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DoMeFavors
01-30-2013, 06:01 PM
I wonder if he will start?

phlp_bj
01-30-2013, 06:01 PM
nah irving will start

Hawkeye15
01-30-2013, 06:02 PM
nah, he won't start, but I like the addition. He deserves to be there.

DallasTrilla23
01-30-2013, 06:05 PM
I wonder if he will start?

At PG? I would love to see that!

Brook deserves it tho.

LongIslandIcedZ
01-30-2013, 06:05 PM
Good move. He was the right choice.

YoungOne
01-30-2013, 06:12 PM
rightfully so, silenced alot of his critics

blahblahyoutoo
01-30-2013, 06:18 PM
Well deserved.

SteBO
01-30-2013, 06:21 PM
He deserves this honor.....the right choice was made here.

xxplayerxx23
01-30-2013, 06:23 PM
Well deserved. He can't start KG was voted a starter.

xxplayerxx23
01-30-2013, 06:24 PM
I thought deron was goin to get it. That would of been a terrible choice glad the right guy was picked.

BigBlueCrew
01-30-2013, 06:25 PM
good, now we can stop all the whining...why didnt Lopez make it? who was the biggest snub? did the coaches snub because avery was fired? why didnt anyone from brooklyn make it geez waah waah waah :)

oak2455
01-30-2013, 06:29 PM
I can't wait to see big bird going up and down the floor in the ASG open court game...... But well deserved

Korman12
01-30-2013, 06:52 PM
good, now we can stop all the whining...why didnt Lopez make it? who was the biggest snub? did the coaches snub because avery was fired? why didnt anyone from brooklyn make it geez waah waah waah :)

You'd be surprised how the legions of morons are pining that JR Smith should have been taken instead.

KniCks4LiFe
01-30-2013, 06:54 PM
good for him, he deserved it.

Super.
01-30-2013, 06:57 PM
solid choice

netsgiantsyanks
01-30-2013, 07:05 PM
yay.

ManRam
01-30-2013, 08:07 PM
It's funny that JR Smith and some Knicks fans are mad.

I mean, a guy who's regarded as a scorer and a scorer only...who is averaging 16 points on under 40% shooting? It would have been a joke if he made it.


Lopez is around 4,507 times more deserving than Smith.

Chill_Will_24
01-30-2013, 08:14 PM
I would be surprised if he gets 8 minutes of playing time. He is a terrible fit for the All Star game. Chandler, and Bosh will get the bulk of the minutes.

Chill_Will_24
01-30-2013, 08:15 PM
It's funny that JR Smith and some Knicks fans are mad.

I mean, a guy who's regarded as a scorer and a scorer only...who is averaging 16 points on under 40% shooting? It would have been a joke if he made it.


Lopez is around 4,507 times more deserving than Smith.

Agreed but he does not have any tattoos and he likes yugioh cards and comic books. Fans do not really respect him. How many people got voted ahead of him and he is the leading scorer among centers and top 5 in PER?

tnewkirk
01-30-2013, 08:21 PM
once again to all the morons who said he's not a top 10 center :facepalm: i might have been the only one saying he's gonna be an all star this year and i dont have a favorite nba team.

Kashmir13579
01-30-2013, 08:21 PM
obvious choice

ManRam
01-30-2013, 08:23 PM
Agreed but he does not have any tattoos and he likes yugioh cards and comic books. Fans do not really respect him. How many people got voted ahead of him and he is the leading scorer among centers and top 5 in PER?

He's certainly not a guy I really actually want to see in an exhibition game. He's not terribly exciting.

But still, put the best players in, and he's been one of the 10 best in the East this year. JR Smith has not.

LAKobeBryant
01-30-2013, 08:23 PM
steph curry deserves the east replacement spot more than lopez.

jmoney85
01-30-2013, 08:37 PM
steph curry deserves the east replacement spot more than lopez.

is steph curry top 5 in the league in per?

LAKobeBryant
01-30-2013, 08:48 PM
is steph curry top 5 in the league in per?

Andre Drummond's per is higher than Tyson Chandler. Does that mean Drummond should replace Chandler?

lamzoka
01-30-2013, 08:55 PM
Brook Lopez the starting PG for the east. lol

ILLUSIONIST^248
01-30-2013, 08:58 PM
It's funny that JR Smith and some Knicks fans are mad.

I mean, a guy who's regarded as a scorer and a scorer only...who is averaging 16 points on under 40% shooting? It would have been a joke if he made it.


Lopez is around 4,507 times more deserving than Smith.

4,508

xxplayerxx23
01-30-2013, 09:00 PM
It's funny that JR Smith and some Knicks fans are mad.

I mean, a guy who's regarded as a scorer and a scorer only...who is averaging 16 points on under 40% shooting? It would have been a joke if he made
Lopez is around 4,507 times more deserving than Smith.

Jr smith deserves to be nowhere near the Allstar team he started off great but he has been **** for a while lol I mean playing like **** lol

Sactown
01-30-2013, 09:16 PM
Definitely deserved it even if his talent wont translate in an exhibition game. IMO so far this season, best center in the NBA

jmoney85
01-30-2013, 09:21 PM
Andre Drummond's per is higher than Tyson Chandler. Does that mean Drummond should replace Chandler?

are either of them top 5 in the league in per?

Kashmir13579
01-30-2013, 09:28 PM
It's funny that JR Smith and some Knicks fans are mad.

I mean, a guy who's regarded as a scorer and a scorer only...who is averaging 16 points on under 40% shooting? It would have been a joke if he made it.


Lopez is around 4,507 times more deserving than Smith.

I think its funny that literally no Knick fan in this thread has voiced their "mad".

There are like - two posters in the entire Knick forum that lobbied for JR to be an allstar after his recent play.

You just like to poke Knick fans with a stick.

jmoney85
01-30-2013, 09:31 PM
I think its funny that literally no Knick fan in this thread has voiced their "mad".

There are like - two posters in the entire Knick forum that lobbied for JR to be an allstar after his recent play.

You just like to poke Knick fans with a stick.

to be fair I think that number was a lot higher than 2

Kashmir13579
01-30-2013, 09:50 PM
to be fair I think that number was a lot higher than 2

Your sig says more about you than it says about Knick fans.

GiantsSwaGG
01-30-2013, 09:53 PM
Your sig says more about you than it says about Knick fans.

Lol

Kashmir13579
01-30-2013, 09:55 PM
Lol

Don't think i'm in your corner, guy...

Avenged
01-30-2013, 11:11 PM
Should have made the original reserve squad but whatever. Better late than never.

king4day
01-30-2013, 11:24 PM
I couldn't imagine a top 4 team in the east not having a single representative. That would have been a joke.

Im_in_Mia_bish
01-30-2013, 11:43 PM
Well deserved imo

GiantsSwaGG
01-30-2013, 11:44 PM
Don't think i'm in your corner, guy...

Don't want you to be son ;)

Machine13
01-30-2013, 11:48 PM
Good choice, he has had an all star season. He is much more deserving than Garnett who shouldn't even be on the bench but hey, fan voting.

THE MTL
01-31-2013, 12:30 AM
I think they should move Lebron to start at PG. And then bring Chandler in as the starting center :D.

(but seriously they'll probaby just make Irving the starter)

THE MTL
01-31-2013, 12:32 AM
It's funny that JR Smith and some Knicks fans are mad.

I mean, a guy who's regarded as a scorer and a scorer only...who is averaging 16 points on under 40% shooting? It would have been a joke if he made it.


Lopez is around 4,507 times more deserving than Smith.

There is NOT one KNick who posted and said they were mad. Everyone said deserved.

Stop trolling. you clown.

knicks=love
01-31-2013, 12:57 AM
I wonder if he will start?

:laugh2:


steph curry deserves the east replacement spot more than lopez.

this.

29$JerZ
01-31-2013, 12:59 AM
Lopez is replacing the starting PG, no way in the world he starts.
Besides, Chandler deserves to start over both KG and Lopez. Best Center in his own division.
If Spoelstra is the coach however I see Bosh starting at C.

cleptopot
01-31-2013, 03:00 AM
I thought deron was goin to get it. That would of been a terrible choice glad the right guy was picked.
:facepalm:

rockbottom2010
01-31-2013, 07:44 AM
howard gets injured and can't play in the all-star game....i expect steph curry to replace d12

jmoney85
01-31-2013, 05:38 PM
Lopez is replacing the starting PG, no way in the world he starts.
Besides, Chandler deserves to start over both KG and Lopez. Best Center in his own division.
If Spoelstra is the coach however I see Bosh starting at C.

ha

ndfightirish12
01-31-2013, 06:09 PM
Lopez is replacing the starting PG, no way in the world he starts.
Besides, Chandler deserves to start over both KG and Lopez. Best Center in his own division.
If Spoelstra is the coach however I see Bosh starting at C.

Hahah this is too funny

Ebbs
01-31-2013, 06:55 PM
Right decision

LongIslandIcedZ
01-31-2013, 07:14 PM
I said in the other thread that he was the biggest snub, and if someone gets hurt he should be in. Rondo got hurt and he got in.

I dont see how anyone can justify him starting though. KG won the popular vote, and Chandler and Bosh were both picked by the coach ahead of him. He shouldnt start.

Glad he made it though, he is that teams best player.

GiantsSwaGG
01-31-2013, 07:29 PM
He won't play more than 5 mins

DR_1
01-31-2013, 07:37 PM
Carlos Boozer snubbed, big surprise.

Im_in_Mia_bish
01-31-2013, 07:39 PM
Carlos Boozer snubbed, big surprise.

hmm i thought u were a warriors fan?
if not, than nvm lol you excited about drose returning?

xxplayerxx23
01-31-2013, 07:44 PM
If Woodson was Coach this is how the mins would work
Lebron (45)
Wade(44)
Melo(10)
Kg(45)
Lopez(40)
Tyson(4)
Bosh(40)

xxplayerxx23
01-31-2013, 07:45 PM
Carlos Boozer snubbed, big surprise.

And who did he deserve to get in over?

DR_1
01-31-2013, 08:18 PM
hmm i thought u were a warriors fan?
if not, than nvm lol you excited about drose returning?

Lol my username is drose why would I be a Warriors fan :laugh2:

DR_1
01-31-2013, 08:19 PM
And who did he deserve to get in over?

Brook Lopez for one.

DoMeFavors
01-31-2013, 08:20 PM
If Woodson was Coach this is how the mins would work
Lebron (45)
Wade(44)
Melo(10)
Kg(45)
Lopez(40)
Tyson(4)
Bosh(40)

they arent playing defense and the other team isnt fouling so its not like it would matter.

Sactown
01-31-2013, 08:22 PM
Brook Lopez for one.

That's a joke
Boozer was better last year than he was this year... he's so inefficient this season

DoMeFavors
01-31-2013, 08:25 PM
Brook Lopez for one.

Bulls dont deserve 3 all stars especially when they arent even top 2 in the EAST

29$JerZ
01-31-2013, 08:58 PM
ha

How can I respond to this?
Oh I know, haha.

Sactown
01-31-2013, 09:00 PM
How can I respond to this?
Oh I know, haha.

Why do you believe Tyson Chandler is better than Brook Lopez

xxplayerxx23
01-31-2013, 09:02 PM
they arent playing defense and the other team isnt fouling so its not like it would matter.

Lol I know but it would have them break a sweat ;)

GiantsSwaGG
01-31-2013, 09:09 PM
Why do you believe Tyson Chandler is better than Brook Lopez

Take time to figure that one out

abe_froman
01-31-2013, 09:11 PM
Brook Lopez for one.

dont be a homer

29$JerZ
01-31-2013, 09:12 PM
Why do you believe Tyson Chandler is better than Brook Lopez

Too many to name.
The only distinct advantage Lopez has on Chandler is a complete offensive game and excellent post moves.
Chandler pretty much is better at everything else.
That's as simple as I can put it.

DoMeFavors
01-31-2013, 09:12 PM
If Tyson Chandler is the best center in his conference then there most be NO dominate centers in this league. Cause a role player isnt the best center. He has played for 12 years in the NBA and hasnt developed his game at all.
I hope you all know from 01-10 this guy was one of the biggest busts to ever lace up his sneakers. Then he gets put on an already championship team in Dallas and they win and then he goes to NY where Landry Fields looks good and Jeremy Lin looks like a superstar.

In the early 2000s Tyson Chandler currently wouldnt be a top 25 center.

29$JerZ
01-31-2013, 09:17 PM
If Tyson Chandler is the best center in his conference then there most be NO dominate centers in this league. Cause a role player isnt the best center. He has played for 12 years in the NBA and hasnt developed his game at all.
I hope you all know from 01-10 this guy was one of the biggest busts to ever lace up his sneakers. Then he gets put on an already championship team in Dallas and they win and then he goes to NY where Landry Fields looks good and Jeremy Lin looks like a superstar.


In the early 2000s Tyson Chandler currently wouldnt be a top 25 center.

He isn't a bust, you just like to throw that out there with nothing tangible attached to it.
He has a ring and was the anchor for the team that beat Miami in the finals. A Bust isn't capable of that.
Center's in today's NBA don't need to score to be effective so your entire point is absurd.

It's pretty sad how that point still hasn't sunk into your head nor never will.
Your definitions of words are just comically bad.

DoMeFavors
01-31-2013, 09:22 PM
He isn't a bust, you just like to throw that out there with nothing tangible attached to it.
He has a ring and was the anchor for the team that beat Miami in the finals. A Bust isn't capable of that.
Center's in today's NBA don't need to score to be effective so your entire point is absurd.

It's pretty sad how that point still hasn't sunk into your head nor never will.
Your definitions of words are just comically bad.

Sorry but growing a beard and getting some tattooos doesnt suddenly change you as a player. Dallas had a ton of talent and they replaced Erik Dampier with Chandler. That is an upgrade cause Dampier sucked. But he played defense, out of the starting 5 of Kidd,JJ Barea, Marion, Dirk, Chandler he was probably the least effective. He guarded Kendrick Perkins in the thunder series and Joel Anthony in Miami series. Kidd was the passer, JJ Baera couldnt be guarded, Marion guarded LeBron and DUrant well, and Dirk played out of his mind. Terry also was great. Chandler added to them as a team but isnt the top reason they won.
And if he wasnt a bust why was he picked 2nd overall and passed from team to team for 10 years?

HE is servicable but he shouldnt have been 2nd overall, shouldnt be an all star, and shouldnt be making over 6 million.

Sactown
01-31-2013, 09:38 PM
Too many to name.
The only distinct advantage Lopez has on Chandler is a complete offensive game and excellent post moves.
Chandler pretty much is better at everything else.
That's as simple as I can put it.

Tyson Chandler rebounds more often, but he's also on a significantly worse rebounding team who players at a higher pace.
Brook Lopez is a far better offensive player
Brook Lopez blocks shots twice as often as Chandler does.
The Knicks defensive has dropped in each category this season, while the Nets has gone up this season, especially in points in the paint now that Brook is on the floor (jumped 6 spots).
Brook Lopez isn't a liability on the defensive end, but Tyson is on the offensive end..

Also Brook smushes Tyson in PER. in fact Brook is top 5 in the league..

xxplayerxx23
01-31-2013, 09:42 PM
But you are wrong. Tyson isn't a liability on offense. Tyson is a monster rebounder a better defender and efficient. Him being a threat to get lobs opens up the shooters and allows Felton/Kidd to have open shots/floaters. Blocks doesn't show how much of a defender you are. The nets lack a defensive perimeter defender,which adds to teams getting more into the paint. Lopez has been very solid but his rebounding is meh and his defense while improved is still not very good

DR_1
01-31-2013, 09:46 PM
Did I just see Tyson Chandler called a roll player? No doubt he has his flaws, but he is much more than a roll player. He earned his spot on the All Star team this year.

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-31-2013, 09:52 PM
I think many are talking about Brooks defense like they've watched him all season. Watch him this year, watch him two years prior, he is defending the rim VERY well.

To say he is a below average defender is a bit ridiculous with the strides he's taken this season.

rockbottom2010
01-31-2013, 09:53 PM
i called it from the beginning....its smart that king kept lopez instead of trading him

DoMeFavors
01-31-2013, 10:05 PM
But you are wrong. Tyson isn't a liability on offense. Tyson is a monster rebounder a better defender and efficient. Him being a threat to get lobs opens up the shooters and allows Felton/Kidd to have open shots/floaters. Blocks doesn't show how much of a defender you are. The nets lack a defensive perimeter defender,which adds to teams getting more into the paint. Lopez has been very solid but his rebounding is meh and his defense while improved is still not very good

Tyson is an efficent scorer cause he isnt told to score, he gets scoring off of wide open shots basically. if you put Tyson on a team and told him to be the first or 2nd option his FG % would be below 50% and he would be lost.
Also there was a STAT that teams get less points in the paint with Lopez on the court then Tyson. Also Brook plays less than 30 minutes a game.

xxplayerxx23
01-31-2013, 10:16 PM
I think many are talking about Brooks defense like they've watched him all season. Watch him this year, watch him two years prior, he is defending the rim VERY well.

To say he is a below average defender is a bit ridiculous with the strides he's taken this season.

Me? I have said he improved. 100% but eh I wouldn't call him a good defender yet but I like the strides he has made.

xxplayerxx23
01-31-2013, 10:19 PM
Tyson is an efficent scorer cause he isnt told to score, he gets scoring off of wide open shots basically. if you put Tyson on a team and told him to be the first or 2nd option his FG % would be below 50% and he would be lost.
Also there was a STAT that teams get less points in the paint with Lopez on the court then Tyson. Also Brook plays less than 30 minutes a game.

Your point? Really it doesn't matter what is asked of him because he still is a 12-11 guy with great efficientcy and defense. Find me the stat. I've been impressed with Lopez devolpement on defense but there is no way anybody is going to back Lopez being a better defender. Tyson is one of the best post defenders in the game

DoMeFavors
01-31-2013, 10:22 PM
Your point? Really it doesn't matter what is asked of him because he still is a 12-11 guy with great efficientcy and defense. Find me the stat. I've been impressed with Lopez devolpement on defense but there is no way anybody is going to back Lopez being a better defender. Tyson is one of the best post defenders in the game

Im not discrediting Tyson's defense ive said he is a good defender. But Nene scored efficently and actually took jumpers and avg like 15 points. When you play with Carmelo or Dirk you are going to get open dunks. Tyson isnt a better player than Brook.

xxplayerxx23
01-31-2013, 10:27 PM
Im not discrediting Tyson's defense ive said he is a good defender. But Nene scored efficently and actually took jumpers and avg like 15 points. When you play with Carmelo or Dirk you are going to get open dunks. Tyson isnt a better player than Brook.

But the fact that he still is a threat with te lobs and with those lobs he spaces the floor and still does his job. He controls the boards and that with his defense is what you look from a center. IMO brook is the better player but handler is the. Better center is chandler. Me personally I want my center to defend rebound and clean up. No disrespect to Lopez I like his game

jmoney85
01-31-2013, 11:48 PM
for a player that only "rebounds" and "defends" he hasnt that been impressive....


#1 if they didn't count backtaps as rebounds (which they shouldn't) then he would be a mediocre rebounder.

#2 his defense doesn't have that much of an impact considering the knicks BLOW on defense collectively... and tyson doesn't always shut down his opposing center

bklynny67
02-01-2013, 12:08 AM
But what happened to DMF saying Joe Johnson was definitely making the team? And that Lopez would make it over Chandler? Oh, he was just wrong again about both of those. That's all.

At least Lopez made it as an injury replacement. He was the best remaining choice.

Robbw241
02-01-2013, 12:17 AM
A Brook vs Tyson debate, I've never seen this one before. :bla:

DieHardCubFan
02-01-2013, 12:25 AM
I was hoping for Boozer to make it, but Lopez deserves it. There are a lot of solid players that could be allstars that aren't.

DoMeFavors
02-01-2013, 02:30 AM
Even Mike Woodson told Tyson he isnt playing like an all star.

javsvt
02-01-2013, 02:53 AM
Blah, blah, blah, can't you enjoy your center being an allstar instead of comparing him to another allstar? You are obsessed with the Knicks......LOL

JOhnnyTHaJet
02-01-2013, 06:55 AM
Blah, blah, blah, can't you enjoy your center being an allstar instead of comparing him to another allstar? You are obsessed with the Knicks......LOL

And you and your fellow fans are obsessed with DMFs and his actions. Seems about even to me....."LOL".

javsvt
02-01-2013, 09:02 AM
Ummm, you must be blind, knick fans try to counter his post. He is just too good at, well you know the word, starts with a T, and ends with a G. Don't want to say anything offensive, I got a infraction the other day, for what I have no idea.:confused:

koreancabbage
02-01-2013, 09:51 AM
Even Mike Woodson told Tyson he isnt playing like an all star.

regardless, Chandler is on the second best team in the East right now and coaches voted in Chandler. and Woodson can't vote for his own guy. so whatever. obviously all the coaches think otherwise of Brook Lopez (not saying that he isn't worth a selection but they see Chandler as more important) and plus, Chandler is having a better season than last year

D-Leethal
02-01-2013, 10:45 AM
I willing to bet Spo doesn't play Brook near as much as Tyson/Noah. Tyson is going to get countless lobs running the floor with LeBron, Kyrie and co. Lopez probably won't even touch the ball. His game is not built for an all star game. I will say he was the most deserving guy out there though.

oak2455
02-01-2013, 11:05 AM
Big bird can't run like that homie

LongIslandIcedZ
02-01-2013, 11:16 AM
for a player that only "rebounds" and "defends" he hasnt that been impressive....


#1 if they didn't count backtaps as rebounds (which they shouldn't) then he would be a mediocre rebounder.

#2 his defense doesn't have that much of an impact considering the knicks BLOW on defense collectively... and tyson doesn't always shut down his opposing center

That's such a ridiculous comment. Only about half of his backtaps count as rebounds, as they should. The ones that are counted as rebounds, why shouldnt they be? If Chandler doesnt tap it back to a teammate, then the other team gets the board, why shouldnt it count as a rebound?

D-Leethal
02-01-2013, 11:22 AM
Most of Chandlers tap backs don't even count as rebounds for him. I'd say about 1/3 of them do. Considering he gets about 1-2 per game, and plenty of games he doesn't tap back ANY, I think its safe to say they don't skew his rebound numbers all that much.

Chandler is an NBA champion, DPOY, Olympic gold medalist, and now an all star. At this point in their careers, Brook can't sniff his jockstrap.

LongIslandIcedZ
02-01-2013, 11:34 AM
If he clearly taps it back to another player on the Knicks it counts as Chandler's rebound. If he just taps it back and a Knick player has to run and go get it, it doesnt count as Chandler's rebound.

D-Block21-Chito
02-01-2013, 11:41 AM
I'd say I probably rather have Lopez than Chandler but Chandler is a great player to have on your team. I can't knock his defensive play, rebounding skills or hustle.