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LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:15 PM
1. Scoring: Westbrook is the most explosive player in the league. He can get to the basket and finish with contact. He has developed a solid mid range game along with a three. Shoots 33.3% from three, 80.3% from the line. Currently Westbrook is the second highest scoring point guard in the league at 22.6 points per game

2. Defense: Westbrook looks down apposing point guards with his stifling defense. Westbrook averages 2 steals per game which ranks top 5 in the NBA.

3. Passing ability: Many people are under the impression that Westbrook is a hog. He still dishes out 8.3 assist per game, which ranks top 5 in the NBA

4. Rebounding: Westbrook pulls down the most rebounds of any point guard at 5.3 per game.

5. Durability: Westbrook has not missed a basketball game, which dates back to high school

Westbrook is the most rounded point guard in the NBA that gives you the full package, and is the leader, of the new generation of point guards.

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/05/russell-westbrook-2012-nba-playoffs-thunder-vs-mavericks-highlights-video.jpg

nirvana235
01-26-2013, 06:18 PM
And OKC is a large market. What other myths do you have up your sleeve?

JNoel
01-26-2013, 06:19 PM
Troll.

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 06:21 PM
First off, Rondo pulls off more rebounds at 5.6 per game.
Second, Derrick Rose is much more explosive than Westbrook.
Third, how is a guy like Jrue Holiday averaging more assists with a pathetic team?

Giraffes Rule
01-26-2013, 06:22 PM
Reason why Russell Westbrook is not the best point guard in the NBA: He is not.

tredigs
01-26-2013, 06:23 PM
I feel like you're trolling and likely a dupe, but no, Chris Paul embodies everything that it means to be an elite point, including better D than Wessy. He's being caught up to quickly by the Irving's, Curry's and Jrue's of the world as well. And we'll see how D. Rose comes back. All that said, he's a stud. Just not the best. He racks disciprine.

Money_23
01-26-2013, 06:25 PM
22ppg on 42%FG, 52%TS, yeah, nice one. :laugh2:

Rondo has him beat with rebounds per game, and look at their size difference.

I take Parker over Westbrook any day.

JNoel
01-26-2013, 06:25 PM
I stopped reading after the OP mentioned 33% 3 point range. Chalmers must me MJ if that's the case.

Sly Guy
01-26-2013, 06:26 PM
1. Scoring: Westbrook is the most explosive player in the league. He can get to the basket and finish with contact. He has developed a solid mid range game along with a three. Shoots 33.3% from three, 80.3% from the line. Currently Westbrook is the second highest scoring point guard in the league at 22.6 points per game

2. Defense: Westbrook looks down apposing point guards with his stifling defense. Westbrook averages 2 steals per game which ranks top 5 in the NBA.

3. Passing ability: Many people are under the impression that Westbrook is a hog. He still dishes out 8.3 assist per game, which ranks top 5 in the NBA

4. Rebounding: Westbrook pulls down the most rebounds of any point guard at 5.3 per game.

5. Durability: Westbrook has not missed a basketball game, which dates back to high school

Westbrook is the most rounded point guard in the NBA that gives you the full package, and is the leader, of the new generation of point guards.

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/05/russell-westbrook-2012-nba-playoffs-thunder-vs-mavericks-highlights-video.jpg

1. on less than efficient shooting (#216 in EFG%)
2. defense is more than just steals per game. Steals are a bonus, but opposing fg% should be the measure, or Defensive efficiency. He may be good, I didn't check the stats, but quoting me Stl/gm isn't the best case to make
3. There a difference between effective passing and passing by necessity. Westbrook can get to the rim, and defenses collapse on him, so half of those assists may be an assist out of necessity rather than the construct of a creative play. Although the result is the same, having a high assist rate isn't the be all and end all of passing ability.
4. yeah, he's a good rebounder, but that's not the most important aspect of a good PG
5. durability's nice. But his game is based on athleticism, I worry about westbrook once his starts to wane and he must rely on his bball IQ instead.

He's a good player, but he is not, and is actually nowhere near the ideal mold for a PG IMO.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:27 PM
First off, Rondo pulls off more rebounds at 5.6 per game.
Second, Derrick Rose is much more explosive than Westbrook.
Third, how is a guy like Jrue Holiday averaging more assists with a pathetic team?

Rondo shouldn't be in the same sentence as Westbrook... rondo cannot score, its not all about ast, new generation of point guards boy...
Talk to me about Rose when he comes back from injury till then ThunderUp oceanboy
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=russell+westbrook+glasses&um=1&hl=en&client=opera&sa=X&tbo=d&rls=en&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&tbnid=99hwsj7VDSC1nM:&imgrefurl=http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2012/05/caption-the-photo-russell-westbooks-gone-fishing-shirt-and-urkel-red-glasses/russell-westbrook-shirt/&docid=zzpHPOcf_lWQTM&imgurl=http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/russell-westbrook-shirt.jpg&w=606&h=450&ei=ElgEUYbjAYKm8QT-0IC4CA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2&sig=112247362811881801763&page=1&tbnh=135&tbnw=215&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:87&tx=157&ty=57&biw=1152&bih=752

b@llhog24
01-26-2013, 06:27 PM
Reasons why he isn't: Chris Paul still plays basketball.

JeffG20
01-26-2013, 06:27 PM
this has to be a dupe

Money_23
01-26-2013, 06:28 PM
Rondo shouldn't be in the same sentence as Westbrook... rondo cannot score, its not all about ast, new generation of point guards boy...
Talk to me about Rose when he comes back from injury till then ThunderUp oceanboy
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=russell+westbrook+glasses&um=1&hl=en&client=opera&sa=X&tbo=d&rls=en&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&tbnid=99hwsj7VDSC1nM:&imgrefurl=http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2012/05/caption-the-photo-russell-westbooks-gone-fishing-shirt-and-urkel-red-glasses/russell-westbrook-shirt/&docid=zzpHPOcf_lWQTM&imgurl=http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/russell-westbrook-shirt.jpg&w=606&h=450&ei=ElgEUYbjAYKm8QT-0IC4CA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2&sig=112247362811881801763&page=1&tbnh=135&tbnw=215&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:87&tx=157&ty=57&biw=1152&bih=752

are you just strictly talking combo guards? In that case, Parker >> Westbrook.
If you aren't, then CP3 >>>>> Westbrook.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:29 PM
22ppg on 42%FG, 52%TS, yeah, nice one. :laugh2:

Rondo has him beat with rebounds per game, and look at their size difference.

I take Parker over Westbrook any day.

Parker over Westbrook that shows you don't watch basketball

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:29 PM
I stopped reading after the OP mentioned 33% 3 point range. Chalmers must me MJ if that's the case.

Chalmers averages 22 points also... come on son

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 06:30 PM
Rondo shouldn't be in the same sentence as Westbrook... rondo cannot score, its not all about ast, new generation of point guards boy...
Talk to me about Rose when he comes back from injury till then ThunderUp oceanboy
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=russell+westbrook+glasses&um=1&hl=en&client=opera&sa=X&tbo=d&rls=en&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&tbnid=99hwsj7VDSC1nM:&imgrefurl=http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2012/05/caption-the-photo-russell-westbooks-gone-fishing-shirt-and-urkel-red-glasses/russell-westbrook-shirt/&docid=zzpHPOcf_lWQTM&imgurl=http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/russell-westbrook-shirt.jpg&w=606&h=450&ei=ElgEUYbjAYKm8QT-0IC4CA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2&sig=112247362811881801763&page=1&tbnh=135&tbnw=215&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:87&tx=157&ty=57&biw=1152&bih=752

You said Westbrook averaged the most rebounds per game for a PG. Then you say Rondo can't score and that's why he averages more RPG? What?

Rose was way better than Westbrook when he wasn't injured. You're such a bad troll. At least make sense!

JNoel
01-26-2013, 06:32 PM
Parker over Westbrook that shows you don't watch basketball

Parker leads Westbrook in almost virtually every statistic. Try again.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:32 PM
1. on less than efficient shooting (#216 in EFG%)
2. defense is more than just steals per game. Steals are a bonus, but opposing fg% should be the measure, or Defensive efficiency. He may be good, I didn't check the stats, but quoting me Stl/gm isn't the best case to make
3. There a difference between effective passing and passing by necessity. Westbrook can get to the rim, and defenses collapse on him, so half of those assists may be an assist out of necessity rather than the construct of a creative play. Although the result is the same, having a high assist rate isn't the be all and end all of passing ability.
4. yeah, he's a good rebounder, but that's not the most important aspect of a good PG
5. durability's nice. But his game is based on athleticism, I worry about westbrook once his starts to wane and he must rely on his bball IQ instead.

He's a good player, but he is not, and is actually nowhere near the ideal mold for a PG IMO.

Whats the ideal mold of a pg care to elaborate, its a new generation kid... and Westbrook is the leader of the pack

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:33 PM
You said Westbrook averaged the most rebounds per game for a PG. Then you say Rondo can't score and that's why he averages more RPG? What?

Rose was way better than Westbrook when he wasn't injured. You're such a bad troll. At least make sense!

Rose was way beter than Westbrook at what, are you an idiot man...

Money_23
01-26-2013, 06:33 PM
Parker over Westbrook that shows you don't watch basketball

20-3-7.5 58%TS in 32.7 minutes a game
vs
23-5-8 52%TS in 36.3 minutes a game

who's doing better?

JNoel
01-26-2013, 06:34 PM
Chalmers averages 22 points also... come on son

Does not matter. That's a terrible stat to bring up to try to enhance your argument and leads me to believe that you are:

1) trolling everyone.
2) clueless.

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 06:34 PM
Whats the ideal mold of a pg care to elaborate, its a new generation kid... and Westbrook is the leader of the pack

You're so dumb! Westbrook's PG style is the reason why OKC will never win!

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:35 PM
20-3-7.5 58%TS in 32.7 minutes a game
vs
23-5-8 52%TS in 36.3 minutes a game

who's doing better?

Stat nerd... Anyone can tell you Westbrook is better then Parker... theres no argument here

JNoel
01-26-2013, 06:35 PM
You're so dumb! Westbrook's PG style is the reason why OKC will never win!

This

b@llhog24
01-26-2013, 06:35 PM
Parker and Westbrook are a wash.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:36 PM
You're so dumb! Westbrook's PG style is the reason why OKC will never win!

Westbrook is the perfect fit for OKC, and when OKC wins this year... Westbrook will be noticed worldwide as the best point guard, hes already in my mind

JNoel
01-26-2013, 06:37 PM
Parker and Westbrook are a wash.

Kill this imbecile b@llhog :laugh2:

b@llhog24
01-26-2013, 06:39 PM
Westbrook is the perfect fit for OKC, and when OKC wins this year... Westbrook will be noticed worldwide as the best point guard, hes already in my mind

Then you're delusional.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:39 PM
Your in denial Westbrook is the best point guard hands down

I Rock Shaqs
01-26-2013, 06:39 PM
Rondo shouldn't be in the same sentence as Westbrook... rondo cannot score, its not all about ast, new generation of point guards boy...
Talk to me about Rose when he comes back from injury till then ThunderUp oceanboy
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=russell+westbrook+glasses&um=1&hl=en&client=opera&sa=X&tbo=d&rls=en&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&tbnid=99hwsj7VDSC1nM:&imgrefurl=http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2012/05/caption-the-photo-russell-westbooks-gone-fishing-shirt-and-urkel-red-glasses/russell-westbrook-shirt/&docid=zzpHPOcf_lWQTM&imgurl=http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/russell-westbrook-shirt.jpg&w=606&h=450&ei=ElgEUYbjAYKm8QT-0IC4CA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2&sig=112247362811881801763&page=1&tbnh=135&tbnw=215&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:87&tx=157&ty=57&biw=1152&bih=752

I'll probably get another inbox msg telling me Im suspended or not to call people names but you sir, you are a moron.

b@llhog24
01-26-2013, 06:40 PM
Your in denial Westbrook is the best point guard hands down

You sure showed me.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:40 PM
Then you're delusional.

Says the guy who keeps posting lillard pictures...

ClearSoulForce
01-26-2013, 06:42 PM
Chris Paul is the best PG in the NBA hands down.

Tony Parker is just as good as Westbrook, are you serious? Parker has been better than Westbrook this year and is leading a team with no one in Durant's class to a top 2 seed.

Rondo is better than Westy. Who cares about what generation it is....

Troll.

Paul and Rondo are better than Westbrook. When healthy, Rose sure as hell is better. Parker, Irving, Curry and Holiday are all just as good as Westbrook.

urlachermess
01-26-2013, 06:42 PM
Westbrook's brick shooting is the best in the league

tredigs
01-26-2013, 06:43 PM
So glad to have an elite new poster like LogicReason join the already robustly insightful NBA forum. Your arguments/rebuttals are killer.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:44 PM
Chris Paul is the best PG in the NBA hands down.

Tony Parker is just as good as Westbrook, are you serious? Parker has been better than Westbrook this year and is leading a team with no one in Durant's class to a top 2 seed.

Rondo is better than Westy. Who cares about what generation it is....

Troll.

Paul and Rondo are better than Westbrook. When healthy, Rose sure as hell is better. Parker, Irving, Curry and Holiday are all just as good as Westbrook.

Westbrook better then Rose and Rondo... Chris Paul is the only guy who is arguable

b@llhog24
01-26-2013, 06:46 PM
Says the guy who keeps posting lillard pictures...

Wow. :facepalm:

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:46 PM
WESTBROOK !!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAUG4fuUOgk

IgglesFanInCO
01-26-2013, 06:55 PM
He should be #1 in assists with the team he has around him

Break it down into tiers to make it easier

Tier 1:CP3

Tier 2:Westy, Parker, Rondo, Rose when healthy

and everyone else is below that

if i had a gun to my head i would say westy is the lowest out of that tier 2 but they are all close (although who knows what to expect of rose he could jump up or down a tier when he gets back no one can predict that)

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 06:56 PM
He should be #1 in assists with the team he has around him

Break it down into tiers to make it easier

Tier 1:CP3

Tier 2:Westy, Parker, Rondo, Rose when healthy

and everyone else is below that

if i had a gun to my head i would say westy is the lowest out of that tier 2 but they are all close (although who knows what to expect of rose he could jump up or down a tier when he gets back no one can predict that)

Jrue Holiday should be in tier 2. He's underrated as hell. Same with Kyrie.

IgglesFanInCO
01-26-2013, 06:56 PM
Oh and OKC with parker would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OKC with westy

so thats another factor

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 06:58 PM
Oh and OKC with parker would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OKC with westy

so thats another factor

How can you make a statement like that man your crazy...

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:00 PM
Every list I literally go to has Westbrook first or second... Chris Paul the only guy you are argue for...

The real tier
1. Paul, Westbrook
2. Rose, Rondo, Parker, etc

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 07:01 PM
How can you make a statement like that man your crazy...

If you're trying to prove something, at least use proper english.

greg_ory_2005
01-26-2013, 07:03 PM
What an ironic username

bears88
01-26-2013, 07:03 PM
Westbrook is the perfect fit for OKC, and when OKC wins this year... Westbrook will be noticed worldwide as the best point guard, hes already in my mind

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

HouRealCoach
01-26-2013, 07:04 PM
Westbrook is a better player than many of the PG's but he isn't the best... He does have some great defense though

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:04 PM
Westbrook is top 3 point guard, In my mind he is the best, from here it is preference

Money_23
01-26-2013, 07:04 PM
westbrook is tier 2.

JNoel
01-26-2013, 07:06 PM
Lullz. Westbrook isn't even a PG.

bears88
01-26-2013, 07:06 PM
no he is not the best and never will be the best.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:08 PM
Lullz. Westbrook isn't even a PG.

What is he then... your looking real bad here noel, u have no logic

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:09 PM
no he is not the best and never will be the best.

Who is then... care to elaborate

bears88
01-26-2013, 07:09 PM
please somebody ban this fool.

LAKobeBryant
01-26-2013, 07:11 PM
stop making dumb threads

bears88
01-26-2013, 07:11 PM
I'm not going to be biased and say Derrick Rose ( which I think he is a top 4 PG in the NBA when heath) unlike you am not a huge homer, but for the sake of things I say Chris Paul is. End of discussion its not worth it going back and fourth with you.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:11 PM
please somebody ban this fool.

ignorance is bliss, I'm giving reasons and fact why Westbrook is the best...

IgglesFanInCO
01-26-2013, 07:11 PM
Jrue Holiday should be in tier 2. He's underrated as hell. Same with Kyrie.

Nah i wouldnt put them there quite yet, they arent quite on that "gamechanger" level, I would have them in tier 3 with curry

JNoel
01-26-2013, 07:13 PM
What is he then... your looking real bad here noel, u have no logic

How ironic :laugh2:

He's a SG who is too small to play his natural position, so he slides to PG. Why do you think he turns the ball over so much?

bears88
01-26-2013, 07:14 PM
ignorance is bliss, I'm giving reasons and fact why Westbrook is the best...

:laugh:its not worth it, am not going to get my self banned just for this.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU0CqWmraDM

JNoel
01-26-2013, 07:16 PM
Wow Dnewguy, is that you again?

bears88
01-26-2013, 07:17 PM
so what your going to shove all your points and stats on how Westbrook is the best PG in the NBA down our throat ??

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:19 PM
so what your going to shove all your points and stats on how Westbrook is the best PG in the NBA down our throat.

http://files.sharenator.com/U_Mad_Bro_RE_Do_you_have_to_have_the_last_word_Son isphere_UK_2011-s469x428-137106-535.jpg

KingPosey
01-26-2013, 07:21 PM
First off, Rondo pulls off more rebounds at 5.6 per game.
Second, Derrick Rose is much more explosive than Westbrook.
Third, how is a guy like Jrue Holiday averaging more assists with a pathetic team?

Rose is not much more explosive. You could maybe say he is a little more explosive, but that would just be a maybe.

KingPosey
01-26-2013, 07:23 PM
Westbrook better then Rose and Rondo... Chris Paul is the only guy who is arguable

I started out agreeing and agreeing with you, the. You just completely derailed.

LAKobeBryant
01-26-2013, 07:25 PM
Rose is not much more explosive. You could maybe say he is a little more explosive, but that would just be a maybe.

explosive doesn't mean dunking the basketball hard

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:25 PM
I started out agreeing and agreeing with you, the. You just completely derailed.
We don't know how Rose is going to be off injury I think its safe to say Westbrook is better then Rose for now...

Kashmir13579
01-26-2013, 07:26 PM
These reasons aren't even reasons.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:27 PM
Russell Westbrook Is Silencing Critics Slowly I'm serious, I truly believe he is the best point guard...
Name one thing he cannot do!!!!!

JNoel
01-26-2013, 07:29 PM
Russell Westbrook Is Silencing Critics Slowly I'm serious, I truly believe he is the best point guard...
Name one thing he cannot do!!!!!

Forget what can't he do, what can he do?

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:32 PM
Forget what can't he do, what can he do?

You clearly do not watch basketball, you should really stop commenting, get off this forum, and find something else to do, your opinion isn't valid because you have no clue what you are talking about.

JNoel
01-26-2013, 07:34 PM
You clearly do not watch basketball, you should really stop commenting, get off this forum, and find something else to do, your opinion is valid because you have no clue what you are talking about.

Thanks I thought you would see it my way.

1-800-STFU
01-26-2013, 07:42 PM
Demarcus Cousins is immature and a cancer

Baller1
01-26-2013, 07:44 PM
Westbrook is the second best PG in the NBA. Not first though.

b@llhog24
01-26-2013, 07:47 PM
Jrue Holiday should be in tier 2. He's underrated as hell. Same with Kyrie.

Kyrie should move up, Jrue's not that good though.


Every list I literally go to has Westbrook first or second... Chris Paul the only guy you are argue for...

The real tier
1. Paul, Westbrook
2. Rose, Rondo, Parker, etc

I agree with the tiers, however Paul has a sizeable gap on the next best PG, so it's closer to

Paul


Westbrook/Kyrie/Parker

The rest.


How ironic :laugh2:

He's a SG who is too small to play his natural position, so he slides to PG. Why do you think he turns the ball over so much?

Which high USG star doesn't turn the ball over? It's a VERY small list.

Jemikz9Clutch
01-26-2013, 07:51 PM
Westbrook is the perfect fit for OKC, and when OKC wins this year... Westbrook will be noticed worldwide as the best point guard, hes already in my mind

You had my curiosity. But now you have my attention.

by that logic, winning a championship last year made chalmers known as the best point guard in the world. i like this dude. lol.

Kashmir13579
01-26-2013, 07:52 PM
Demarcus Cousins is immature and a cancer

/thread

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 07:53 PM
Russell Westbrook Is Silencing Critics Slowly I'm serious, I truly believe he is the best point guard...
Name one thing he cannot do!!!!!

Get out of Durant's way. I also would like to hear how he is better than Chris Paul

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 07:59 PM
You had my curiosity. But now you have my attention.

by that logic, winning a championship last year made chalmers known as the best point guard in the world. i like this dude. lol.

Dont take it out of context... Westbrook is elite that fact you bring up chalmers disappoints me. What I was getting at is that Westbrook gets under looked because on Durant. Fans of the Thunder can tell you how important Westbrook is to OKC

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:03 PM
My reasons why I think Westbrook might be better than Paul: better scorer, and defender... Paul might be a better leader though and can distribute the basketball at a high level

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 08:03 PM
Dont take it out of context... Westbrook is elite that fact you bring up chalmers disappoints me. What I was getting at is that Westbrook gets under looked because on Durant. Fans of the Thunder can tell you how important Westbrook is to OKC

So do you agree that Westbrook should take the same amount of shots as Durant?

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:04 PM
With that begin said, give Westbrook his own team to lead and he would average 30 points easily...

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:07 PM
So do you agree that Westbrook should take the same amount of shots as Durant?

Yes why shouldn't he, Durant is possibly a better scorer then Kobe, but he still needs a brake. Thats where Russ comes in to carry the load. OKC is one of the highest scoring teams because of Westbrook and his ability to push the basketball in transition.

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:08 PM
With that begin said, give Westbrook his own team to lead and he would average 30 points easily...

Let's not say easily, but he probably could. If he was putting up those numbers he would be playing more like a shooting guard anyway. No way he would be a great facilitator and put up 30 a night

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 08:09 PM
Yes why shouldn't he, Durant is possibly a better scorer then Kobe, but he still needs a brake. Thats where Russ comes in to carry the load. OKC is one of the highest scoring teams because of Westbrook and his ability to push the basketball in transition.

You must be kidding me. Look at his FG%... A PG that fits that team is Rondo, CP3, or Jrue Holiday. For a team that needs a scorer and star player, he'll fit in Chicago, Cleveland, Wizards, etc.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:10 PM
Let's not say easily, but he probably could. If he was putting up those numbers he would be playing more like a shooting guard anyway. No way he would be a great facilitator and put up 30 a night

Westbrook can easily avg 28+ points plus and 8+ ast given his own team... If Kobe can drop 30+ points and dish out 5ast in the process, your telling me Westbrook can't dish out 8+ assist. He would have the ball in his hands 70% of the time ???

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 08:12 PM
Westbrook can easily avg 28+ points plus and 8+ ast given his own team... If Kobe can drop 30+ points and dish out 5ast in the process, your telling me Westbrook can't dish out 8+ assist. He would have the ball in his hands 70% of the time ???

So you're telling me Westbrook is better than Kobe? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:12 PM
You must be kidding me. Look at his FG%... A PG that fits that team is Rondo, CP3, or Jrue Holiday. For a team that needs a scorer and star player, he'll fit in Chicago, Cleveland, Wizards, etc.

FIELD GOAL IS IRRELEVANT for scoring !!!! Look at what Iverson used to do, on the sixers... He was no better then Westbrook at shooting... come on son

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:12 PM
My reasons why I think Westbrook might be better than Paul: better scorer, and defender... Paul might be a better leader though and can distribute the basketball at a high level

He scores less efficiently so you can't call him a better scorer, or I guess you can, but who cares because it is done less efficiently. I really don't think either one is clearly better on defense.

Bottomline, Westbrook is very good, but he hurts his team at times and Paul does not. If you switched the two I believe the Thunder would be better and the Clippers would be worse

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:14 PM
Westbrook can easily avg 28+ points plus and 8+ ast given his own team... If Kobe can drop 30+ points and dish out 5ast in the process, your telling me Westbrook can't dish out 8+ assist. He would have the ball in his hands 70% of the time ???

He would do it on his own team, but his efficiency would be atrocious. Kobe would be putting up 35 and 5 if he was the only good player on his team too, but who cares, they wouldn't be winning

Jemikz9Clutch
01-26-2013, 08:14 PM
Dont take it out of context... Westbrook is elite that fact you bring up chalmers disappoints me. What I was getting at is that Westbrook gets under looked because on Durant. Fans of the Thunder can tell you how important Westbrook is to OKC

ok dude. i'm just messing with you, using your reasoning from that statement. you entertain me, you know? lol anyway, continue.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:14 PM
I see Westbrook as a better scorer then Iverson... Westbrook can put on Iverson numbers given his own team... THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY HE IS THE BEST POINT GUARD

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:15 PM
Also Kobe is better than Westbrook

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 08:15 PM
I see Westbrook as a better scorer then Iverson... Westbrook can put on Iverson numbers given his own team... THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY HE IS THE BEST POINT GUARD

I tried to reason but it seems it's impossible after this statement.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:15 PM
He scores less efficiently so you can't call him a better scorer, or I guess you can, but who cares because it is done less efficiently. I really don't think either one is clearly better on defense.

Bottomline, Westbrook is very good, but he hurts his team at times and Paul does not. If you switched the two I believe the Thunder would be better and the Clippers would be worse

LOBCITY would be worse???? Westbrook style fits that run and gun offence, what are you taking about man...

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:17 PM
I see Westbrook as a better scorer then Iverson... Westbrook can put on Iverson numbers given his own team... THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY HE IS THE BEST POINT GUARD

Iverson was inefficient. I understand it was because he needed to carry his team that way, but there is a reason they didn't win a championship.

Also, Westbrook is not as good of a scorer as Iverson. How many times did Iverson lead the league in scoring and how many times did Westbrook lead the league... or his own team?

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:18 PM
LOBCITY would be worse???? Westbrook style fits that run and gun offence, what are you taking about man...

He would bring down efficiency, you have yet to respond to that point. Again, starting to think you're trolling

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:18 PM
Iverson was inefficient. I understand it was because he needed to carry his team that way, but there is a reason they didn't win a championship.

Also, Westbrook is not as good of a scorer as Iverson. How many times did Iverson lead the league in scoring and how many times did Westbrook lead the league... or his own team?

They never won a ring because iverson cast was suspect... OKC on the hand has a great supporting cast...

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:20 PM
We seen Chris Paul on his own team!!! this is his peak... For Westbrook skies is the limit... We could be witnessing the Best Point Guard of all time... There's never been a guy like Westbrook before... Put him on a team like Raptors he would easily average 30 points... Iverson was seen as the best back in 20th century... someone explain why Westbrook isn't the best point guard...

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:22 PM
He would bring down efficiency, you have yet to respond to that point. Again, starting to think you're trolling

Trolling ? I'm dead serious... you have no reason why Westbrook isn't the best your just a hater...

Jemikz9Clutch
01-26-2013, 08:25 PM
if i may dude, i watched a lot of videos in youtube from bballbreakdown. they have a lot of videos there on OKC particularly on westbrook. you can watch there, too, to know why westbrook isn't the best point guard based on the coach.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:27 PM
if i may dude, i watched a lot of videos in youtube from bballbreakdown. they have a lot of videos there on OKC particularly on westbrook. you can watch there, too, to know why westbrook isn't the best point guard based on the coach.

I studied the game of basketball a video cannot tell me anything I would not know... "Gotta give credit where it is due" and Westbrook is the cream of the crop Best I have seen do it in a long time at the PG

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 08:27 PM
Trolling ? I'm dead serious... you have no reason why Westbrook isn't the best your just a hater...

1) Iverson averaged more APG.
2) Iverson averaged more SPG.
3) Iverson averaged more PPG.
4) Iverson had a crappy team.
5) Iverson shot his team to the finals. Westbrook shot his team out of the finals.

You can't be serious.

OKC doesn't need Westbrook to chuck up as many shots as Durant. Ibaka is improving on the offensive end and can use some touches. Kevin Martin is probably the best scorer in any teams bench. Westbrook also has anger management issues and needs help.

JNoel
01-26-2013, 08:27 PM
Can't believe you're not banned yet :laugh2:

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:28 PM
Trolling ? I'm dead serious... you have no reason why Westbrook isn't the best your just a hater...

yep, trolling.

Putting up 30 at an inefficient rate if he was on his own team is your argument. He actually hurts his team. It'd be better if he shot less, turned the ball over less, and distributed more.

Also, Eric Snow played point for the sixers. There was a lot of swapping defenses assignments between Snow, McKie and Iverson. I don't know why I'm trying to talk sense to you though

97NYer
01-26-2013, 08:29 PM
Rondo > Westbrook if you want to win

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:30 PM
yep, trolling.

Putting up 30 at an inefficient rate if he was on his own team is your argument. He actually hurts his team. It'd be better if he shot less, turned the ball over less, and distributed more.

Also, Eric Snow played point for the sixers. There was a lot of swapping defenses assignments between Snow, McKie and Iverson. I don't know why I'm trying to talk sense to you though

inefficient rate lol good one... Take away Iverson... and no one would know names like eric snow, or mckie... come on son

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:32 PM
inefficient rate lol good one... Take away Iverson... and no one would know names like eric snow, or mckie... come on son

I'm aware although I would because I grew up watching the Sixers. That is why Iverson>Westbrook. Iverson was never second best on his team and has a good reputation for performance in big games

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:32 PM
Westbrook on OKC is a beast... take a look at what Harden did ( same exact player ) went to a different team and exploded... Put Westbrook on another team... skies the limit... don't under look Westbrook talents because he plays on OKC he is literally the glue and a huge reason why KD developed into the player he is today

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:33 PM
I'm aware although I would because I grew up watching the Sixers. That is why Iverson>Westbrook. Iverson was never second best on his team and has a good reputation for performance in big games

Iverson never played with talent... Westbrook plays with one of the best in the NBA in KD

Jemikz9Clutch
01-26-2013, 08:33 PM
I studied the game of basketball a video cannot tell me anything I would not know... "Gotta give credit where it is due" and Westbrook is the cream of the crop Best I have seen do it in a long time at the PG

i will give him credit for his athleticism, which i dont have, and especially his durability, considering his style of playing the game.

Bostondiehard
01-26-2013, 08:34 PM
If I'm starting a team right now, with age considered for the next 10 years, it goes DRose, Irving, Westbrook, Holliday. Period end of discussion. Anyone who says Rondo is an elite pointguard is delusional. Plays matador defense, inconsistent scoring to the maximum, and poor free throws. Also is not explosive getting to the basket at all. Seems like he slides through defenses doesn't actually slash and has pathetic touch at the basket it makes me want to tear my hair out. Half his assists come on dishes out to KG and Pierce for their comfortable shots. Assists are the most overrated stat in basketball and his triple doubles are meaningless when he goes ghost in the 4th quarter and overtime. His rebounding is solid I guess.

Westbrook is dynamic, plays lockdown defense, is a cold blooded shooter from mid range and 3, and is incredibly explosive going to the basket. He also gets his fair share of assists at 8.3 PG. Almost automatic at the line, you hold your breath with Rondo everytime. Stop attacking Logic, Russell Westbrook is a top 3 pointguard and the majority of you guys from what I've read are all probably Rondo lovers who don't get to watch him night in and night out like I do. Westbrook's dunks are also amazing... which broadens the aspect of Rondo's scoring game and his explosiveness... When is the last time you seen the guy throw one down? My last point is a microcosm of why Westbrook is a better player and pointguard than Rondo and is top 3. Don't yell at me because I said Rondo doesn't dunk and that makes him suck.

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 08:34 PM
Westbrook on OKC is a beast... take a look at what Harden did ( same exact player ) went to a different team and exploded... Put Westbrook on another team... skies the limit... don't under look Westbrook talents because he plays on OKC he is literally the glue and a huge reason why KD developed into the player he is today

You're basing off potential. You know, the same potential Kwame Brown had. I'm sorry but Harden is a much better player than Westbrook.

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:34 PM
Westbrook on OKC is a beast... take a look at what Harden did ( same exact player ) went to a different team and exploded... Put Westbrook on another team... skies the limit... don't under look Westbrook talents because he plays on OKC he is literally the glue and a huge reason why KD developed into the player he is today

He will go and selfishly try to get his in a few years and he will put up like 25-30 with 7-9 assists and have an awful shooting percentage and those numbers will drop when age starts catching up to his fast-paced high-flying game

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:35 PM
i will give him credit for his athleticism, which i dont have, and especially his durability, considering his style of playing the game.

His motor is crazy, very tough kid, and he only gets better from here... real special talent

JNoel
01-26-2013, 08:36 PM
Westbrook on OKC is a beast... take a look at what Harden did ( same exact player ) went to a different team and exploded... Put Westbrook on another team... skies the limit... don't under look Westbrook talents because he plays on OKC he is literally the glue and a huge reason why KD developed into the player he is today

He would play worse on another team. Do you not consider the double teams Durant gets that plays into Westbrook's game? Teams can easily double team him and he would take a dive imo.

Giraffes Rule
01-26-2013, 08:36 PM
This thread:
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1kqqgXIP01qdlh1io1_400.gif

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:36 PM
He will go and selfishly try to get his in a few years and he will put up like 25-30 with 7-9 assists and have an awful shooting percentage and those numbers will drop when age starts catching up to his fast-paced high-flying game

Regardless he is well on his way to a Hall Of fame career, championships, only 24 but still has playoff experience, goal medal, allstars, etc...

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:38 PM
He would play worse on another team. Do you not consider the double teams Durant gets that plays into Westbrook's game? Teams can easily double team him and he would take a dive imo.

Play worse, looooool were talking SUPERSTARS, same thing they said about Harden... how will be play with double teams, all this nonsense... Westbrook is a legit 28+ guy anywhere he goes

kobemelo
01-26-2013, 08:40 PM
His motor is crazy, very tough kid, and he only gets better from here... real special talent

how much better can he really get? If anything Westy needs to slow down to get "better" like JNoel said playing with KD makes Westy look better than he really is. To answer OP D Rose > Westbrook cuz he does everything that he can do but better not to mention he's a leader.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:41 PM
If I'm starting a team right now, with age considered for the next 10 years, it goes DRose, Irving, Westbrook, Holliday. Period end of discussion. Anyone who says Rondo is an elite pointguard is delusional. Plays matador defense, inconsistent scoring to the maximum, and poor free throws. Also is not explosive getting to the basket at all. Seems like he slides through defenses doesn't actually slash and has pathetic touch at the basket it makes me want to tear my hair out. Half his assists come on dishes out to KG and Pierce for their comfortable shots. Assists are the most overrated stat in basketball and his triple doubles are meaningless when he goes ghost in the 4th quarter and overtime. His rebounding is solid I guess.

Westbrook is dynamic, plays lockdown defense, is a cold blooded shooter from mid range and 3, and is incredibly explosive going to the basket. He also gets his fair share of assists at 8.3 PG. Almost automatic at the line, you hold your breath with Rondo everytime. Stop attacking Logic, Russell Westbrook is a top 3 pointguard and the majority of you guys from what I've read are all probably Rondo lovers who don't get to watch him night in and night out like I do. Westbrook's dunks are also amazing... which broadens the aspect of Rondo's scoring game and his explosiveness... When is the last time you seen the guy throw one down? My last point is a microcosm of why Westbrook is a better player and pointguard than Rondo and is top 3. Don't yell at me because I said Rondo doesn't dunk and that makes him suck.

This guy knows what he is talking about, keep it 100 !!!

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:43 PM
You're basing off potential. You know, the same potential Kwame Brown had. I'm sorry but Harden is a much better player than Westbrook.

Potential ahahha ? 23 points,8ast,5rbs,2stls hes hooping right now... Kwame brown was never a allstar, log off this site, and never come back here again

JNoel
01-26-2013, 08:44 PM
Play worse, looooool were talking SUPERSTARS, same thing they said about Harden... how will be play with double teams, all this nonsense... Westbrook is a legit 28+ guy anywhere he goes

Harden can create his own shot. Not saying that Westbrook can't but he does need his space when shooting which would be very limited somewhere else. Also Westbrook demands more attention being a PG, Harden is able to just catch and shoot unlike Westbrook.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:46 PM
Harden can create his own shot. Not saying that Westbrook can't but he does need his space when shooting which would be very limited somewhere else. Also Westbrook demands more attention being a PG, Harden is able to just catch and shoot unlike Westbrook.

No comment, you have clearly never watched OKC

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 08:47 PM
Potential ahahha ? 23 points,8ast,5rbs,2stls hes hooping right now... Kwame brown was never a allstar, log off this site, and never come back here again

You're basing off potential and people thought Kwame Brown was going to be the best center during that time. You can't just say a player is going to average those stats if they were in that position because it can be good or bad for them.

23 points, 8 APG, 5 RPG, 2 SPG.

1) He's scoring 23 PPG because he's inefficient and relies on attempts to lift his PPG up.
2) 8 APG because Durant/Kevin Martin/Ibaka.
3) 5 RPG and 2 SPG are pretty much average PG stats in today's league.

He's top 5 but not even close to Chris Paul or Rondo. You're so dumb I don't even want to bother. Russell Westbrook is also one of the worst shooters in NBA right now.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:49 PM
you're basing off potential and people thought kwame brown was going to be the best center during that time. You can't just say a player is going to average those stats if they were in that position because it can be good or bad for them.

23 points, 8 apg, 5 rpg, 2 spg.

1) he's scoring 23 ppg because he's inefficient and relies on attempts to lift his ppg up.
2) 8 apg because durant/kevin martin/ibaka.
3) 5 rpg and 2 spg are pretty much average pg stats in today's league.

He's top 5 but not even close to chris paul or rondo. You're so dumb i don't even want to bother. Russell westbrook is also one of the worst shooters in nba right now.

lol someone ban this troll

Sssmush
01-26-2013, 08:49 PM
I feel like you're trolling and likely a dupe, but no, Chris Paul embodies everything that it means to be an elite point, including better D than Wessy. He's being caught up to quickly by the Irving's, Curry's and Jrue's of the world as well. And we'll see how D. Rose comes back. All that said, he's a stud. Just not the best. He racks disciprine.

I have to agree with the OP that Westbrook is clearly better than CP3. Westbrook brings more to the table, and is a more effective scorer.

Those two, Westbrook and CP3, are the only ones really in the conversation about the best "next generation" point guard. DRose obviously isn't in the conversation at least this year, not only because of the durability factor but also because he is more of a shooting guard in some ways. It's between Westy and CP3, and Westbrook wins. They are both awesome players, but overall Westy has a bit more. Rondo we can leave out of the conversation as well, because his game is so oddly one-dimensional and I'm tempted to say old school (??) that we could hardly compare him to these two next gen hybrid guys, Westbrook and CP3. Rondo IS a fantastic player, and there is probably a case to be made that having a Rondo plus a Kobe or Eric Gordon is better than having a Westbrook or a CP3 (or a DRose if he was not rehabbing an injury this year).

kobemelo
01-26-2013, 08:50 PM
If I'm starting a team right now, with age considered for the next 10 years, it goes DRose, Irving, Westbrook, Holliday. Period end of discussion. Anyone who says Rondo is an elite pointguard is delusional. Plays matador defense, inconsistent scoring to the maximum, and poor free throws. Also is not explosive getting to the basket at all. Seems like he slides through defenses doesn't actually slash and has pathetic touch at the basket it makes me want to tear my hair out. Half his assists come on dishes out to KG and Pierce for their comfortable shots. Assists are the most overrated stat in basketball and his triple doubles are meaningless when he goes ghost in the 4th quarter and overtime. His rebounding is solid I guess.

Westbrook is dynamic, plays lockdown defense, is a cold blooded shooter from mid range and 3, and is incredibly explosive going to the basket. He also gets his fair share of assists at 8.3 PG. Almost automatic at the line, you hold your breath with Rondo everytime. Stop attacking Logic, Russell Westbrook is a top 3 pointguard and the majority of you guys from what I've read are all probably Rondo lovers who don't get to watch him night in and night out like I do. Westbrook's dunks are also amazing... which broadens the aspect of Rondo's scoring game and his explosiveness... When is the last time you seen the guy throw one down? My last point is a microcosm of why Westbrook is a better player and pointguard than Rondo and is top 3. Don't yell at me because I said Rondo doesn't dunk and that makes him suck.


Sarcasm or? If not, how are assists meaningless?

Sssmush
01-26-2013, 08:51 PM
As a side note, it would be super cool if Kobe internalized Nash's game and reinvented himself as a premiere playmaker in the last 4 or 5 years of his career.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:52 PM
I have to agree with the OP that Westbrook is clearly better than CP3. Westbrook brings more to the table, and is a more effective scorer.

Those two, Westbrook and CP3, are the only ones really in the conversation about the best "next generation" point guard. DRose obviously isn't in the conversation at least this year, not only because of the durability factor but also because he is more of a shooting guard in some ways. It's between Westy and CP3, and Westbrook wins. They are both awesome players, but overall Westy has a bit more. Rondo we can leave out of the conversation as well, because his game is so oddly one-dimensional and I'm tempted to say old school (??) that we could hardly compare him to these two next gen hybrid guys, Westbrook and CP3. Rondo IS a fantastic player, and there is probably a case to be made that having a Rondo plus a Kobe or Eric Gordon is better than having a Westbrook or a CP3 (or a DRose if he was not rehabbing an injury this year).

Great post Sssmush just summarized everything... Real recognize real

JNoel
01-26-2013, 08:52 PM
No comment, you have clearly never watched OKC

What does OKC have to do with anything? All I said was Westbrook would have trouble creating shots on his own team considering he is a PG. You downplay my argument because I've proved my point?

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:54 PM
Funny how Kobe fans say Westbrook is a hog...

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 08:54 PM
I have to agree with the OP that Westbrook is clearly better than CP3. Westbrook brings more to the table, and is a more effective scorer.

Those two, Westbrook and CP3, are the only ones really in the conversation about the best "next generation" point guard. DRose obviously isn't in the conversation at least this year, not only because of the durability factor but also because he is more of a shooting guard in some ways. It's between Westy and CP3, and Westbrook wins. They are both awesome players, but overall Westy has a bit more. Rondo we can leave out of the conversation as well, because his game is so oddly one-dimensional and I'm tempted to say old school (??) that we could hardly compare him to these two next gen hybrid guys, Westbrook and CP3. Rondo IS a fantastic player, and there is probably a case to be made that having a Rondo plus a Kobe or Eric Gordon is better than having a Westbrook or a CP3 (or a DRose if he was not rehabbing an injury this year).

How is Rondo one dimensional? He's averaging a higher amount of APG, RPG, the same SPG, and is much more efficient. If he's one dimensional, so is Westbrook.

Do you even know what one dimensional is? Ray Allen is one dimensional because he's great at shooting.

--23--
01-26-2013, 08:54 PM
This thread:
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1kqqgXIP01qdlh1io1_400.gif

:laugh2:

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 08:54 PM
I have to agree with the OP that Westbrook is clearly better than CP3. Westbrook brings more to the table, and is a more effective scorer.

Those two, Westbrook and CP3, are the only ones really in the conversation about the best "next generation" point guard. DRose obviously isn't in the conversation at least this year, not only because of the durability factor but also because he is more of a shooting guard in some ways. It's between Westy and CP3, and Westbrook wins. They are both awesome players, but overall Westy has a bit more. Rondo we can leave out of the conversation as well, because his game is so oddly one-dimensional and I'm tempted to say old school (??) that we could hardly compare him to these two next gen hybrid guys, Westbrook and CP3. Rondo IS a fantastic player, and there is probably a case to be made that having a Rondo plus a Kobe or Eric Gordon is better than having a Westbrook or a CP3 (or a DRose if he was not rehabbing an injury this year).

Explain to me how Westbrook is a more efficient scorer?

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:55 PM
For all you trolls, Westbrook is the best scoring point guard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orks2RIt5mg

b@llhog24
01-26-2013, 08:57 PM
Rondo > Westbrook if you want to win

Funny how the Thunder have a better record than the Celtics.

b@llhog24
01-26-2013, 08:57 PM
I have to agree with the OP that Westbrook is clearly better than CP3. Westbrook brings more to the table, and is a more effective scorer.

Those two, Westbrook and CP3, are the only ones really in the conversation about the best "next generation" point guard. DRose obviously isn't in the conversation at least this year, not only because of the durability factor but also because he is more of a shooting guard in some ways. It's between Westy and CP3, and Westbrook wins. They are both awesome players, but overall Westy has a bit more. Rondo we can leave out of the conversation as well, because his game is so oddly one-dimensional and I'm tempted to say old school (??) that we could hardly compare him to these two next gen hybrid guys, Westbrook and CP3. Rondo IS a fantastic player, and there is probably a case to be made that having a Rondo plus a Kobe or Eric Gordon is better than having a Westbrook or a CP3 (or a DRose if he was not rehabbing an injury this year).

:laugh:

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 08:57 PM
How is Rondo one dimensional? He's averaging a higher amount of APG, RPG, the same SPG, and is much more efficient. If he's one dimensional, so is Westbrook.

Do you even know what one dimensional is? Ray Allen is one dimensional because he's great at shooting.

Westbrook averages 23 points, rondo is 11.... Westbrook better defense... all rondo can do is distribute the basketball... Westbrook literally does everything better then Rondo other then distribute...

JNoel
01-26-2013, 08:58 PM
You keep throwing out that he's the best PG/best scoring PG but you haven't shown us any evidence/stats to compare him to other PGs except for "he's the best cause I said so." Until then you are simply a troll.

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 08:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndyfsS0bFK8&feature=player_detailpage

What's your point? Also, don't forget that Westbrook cost them the game by fouling!

Also, Rondo is averaging 14 PPG. His job isn't to score, it's to play make. When has Westbrook ever created a shot for his teammates?

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:00 PM
You keep saying he's the best PG/best scoring PG but you haven't shown us any evidence/stats to compare him to other PGs except for "he's the best cause I said so." Until then you are simply a troll.

Read the original post you troll... Best scoring pg, best rebounder, defender, all paul and rondo have on him is distributing the basketball...

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 09:01 PM
Westbrook averages 23 points, rondo is 11.... Westbrook better defense... all rondo can do is distribute the basketball... Westbrook literally does everything better then Rondo other then distribute...

Which is the first role of any point guard, especially one playing with OKC's talent

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndyfsS0bFK8&feature=player_detailpage

What's your point? Also, don't forget that Westbrook cost them the game by fouling!

Also, Rondo is averaging 14 PPG. His job isn't to score, it's to play make. When has Westbrook ever created a shot for his teammates?

Log off your account call it a night, Rondo averages 11 points lmaoooooooooooooo

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 09:02 PM
Read the original post you troll... Best scoring pg, best rebounder, defender, all paul and rondo have on him is distributing the basketball...

Also, Rondo has a better defensive rating than Westbrook. He also averages more RPG. What are you talking about!

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 09:03 PM
Read the original post you troll... Best scoring pg, best rebounder, defender, all paul and rondo have on him is distributing the basketball...

Least efficient, defense isn't as clear as you claim, who cares if a pg rebounds at a slightly higher rate, and distributing should be the first and main function of a point guard

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 09:03 PM
Log off your account call it a night, Rondo averages 11 points lmaoooooooooooooo

11 PPG for career. 14 PPG this season. Instead of logging off your account, just throw your computer away.

Bostondiehard
01-26-2013, 09:04 PM
Sarcasm or? If not, how are assists meaningless?

Dude please read you make yourself sound foolish I said his triple doubles are meaningless. Obviously assists are important just not vital as a statistic compared to scoring, on ball defense, and free throw %.

JNoel
01-26-2013, 09:05 PM
Read the original post you troll... Best scoring pg, best rebounder, defender, all paul and rondo have on him is distributing the basketball...

Me a troll? :laugh2:

You said that Tony Parker is better than Westbrook. You quickly ran to your corner once everyone shot you down. Since then, you have said nothing to strengthen your argument against other individual players. Troll on.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:05 PM
Least efficient, defense isn't as clear as you claim, who cares if a pg rebounds at a slightly higher rate, and distributing should be the first and main function of a point guard

I`m about to kill your whole argument... a Point guard Job is to win games... What does OKC do ?... best record I thought so.. bye log off your account

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:06 PM
Me a troll? :laugh2:

You said that Tony Parker is better than Westbrook. You quickly ran to your corner once everyone shot you down. Since then, you have said nothing to strengthen your argument against other individual players. Troll on.

When did I ever say Tony parker better then Westbrook???? ahahah read the title REASONS WHY WESTBROOK IS THE BEST POINT GUARD...

Bishnoff
01-26-2013, 09:07 PM
No.

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 09:08 PM
I`m about to kill your whole argument... a Point guard Job is to win games... What does OKC do ?... best record I though so.. bye log off your account

So when Westbrook shoots OKC out of the playoffs and doesn't get Durant all the touches he deserves what will you say? Also you are clearly a troll, so I am leaving this thread. I have disproven the other thread you started as well. Have fun trolling til your ban :cheers:

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 09:08 PM
I`m about to kill your whole argument... a Point guard Job is to win games... What does OKC do ?... best record I though so.. bye log off your account

Last year SAS and Bulls had a better record than OKC. By your standards, Parker and Rose were better.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:09 PM
So when Westbrook shoots OKC out of the playoffs and doesn't get Durant all the touches he deserves what will you say? Also you are clearly a troll, so I am leaving this thread. I have disproven the other thread you started as well. Have fun trolling til your ban :cheers:

Dont cry because I made you look stupid. Westbrook is one of the biggest reason why OKC even made the finals...

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:09 PM
1. Scoring: Westbrook is the most explosive player in the league. He can get to the basket and finish with contact. He has developed a solid mid range game along with a three. Shoots 33.3% from three, 80.3% from the line. Currently Westbrook is the second highest scoring point guard in the league at 22.6 points per game

2. Defense: Westbrook looks down apposing point guards with his stifling defense. Westbrook averages 2 steals per game which ranks top 5 in the NBA.

3. Passing ability: Many people are under the impression that Westbrook is a hog. He still dishes out 8.3 assist per game, which ranks top 5 in the NBA

4. Rebounding: Westbrook pulls down the most rebounds of any point guard at 5.3 per game.

5. Durability: Westbrook has not missed a basketball game, which dates back to high school

Westbrook is the most rounded point guard in the NBA that gives you the full package, and is the leader, of the new generation of point guards.

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/05/russell-westbrook-2012-nba-playoffs-thunder-vs-mavericks-highlights-video.jpg

First of all lol at another OKC thread. Secondly, CP3 is not only better than Westbrook in almost every dimension of the game, but CP3 is expected to go down as a top 3 PG of all time. Not Westbrook. I'd put so many people ahead of Westbrick. Jrue Holiday, Steph Curry, Rondo, CP3, healthy D Rose, Kyrie Irving, etc. Westbrook has a worse shooting percentage that all of the above and last time I checked had taken more shot attempts that KD.

But of course that's not important because OKC is a large market. Also KD is buff as hell and Sefalosha's offensive game is among the best in the league.

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:10 PM
I rather have Chris Paul than westbrook in any given time and day. Period

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 09:10 PM
First of all lol at another OKC thread. Secondly, CP3 is not only better than Westbrook in almost every dimension of the game, but CP3 is expected to go down as a top 3 PG of all time. Not Westbrook. I'd put so many people ahead of Westbrick. Jrue Holiday, Steph Curry, Rondo, CP3, healthy D Rose, Kyrie Irving, etc. Westbrook has a worse shooting percentage that all of the above and last time I checked had taken more shot attempts that KD.

But of course that's not important because OKC is a large market. Also KD is buff as hell and Sefalosha's offensive game is among the best in the league.

CP3 three of the best PG's? Hell no!

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:10 PM
Last year SAS and Bulls had a better record than OKC. By your standards, Parker and Rose were better.

Once again out of context... A point guard is supposed to win games...

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:11 PM
and Comparing Westbrook to Iverson is the stupidest comparsion I have ever heard.

JNoel
01-26-2013, 09:11 PM
When did I ever say Tony parker better then Westbrook???? ahahah read the title REASONS WHY WESTBROOK IS THE BEST POINT GUARD...

You know what I meant. If Parker has almost virtually all better stats than Westbrook and Parker is the 4th best PG, you can't say that Westbrook is better than Paul, Rondo, etc. Stats don't lie.

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 09:11 PM
Once again out of context... A point guard is supposed to win games...

How is it out of context? You stated that it's about winning games and Rose/Parker's team won more games than Westbrook's team. It's official. You're just a loser of a troll who wants to bump his thread up and loves the attention. Insecure child!

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:12 PM
not winning games is based on team effort and not based on a single player.

JNoel
01-26-2013, 09:13 PM
Dont cry because I made you look stupid. Westbrook is one of the biggest reason why OKC even made the finals...

I'm done.

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:14 PM
CP3 three of the best PG's? Hell no!

I've heard it countless times from TV analysts and articles on internet blogs and whatnot explaining advanced stats etc. that I don't feel like getting into, but yeah, basically some people think he could go down as even the goat.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:14 PM
and Comparing Westbrook to Iverson is the stupidest comparsion I have ever heard.

Explain? you never watched Iverson if you do not see the similarities in there game. Westbrook just more athletic and stronger version of the answer

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:15 PM
I've heard it countless times from TV analysts and articles on internet blogs and whatnot explaining advanced stats etc. that I don't feel like getting into, but yeah, basically some people think he could go down as even the goat.

Your a brainwashed lmaoooo. the goat? ahahah thats a good one man

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 09:16 PM
I've heard it countless times from TV analysts and articles on internet blogs and whatnot explaining advanced stats etc. that I don't feel like getting into, but yeah, basically some people think he could go down as even the goat.

Magic
Stockton
Isiah
Kidd
Nash

He's not close to yet. He can pass Nash and Kidd though.

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:17 PM
Iverson is still a better player than Westbrook no matter how you putt it. Besides Iverson has better handles and corssovers than westbrook am not a stats guro I will admitt that, but I watched Iverson play I rather have Iverson on my team than westbrook. enough said.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:17 PM
Magic
Stockton
Isiah
Kidd
Nash

He's not close to yet. He can pass Nash and Kidd though.

Iverson better the Paul lets not get it twisted, no way Paul is the goat... thadubs is a troll

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:18 PM
I verson is still a better player than Westbrook no matter how you putt it. Besides Iverson has better handles and corssovers than westbrook am not a stats guro, but I watched Iverson play I rather have Iverson on my team than westbrook.

Hes a better player? never played with talent put him on a team with a guy like KD and he would never touch 30 points, for that matter become Iverson... Westbrook is better hands down

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:20 PM
yea I would like to see westbrook averging 26.7 ppg. Yea I doubt westbrook is going to have that kind of numbers by the end of his career.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:20 PM
Westbrook is a hybrid, leader of the new generation... We all know Paul is a hall of famer, elite pg... Westbrook is the better overall player.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:22 PM
yea I would like to see westbrook averging 26.7 ppg. Yea I doubt westbrook is going to have that kind of numbers by the end of his career.

You just proved my point smartguy... Put Westbrook in iverson situation playing with scrubs like snow, Westbrook would easily average 30 points per game...

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:23 PM
Your a brainwashed lmaoooo. the goat? ahahah thats a good one man

He's more efficient than Westbrook, he can rebound almost as well, he's a better passer, and his defense is miles and miles above Westbrooks.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1456792-chris-paul-is-the-nbas-best-point-guard-and-its-not-even-close

If you care to read it go ahead. Just a little article by BR I didn't feel like digging.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:24 PM
yea I would like to see westbrook averging 26.7 ppg. Yea I doubt westbrook is going to have that kind of numbers by the end of his career.

In 2001 Iverson average 31... next highest scorer on his team was 12 points smart guy... OKC Durant putting up 30, martin 16, ibaka 14... And Russ still averages 23... log off have a nice day

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:24 PM
Iverson better the Paul lets not get it twisted, no way Paul is the goat... thadubs is a troll

How can you call me a troll? I've never made a thread plus I'm only a troll to Lakers fans. You're just an idiot.

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 09:25 PM
Hes a better player? never played with talent put him on a team with a guy like KD and he would never touch 30 points, for that matter become Iverson... Westbrook is better hands down

Iverson put up 24 shots per game and scored 33 PPG. Westbrook is putting up 18 shots per game and scoring 22 PPG. With 6 shots equating 12 points via 2 pointers, add 12 to Westbrook's 22. That would be 34. That's assuming he makes 100% of those 6 shots. Under Westbrook's FG%, those 6 shots would only average 5 points. He'll score 27 PPG taking 24 shots.

So no, he's not a better player than Iverson.

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:25 PM
If Westbrook can average 30+points in 5 seasons like Iverson did in his career than thats a differnet argument, but even if you take KD out I doubt that he would put up those numbers.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:26 PM
He's more efficient than Westbrook, he can rebound almost as well, he's a better passer, and his defense is miles and miles above Westbrooks.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1456792-chris-paul-is-the-nbas-best-point-guard-and-its-not-even-close

If you care to read it go ahead. Just a little article by BR I didn't feel like digging.

Your source is Bleacher Report... come on, I taught u were smart...

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:26 PM
Iverson put up 24 shots per game and scored 33 PPG. Westbrook is putting up 18 shots per game and scoring 22 PPG. With 6 shots equating 12 points via 2 pointers, add 12 to Westbrook's 22. That would be 34. That's assuming he makes 100% of those 6 shots. Under Westbrook's FG%, those 6 shots would only average 5 points. He'll score 27 PPG taking 24 shots.

So no, he's not a better player than Iverson.

LOL lets pretend you never commented

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 09:28 PM
LOL lets pretend you never commented

Your English is horrific. 95% of the people commenting on this thread think you're ******** and a troll. The only thing being pretended is the fact that you're trying to seriously prove why Westbrook is the best PG.

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:29 PM
Your source is Bleacher Report... come on, I taught u were smart...

I stated that I didn't feel like digging because your stupid OKC ball hugging *** isn't worth the time... plus there is nothing wrong with Bleacher Report. At least not in this article, everything they said was true. Chris Paul is more efficient, he can practically score at will, he can rebound inhumanly for his small frame, and his defense is perhaps the best from a 6'0'' guard that the NBA has ever seen.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:30 PM
Your English is horrific. 95% of the people commenting on this thread think you're ******** and a troll. The only thing being pretended is the fact that you're trying to seriously prove why Westbrook is the best PG.

Go do your homework, you do not know basketball, take a look at your name... oceanspray lol

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:31 PM
LOL lets pretend you never commented

You're only saying that because he just proved your *** wrong...

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:32 PM
I stated that I didn't feel like digging because your stupid OKC ball hugging *** isn't worth the time... plus there is nothing wrong with Bleacher Report. At least not in this article, everything they said was true. Chris Paul is more efficient, he can practically score at will, he can rebound inhumanly for his small frame, and his defense is perhaps the best from a 6'0'' guard that the NBA has ever seen.

Lol it does not matter if he is 6 foot... Westbrook defense, scoring, rebound are all better... all cp3 has on him is distribution of the basketball... any who watches basketball can tell you this

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:34 PM
You're only saying that because he just proved your *** wrong...

I said that because what he said was stupid, I did not want to respond... go cry man you do not know basketball

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:34 PM
let me ask the OP a couple of qustions if you take KD out, Can westbrook keep his team in contentions[? Can he give his team the best record in the NBA and #1 seed? and last but not least, Can Westbrook win an mvp? I know these are stupid qustions, but am curious to see how the op can answer these. I like Westbrook's game, but I doubt he can do all of that.

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:36 PM
Lol it does not matter if he is 6 foot... Westbrook defense, scoring, rebound are all better... all cp3 has on him is distribution of the basketball... any who watches basketball can tell you this

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody in NBA history has acquired as many stealing titles and CP3, do your ****ing homework you trolling ****. Westbrook never went 23, 5, 11, and 3 steal per game in his career while shooting over 50%. You're so stupid.

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:39 PM
Excuse me, 23, 6, 11, and 3.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:39 PM
let me ask the OP a couple of qustions if you take KD out, Can westbrook keep his team in contentions[? Can he give his team the best record in the NBA and #1 seed? and last but not least, Can Westbrook win an mvp? I know these are stupid qustions, but am curious to see how the op can answer these. I like Westbrook's game, but I doubt he can do all of that.

If Rose got MVP I see no reason why Westbrook cant?... When did Chris Paul ever give his team the best record or number 1 seat... All I`m saying is Westbrook talents are under looked... give him is own team they can stay in contentions( I would not go as far as winning a championship... that all depends on where he goes and his supporting cast)

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:41 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody in NBA history has acquired as many stealing titles and CP3, do your ****ing homework you trolling ****. Westbrook never went 23, 5, 11, and 3 steal per game in his career while shooting over 50%. You're so stupid.

Westbrook never had the keys to an offense like CP3 did... thanks for those stats DUBs did Paul also get a ring in that process?.... It funny to call someone a goat without a ring, wouldn't you agree...

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:41 PM
If Rose got MVP I see no reason why Westbrook cant?... When did Chris Paul ever give his team the best record or number 1 seat... All I`m saying is Westbrook talents are under looked... give him is own team they can stay in contentions( I would not go as far as winning a championship... that all depends on where he goes and his supporting cast)

Because CP3 was always surrounded by **** talent. Now that he's surrounded by almost as much talent as OKC, his team's got the 2nd best record.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:43 PM
Because CP3 was always surrounded by **** talent. Now that he's surrounded by almost as much talent as OKC, his team's got the 2nd best record.

If you considered david west, Blake griffin talent then you my friend are a lost child.... Those guys shouldnt be mention in the same sentence as Westbrooks counter part in KD

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:44 PM
Because CP3 was always surrounded by **** talent. Now that he's surrounded by almost as much talent as OKC, his team's got the 2nd best record.

Who made the finals last year... clipper ? go cry dubs U do not watch basketball

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:44 PM
Rose didnt have alot to work with and still got the Bulls back to back seasons with the best record granted we had an elite defense ( which helped alot) but still he carried his team on his back, and as far as work ethic goes I dont think Westbrook has a good work ethic as much as Derrick Rose.

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:45 PM
Westbrook never had the keys to an offense like CP3 did... thanks for those stats DUBs did Paul also get a ring in that process?.... It funny to call someone a goat without a ring, wouldn't you agree...

I didn't say he is the goat, I said he could go down as the goat. And are you kidding me? Chris Paul was never surrounded by talent. Westbrook is playing with the best player in WC.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:46 PM
Rose didnt have alot to work with and still got the Bulls back to back seasons with the best record granted we had an eleit defense ( which helped alot) but still he carried his team on his back. And as far as work ethic goes I dont think Westbrook has a good work ethic as much as Derrick Rose.

Carried what team... Bulls are going no where in the east as long as Lebron is on the Heat... OKC would sweep bulls... Westbrook and Rose is not a argument... ill give you guys Chris Paul... that is the only real argument here Westbrook or Paul

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:47 PM
I didn't say he is the goat, I said he could go down as the goat. And are you kidding me? Chris Paul was never surrounded by talent. Westbrook is playing with the best player in WC.

David west is not talent, hes nothing but a role player... you do not know basketball... do your homework...you stat nerd

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:48 PM
If you considered david west, Blake griffin talent then you my friend are a lost child.... Those guys shouldnt be mention in the same sentence as Westbrooks counter part in KD

How can you not consider David West or Blake Griffin talented? They've worked their whole lives to get to their positions and have become multiallstars. That's totally disrespectful to 2 guys who've made it 20,000 times further than you ever will.

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:48 PM
Westbrook and Rose are not an argument are you seriou??, I really like it when your making Rose like he is some scrub compared to Westbrook. You do realize that westbrook and Rose 's games are simliar right ? and we have played the Miami Heat good recently, and their is as much of a chance winning against okc.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:49 PM
How can you not consider David West or Blake Griffin talented? They've worked their whole lives to get to their positions and have become multiallstars. That's totally disrespectful to 2 guys who've made it 20,000 times further than you ever will.

Well you just proved your lack of knowledge, log off man... call it a night seriously

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:50 PM
Westbrook and Rose are not an argument are you serious, I really like it when your making Rose like he is some scrub compared to Westbrook. You do realize that westbrook and Rose 's games are simliar right ?

Rose is nice, but hes no longer on Westbrook tier... mabye in his MVP season... not anymore... Westbrook is elite playing on a next level...

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:52 PM
And how do you know that ?? Is is becasue of that ACL injury that Rose sufferd in that playoff games vs the sixers.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:52 PM
If you guys did not realize CP3 is aging hes reach his peaked, hes getting hurt now... Westbrook ready to take the best point guard status away from cp3... When okc wins this year... everything im saying will come true with Westbrook.

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:53 PM
David west is not talent, hes nothing but a role player... you do not know basketball... do your homework...you stat nerd

He's a two time all star. He is also a starter and is therefore not a role-player. Haha and it's not that I'm a nerd it's just that you're ****ing stupid.

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 09:54 PM
Well you just proved your lack of knowledge, log off man... call it a night seriously

Where? Tell me where?

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:54 PM
And how do you know that ?? Is is becasue of that ACL injury that Rose sufferd in that playoff games vs the sixers.

Yes... Westbrook is playing at a high level working on his game while Rose is rehabbing... Westbrook has took him over for now

rockbottom2010
01-26-2013, 09:54 PM
hes is definitely not the best point guard after paul, rondo, and possibly rose (if healthy) and sooner rather than later...curry, lillard, and irving will be ahead of them

bears88
01-26-2013, 09:57 PM
Look what Adrian Peterson did ( even thought its in a different sport's league) when he returned from his ACL injury he was amazing during the season. Now there is no reason what so ever that Rose can return to his old self especially when the Bulls are being cautious with him and lets not forget how hard Rose has been working and rehabbing.

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:58 PM
hes is definitely not the best point guard after paul, rondo, and possibly rose (if healthy) and sooner rather than later...curry, lillard, and irving will be ahead of them


Coming from a guy with a heat picture, I would except nothing else... do your homework

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 09:59 PM
Look what Adrian Peterson did ( even thought its in a different sport's league) when he returned from his ACL injury he was amazing during the season. Now there is no reason what so ever that Rose can return to his old self especially when the Bulls are being cautious with him and lets not forget how hard Rose has been working and rehabbing.

I know all about Peterson, great story, football is a different game though I believe its harder to come off acl in basketball. Football AP comes in for his carries, football has way more brakes... Basketball is a fast pace game with virtually no brakes... Rose would not be at the same level for a while

PrettyBoyJ
01-26-2013, 10:01 PM
Westbrook is inefficient, and a turnover machine.. Those are not best pg material

bears88
01-26-2013, 10:02 PM
Again and again and again just becasue Rose had an acl injury doesnt mean that he will not return to his old self.

JNoel
01-26-2013, 10:03 PM
hes is definitely not the best point guard after paul, rondo, and possibly rose (if healthy) and sooner rather than later...curry, lillard, and irving will be ahead of them

Agreed.

kdspurman
01-26-2013, 10:04 PM
I can't believe this is already at 15 pages...... I think everyone agrees Westbrook is a top 5 PG in the league. but not the best

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 10:08 PM
Again and again and again just becasue Rose had an acl injury doesnt mean that he will not return to his old self.

Even if he returns to his old self Westbrook will still be better regardless...

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 10:08 PM
Magic
Stockton
Isiah
Kidd
Nash

He's not close to yet. He can pass Nash and Kidd though.

Don't feed the troll, but seriously, you think Westbrook can pass Jason Kidd?

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 10:08 PM
Westbrook the best brought up many examples and reason why he is... your guys are crazy for not seeing this

LogicReason
01-26-2013, 10:09 PM
Don't feed the troll, but seriously, you think Westbrook can pass Jason Kidd?

Pass him in what? hes better then all these guys

seikou8
01-26-2013, 10:09 PM
timeto bash westbrook cause one troll psd gotta love it

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 10:14 PM
Don't feed the troll, but seriously, you think Westbrook can pass Jason Kidd?

He was talking to me about CP3.

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 10:16 PM
He was talking to me about CP3.

That makes a lot more sense. Sorry, I got tired of reading every post because of the trolling

LAcowBOMBER
01-26-2013, 10:18 PM
timeto bash westbrook cause one troll psd gotta love it

I don't think many people are bashing him. People just seem to think that calling him the best is ridiculous. I don't think anyone has him out of the top 5 and most seem to have him around 2 or 3, but a clear 2 or 3

blastmasta26
01-26-2013, 11:10 PM
Westbrook the best brought up many examples and reason why he is... your guys are crazy for not seeing this

One reason he isn't: Chris Paul.

ThaDubs
01-26-2013, 11:14 PM
One reason he isn't: Chris Paul.

No dude. He's not even good. I mean who cares if he holds the record for most steal titles and is about to get another one. And 22 pts 6 rbs 11 ast and 3 stl isn't even slightly impressive. Westbrook is the sole reason they made the playoffs. His FG% is probably top in the league. He's also not a ball hog. OKC is big market. And KD is buff and ****.

OceanSpray
01-26-2013, 11:26 PM
No dude. He's not even good. I mean who cares if he holds the record for most steal titles and is about to get another one. And 22 pts 6 rbs 11 ast and 3 stl isn't even slightly impressive. Westbrook is the sole reason they made the playoffs. His FG% is probably top in the league. He's also not a ball hog. OKC is big market. And KD is buff and ****.

Westbrook is also a very good three point shooter and if it wasn't for Durant hogging the ball in late game situations, OKC would be undefeated.

greg_ory_2005
01-26-2013, 11:31 PM
Sean Mayne

b@llhog24
01-27-2013, 01:21 AM
CP3 three of the best PG's? Hell no!

In terms of public opinion? I doubt he passes Magic or Oscar. Everyone else is/should be his *****.

OceanSpray
01-27-2013, 01:34 AM
In terms of public opinion? I doubt he passes Magic or Oscar. Everyone else is/should be his *****.

Oscar is overrated. That generation of basketball was garbage talent. The average height was 6'6 for a center and there was only 8 teams.

b@llhog24
01-27-2013, 01:48 AM
Oscar is overrated. That generation of basketball was garbage talent. The average height was 6'6 for a center and there was only 8 teams.

Well that's always nice to know.

rockbottom2010
01-27-2013, 01:55 AM
westbrook is more of sg than a pg....hes very similar to monta ellis...however hes more explosive

Sssmush
01-27-2013, 04:58 AM
For all you trolls, Westbrook is the best scoring point guard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orks2RIt5mg

Awesome video.

I still remember that play at the end of game 2 I think, Miami up one point (?) when Lebron fouled Durant, then Westbrook came soaring in and snatched the ball for an aerial dunk, then Lebron blatantly ripped Westbrooks arms and knocked the ball loose, then the refs called a touch foul to give Lebron free throws a second later.

That was clearly such a ripoff call, and as far as I'm concerned just on that play alone Lebron's only championship has an asterisk next to it. And I am somewhat of a Lebron fan too but I will say that.

Sssmush
01-27-2013, 05:01 AM
BLATANT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9bXSEzNc_s

Sssmush
01-27-2013, 05:06 AM
Explain to me how Westbrook is a more efficient scorer?

I said he's a more effective scorer.

C'mon, let's not be crazy here. Night in and night out, Westbrook is way more of a scorer than CP3. CP3 has an edge in court generalship or whatever, but nothing near the advantage Westbrook has in scoring.

For ****'s sake. If these two teams meet in the playoffs, they'll probably have to try to guard Westbrook with Blake Griffin or something, or Westbrook is going to be dropping 40 points on them like effortlessly.

And Rondo... c'mon. He's scoring like 10 points a game or something, how is he even in the conversation? He's trying to be like the purest pure point guard in the history of pure point guards. He literally like lays the ball in like Abner Doubleday or something, or throws a cross court bounce pass to the corner 3 rather than shoot a wide open 11 footer.

Sssmush
01-27-2013, 05:08 AM
Like Rondo's nickname should be "Retro": Rajon "Retro" Rondo.

AND you want to argue that he is the best "next generation hybrid point guard," over CP3 and Westbrook. C'mon.

ThaDubs
01-27-2013, 05:24 AM
I said he's a more effective scorer.

C'mon, let's not be crazy here. Night in and night out, Westbrook is way more of a scorer than CP3. CP3 has an edge in court generalship or whatever, but nothing near the advantage Westbrook has in scoring.

For ****'s sake. If these two teams meet in the playoffs, they'll probably have to try to guard Westbrook with Blake Griffin or something, or Westbrook is going to be dropping 40 points on them like effortlessly.

And Rondo... c'mon. He's scoring like 10 points a game or something, how is he even in the conversation? He's trying to be like the purest pure point guard in the history of pure point guards. He literally like lays the ball in like Abner Doubleday or something, or throws a cross court bounce pass to the corner 3 rather than shoot a wide open 11 footer.

If CP3 wanted to he could score much higher number than Westbrook with higher efficiency. CP3 is the best point guard in the league and it's not even CLOSE. The Clippers, with their star talent and incredible depth are still not **** without CP3. CP3 is the reason they win. OKC would be absolutely fine if Westbrook was injured. KD would just drop 60 easily. Stats and intangibles-wise, CP3 has the edge over every point guard. He's like GP Rondo and Kyrie Irving had a baby and gave it steroids. I literally laughed when you said they'll have to put BG on Westbrook, because not only would that be a mismatch in Westbrook's favor, but CP3 would shut his *** out. CP3 is one of the best defensive point guards this league has ever seen. To call Westbrook an efficient scorer is just hilarious. He shoots the ball more than KD, and is predictable as hell. And about Rondo, he know he lacks a jumpshot, so he does what he does best, pass the ball to the open man. Isn't it obvious lol?

Sssmush
01-27-2013, 05:25 AM
So when Westbrook shoots OKC out of the playoffs and doesn't get Durant all the touches he deserves what will you say? Also you are clearly a troll, so I am leaving this thread. I have disproven the other thread you started as well.

CP3 never been to the Finals, never did much in the playoffs period, and he's been around more seasons.

This is CP3's eigth season, and he's only played in 34 playoff games so far; Westbrook is in his fifth season and has played 43 playoff games already. If I'm not mistaken, Westbrook probably got more playoff wins last season than CP3 has total

Sssmush
01-27-2013, 05:29 AM
If CP3 wanted to he could score much higher number than Westbrook with higher efficiency. CP3 is the best point guard in the league and it's not even CLOSE. The Clippers, with their star talent and incredible depth are still not **** without CP3. CP3 is the reason they win. OKC would be absolutely fine if Westbrook was injured. KD would just drop 60 easily. Stats and intangibles-wise, CP3 has the edge over every point guard. He's like GP Rondo and Kyrie Irving had a baby and gave it steroids. I literally laughed when you said they'll have to put BG on Westbrook, because not only would that be a mismatch in Westbrook's favor, but CP3 would shut his *** out. CP3 is one of the best defensive point guards this league has ever seen. To call Westbrook an efficient scorer is just hilarious. He shoots the ball more than KD, and is predictable as hell. And about Rondo, he know he lacks a jumpshot, so he does what he does best, pass the ball to the open man. Isn't it obvious lol?

Well I guess CP3 has the stats and the reputation and all the accolades, but we'll just have to see the matchup in the playoffs and see what everybody says then.

Wait... I think I can hear it already... "they had Durant." "They had Durant." "they had Durant."

But I would SERIOUSLY like to see CP3 guard Westbrook. I really doubt they'll do that though, they will make some kind of defensive "adjustment" -- like I said, probably Blake guarding him in transition

Sssmush
01-27-2013, 05:30 AM
Just to be clear though, CP3 is an awesome player. But that just elevates Westbrook's status that much higher.

Westbrook is probably the most underrated player in the league.

GoferKing_
01-27-2013, 05:59 AM
Put Rondo in OKC and he'll avg 20 ast. Westy is dumb as hell and pads stats, does not involve other players, does not make other players better.

tredigs
01-27-2013, 06:06 AM
Well I guess CP3 has the stats and the reputation and all the accolades, but we'll just have to see the matchup in the playoffs and see what everybody says then.

Wait... I think I can hear it already... "they had Durant." "They had Durant." "they had Durant."

But I would SERIOUSLY like to see CP3 guard Westbrook. I really doubt they'll do that though, they will make some kind of defensive "adjustment" -- like I said, probably Blake guarding him in transition
Head to Head between those two does not look favorably on Westbrook. That is for sure.

Sssmush
01-27-2013, 06:37 AM
Head to Head between those two does not look favorably on Westbrook. That is for sure.

Guess we'll see. People always want to diss Westbrook, but we'll just have to see won't we. Imo Westbrook has a few extra rungs on the ladder, and will absolutely torch CP3 in transition. To say nothing of the fact that Westy can disrupt a lot of things on defense that CP3 likes to do, and if Westy is hot from outside he may just drop 50 on CP3.

tredigs
01-27-2013, 06:39 AM
Guess we'll see. People always want to diss Westbrook, but we'll just have to see won't we. Imo Westbrook has a few extra rungs on the ladder, and will absolutely torch CP3 in transition. To say nothing of the fact that Westy can disrupt a lot of things on defense that CP3 likes to do, and if Westy is hot from outside he may just drop 50 on CP3.

They're not rookies, I was not speaking hypothetically. Cp3 torches Westbrook regularly. It's not a "diss", I love Westbrook, he's just not on the man's level.

YoungOne
01-27-2013, 06:40 AM
cp3...

amos1er
01-27-2013, 06:56 AM
Hahahahaha FG% 41.

ztilzer31
01-27-2013, 07:34 AM
1. Scoring: Westbrook is the most explosive player in the league. He can get to the basket and finish with contact. He has developed a solid mid range game along with a three. Shoots 33.3% from three, 80.3% from the line. Currently Westbrook is the second highest scoring point guard in the league at 22.6 points per game

2. Defense: Westbrook looks down apposing point guards with his stifling defense. Westbrook averages 2 steals per game which ranks top 5 in the NBA.

3. Passing ability: Many people are under the impression that Westbrook is a hog. He still dishes out 8.3 assist per game, which ranks top 5 in the NBA

4. Rebounding: Westbrook pulls down the most rebounds of any point guard at 5.3 per game.

5. Durability: Westbrook has not missed a basketball game, which dates back to high school

Westbrook is the most rounded point guard in the NBA that gives you the full package, and is the leader, of the new generation of point guards.

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/05/russell-westbrook-2012-nba-playoffs-thunder-vs-mavericks-highlights-video.jpg

This is cute :). Except that 8.6 assists is pretty average to below average when you have the best scorer int he NBA on your team, and rebounding is a pretty weak stat to be putting a lot of thought into when talking PG's. Also SPG does not tell you how good or bad a player is defensively.

Lastly Russell Westbrook is sloppy which is very bad for a PG. It's not that Westbrook isn't a good player his skills don't make what makes a good point guard. He also takes to many shots. He's a point guard that shoots a lot, doesn't get enough assists, and gives up too many turnovers.

You should look up what the word "efficiency" before you say dumb stuff :).

GoferKing_
01-27-2013, 07:44 AM
If I am a NBA coach and I play against OKC what do I do? I leave Westbrick to shot 60 shots, get 80 pts, but cover the rest, I know that that would work just fine for me. ;]

AIRMAR72
01-27-2013, 11:07 AM
1. Scoring: Westbrook is the most explosive player in the league. He can get to the basket and finish with contact. He has developed a solid mid range game along with a three. Shoots 33.3% from three, 80.3% from the line. Currently Westbrook is the second highest scoring point guard in the league at 22.6 points per game

2. Defense: Westbrook looks down apposing point guards with his stifling defense. Westbrook averages 2 steals per game which ranks top 5 in the NBA.

3. Passing ability: Many people are under the impression that Westbrook is a hog. He still dishes out 8.3 assist per game, which ranks top 5 in the NBA

4. Rebounding: Westbrook pulls down the most rebounds of any point guard at 5.3 per game.

5. Durability: Westbrook has not missed a basketball game, which dates back to high school

Westbrook is the most rounded point guard in the NBA that gives you the full package, and is the leader, of the new generation of point guards.

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/05/russell-westbrook-2012-nba-playoffs-thunder-vs-mavericks-highlights-video.jpg

dude you OVER doing IT Im a russel westbrook fan and russel is nowwhere near to be best point PG in THE GAME and im SURE he wont BE mention as alltime GREAT his IQ is average I like his midrange game but he misses too many shots this yr N lastyr he is surrounded by guys WHO can score he jumps higher than most PG and thrust off to the basket at WILL but russell is NOT the best PG in game the man is SG and getting pressure from his coaching staff and the media reason why the is passing the rock