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RenegadeRiot36
02-04-2013, 09:05 PM
http://www.fearthesword.com/2013/2/4/3950694/nba-rumors-all-star-game-starters-chris-bosh-kyrie-irving

I think this is a load of crap. Moving Lebron to PG doesnt change the fact he was voted in as a Forward. Kyrie deserves it and the Heat shouldnt have three guys starting after a replacement.

jmoney85
02-04-2013, 09:07 PM
yea I agree... this is a load of crap

justinnum1
02-04-2013, 09:08 PM
:laugh:

LTBaByyy
02-04-2013, 09:08 PM
The Eastern Conference Heat vs The Western Conference All Stars lol

beasted86
02-04-2013, 09:10 PM
the Heat shouldnt have three guys starting
Are you mad?

b@llhog24
02-04-2013, 09:12 PM
It's really not that serious. :\

dtmagnet
02-04-2013, 09:15 PM
The East all-stars suck either way when you compare them to the West.

ichitownclowni
02-04-2013, 09:17 PM
Its the ****ing all star game who cares. Now what they should put on TV is Derrick Rose week. They put a camera in his house and we watch him live all week. Wow that would be amazing

Ebbs
02-04-2013, 09:18 PM
This thread:

Heat fans: YAYA HE DESERVES IT!

Heat haters: Bosh sucks, he looks like a raptor Kyrie is the real hero.

Everyone else: no one cares.

CavsYanksDuke
02-04-2013, 09:22 PM
Kyrie fans: He's better than Bosh, no doubt. HEAT have the best record, they have the Coach, they get the call. Game over.

kdspurman
02-04-2013, 09:28 PM
Meh whatever. Bosh has been pretty average this year, but with his coach there he can do what he wants. In fact him and KG have been pretty average. They probably go small and take out both of them fairly quickly.

I remember a few years back when the Pistons had 4 guys check in at the same time lol. Only guy missing was Prince.

Blitzbolt
02-04-2013, 09:32 PM
Coach wants to win Kyrie is not a winner(so far anyways).

JNoel
02-04-2013, 09:35 PM
I think Kyrie deserved to start. Probably because Spo got picked as head coach did this happen...

GiantsSwaGG
02-04-2013, 09:37 PM
Might *** well start Haslem over Melo

Blitzbolt
02-04-2013, 09:38 PM
Coach Spo has the best record in the East why do people question him?

Collings94
02-04-2013, 09:40 PM
Honestly, Wade shouldn't even be starting over Paul George, but whatever, its all about the votes, as bogus as that was.

Kyrie Irving shouldn't even be starting, just for some reason the internet is incredibly infatuated with him.

Not a Philly fan, but Holiday deserves that spot.

naps
02-04-2013, 09:45 PM
None of Wade, LeBron, and Bosh should start. They suck.

bucketss
02-04-2013, 09:45 PM
The Eastern Conference Heat vs The Western Conference All Stars lol

*los angeles all stars

2-ONE-5
02-04-2013, 09:53 PM
Holiday should be starting over both of them!

Collings94
02-04-2013, 09:55 PM
Holiday should be starting over both of them!

Holiday is statistically about the same as Irving, he actually accounts for more of his teams offense if you add points and assists up. He is a better pure point guard and he is a much better defender. IDK why people are not showing him any love, but are ballwashing Kyrie.

SeoulBeatz
02-04-2013, 09:59 PM
Holiday is statistically about the same as Irving, he actually accounts for more of his teams offense if you add points and assists up. He is a better pure point guard and he is a much better defender. IDK why people are not showing him any love, but are ballwashing Kyrie.

cause he's not as fast/athletic. But he does everything just as well as kyrie. I'd say they're on equal planes but no one has seen Holiday play, so they just assume he's not as good.

NY007
02-04-2013, 10:06 PM
Here we go.. Heat fans.. Are you mad? Are you mad? Are you mad? Stfu already, Kyrie is hands down way better then Bosh. This is a ****ing joke, Spo kissing his players *****.. Lebron should be at sf, Bosh should be on the bench and quite frankly Bosh isn't even a star player anymore..

smith&wesson
02-04-2013, 10:19 PM
irving is much more exciting to watch for sure.

b@llhog24
02-04-2013, 10:22 PM
Holiday is statistically about the same as Irving, he actually accounts for more of his teams offense if you add points and assists up. He is a better pure point guard and he is a much better defender. IDK why people are not showing him any love, but are ballwashing Kyrie.

No.

beasted86
02-04-2013, 10:22 PM
Here we go.. Heat fans.. Are you mad? Are you mad? Are you mad? Stfu already, Kyrie is hands down way better then Bosh. This is a ****ing joke, Spo kissing his players *****.. Lebron should be at sf, Bosh should be on the bench and quite frankly Bosh isn't even a star player anymore..

Why so serious?

NoahH
02-04-2013, 10:26 PM
From a HEAT fan i think Irving should start but whatevs

xxplayerxx23
02-04-2013, 10:29 PM
:laugh: bosh shouldn't even be an Allstar arguably. But yeah It doesn't matter it's an Allstar game.

xxplayerxx23
02-04-2013, 10:29 PM
None of Wade, LeBron, and Bosh should start. They suck.

This guy knows what he's talking about.

Collings94
02-04-2013, 10:37 PM
No.

Don't believe me? Look at the stats:

Kyrie:http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html

Jrue: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/holidjr01.html

Kyrie is averaging 24-5.5-3 and is shooting 47-41-85

Holiday is averaging 19.5-9-3 and is shooting 46-35-77

Holiday is much more of a pure pg and is a better defender. He's beats Kyrie in DWS and his team is overall much better.

b@llhog24
02-04-2013, 10:43 PM
Don't believe me? Look at the stats:

Kyrie:http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html

Jrue: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/holidjr01.html

Kyrie is averaging 24-5.5-3 and is shooting 47-41-85

Holiday is averaging 19.5-9-3 and is shooting 46-35-77

Holiday is much more of a pure pg and is a better defender. He's beats Kyrie in DWS and his team is overall much better.

I don't care who's more "pure", and I like how you cited that Holiday is ahead of Kyrie in DWS while Kyrie is ahead of Holiday in TS & eFG% and Ortg despite having a significantly higher USG. Lol Kyrie destroys Jrue offensively, and while Jrue Teams are better with him on the court than off it, the Cavs see a more massive drop off when Kyrie takes a break.

TheNumber37
02-04-2013, 10:51 PM
They should have a true PG, doesn't there need to be 2 guards

Kyrie> Bosh. Now and in the future.

justinnum1
02-04-2013, 10:56 PM
They so mad lol

beasted86
02-04-2013, 10:57 PM
They so mad lol

They are. :dance2:

Baller1
02-04-2013, 11:00 PM
This thread:

Heat fans: YAYA HE DESERVES IT!

Heat haters: Bosh sucks, he looks like a raptor Kyrie is the real hero.

Everyone else: no one cares.

Bingo.

MTL_123
02-04-2013, 11:01 PM
lol

koreancabbage
02-04-2013, 11:02 PM
They should have a true PG, doesn't there need to be 2 guards

Kyrie> Bosh. Now and in the future.

LOL Spo is the coach. he doesn't play with a traditional lineup on the Heat team and they are first. Lebron to Melo all day long. Melo is gonna go off if all he has to do is shoot 3's the whole game.

BirdIsTheWord
02-04-2013, 11:05 PM
I wouldn't think the Heat guys would get huge minutes anyway (until the 4th quarter) with Spo as coach. It's not really much of an issue.

gotoHcarolina52
02-04-2013, 11:11 PM
You show your ostrich some love and you avoid the LeBron-Kyrie storylines. A win-win.

2-ONE-5
02-04-2013, 11:13 PM
I don't care who's more "pure", and I like how you cited that Holiday is ahead of Kyrie in DWS while Kyrie is ahead of Holiday in TS & eFG% and Ortg despite having a significantly higher USG. Lol Kyrie destroys Jrue offensively, and while Jrue Teams are better with him on the court than off it, the Cavs see a more massive drop off when Kyrie takes a break.

The Sixers and Cavs split this season so far with the Cavs winning the game without Irviing...
and in the game he played Jrue held him to 4-14 shooting with 9 pts, 4 ast and 5 TO's to Jrues 6-14 shooting 14 pts, 9 ast, and 2 turnvoers

SteBO
02-04-2013, 11:18 PM
I woluldn't mind Bosh starting, and if you're Spo you don't want to piss off your owner. Remember Micky was pushing really hard to get Bosh voted in as a starter from the get-go. If the opportunity is there, Spo's gotta take it. If I were the coach though, I'd most likely start Kyrie. But that's just me.....can't go wrong either way.

RenegadeRiot36
02-04-2013, 11:22 PM
The Sixers and Cavs split this season so far with the Cavs winning the game without Irviing...
and in the game he played Jrue held him to 4-14 shooting with 9 pts, 4 ast and 5 TO's to Jrues 6-14 shooting 14 pts, 9 ast, and 2 turnvoers

You are going to base this on one head to head game and expect people to agree with you? You might as well just not make an argument.

Cool007
02-04-2013, 11:27 PM
The Eastern Conference Heat vs The Western Conference All Stars lol

Eastern Conference Heat Team vs Western Conference LA Team.

On a serious note. I think it's a very good idea to start Bosh (would have preferred Noah or Chandler or even Lopez) since those other guys are a center.

LeBron and D-wade are both pretty damn good ball handlers and passers and they can share the PG duties. Kyrie might get his chance next year or later in his career. ALthough, this year was a great chance for him to start since Rose and Rondo will be the favs to start every year.

2-ONE-5
02-04-2013, 11:28 PM
You are going to base this on one head to head game and expect people to agree with you? You might as well just not make an argument.

no but the other dude can use a similar bs argument?. Also the Sixers went 0-4 without Jrue this year and we have much more talent then the Cavs (not that it says much).

SINCESTARBURY25
02-04-2013, 11:31 PM
Kyrie deserves to start.

JasonJohnHorn
02-05-2013, 12:38 AM
I don't care that much to be honest, but since Spo is the coaches, I'm not surprised. It seems like a conflict of interest to me. If the Heat are going to play LBJ at PG, perhaps he should be listed as such on the ballot? Since the East line up is so small, I think it would actually make more sense to start a center in place of Rondo if they are going to move LBJ to PG. Have Lopez or Chandler start at C and Garnett at PF.

b@llhog24
02-05-2013, 12:40 AM
The Sixers and Cavs split this season so far with the Cavs winning the game without Irviing...
and in the game he played Jrue held him to 4-14 shooting with 9 pts, 4 ast and 5 TO's to Jrues 6-14 shooting 14 pts, 9 ast, and 2 turnvoers

What the **** does this have to do with my post?

Vincent33
02-05-2013, 12:52 AM
Whatever. Kyrie will end up starting more ASGs than Bosh in the end.

Lions #81
02-05-2013, 02:17 AM
I haven't watched the all star game in years.

Dade County
02-05-2013, 02:34 AM
Lbj is a better pg then Kyrie :shrug:

But Bosh shouldn't be starting :shrug:

IversonIsKrazy
02-05-2013, 02:43 AM
I think Kyrie would've deserved it. I understand that it's the "all-star game" who cares. But the selection of All-star means something, it's an honor, it shows that u r one of the best and deserve to be their, ESPECIALLY when it's voted by Coaches which is how Bosh got selected over Kyrie, and I think was a mistake.
O well, Kyrie will be dominating for many years to come while Bosh will be remembered as a dinosaur sidekick.

Lakers + Giants
02-05-2013, 03:23 AM
It would be something if the AS game meant as much as it does in baseball. It doesn't though so it doesn't matter.

Baller1
02-05-2013, 04:12 AM
What the **** does this have to do with my post?

:laugh2:

gotoHcarolina52
02-05-2013, 04:55 AM
Bosh has taken 181 from midrange (between 16 and 22ft) this season. He's made 101 of them.

56%

His mid-range jumper is absolutely lethal. Best in the league, in fact. And no one comes close.

[Source (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=single&year_id=2013&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=16&shot_distance_max=22&q1=Y&q2=Y&q3=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=12&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=fga&c1comp=ge&c1val=150&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg_pct)]

kdspurman
02-05-2013, 10:32 AM
Lbj is a better pg then Kyrie :shrug:

But Bosh shouldn't be starting :shrug:

Don't agree Bosh should be starting... I don't think anyone, even heat fans can look at his play and consider him an All Star starter. Yes he gets a ton of open/uncontested shots, but he's been so inconsistent this year.

Spo will do what he wants, he earned that coaching spot so its his call

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-05-2013, 10:33 AM
first time a trio started the ASG since 90s with magic and co. :cool:

Manimal
02-05-2013, 10:47 AM
Bosh shouldn't even be at the ASG. That's Brook Lopezs' spot. But I hate the ASG anyway. The selections are stupid, the starters are stupid and the game is stupid.

AI
02-05-2013, 10:52 AM
Doesn't matter, but I agree, Kyrie should start.

JackB
02-05-2013, 10:54 AM
Allstar game? What a freaking joke. Yawn !!!

JackB
02-05-2013, 10:57 AM
first time a trio started the ASG since 90s with magic and co. :cool:


Really ????? I'm impressed. Must be Miami has the most fans going to games. Do they had out 100 ballots to every fan that walks through the gate? The asg is such a joke. Always deserving players getting screwed.

2-ONE-5
02-05-2013, 11:11 AM
What the **** does this have to do with my post?

you said the Cavs are much worse when Irving is off the floor compared to Jrue. In this case you are wrong

koreancabbage
02-05-2013, 11:24 AM
Bosh shouldn't even be at the ASG. That's Brook Lopezs' spot. But I hate the ASG anyway. The selections are stupid, the starters are stupid and the game is stupid.

maybe you shouldn't comment on this if you think the game is stupid and then show how frustrated you are in the fact that Brook Lopez was selected other than an injury replacement.

coaches don't think so. and they know more than you. and Brook Lopez got in after all. so what are you complaining about.

NBA-GMaster
02-05-2013, 12:18 PM
Who cares!! :shrug:

Blitzbolt
02-05-2013, 12:22 PM
Bosh is proven a Vet he deserves it Kyrie puts up empty stats on a bad team why would you reward that?

Manimal
02-05-2013, 12:31 PM
maybe you shouldn't comment on this if you think the game is stupid and then show how frustrated you are in the fact that Brook Lopez was selected other than an injury replacement.

coaches don't think so. and they know more than you. and Brook Lopez got in after all. so what are you complaining about.

Couldn't give two less ***** about it. Brook deserves the all-star recognition next to his name this season. Whether he starts or not is pointless.

For me an all-star nod signifies that a player has played above the level of his peers for a season. Instead its turned into a popularity contest. And the game is just pontless anyways.

And there is no evidence to whether the coaches know more than me or not. Especially since you have no idea who I am. Probably I am a coach, may be I am not. You have no idea, so stop talking out of your arse.

hugepatsfan
02-05-2013, 12:47 PM
I know it's not a big deal to us, but it really isn't fair to Irving at all. I don't mean to be dramatic, but he could blow his knee out and never get a chance to start an all star game because the NBA thought it would be cooler to have 3 Heat players in the lineup. Absolutely disgusting and the reason why the NBA isn't nearly as exciting for me as the other sports.

DR_1
02-05-2013, 12:50 PM
Starting lineup should be:

Kyrie
Paul "I grew 2 inches" George
LeBron
Melo
Any of the East centers except Lopez

koreancabbage
02-05-2013, 12:56 PM
Couldn't give two less ***** about it. Brook deserves the all-star recognition next to his name this season. Whether he starts or not is pointless.

For me an all-star nod signifies that a player has played above the level of his peers for a season. Instead its turned into a popularity contest. And the game is just pontless anyways.

And there is no evidence to whether the coaches know more than me or not. Especially since you have no idea who I am. Probably I am a coach, may be I am not. You have no idea, so stop talking out of your arse.

lol i would give the benefit of the doubt that you aren't and even if you were, shut the **** up

=)

ILLUSIONIST^248
02-05-2013, 01:01 PM
Are you mad?

Bosh starting is laughable.

ILLUSIONIST^248
02-05-2013, 01:02 PM
Bosh is proven a Vet he deserves it Kyrie puts up empty stats on a bad team why would you reward that?

What a stupid comment.

Stinkyoutsider
02-05-2013, 01:38 PM
I'm not worried about who's starting. It's who's going to play the most minutes and finish the game. I don't think Bosh will get quite that many minutes but I think Irving will get a good run out there.

After all, the game usually gets serious mid-way through the 3rd quarter, when players start to realize they want to win the game lol.

SteBO
02-05-2013, 04:35 PM
Bosh starting is laughable.

If were a betting man, I’d bet that you were a guy who doesn’t think it’s laughable that KG got the starting nod, despite the fact Bosh is having the better year statistically. Regardless, Spo earned the coaching spot, so he deserves to make any decision he wants to in regards to who starts or finishes.
Also, his loyalties are to the Miami Heat franchise. I wouldn’t blame Spo one bit should he start Bosh.

ILLUSIONIST^248
02-05-2013, 05:01 PM
If were a betting man, I’d bet that you were a guy who doesn’t think it’s laughable that KG got the starting nod, despite the fact Bosh is having the better year statistically. Regardless, Spo earned the coaching spot, so he deserves to make any decision he wants to in regards to who starts or finishes.
Also, his loyalties are to the Miami Heat franchise. I wouldn’t blame Spo one bit should he start Bosh.

Meh. Doesn't change the fact the bosh shouldn't be starting.

OceanSpray
02-05-2013, 05:03 PM
Meh. Doesn't change the fact the bosh shouldn't be starting.

Name one player who deserves it more than Bosh from the East.

xxplayerxx23
02-05-2013, 05:56 PM
Name one player who deserves it more than Bosh from the East.

Chandler Lopez Noah Irving jrue. But besides that you are correct.
Actually josh smith and al horford deserve it too hmmm

xxplayerxx23
02-05-2013, 05:58 PM
I don't mind spo choice I understand it. But that doesn't mean I agree with it.

OceanSpray
02-05-2013, 06:04 PM
You guys are naming players who don't have to sacrifice anything. Chris Bosh has to sacrifice literally every part of his game to play with Miami and he's producing at a high level. I'm sorry but no one in the East has more accolades and impact on a team than Bosh.

Ty Fast
02-05-2013, 07:32 PM
The Eastern Conference Heat vs The Western Conference All Stars lol

you mean the heat vs the la all stars with d12, kobe, paul, and blake

ILLUSIONIST^248
02-05-2013, 07:49 PM
Name one player who deserves it more than Bosh from the East.

Player just did. Thank you come again

ILLUSIONIST^248
02-05-2013, 07:51 PM
You guys are naming players who don't have to sacrifice anything. Chris Bosh has to sacrifice literally every part of his game to play with Miami and he's producing at a high level. I'm sorry but no one in the East has more accolades and impact on a team than Bosh.

Accolades mean nothing when talking about who should start the allstar game. No one has the impact that bosh does? Don't be funny.

c.c.
02-05-2013, 08:04 PM
Kyrie should be starting!

SteBO
02-05-2013, 08:16 PM
If Mike Woodson was the coach, I guarantee you he'd be starting Chandler. No doubt about that; Kyrie would be an after thought for the starting job regardless, and I love the guy.

gotoHcarolina52
02-05-2013, 08:39 PM
Accolades mean nothing when talking about who should start the allstar game. No one has the impact that bosh does? Don't be funny.

:confused:

b@llhog24
02-05-2013, 11:10 PM
you said the Cavs are much worse when Irving is off the floor.

The Sixers score 103.1 points per 100 possessions when Jrue's on the floor, that number dips to 102.3 when he sits. The allow 106.1 points per 100 poss when he's on the court and 109.4 when he's off the court. Net possessions = +4.1

While the Cavs score 107 possessions when Kyrie's on the floor and drop 7 points to 100.3 points per 100 possessions. They allow 110.6 points while he's on the floor, and the give up a 109 points when he's off the floor. Net possessions= + 5.3

You were saying?

2-ONE-5
02-05-2013, 11:14 PM
Irving has missed more time and like I said the Cavs beat the Sixers without him and scored more pts. Again Sixers are 0-4 without Jrue. Both are the most important players on the team, they are both worthy, Jrue should have the edge but its better for the league if it were Irving

b@llhog24
02-05-2013, 11:21 PM
Irving has missed more time and like I said the Cavs beat the Sixers without him and scored more pts. Again Sixers are 0-4 without Jrue. Both are the most important players on the team, they are both worthy, Jrue should have the edge but its better for the league if it were Irving

It's only based on games that they actually play, has nothing to do with who missed time or whatever. And the Sixers aren't very good, it shouldn't really come as a surprise that if you take away a teams primary ball handler, that they'd be worse than they already are.

sunsfan88
02-06-2013, 04:14 AM
Coach Spo has the best record in the East why do people question him?

Because having the best record in the East with LeBron, Wade and Bosh isn't much of a feat?

Even Mike Brown had the Cavs with the best record in the East once or twice when LeBron played in Cleveland....that must mean Mike Brown is a great HC and people shouldn't question his moves, right?

Raps18-19 Champ
02-06-2013, 05:05 AM
I guess they want to match up with the big front court of Blake and Dwight. Makes sense. But Kyrie sure as hell deserves it more than Bosh.

AussieLaker
02-06-2013, 06:17 AM
No way should bosh start. That's just stupid
Kyrie should.