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Dade County
01-20-2013, 11:25 PM
The 8th seed in the western conference over the past 5yrs has average out record wise 48 wins or better...

The Lakers would have to go 31 - 11 to have a chance to make the playoffs...


Realistically do you think they can?



I think they will, but what do you posters think?

ThaDubs
01-20-2013, 11:29 PM
Lol. No.

canefandynasty
01-20-2013, 11:30 PM
As long as Phil Jackson isn't there, the Lakers aren't going ANYWHERE. Kobe can't play facilitator. He NEEDS the triangle.

ATX
01-20-2013, 11:30 PM
No

They also have the ninth strongest strength of schedule from here out.

seikou8
01-20-2013, 11:32 PM
They wont make it sad

ATX
01-20-2013, 11:33 PM
Winning 31 of the next 42 is a 74% winning percentage. Not happening.

justinnum1
01-20-2013, 11:36 PM
It's incredible that they might miss the playoffs.

JNoel
01-20-2013, 11:41 PM
They need to trade Pau immediately. After that, D'Antoni must incorporate a more fluid offense to where it is not solely based on just individual production but rather the team. Kobe must stop taking so many shots, he must get Dwight more involved or else he is useless in Pringles system. The half hearted shot-to-pass from Kobe and Nash to Dwight aren't going to work, I don't know why they keep running it. They call me future GM for a reason.

MarkieMark48
01-20-2013, 11:43 PM
If they dont, will the "heat bought a championship" talks stop?

Probably not

soundjunkies2
01-20-2013, 11:45 PM
The 8th place team is currently on pace to win 43 games which is more manageable. They are also only 3 games behind Houston and Portland so they'll not dead in the water yet. Still, I don't like the Lakers chances at all.

Raidaz4Life
01-20-2013, 11:47 PM
The Lakers are done, they sat on their hands too long. Even if they make a trade at this point it will take too long to get the new pieces incorporated.

Hardaway Here
01-20-2013, 11:55 PM
I really don't see it happening. West is too deep. They have to win while the teams above them lose. If all the teams in west continue going at the pace they are on no way.

Dade County
01-21-2013, 01:34 AM
The 8th place team is currently on pace to win 43 games which is more manageable. They are also only 3 games behind Houston and Portland so they'll not dead in the water yet. Still, I don't like the Lakers chances at all.

43games would be a more realistic number for them to reach.

Im_in_Mia_bish
01-21-2013, 01:37 AM
no.

thephoenixson28
01-21-2013, 01:51 AM
Hope not. Cuz Phoenix gets there pick

Hawkeye15
01-21-2013, 01:55 AM
The 8th seed currently is projected to finish 41-41, the west is weaker now, so the OP's projections are irrelevant. With some fringe playoff teams like the Wolves being injury ravaged, the Mavs just getting old, etc, I can see the west finally sending a team to the playoffs that finishes .500. The Lakers are 3 games out. Of course they can still make it.

That being said, they are gone quick. They are killing Kobe with minutes, I don't trust their defense or bench, and if they make it, it will have worn that roster out.

Nighthawk
01-21-2013, 02:04 AM
The 8th seed currently is projected to finish 41-41, the west is weaker now, so the OP's projections are irrelevant. With some fringe playoff teams like the Wolves being injury ravaged, the Mavs just getting old, etc, I can see the west finally sending a team to the playoffs that finishes .500. The Lakers are 3 games out. Of course they can still make it.

That being said, they are gone quick. They are killing Kobe with minutes, I don't trust their defense or bench, and if they make it, it will have worn that roster out.

Not to mention if they do make it, it will likely be the 7th or 8th seed and the Thunder, Clippers or Spurs will steam roll this team in the 1st round

Chronz
01-21-2013, 02:05 AM
They have an uphill battle but it wont take 46 wins

YouCan'tBeatLA
01-21-2013, 02:05 AM
Seriously, where did you get those numbers from? We are only 3 ****ing games(or something like that) behind the 8th seed.

Guppyfighter
01-21-2013, 02:10 AM
Seriously, where did you get those numbers from? We are only 3 ****ing games(or something like that) behind the 8th seed.

Three back behind three teams is larger than five back behind one team. It will be very difficult to catch the eight seed for the Lakers.

Duncan = Donkey
01-21-2013, 02:15 AM
i still think they will make the playoffs, hoping like crazy they dont though as we need that Laker pick.

rockbottom2010
01-21-2013, 03:26 AM
howard wants to be the man of the house.....as long as kobe is there....he won't be the one....thats why shaq and chuck already predicted that he won't be a laker after this season......

DDynO
01-21-2013, 03:27 AM
Its not happening.

Lakers + Giants
01-21-2013, 03:35 AM
Even if they do they might get swept, no point. This is a a completely lost season, no success, no lottery pick . . . ****!

shep33
01-21-2013, 03:40 AM
Like others have said, it won't take 46 wins. But I don't like our chances.

naps
01-21-2013, 04:07 AM
Stop with those historical numbers. They don't matter here at all. They are only 3 games behind the 8th seed, so it's absolutely possible for them to make it. While I do think they are a group of unhappy players (except Kobe since it's primarily because of his selfishness), it's too talented of a group at least not to turn it around this much.

AIRMAR72
01-21-2013, 09:48 AM
and got swept lastyr its over

He115ing
01-21-2013, 09:57 AM
I tend to think that they will make the playoffs. I mean it is hard to believe that they will not make it with Howard, Kobe, and Nash. There are still lots of games to be played. However, Dantoni is absolutely horrible, so even if they do make the playoffs they are not getting past the first round.

envymamba24
01-21-2013, 10:21 AM
If they dont, will the "heat bought a championship" talks stop?

Probably not

They honestly should, you gotta go out and play the games. Who knows what LA will do with a full year of chemistry but I don't think we'll get the chance to know personally. I think, if this type of production continues, we'll see the team flipped. It starts with coaching and as
Much as he's not historically a "great" coach; at least spoelstra let his team play their games and mesh together in a system that favors the majority of them.

DanG
01-21-2013, 10:26 AM
Stop with those historical numbers. They don't matter here at all. They are only 3 games behind the 8th seed, so it's absolutely possible for them to make it. While I do think they are a group of unhappy players (except Kobe since it's primarily because of his selfishness), it's too talented of a group at least not to turn it around this much.


http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c58.0.843.403/p843x403/385175_10151190014726006_541139369_n.jpg

ATX
01-21-2013, 10:29 AM
Next up for LA, @ Chicago and @ Memphis...We'll see I guess if they can get it rolling, or keep digging the hole deeper.

DanG
01-21-2013, 10:31 AM
Next up for LA, @ Chicago and @ Memphis...We'll see I guess if they can get it rolling, or keep digging the hole deeper.
and you can add
vs Utah
vs OKC

DAMN

Losoway
01-21-2013, 10:43 AM
if you think the lakers have a shot at making the playoffs . delete your account now

ATX
01-21-2013, 10:45 AM
and you can add
vs Utah
vs OKC

DAMN

Ya, wow, it's not going to be easy, and they said yesterday on ESPN that the LAL have the 9th strongest SOS from here on out. That's a really tough 4 game stretch. They better stop dicking around and put some wins together asap.

RLundi
01-21-2013, 11:32 AM
No, they are done. They MIGHT sneak in as the 8th (don't see it happening) but if they do, OKC will absolutely obliterate them.

heyman321
01-21-2013, 11:36 AM
Shows how big an impact Steve Blake is.

Sly Guy
01-21-2013, 11:38 AM
They need to trade Pau immediately. After that, D'Antoni must incorporate a more fluid offense to where it is not solely based on just individual production but rather the team. Kobe must stop taking so many shots, he must get Dwight more involved or else he is useless in Pringles system. The half hearted shot-to-pass from Kobe and Nash to Dwight aren't going to work, I don't know why they keep running it. They call me future GM for a reason.

I don't think the iso system is actually his idea though. I just think he's lacking any kind of control of that team right now, and things have broken down into schoolyard style offenses.

xxplayerxx23
01-21-2013, 02:01 PM
48 wins isn't going to be th 8 seed. 43-45 is more like it this year

Badluck33
01-21-2013, 02:10 PM
This Lakers team reminds me of what happens when you go off-roading with a Lamborghini.

Joking aside, the Lakers really suck.

D-Leethal
01-21-2013, 02:23 PM
Jeremy Lin ain't walking thru that door.

The opportunity to miraculously transfer to the Eastern Conference and sneak in barely over .500 is not walking thru that door.

Mike Woodson is not walking thru that door.

Mike D'Antoni is already thru that door.

Lakers are not making the playoffs.

JasonJohnHorn
01-21-2013, 04:05 PM
The season is over for the Lakers. Just to finish 41-41 they HAVE to go 27-15. They way they are playing right now, they will not be approaching that winning percentage, so it is highly unlikely they will even finish at .500 let alone earn a spot in the Western conference playoffs.

The Lakers need to fire 'Antoni NOW!! He was clearly the wrong man for the job. I don't care if they only end up putting Bernie Bickerstaff in charge (he is 4-1 as the Lakers head coach this season).

A 6 game winning streak is required just to get this team to .500 and then they will be tied for the 8th seed with Portland and Houston. But as it stands right now, they will have to leap frog 4 teams in the standings to make the playoffs.

I made a thread questioning whether the Lakers would make the playoffs in December and Lakers fans shrugged it off saying: It's only December. I don't care what their record is until January is over. Well, January is almost over, and they are 6 games below .500!

There is no more time to let 'Antoni fawk around with this roster. Mitch should have had Birdman and Kenyon Martin in for workouts by now to fill in for Hill who is out for the season, and something should have been done to replace Nash while he was out, but Mitch sat on his @$$ waiting for 'Antoni to come up with a solution....


SMH... one of the most talented rosters ever put together and they won't even be in the playoffs.

sep11ie
01-21-2013, 04:22 PM
Jeremy Lin ain't walking thru that door.

The opportunity to miraculously transfer to the Eastern Conference and sneak in barely over .500 is not walking thru that door.

Mike Woodson is not walking thru that door.

Mike D'Antoni is already thru that door.

Lakers are not making the playoffs.

That thru that door line is pretty lame.

lakersfan01
01-21-2013, 04:22 PM
Nope but as long as Kobe scores his points he's happy

Tony_Starks
01-21-2013, 04:51 PM
Welcome to panic city. meanwhile back at the ranch after all the hoopla Lakers are only 3 games out of the playoffs......

Guppyfighter
01-21-2013, 04:58 PM
Welcome to panic city. meanwhile back at the ranch after all the hoopla Lakers are only 3 games out of the playoffs......

Yet, statistically, only a 24 percent chance to make the playoffs.

Tony_Starks
01-21-2013, 05:25 PM
Yet, statistically, only a 24 percent chance to make the playoffs.


Those stats are based on the 8th seed winning almost 50 games. That's probably not going to happen this year. Have you seen the teams ahead of the Lakers?

dwadefan45
01-21-2013, 05:40 PM
Seriously, where did you get those numbers from? We are only 3 ****ing games(or something like that) behind the 8th seed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssBzkUobIWM

ManRam
01-21-2013, 05:41 PM
I don't think they'll go 31 - 11, but I do still think they'll make it.

The 8th seed will have a lesser record than it has in recent years. The probably won't need 48 wins. They might not even need to be much over .500, if even at all. I think Houston will continue to play sub-.500 ball, I think Portland's lack of depth will KO them, Minnesota's injuries will be too much...they can do it.

They're 3.5 games back in January. Basically, they just have to play slightly better basketball than Houston for the second half of the season and they'll get in. 3.5 games isn't much with 40+ games remaining. I think they can surpass Houston.

blahblahyoutoo
01-21-2013, 05:55 PM
As long as Phil Jackson isn't there, the Lakers aren't going ANYWHERE. Kobe can't play facilitator. He NEEDS the triangle.

i don't get the opinion that phil changes everything.
phil lost in the 1st ground his last season with the lakers.
dwight has proven to have no offensive game and to be a coach killer.

--23--
01-21-2013, 06:11 PM
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c58.0.843.403/p843x403/385175_10151190014726006_541139369_n.jpg

lol i like Dwight but i hate this about him and awesome sig :laugh2:



i don't get the opinion that phil changes everything.
phil lost in the 1st ground his last season with the lakers.
dwight has proven to have no offensive game and to be a coach killer.

What? No he didn't. :confused:

Guppyfighter
01-21-2013, 06:15 PM
Those stats are based on the 8th seed winning almost 50 games. That's probably not going to happen this year. Have you seen the teams ahead of the Lakers?

That's not true. It's based on the eight seed winning 42 games. Jesus.

Tony_Starks
01-21-2013, 07:57 PM
That's not true. It's based on the eight seed winning 42 games. Jesus.


What in the world are you talking about? The op said they need to win 31 games that would put their win total to 48.

Guppyfighter
01-21-2013, 08:50 PM
What in the world are you talking about? The op said they need to win 31 games that would put their win total to 48.

I don't care what OP said. This is based on the projections for the eight seed and the Lakers remaining schedule and what they have to do and the percentage of times they do it based on 5000 season simulations.

Courtesy of Hollinger

Bishnoff
01-21-2013, 09:20 PM
I hope the Lakers don't make the Playoffs for the Suns sake, so that we land another lottery pick :p

They still have a good chance of scraping in though.

steelcityroller
01-21-2013, 09:55 PM
It's incredible that they might miss the playoffs.

Might? They are gonna miss the playoffs.

ChicagoFan4Eva
01-21-2013, 09:58 PM
They CAN. They need a better system

McPeak92
01-21-2013, 10:32 PM
they are 3.5 games out....these lakers need "x wins" projections crack me up sometimes.

petersmagic12
01-21-2013, 10:49 PM
Welcome to panic city. meanwhile back at the ranch after all the hoopla Lakers are only 3 games out of the playoffs......

You have to look deeper then they are only 3 games behind the 8th place team. If you look at the rest of their games they are fighting an uphill battle. The lakers are 17-22 right now, which means they have 43 games left in the season. of those 43 games 25 of those games are against teams with a record of 500 or better. and more then half of those teams are well over 500. Therefore, even if they win beat all 18 games against the below 500 teams they still have to win at least 8-10 more games against the teams with a record greater then 500. Can it still be done yes, but the door is closing on the lakers. So when is the time to panic if not now. They are not exactly playing great basketball besides Kobe. No team is going to want Gasol now considering how bad his knees are unless the lakers get considerably less value for him.

The Lakers are in trouble and if you don't think so you need to wake up. there next four games are against competitive teams they loose all of the those they become 9 games under .500. The numbers are against the lakers. and if the lakers don't make the playoffs I don't think dwight is staying. That is just my opinion. So do i think they will make the playoffs is there still a chance yes but the door is closing fast.

JasonJohnHorn
01-21-2013, 10:53 PM
they are 3.5 games out....these lakers need "x wins" projections crack me up sometimes.

3.5 game might not seem like much, and I do realize that it is likely that a .500 team will sneak into the Western conference playoffs this year (Portland and Houston are at .500 right now and are tied for the 8th seed), but it's a bigger battle than you might think As I said, the Lakers need to for 27-15 to finish at .500. That is a high winning percentage considering how they have been playing and the injuries they have.

And then you take into consideration that they are playing the Bulls and Memphis in the next two games on the road, then they come back home to play the Thunder and the Jazz. They may not even be able to get a win in the next 4 games, which would put them 10 games under .500 before they finally have a game against a sub .500 when the Hornets come to visit them. Their following three games are all on the road against sub five hundred teams (Detroit, Phoenix and Minny) all of which they could win, which could put them on a 4 game win streak until they play BK, Boston and MIA on the road (with a gimmie game against the Bobcats in there). Realistically, looking at their schedule, from now until Feb. 10th, they will be lucky to win half those games, which would put them exactly where they are right now, 6 games under .500. The thing is though, that assume that the Lakers will be playing consistently enough to beat the sub .500 teams, which they haven't been as we have seen in Toronto. We are talking about a team who is 3-9 over the last 12 games. They lost to the 76ers, the Raptors, the Nuggets and the Rockets. What makes you think that they will be able to pull their $#!T together and start beating teams like the Clippers, Thunder and Heat?

ThunderousDemon
01-21-2013, 10:57 PM
Another thread related to the Lakers. :dance:

Mr.Popular :bow:

TheNumber37
01-21-2013, 11:14 PM
I really don't think 48 games is the threshold.
It's all about catching up with teams like Portland, Utah, Houston and Mini who will be fighting for those last two spots.
So, really they need to o about 26-16.... Easier, but still not happening. I just hope they wise up and fire Mike D over the Summer. Otherwise, they'll have to super revamp their roster from everyone not named Kobe, Nash and Howard (assuming he resigns) in order to to build a team that fits into what Mike D wants to do.

Duncan = Donkey
01-22-2013, 12:43 AM
This Lakers team reminds me of what happens when you go off-roading with a Lamborghini.

Joking aside, the Lakers really suck.

Lamborghini have off road vehicles......

Money_23
01-22-2013, 01:03 AM
They can do it if Kobe shoots way less. If he keeps chucking 20+ shots a game and makes only a third the Lakers are done this year, or every year until the dude retires.

justinnum1
01-22-2013, 01:04 AM
what is their front office waiting for?

Badluck33
01-22-2013, 05:11 PM
and with the 10th pick in the 2013 NBA draft, the Los Angeles Lakers select....

abe_froman
01-22-2013, 05:14 PM
and with the 10th pick in the 2013 NBA draft, the Los Angeles Lakers select....

the lakers traded their pick to the suns,so they dont even get the lotto player this year

reffahead
01-22-2013, 05:23 PM
The Lakers are fugged. They have 7 straight games on the road in the next 2.5 weeks.

D-Will4Prez
01-22-2013, 05:24 PM
11-31 is a much more realistic goal for the Lakers at this point.

Badluck33
01-22-2013, 06:50 PM
the lakers traded their pick to the suns,so they dont even get the lotto player this year

whoooooops!

Welcome, Laker Fans, to mediocrity!!!

ssnsocalfan
01-22-2013, 06:59 PM
AS a Laker fan, who cares if we make the playoffs? We count championships, not playoff appearances!!

NBA_Starter
01-22-2013, 10:09 PM
I will not say no chance but not likely.

ThaDubs
01-22-2013, 11:48 PM
This Lakers team reminds me of what happens when you go off-roading with a Lamborghini.

A better analogy would be receiving a beautiful new Lambo and getting ready to take it for a spin on the autobahns, then realizing when it's too late that it's really a disguise and under it is a ****** half-totaled Corolla and you're engine is a self-conceited d-bag who doesn't pass the ball and throws up over 20 shots per night.

SINCESTARBURY25
01-23-2013, 12:51 AM
At least the west will let different teams have their chance now. I got sick of watching the Lakers every year.

OceanSpray
01-24-2013, 07:56 PM
Am I the only one that notices the fact Lakers are only 4 games from making it? They aren't out of it. As long as Phoenix and Houston keep losing as well, LAL still have a chance. They will make it. The question is how they will play against Memphis, OKC, LAC, or Spurs.

Hawkeye15
01-24-2013, 08:34 PM
Am I the only one that notices the fact Lakers are only 4 games from making it? They aren't out of it. As long as Phoenix and Houston keep losing as well, LAL still have a chance. They will make it. The question is how they will play against Memphis, OKC, LAC, or Spurs.

no, you aren't the only one who noticed that. Nor is 48 games the threshold this year, it will be closer to 42-43. The west is weaker finally. I still don't see the Lakers making it, they just have so many problems, but its for sure not an impossibility, as their record now in previous seasons would have doomed them by now.

Lancelot
01-24-2013, 09:46 PM
No I do not. I do think that a new version of getgarnett.com will pop up.