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Im_in_Mia_bish
02-09-2013, 12:36 PM
with Dwight playing bad this season (whether its injury, preference or whatever), which player do you feel is playing as "the best center" this season?

Dwight Howard's stats- 16.2 Points/ 11.8 Rebounds/ 2.4 Blocks/ 57.5%FG/ PER 19.2

discuss.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-09-2013, 12:37 PM
wow check out Drummond's stats.. 13 points, 13 rebounds, 3 blocks per game per36.. and he doesnt even start lol
HOLY CRAP.

Nick O
02-09-2013, 12:40 PM
Dwight Howard

Nyc4You
02-09-2013, 12:41 PM
wow check out Drummond's stats.. 13 points, 13 rebounds, 3 blocks per game.. and he doesnt even start lol
HOLY CRAP.
Lawrence Frank is an idiot.

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 12:43 PM
I was a huge fan of Drummond coming out but he's not even the best center on his own team let alone the NBA.

Lloyd Christmas
02-09-2013, 12:43 PM
Marc Gasol

PleaseBeNice
02-09-2013, 12:46 PM
Noah

heyman321
02-09-2013, 12:47 PM
Aaron Gray

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-09-2013, 12:48 PM
Noah

cousins has been pretty good this season. 17 and 10

DoMeFavors
02-09-2013, 12:50 PM
Zepol Koorb backwards

Avenged
02-09-2013, 12:52 PM
Dwight.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-09-2013, 12:52 PM
Zepol Koorb backwards

if he improved his rebounds, he'd make a solid case, right now averaging 19 and 7.. thats chris bosh territory lol

RipCity32
02-09-2013, 12:54 PM
Moose

Nats_vcu-Okc35
02-09-2013, 01:00 PM
Gotta throw David lee out there. 19/11/4, over 50% from the field, 80% from the line. He's been the most consistent piece that GSW has had in a while.

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 01:01 PM
Gotta throw David lee out there. 19/11/4, over 50% from the field, 80% from the line. He's been the most consistent piece that GSW has had in a while.
He's not a center

Tmath
02-09-2013, 01:04 PM
wow check out Drummond's stats.. 13 points, 13 rebounds, 3 blocks per game per36.. and he doesnt even start lol
HOLY CRAP.

Coming off the bench benefits him since he is playing against the opposing teams bench most of the time. But yeah, the kid is a man child.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
02-09-2013, 01:05 PM
Larry Sanders

DallasTrilla23
02-09-2013, 01:18 PM
Its kind of anyone's title to take. There's alot of Cs playing solid but nobody really stands out.

if bynum had been healthy this season, no doubt he would be the best center in the league.

I feel your pain sixers fans.

DoMeFavors
02-09-2013, 01:21 PM
if he improved his rebounds, he'd make a solid case, right now averaging 19 and 7.. thats chris bosh territory lol

So Chris Bosh is a good player

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 01:27 PM
if he improved his rebounds, he'd make a solid case, right now averaging 19 and 7.. thats chris bosh territory lol

Chris Bosh is a borderline superstar.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-09-2013, 01:30 PM
Chris Bosh is a borderline superstar.

thats kinda my point...

Collings94
02-09-2013, 01:31 PM
I would go with Marc Gasol. His numbers are not the absolute best, 13-7-3, but he is a top flight defender and does a lot of the little things, tips balls to teammates, changes the direction of shots, etc.

There is a really good crop of young centers, Drummond, Monroe, Gasol, Cousins, Hibbert, Jordan, Horford and more.

KG is now, for all intents and purposes, a center and he has played extremely well since the Rondo injury.

I Rock Shaqs
02-09-2013, 01:46 PM
Al Jefferson, constantly overlooked for his whole career.

lol, please
02-09-2013, 01:49 PM
with Dwight playing bad this season (whether its injury, preference or whatever), which player do you feel is playing as "the best center" this season?

Dwight Howard's stats- 16.2 Points/ 11.8 Rebounds/ 2.4 Blocks/ 57.5%FG/ PER 19.2

discuss.
Andrew M-Effin' Bogut.

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 01:50 PM
Al Jefferson, constantly overlooked for his whole career.

Thats because his defense is very bad and he is widely known as a block hole/stat stuffer. But he's def made strides but I do still see him more as PF than a true Center.

OceanSpray
02-09-2013, 01:51 PM
Drummond isn't starting because Greg Monroe is. Hard to choose.. They need to trade one of them and get a piece that actually helps their team. Seeing as how Greg has value, Pistons should trade him and invest in Drummond. He in my eyes is a top 10 player of the future.

RipCity32
02-09-2013, 01:52 PM
Drummond isn't starting because Greg Monroe is. Hard to choose.. They need to trade one of them and get a piece that actually helps their team. Seeing as how Greg has value, Pistons should trade him and invest in Drummond. He in my eyes is a top 10 player of the future.

Why not just slide Monroe to the 4 and run with twin towers.

b@llhog24
02-09-2013, 01:54 PM
Chandler/Gasol/Lopez all have a decent claim at that title this season.

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 01:56 PM
Drummond isn't starting because Greg Monroe is. Hard to choose.. They need to trade one of them and get a piece that actually helps their team. Seeing as how Greg has value, Pistons should trade him and invest in Drummond. He in my eyes is a top 10 player of the future.
No need to choose between the 2 I think both can play with one another. Monroe is a very versatile big man who is more offensively oriented than Drummond. Drummond has nice upside and is more DeAndre Jordan/Dwight Howard (best case). They just need to find some good wing players. Their wing players suck.

2-ONE-5
02-09-2013, 01:56 PM
Thats because his defense is very bad and he is widely known as a block hole/stat stuffer. But he's def made strides but I do still see him more as PF than a true Center.

Al Jeff is better then Lopez

OceanSpray
02-09-2013, 01:57 PM
Why not just slide Monroe to the 4 and run with twin towers.

I don't think they'll mesh well on the court together. With that being said, Drummond has huge potential. Probably would've been ROY if he got more minutes.

kenzo400
02-09-2013, 01:58 PM
Aaron Gray

+1 This.

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 01:58 PM
Al Jeff is better then Lopez

Last year I would agree but Lopez defense puts him above Al Jefferson. Al Jefferson isnt as efficent and does not defend the paint at all.

RipCity32
02-09-2013, 02:04 PM
I don't think they'll mesh well on the court together. With that being said, Drummond has huge potential. Probably would've been ROY if he got more minutes.

I think they compliment each other well.Monroe can score the ball well and has the offense Drummond does not.Drummond does the things Monroe can't on defense.Drummond is a physical above the rim player while Monroe is a finesse under the rim old school player.Both can also pass the ball very good.The only holding it back right now is Monroe's ability to guard the 4 spot and Monroe needs to knock down the 15-18 foot shot a little more consistently.

DR_1
02-09-2013, 02:07 PM
Joakim Noah :dance:

LJEATON26
02-09-2013, 02:13 PM
Brooks Lopez

OceanSpray
02-09-2013, 02:16 PM
I think they compliment each other well.Monroe can score the ball well and has the offense Drummond does not.Drummond does the things Monroe can't on defense.Drummond is a physical above the rim player while Monroe is a finesse under the rim old school player.Both can also pass the ball very good.The only holding it back right now is Monroe's ability to guard the 4 spot and Monroe needs to knock down the 15-18 foot shot a little more consistently.

If they are both clogging up the paint, it's a bad move. It's not like Tim Duncan and David where Tim actually had that shot. I just don't think they'll both benefit from playing with each other.

Alayla
02-09-2013, 02:21 PM
Tim Duncan

Gators123
02-09-2013, 02:25 PM
A pistons beat writer said yesterday he thought Drummond was close to getting the starting spot. Obviously Monroe would have played the 4.


Season Age Tm Lg Pos G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
2012-13 19 DET NBA C 50 986 22.5 .566 .594 16.3 26.6 21.4 4.0 2.5 6.7 11.0 16.7 115 97 1.9 2.1 4.0 .192

Hes been awesome. It sucks he will be be out for 4-6 weeks. I think he could have been ROY if he played 7-10 more minutes per game.

KniCks4LiFe
02-09-2013, 02:30 PM
Right now. Brook Lopez. You look at that Nets team and after awhile you realize he's the one carrying them. Inconsistant underperforming PG, SG, SF, PF... the only consistant guy on that roster is Brook Lopez.

I'm going to add this. Al Jefferson is overrated, he's not even the best big on his own team. He's underperformed and that's why he's overlooked b/c people make him out to be Malone or something, he ain't even Curry in his best year.

dhopisthename
02-09-2013, 02:31 PM
Thats because his defense is very bad and he is widely known as a block hole/stat stuffer. But he's def made strides but I do still see him more as PF than a true Center.

ill assume you mean black hole, but he is currently 9th for centers in assists per 48 http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avg48Assists/position/centers and his defense isn't half as bad as people make it out to be. also, he will never be a pf he doesn't have the quickness.

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 02:37 PM
ill assume you mean black hole, but he is currently 9th for centers in assists per 48 http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avg48Assists/position/centers and his defense isn't half as bad as people make it out to be. also, he will never be a pf he doesn't have the quickness.

He also has a the highest asst/TO ratio and extremely high usg% 2.2 assists is actually quite pathetic.

rocket
02-09-2013, 02:38 PM
I don't think they'll mesh well on the court together. With that being said, Drummond has huge potential. Probably would've been ROY if he got more minutes.

They played great while they were on the court together.

rocket
02-09-2013, 02:39 PM
I was a huge fan of Drummond coming out but he's not even the best center on his own team let alone the NBA.

Next year Monroe will move to the 4 and Drum to the 5.

Longhornfan1234
02-09-2013, 02:41 PM
Everybody is sleeping on Duncan. 17/10/2 blocks and DPOY front runner.

KniCks4LiFe
02-09-2013, 02:42 PM
Next year Monroe will move to the 4 and Drum to the 5.

that should have been done this year. Monroe has more experience and putting Drummond at C would have been an easier transistion b/c he's more athletic and quicker than most centers. I don't get why they put him at tougher position, the toughest imo in PF. One would think you limit a rook's vulnerability and workload not the vet.

KniCks4LiFe
02-09-2013, 02:42 PM
Everybody is sleeping on Duncan. 17/10/2 blocks and DPOY front runner.

no one is sleeping on him. Duncan is hurt, the question was currently.

DeyAce
02-09-2013, 02:43 PM
Lopez

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 02:45 PM
Everybody is sleeping on Duncan. 17/10/2 blocks and DPOY front runner.

I think at this point in his career everyone realizes it's more the system than it is Duncan. And I doubt he can sustain that during a grueling playoff run with his age and the fact that he is basically a part time player.

OceanSpray
02-09-2013, 02:54 PM
Even though Howard has degenerated, there is no center better than him. Any team besides SAS will probably take a straight center for center trade.

todu82
02-09-2013, 02:55 PM
Dwight Howard.

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 02:56 PM
Even though Howard has degenerated, there is no center better than him. Any team besides SAS will probably take a straight center for center trade.

If your talking about right NOW no way. He is playing at a Kwame Brown level right now. There are plenty of teams who wouldn't do it for the immediate future.

ILLUSIONIST^248
02-09-2013, 03:01 PM
Zepol Koorb backwards
llullz

OceanSpray
02-09-2013, 03:03 PM
If your talking about right NOW no way. He is playing at a Kwame Brown level right now. There are plenty of teams who wouldn't do it for the immediate future.

You must be ********. Dwight Howard was far and away the best center the league had. This year, he dropped a bit. I think people put him from the best center to automatically the 10th best.

Dwight Howard is averaging a higher FG% than last year. He's averaging less turnovers, he's averaging more BPG. Only issue is scoring, which we know who should be at fault.

rocket
02-09-2013, 03:11 PM
If your talking about right NOW no way. He is playing at a Kwame Brown level right now. There are plenty of teams who wouldn't do it for the immediate future.

:laugh: What the ****

waveycrockett
02-09-2013, 03:12 PM
You must be ********. Dwight Howard was far and away the best center the league had. This year, he dropped a bit. I think people put him from the best center to automatically the 10th best.

Dwight Howard is averaging a higher FG% than last year. He's averaging less turnovers, he's averaging more BPG. Only issue is scoring, which we know who should be at fault.
If I'm ******** you must be BLIND. You are talking about the same guy who KG just made look like a fool. Boston would be a worse team today if they traded KG for Dwight. Not 2 years from now but def worse today.

Nick O
02-09-2013, 03:13 PM
true actually its aaron gray

IgglesFanInCO
02-09-2013, 03:32 PM
Kosta Koufos :D

Green_Monster
02-09-2013, 03:43 PM
Zepol Koorb backwards

:laugh2:

b@llhog24
02-09-2013, 03:49 PM
Blind? Okay, now you are ********.

1) Dwight was injured.
2) Dwight is still recovering and he's supposed to have surgery; all which has been delayed because he can't afford to miss games for the sake of LAL.
3) You're saying that one game determines who the best player is?

The logic of your posts are ******** and you should request a ban on your account for your stupidity.

If he's injured then he's not CURRENTLY the best C in the league now is he?

Blitzbolt
02-09-2013, 03:54 PM
By far Marc Gasol his stats are not that great because ZBO steals all his rebounds and Gay use to steal all his shots.

Also some experts have him as the DPOY so far.

dodgersuck
02-09-2013, 04:15 PM
He's not the best in the league but Nikola Vucevic deserves some love, he's a beast on the boards

GrkGawdofWalkz
02-09-2013, 04:20 PM
Cousins and it really isn't that close. Dwight has taken a step back and also has a bad back. He's looking to be damaged goods. "His wittle feewings are hurt pwaying with Kobe.", laugh.

xxplayerxx23
02-09-2013, 04:47 PM
Cousins ? Check out his fg% and get back to me. I'd still say Dwight but I think it's between gasol chandler and Lopez. Also people smack talking Jefferson dont know what they Are talking about at all. He is very very good. Top 6-8 center in the game.

mjt20mik
02-09-2013, 04:59 PM
For me it'll always be a toss up between Dwight and Bynum. Don't think others come close.

JLynn943
02-09-2013, 07:01 PM
People have very different interpretations of "currently." Some are going with the past week or two and some the whole season. This season, I think healthy Noah or Duncan have been the best. The past week or two, I don't know.

Tysons_Beard
02-09-2013, 07:13 PM
For me it'll always be a toss up between Dwight and Bynum. Don't think others come close.

agreed sir

jmoney85
02-09-2013, 08:12 PM
no point in really debating this.... every single one of the top 6-7 centers could all make a case as being the best.... they all have their own things they do better than each other

BULLSFAN0810
02-09-2013, 08:18 PM
Brook Lopez ... kinda a poor mans Tim Duncan/Rik Smits

Sactown
02-10-2013, 02:16 AM
Don't think any one center has pulled away with the title, seems to be a lot of competition. Cousins,Lopez,Noah,Gasol are all viable responses

Max.This
02-10-2013, 02:39 AM
Al jefferson got game, why do ppl just forget about him

sunsfan88
02-10-2013, 02:44 AM
Javale McGee.

strahan92osi72
02-10-2013, 02:47 AM
Al jefferson got game, why do ppl just forget about him

This. I don't get either, he is a beast when he's on.

b@llhog24
02-10-2013, 03:19 AM
Don't think any one center has pulled away with the title, seems to be a lot of competition. Cousins,Lopez,Noah,Gasol are all viable responses

No.

Thegame187
02-10-2013, 03:19 AM
Chandler/Gasol/Lopez all have a decent claim at that title this season.

Amazing that it took until 3/4's down the second page until someone mentioned Lopez. On offense he is the only center that a team is running traditional low post move type basketball through (i.e. A team that starts its offense in the post and kicks out as a second option) with any real success. His defense this year is a dramatic improvement in terms of being more active and controlling the paint (The career high 2.2 blocks is evidence of that), sure he could always get a few more boards but he aint like a Howard, Love, or an Asik where they actively close out all the stray/team boards so he is never going to be a 14rbpg type guy (10 is a realistic goal though).

Also if Bosh and Garnett are to be considered centers then they should be mentioned as well.

PurpleJesus
02-10-2013, 03:41 AM
Cousins and it really isn't that close. Dwight has taken a step back and also has a bad back. He's looking to be damaged goods. "His wittle feewings are hurt pwaying with Kobe.", laugh.

I think he is still about two years away, and a changed attitude from claiming that title...but he is definitely in the top 5 - 10 discussion.

PurpleJesus
02-10-2013, 03:42 AM
Tim Duncan is listed as a PF, but I think we are smarter than that. He is having a fantastic year.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-10-2013, 11:11 AM
Tim Duncan is listed as a PF, but I think we are smarter than that. He is having a fantastic year.

totally agree.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-10-2013, 11:13 AM
People have very different interpretations of "currently." Some are going with the past week or two and some the whole season. This season, I think healthy Noah or Duncan have been the best. The past week or two, I don't know.

i hear you.
when i meant currently i meant this season.

and if people still think its dwight, thats fine..
but he isnt clear cut as he was say last year or the year before.

Gators123
02-10-2013, 11:25 AM
Hes not the best, but Greg Monroe is starting to play a lot better recently.

Lat 10 games hes averaging-

19.4 PPG (57% FG)
11.3 RPG
2.9 APG
1.4 BPG
1.2 SPG

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-10-2013, 11:39 AM
a lot of players are in the mix. horford, lopez, jefferson, cousins (even with the low fg%),gasol, noah, monroe, dwight.

i guess we'll wait until season ends until we officially put a stamp on the best center in the league.

D-Leethal
02-10-2013, 11:45 AM
Crazy that every single one of them wouldn't even be top 10 C in the 80s/90s.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-10-2013, 11:48 AM
Crazy that every single one of them wouldn't even be top 10 C in the 80s/90s.

hahah true

MrfadeawayJB
02-10-2013, 02:02 PM
Homer pick Marc Gasol. If he was as selfish as most NBA players he could easily have better numbers

mynameismo
02-10-2013, 02:13 PM
Tim Duncan

Vinylman
02-10-2013, 02:20 PM
Its kind of anyone's title to take. There's alot of Cs playing solid but nobody really stands out.

if bynum had been healthy this season, no doubt he would be the best center in the league.

I feel your pain sixers fans.

SMFH... so IF Bynum is healthy then him and not D12 IF he was healthy....

ok :rolleyes:

Vinylman
02-10-2013, 02:23 PM
If your talking about right NOW no way. He is playing at a Kwame Brown level right now. There are plenty of teams who wouldn't do it for the immediate future.

pure ignorance