superstar. The front office is brilliant. There is no way to dispute it.


You'll realize how unprepared the lakers were for kobes inevitable decline this offseason when Dwight walks and your stuck over the luxury tax with hundreds of millions tied up in horrible contracts

This is by far your dumbest statement out of a plethora of dumb statements. The Lakers have one man signed for 2014 and that is Nash at 9 million that year. The Lakers prepared for Kobe's retirement by going to get the best center in the game to take his spot as the franchise player. The Lakers have anything but horrible contracts. Thats the Nets. Every one of these players values are as high as they can be due to the fact that they expire next year. Lakers have set themselves up so nicely for a deep 2014 free agent class that it should be a blue print for all other teams.

fresh prince
02-15-2013, 06:06 PM
Im getting so sick of you posters and this site, I might close my account if this continues. I cant even discuss anything without hate from people, and mods arent doing anything. I want a mod so I can ban people for their off topic posting. IVe earned it. If this doesnt stop im talking my posting elsewhere

Sensitive thugs you all need hugs....

Mr_Jones
02-15-2013, 06:15 PM
im getting so sick of you posters and this site, i might close my account if this continues. I cant even discuss anything without hate from people, and mods arent doing anything. I want a mod so i can ban people for their off topic posting. Ive earned it. If this doesnt stop im talking my posting elsewhere

fuhcking go

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 06:15 PM
[QUOTE=bringinwood;25399114]

A lot of people on here and I guess throughout the world have a real big problem generalizing an entire group by what they have heard from a few. Its a form of prejudice that runs rampant in this country. It seems most Americans are sheep and cannot distinguish individuals from a group. When you say Laker fans you emply all believe that garbage you just typed. Its not true.



Brown and wizard should not be used in the same sentance. True on Phil, and true and D'Antoni. That was a bad move. But every franchise makes mistakes. Just like the Nets did in signing fat lazy Williams to all that money when he has cleary been declining for the past few years, trading for Joe Johnson and that awful contract, giving all that money to Humphries, hiring Johnson etc, etc, etc....



When did Kobe single Dwight out? If anything, Nash has been the harsh one on Dwight. He takes shots at him more than anyone on the team. But thats not the sexy story so it wont get no run on ESPN or PSD



See above...



HAHAH, The Lakers dont have an organizational problem. If anything its the top two or three organizations in all of American Sports. One bad year does not take away from everything the franchise is about. They had the fore site to dump Bynum and he glass knees and get Howard and Clark. Even if Howard leaves after this year the Lakers still won. Best case scenario is Howard resigns and gets healthy again and is a 27 year old superstar. The front office is brilliant. There is no way to dispute it.



This is by far your dumbest statement out of a plethora of dumb statements. The Lakers have one man signed for 2014 and that is Nash at 9 million that year. The Lakers prepared for Kobe's retirement by going to get the best center in the game to take his spot as the franchise player. The Lakers have anything but horrible contracts. Thats the Nets. Everyone one of these players values are as high as they can be due to the fact that they expire next year. Lakers have set themselves up so nicely for a deep 2014 free agent class that it should be a blue print for all other teams.


Then why are the lakers 11th in the west ???

Why is, seemingly most of their fan base, complaining about a player that little to do with why they are horrible this year ???

Lastly, you are horribly confused...

The lakers have the best MARKET in American sports...

They, essentially, print money....

They are FAR from the best run organization in basketball, let alone sports...

If the lakers were the Minnesota lakers, they'd be perennial bottom dwellers...

PS~ a sixer fan... Not a nets fan... That should make you scratch your head

shep33
02-15-2013, 06:16 PM
lol what? I can see why ATL fans might hate that deal. The Hawks get robbed. However why do you hate it? I am no Lopez fan but i would be surprised if Brooklyn would even give up Brook for Howard now. The guy is damaged and a distraction. Brook Lopez is an all star

Honestly if Dwight leaves, whatever, I actually won't be that upset. However, if that situation arises I want a complete rebuild for this squad. Nothing against Lopez, he's been better than Dwight this year, but I'd just rather us go with a full rebuild.

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 06:17 PM
Unless I'm missing someone The Lakers Swapped Bynum (who hasn't even played a game this season), a protected 1st rounder, a protected 2nd rounder for Dwight Howard, Earl Clark and Duhon.
They essentially got him for nothing.

They actually traded more for Nash.


My guess is LA just wants to make the most out of Dwight :shrug:

What the heck does this have to do with what i said?

I am sure the WANT to maximize what they have and want Dwight to play but he does not have through. He has a torn shoulder. Many players sit out for much less.

Also you say the gave up nothing only because Bynum has been injured. Bynum was not injured when they traded him.

fresh prince
02-15-2013, 06:19 PM
[QUOTE=DODGERS&LAKERS;25399367]


Then why are the lakers 11th in the west ???

Why is, seemingly most of their fan base, complaining about a player that little to do with why they are horrible this year ???

Lastly, you are horribly confused...

The lakers have the best MARKET in American sports...

They, essentially, print money....

They are FAR from the best run organization in basketball, let alone sports...

If the lakers were the Minnesota lakers, they'd be perennial bottom dwellers...

PS~ a sixer fan... Not a nets fan... That should make you scratch your head

If your aunt had nuts she would be your unlce.

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 06:26 PM
Honestly if Dwight leaves, whatever, I actually won't be that upset. However, if that situation arises I want a complete rebuild for this squad. Nothing against Lopez, he's been better than Dwight this year, but I'd just rather us go with a full rebuild.

Lakers do not rebuild. Don't be so ridiculous. Even if they wanted to rebuild they couldn't because:

1. Kobe will retire a Laker and Mamba don't play that. Kobe is still playing at at very high level. You get him players and keep the bus rolling till the wheels fall out.

2. Lakers traded their pick for next year, and with Kobe there they will never be bad enough to get rebuilding pieces

Lakers best bet is to get what they can while they can. Lopez is not a player that relies on athleticism. He will be 34 still doing what he is doing now. He would be a very solid player to get back for Dwight.

That said Lopez does not fit D'Antoni so if he is the permanent coach it makes no sense for Lopez to go home to the Lakers.

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 06:28 PM
[QUOTE=bringinwood;25399447]

If your aunt had nuts she would be your unlce.


Best run organization in basketball is okc hands down...

LA, with their marketing advantage, financial advantage, and FA attractiveness SHOULD be the best run franchise in basketball...

However, even with those advantages, they aren't... Which makes their downfalls even more glaring...

Their successes, over the years, are inevitable...

Their geographical advantages will give them that...

See the Yankees in baseball...

29$JerZ
02-15-2013, 06:28 PM
What the heck does this have to do with what i said?

I am sure the WANT to maximize what they have and want Dwight to play but he does not have through. He has a torn shoulder. Many players sit out for much less.

Also you say the gave up nothing only because Bynum has been injured. Bynum was not injured when they traded him.

Since he has no commitment to the Lakers they are disregarding his injury and want to maximize whatever production they can get from him. Should have made that clearer, my bad.

Even though Bynum wasn't injured before the trade I'd like to think LA at least was aware of his potential deteriorating knees and were relieved they could swap him for Dwight.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-15-2013, 06:31 PM
bringinwood

Then why are the lakers 11th in the west ???

Why is, seemingly most of their fan base, complaining about a player that little to do with why they are horrible this year ???

Lastly, you are horribly confused...

The lakers have the best MARKET in American sports...

They, essentially, print money....

They are FAR from the best run organization in basketball, let alone sports...

If the lakers were the Minnesota lakers, they'd be perennial bottom dwellers...

PS~ a sixer fan... Not a nets fan... That should make you scratch your head
They are actually 10th in the west for many reasons. And only 3 games in the loss column out of the 8th spot.

Bad chemistry. They have not looked fluid at all on offense except for the three games they won without Dwight. But that was against crap teams so go figure...

Injuries- They are so top heavy that they needed their four best players to play as they have in the past, or at least play. Nash missed 26 games, Pau has missed 15 and will the rest of the season, Dwight has been hobbled all year by back and shoulder issues and has missed 8 games. Their back up point guard missed 40 games. Their best big off the bench has missed 22 games and will miss the rest of the season.

They had to use two point guards who cant even get in a game now to start and play heavy minutes for a majority of the season. That affects any team.

Los Angeles is not the best market in American Sports. That is New York. Not only do they have more people per capita, they also dont have as many transplants from out of state. If you think having a big market equals sustained success, please google the word CLIPPERS, KNICKS, CUBS, METS, SIXERS, RED SOX and so on. Clippers play in the same building. What has been thier excuse?

I dont care what team you are a fan of. I am talking about the team that the subject of the thread is about. You think the Lakers are in bad shape, but this thread proposes that he goes to a team who impitimizes the phrase bad shape.

hugepatsfan
02-15-2013, 06:34 PM
I only read the first page so if somebody else has brought this up already than I apologize but SAS is either making it up or his source is wrong:

Lakers last played Toronto on January 20th. Gay was traded to the Raptors 10 days later on January 30th. The origin of this story could not have happened.

lololololol

dtmagnet
02-15-2013, 06:36 PM
[QUOTE=fresh prince;25399472]


Best run organization in basketball is okc hands down...

LA, with their marketing advantage, financial advantage, and FA attractiveness SHOULD be the best run franchise in basketball...

However, even with those advantages, they aren't... Which makes their downfalls even more glaring...

Their successes, over the years, are inevitable...

Their geographical advantages will give them that...

See the Yankees in baseball...

No way, that belongs to San Antonio. OKC/Seattle got lucky with some top picks (granted their scouting was excellent on the Westbrook pick) but San Antonio continues to find very good players late in the draft and from other teams benches.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
02-15-2013, 06:37 PM
I know it's been said Lakers won't trade him but man it seems so risky to just let him go into free agency with as shaky as this season has been I could def see him leaving and the Lakers would have an issue on there hand... if this season had gone better Id understand but to me it's another case of get him to commit before the deadline or move him while you can

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 06:40 PM
Lately, the clips don't need an excuse...

You really think, from a marketing, financial, and attractiveness standpoint, NY is a better market for sports...

Maybe in 1950...

But, not in todays society...

No one cares if mobb deep is at a knicks game...

The entire country is enthralled with jack nicholson, mark Wahlberg, and the hundreds of stars that attend every lakers

There are more out of the la area laker fans than any other team in sports...

That speaks volumes

Cracka2HI!
02-15-2013, 06:41 PM
I doubt Brooklyn even wants Howard anymore, but wouldn't Brook Lopez be a better fit for the Lakers?

shep33
02-15-2013, 06:41 PM
Lakers do not rebuild. Don't be so ridiculous. Even if they wanted to rebuild they couldn't because:

1. Kobe will retire a Laker and Mamba don't play that. Kobe is still playing at at very high level. You get him players and keep the bus rolling till the wheels fall out.

2. Lakers traded their pick for next year, and with Kobe there they will never be bad enough to get rebuilding pieces

Lakers best bet is to get what they can while they can. Lopez is not a player that relies on athleticism. He will be 34 still doing what he is doing now. He would be a very solid player to get back for Dwight.

That said Lopez does not fit D'Antoni so if he is the permanent coach it makes no sense for Lopez to go home to the Lakers.

Well maybe not a full rebuild, but we are better off reloading in 2014 either way. Maybe Kobe sticks around for a year or two on the cheap (same with Pau), and then we still have cap room going forward. Lot of quality players available that summer, so maybe we can give it a run that year, while the following year a bunch of other great players also get on the market (Love, Aldridge, Rondo, etc.).

No need to take on Lopez's deal though. He's good, but I'd rather keep that flexibility open.

oak2455
02-15-2013, 06:43 PM
fuhcking go

:laugh:

29$JerZ
02-15-2013, 06:44 PM
I doubt Brooklyn even wants Howard anymore, but wouldn't Brook Lopez be a better fit for the Lakers?

Not if D'Antoni is the coach.
He'll do what the Nets did to Lopez years before and strictly make him a jump shooter.
Plus Lopez is too slow to be the C for a D'Antoni team.

shep33
02-15-2013, 06:44 PM
Anyways, Howard has pushed himself into a hole. He's been saying that he's underperforming this year due to injury... okay, so if you 75%, and have missed some games, while witnessing a bunch of injuries to Gasol, Nash, and Hill this year, can you really say that you gave this thing a fair shake?

I want him to stay, but I won't be sad if he leaves. Dude's image is going to get crushed on a whole new level if he leaves LA.

shep33
02-15-2013, 06:45 PM
D'antoni won't be the coach next year, unless he pulls off a miracle run

oak2455
02-15-2013, 06:46 PM
I doubt Brooklyn even wants Howard anymore, but wouldn't Brook Lopez be a better fit for the Lakers?

I say no only because he can't run in Mike D's offense ..... Wonder what the Lakers will do

oak2455
02-15-2013, 06:47 PM
D'antoni won't be the coach next year, unless he pulls off a miracle run

I hope you right

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-15-2013, 06:49 PM
Lately, the clips don't need an excuse...

But they have been in L.A for 28 years. If you belive what you say about market dictating success, it should not have taken them so long to have a good season.


You really think, from a marketing, financial, and attractiveness standpoint, NY is a better market for sports...

Well...... the Knicks are the franchise with the highest worth sooo.... yeah. Considering that they have not had relatively half the success that the Lakers have and are yet still worth more, play in what everyone calls the "Mecca of Basketball", I would say that the New York market is better for sports. If they Knicks won as much as the Lakers have in the past, what do you think their value would be?

Maybe in 1950...

But, not in todays society...

No one cares if mobb deep is at a knicks game...


The entire country is enthralled with jack Michelson, mark Wahlberg, and the hundreds of stars that attend every lakers game


Im not sure what that has to do with anything.The reason that these stars come to see the Lakers is becuase they are successful. The Lakers did not win games because Jack was in a seat. Jack was in a seat because the Lakers win games.

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 06:50 PM
[QUOTE=bringinwood;25399527]

No way, that belongs to San Antonio. OKC/Seattle got lucky with some top picks (granted their scouting was excellent on the Westbrook pick) but San Antonio continues to find very good players late in the draft and from other teams benches.

From a purely basketball standpoint, it's debatable.. From an overall organizational aspect, I think you're way off...

How marketable has okc made themselves globally ???

SA ???

I know what lakers fans will say, look at us..

You inherit that on location...

Okc built that from scratch...

They didn't get " lucky " in the draft...

They draft well... Big difference...

You don't draft westbrook, Durant, harden, and ibaka and get lucky every time

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-15-2013, 06:54 PM
netsdaily
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/2/14/3990622/stephen-a-smith-howard-still-thinks-hes-going-to-be-in-brooklyn

sas: "i had a reliable source tell me this...dwight howard will categorically deny it, but i trust my source...when they were playing toronto recently, he sat there on the court and told rudy gay, 'you messed up bad man. You should have waited and ended up with me in brooklyn next year. That's what he told him.

How can this still be open???? Did the mods take a nap?

Im going to start a thread saying how I was at the club last night and Lebron told me that he was going to come to the Lakers in 2014 once they had cap room. It was around 6pm pacific time.

I know most of you thought you saw him dismantling the Thunder at the time but nope!!! My source is correct!

How fast do you think that crap would be locked up??? But since this has to do with the chance of the Lakers actully not getting their way for once, we'll just let this one slide. Truth and facts be damned!!

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 06:57 PM
I doubt Brooklyn even wants Howard anymore, but wouldn't Brook Lopez be a better fit for the Lakers?

Heck no. D'Antoni wants to run and Lopez is slow. D'Antoni hates post ups and post play in general and that is what Lopez excels at

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 06:58 PM
But they have been in L.A for 28 years. If you belive what you say about market dictating success, it should not have taken them so long to have a good season.



Well...... the Knicks are the franchise with the highest worth sooo.... yeah. Considering that they have not had relatively half the success that the Lakers have and are yet still worth more, play in what everyone calls the "Mecca of Basketball", I would say that the New York market is better for sports. If they Knicks won as much as the Lakers have in the past, what do you think their value would be?



Im not sure what that has to do with anything.The reason that these stars come to see the Lakers is becuase they are successful. The Lakers did not win games because Jack was in a seat. Jack was in a seat because the Lakers win games.


They come to la to be on the spotlight... Success is inevitable...

Shaq didn't choose the lakers... He chose the spotlight...

Minnesota lakers = no shaq regardless of their successes...

When Kobe wanted a trade in 07 or.around there...

He wanted to be a clipper... Not a knick...

Why ??? To keep his spotlight...

Odom ??? Shaq went to Miami... Another monster market...

NY is an old market... La, Miami... geographical successes

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-15-2013, 07:01 PM
They come to la to be on the spotlight... Success is inevitable...

Shaq didn't choose the lakers... He chose the spotlight...

Minnesota lakers = no shaq regardless of their successes...

When Kobe wanted a trade in 07 or.around there...

He wanted to be a clipper... Not a knick...

Why ??? To keep his spotlight...

Odom ??? Shaq went to Miami... Another monster market...

NY is an old market... La, Miami... geographical successes

Im not going to play with you no more. Ill leave you with this one word. I want you to take this word with you and go into a dark room to ponder its meaning. Then try to relate this word to your theory of market= success. Then have a nice day with this unsolvable riddle.

CLIPPERS

Chill_Will_24
02-15-2013, 07:02 PM
How can this still be open???? Did the mods take a nap?

Im going to start a thread saying how I was at the club last night and Lebron told me that he was going to come to the Lakers in 2014 once they had cap room. It was around 6pm pacific time.

I know most of you thought you saw him dismantling the Thunder at the time but nope!!! My source is correct!

How fast do you think that crap would be locked up??? But since this has to do with the chance of the Lakers actully not getting their way for once, we'll just let this one slide. Truth and facts be damned!!

Cool story bro!!!!

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-15-2013, 07:04 PM
Cool story bro!!!!

I thought so too!! You should make up a story too and create a thread about it. Just go way out there with it. I promise you it wont be locked. This site here like to promote the fictional stories...

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 07:06 PM
I'll put this in simple terms...

How many of you actually think the lakers would be as successful as they've been if they played in Albuquerque ???

Would the raptors have been as bad as they've been had they been the la raptors ???

bringinwood
02-15-2013, 07:15 PM
The clippers share the lakers market...

Thats a benefit that the lakers have capitalized on for decades... Its not something that the current lakers had anything to do with...

The fact that they've allowed the clippers to seize any of it is A massive failure on their part...

beliges
02-15-2013, 09:00 PM
I doubt Brooklyn even wants Howard anymore, but wouldn't Brook Lopez be a better fit for the Lakers?

I say no only because he can't run in Mike D's offense ..... Wonder what the Lakers will do

Mike D is as good as gone. Lakers will get a new coach next season and of Kobe gets his way, that new coach will be pjax.

knicks=love
02-15-2013, 10:21 PM
How can this still be open???? Did the mods take a nap?

Im going to start a thread saying how I was at the club last night and Lebron told me that he was going to come to the Lakers in 2014 once they had cap room. It was around 6pm pacific time.

I know most of you thought you saw him dismantling the Thunder at the time but nope!!! My source is correct!

How fast do you think that crap would be locked up??? But since this has to do with the chance of the Lakers actully not getting their way for once, we'll just let this one slide. Truth and facts be damned!!

you won't

NBA_Starter
02-15-2013, 10:27 PM
I kind of feel bad for this guys mental state.

Quinnsanity
02-15-2013, 10:29 PM
If you're the Lakers and Dwight says: "I'm signing with Houston unless you trade me to Brooklyn." Don't the Lakers trade him then? Better Brook Lopez than nothing.

Cracka2HI!
02-15-2013, 11:49 PM
Not if D'Antoni is the coach.
He'll do what the Nets did to Lopez years before and strictly make him a jump shooter.
Plus Lopez is too slow to be the C for a D'Antoni team.It's not like Howard is darting up and down the floor this year.


If you're the Lakers and Dwight says: "I'm signing with Houston unless you trade me to Brooklyn." Don't the Lakers trade him then? Better Brook Lopez than nothing.

This is probably the most likely scenario. Maybe the Lakers trade another all-star Center in a 3 team deal again?

Cracka2HI!
02-15-2013, 11:50 PM
Im not going to play with you no more. Ill leave you with this one word. I want you to take this word with you and go into a dark room to ponder its meaning. Then try to relate this word to your theory of market= success. Then have a nice day with this unsolvable riddle.

CLIPPERS
Will be the best basketball team in Los Angeles for the foreseeable future! Did I solve the riddle? :shrug:

dtmagnet
02-16-2013, 12:00 AM
If you're the Lakers and Dwight says: "I'm signing with Houston unless you trade me to Brooklyn." Don't the Lakers trade him then? Better Brook Lopez than nothing.

I just don't get why Brooklyn would do that, Lopez has been the better player and he costs half as much as Dwight will.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-16-2013, 01:05 AM
Will be the best basketball team in Los Angeles for the foreseeable future! Did I solve the riddle? :shrug:

Probably. please keep in mind I was not trying to Dog the Clippers. I was trying to prove a point. The guy said the Lakers are not a well run organization. He says that they only won because of their location. I said the Clippers have been here for 28 years. What happened to them?

Cracka2HI!
02-16-2013, 01:31 AM
Probably. please keep in mind I was not trying to Dog the Clippers. I was trying to prove a point. The guy said the Lakers are not a well run organization. He says that they only won because of their location. I said the Clippers have been here for 28 years. What happened to them?

Fair enough. You won that argument if true. That's actually a very clever riddle in that case!

superwill
02-16-2013, 09:09 PM
on sas twitter he said he meant Memphis not the Raptors. This story still doesn't add up to me

ManRam
02-16-2013, 09:15 PM
Good. He's not good enough for us.

GOOD RIDDINGS!

justinnum1
02-16-2013, 09:23 PM
If dwight leaves the lakers, kobe will never get another ring.

ManRam
02-16-2013, 09:25 PM
If dwight leaves the lakers, kobe will never get another ring.

LOL.

SUUUURRREEEE


Whatever makes you sleep at night...

beliges
02-16-2013, 09:50 PM
If dwight leaves the lakers, kobe will never get another ring.

I don't know, he got 5 without him. Wonder if LBJ can get a ring without Wade or bosh.

ManRam
02-16-2013, 09:56 PM
I don't know, he got 5 without him. Wonder if LBJ can get a ring without Wade or bosh.

LOL fat ****ing chance. Bron could win with a prime Shaq, Ben Wallace and Wally Z. He basically had dream teams in Cleveland. He had Joe Smith too! Another #1 overall pick. What a failure.