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Stunner
01-18-2013, 04:02 PM
I was having a discussion saying how his 2nd season in the league was his best all around play ; that only his fg % was up by 2 and block up by 1. They're saying he is a way better defender now and etc but a lot of players have improved but their improvements haven't shown up in the stats like a Blake Griffin for example. So am i wrong by this stance ? I will agree that he has been the most consistent Net this year.

DoMeFavors
01-18-2013, 05:49 PM
best center in the east by far

KniCks4LiFe
01-18-2013, 05:52 PM
he's having an allstar yr. He's actually an anchor in the paint defense. He's not Noah defense or Tyson Chandler but he's very good. Offensively there's no center in the game better at him, and he's still learning. So yeh this is his career breakthrough season.

Chronz
01-18-2013, 05:54 PM
He played 82 games back then, thats prolly the biggest benefit but hes clearly been better this year. Look at his per minute stats. Hes putting up the same numbers in less time, that can only happen by virtrue of improvement.

netsgiantsyanks
01-18-2013, 06:08 PM
but he sucks! :rolleyes:

2-ONE-5
01-18-2013, 06:15 PM
best center in the east by far

false

TrueFan420
01-18-2013, 06:58 PM
he's having an allstar yr. He's actually an anchor in the paint defense. He's not Noah defense or Tyson Chandler but he's very good. Offensively there's no center in the game better at him, and he's still learning. So yeh this is his career breakthrough season.

Props for a Knicks fan giving a nets player props

njnets
01-18-2013, 07:12 PM
i watch many nets games and his defensive presence is much better this year than any of his other years. the numbers represent it as well.

besides blocks, he is actually altering a lot of shots as well. his rebounding is still a concern but he has been doing a solid job and the PF for the nets really help in that department as well.

offensively, his jumper is really expanding his game and he is becoming better as well, even if the shots look awkward.

WAYNEBO
01-18-2013, 07:22 PM
best center in the east by far

Homer much? Great year, NOT best center in the East, by far.

DoMeFavors
01-18-2013, 07:31 PM
you people didnt even vote him in the last 2 years on PSD top 10 centers. some said he isnt a top 20 center.

bronxbomba26
01-18-2013, 07:38 PM
Best center in the East? NO

Best offensive center in basketball? I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say yes.

Lets just say if the Dwight-BKN rumors start back up, I think it's LA who would have to build a package around Dwight to get Brook and not the other way around.

Corey
01-18-2013, 07:46 PM
Best center in the East? NO

Best offensive center in basketball? I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say yes.

Lets just say if the Dwight-BKN rumors start back up, I think it's LA who would have to build a package around Dwight to get Brook and not the other way around.Lol @ the notion of adding to Dwight to get Lopez.

jimm120
01-18-2013, 07:48 PM
you people didnt even vote him in the last 2 years on PSD top 10 centers. some said he isnt a top 20 center.

there was a reason for that... (>_>)

Lopez regressed for 2 consecutive years from his already weak rebounding and defense. Plus, He played all of 5 games last year.

So, he was already low to start with...then is out a whole season and the few games that he does play are even worse than his previous two years.

You have to understand that its about trends and what have you done now. Look at Melo. one bad year, in which he only played badly for like 3 months (out of the 6 that the NBA season has) and people dropped him out of their top 10's and into the #15-30 rank.

And Lopez doesn't have the resume that Melo had.


As for another thing...I don't think anyone every disputed Lopez' offense. I think everyone thought he was one of the better offensive centers. Its just his defense was bad and rebounding horrid.

But his offense has improved and his defense has improved to acceptable levels.

jimm120
01-18-2013, 07:50 PM
Best center in the East? NO

Best offensive center in basketball? I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say yes.

Lets just say if the Dwight-BKN rumors start back up, I think it's LA who would have to build a package around Dwight to get Brook and not the other way around.

wut? nah...not yet, at least. Dwight is still "The Name" in this and trust me, you pay for that.

javsvt
01-18-2013, 08:10 PM
Props for a Knicks fan giving a nets player props

He is a Brooklyn net fan....
Brook is having a good year, but his defense is not great, so can you call him the best center for lack of defense? Don't know.....

rockbottom2010
01-18-2013, 11:31 PM
hes not even at his prime yet

king4day
01-18-2013, 11:32 PM
Being healthy will do that.
I wonder if Orlando is regretting not trading for him.

oak2455
01-18-2013, 11:57 PM
he's having an allstar yr. He's actually an anchor in the paint defense. He's not Noah defense or Tyson Chandler but he's very good. Offensively there's no center in the game better at him, and he's still learning. So yeh this is his career breakthrough season.

:facepalm:

JerseysFinest
01-19-2013, 12:00 AM
:facepalm:

What's wrong with his post?

Chill_Will_24
01-19-2013, 12:05 AM
Lol @ the notion of adding to Dwight to get Lopez.

lol believe it or not a lot of Nets fans think this way. it's pretty sad actually.

Brook has improved a lot defensively and he is benefiting greatly from the talent around him offensively. Where i wish he would improve is in his aggressiveness. He can dominate the game in 3-4 minutes stretches and then let a physical big take him out of his game or let the refs frustrate him when he is not getting calls. he relies too much on drawing fouls and fadeaways.

Simply he needs to play more like a big man and less like a guard in order for the Nets to succeed in the east. Too many physical bigs in the east that he will have to see in the post season. We already know he cannot score on Hibbert at all unless his perimeter shot is falling. He struggles mightily vs Chandler even if his stats seem nice and Noah gives him fits

Chill_Will_24
01-19-2013, 12:16 AM
Being healthy will do that.
I wonder if Orlando is regretting not trading for him.

I would not. brook does nothing for them in terms of rebuilding. Vucevic of whatever his names is looks like a very promising rookie. They made the right move.

Chill_Will_24
01-19-2013, 12:16 AM
hes not even at his prime yet

He needs to work on his core and on his leg strength

Oldmantrash
01-19-2013, 01:27 AM
I don't know if there is a center I'd rather have for this Nets team.
Dwight needs shooters around him, he's better of course, but the We need his offense.

Brook had a huge block tonight at the end, got the ball too.
He's become a top 5 center easily

Chill_Will_24
01-19-2013, 01:30 AM
I don't know if there is a center I'd rather have for this Nets team.
Dwight needs shooters around him, he's better of course, but the We need his offense.

Brook had a huge block tonight at the end, got the ball too.
He's become a top 5 center easily

I can think of a few.

and no Dwight does not need shooters. it's just beneficial to the offense to have some when you have a player that demands so much attention inside. Dwight Howard can still do what he does without shooters

oak2455
01-19-2013, 01:54 AM
What's wrong with his post?

He's actually an anchor in the paint defense. He's not Noah defense or Tyson Chandler but he's very good

thats all I needed ;)

njnets
01-19-2013, 01:55 AM
the nets have a great group around him as well. 2 very good guards and defensive forwards that can help cover some of the weaknesses he has when it comes to rotations and rebounding. his biggest weakness is rebounding, nets fans can even say that. many say that him not averaging double digits really hurts his value.

great example tonight: reggie evans grabs 20 boards. when a player on the frontline grabs 20 and lopez grabs 6, i look by it. i would like him to average more than 7 on a daily basis but if the other positions are rebounding well, its fine with me. if the team was being hurt by his lack of rebounding then i would say that it is a great cause for concern. for now, it is not severe bc players like evans are playing well.

still though, this is his best year. having much better impact defensively and scoring very efficiently.

problem looking into the future is there will not always be a good rebounder next to him. he will have to shoulder the load at some point in his career.

Chill_Will_24
01-19-2013, 02:06 AM
He's actually an anchor in the paint defense. He's not Noah defense or Tyson Chandler but he's very good

thats all I needed ;)

he is not wrong ;)

Lopez may not be an elite defender but he has shown himself to be a good and improved defender this year

KniCks4LiFe
01-19-2013, 02:07 AM
He's actually an anchor in the paint defense. He's not Noah defense or Tyson Chandler but he's very good

thats all I needed ;)
he actually is homie. If you check the numbers, the front court for the Nets is solid, it's the backcourt that has holes. :laugh2:

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-19-2013, 02:21 AM
Oh the days of many on this site calling him one of the worst players in the NBA. (like last year for example....)

Kids not even in his prime yet. If he stays healthy, I'm more than confident going ahead with him.

envymamba24
01-19-2013, 03:20 AM
he is not wrong ;)

Lopez may not be an elite defender but he has shown himself to be a good and improved defender this year

josh smith disagrees...hes stills chasing him up the court and getting dunked on as we speak

arkanian215
01-19-2013, 10:36 AM
0a

waveycrockett
01-19-2013, 10:49 AM
Brook has been more efficient on the offensive end and is playing smarter on defense. He is not Noah on defense but we are clearly a much worse defensive group without him. He's going to improve even more . He basically has done nothing that past 2 offseasons because recovering from surgery/illness. When he gets stronger in the weight room like his brother has his post offense will be much better.

netsgiantsyanks
01-19-2013, 12:22 PM
He's actually an anchor in the paint defense. He's not Noah defense or Tyson Chandler but he's very good

thats all I needed ;)

take brook lopez out of the equation and the nets are a horrible defensive team. believe it or not, he is a difference this year.

oak2455
01-19-2013, 01:53 PM
take brook lopez out of the equation and the nets are a horrible defensive team. believe it or not, he is a difference this year.

sorry don't think he's the reason I think Crash would like a word with you on this :) BTW what happened to Humphries he's gone?? seriously he's killing my fantasy team

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-19-2013, 02:29 PM
sorry don't think he's the reason I think Crash would like a word with you on this :) BTW what happened to Humphries he's gone?? seriously he's killing my fantasy team

If you think Brook isn't the reason our defense is improved, you haven't been watching.

Chill_Will_24
01-20-2013, 12:29 AM
josh smith disagrees...hes stills chasing him up the court and getting dunked on as we speak

Yea because that means something.

Players in the NBA getting dunked on :shrug: go figure...

Chill_Will_24
01-20-2013, 12:31 AM
sorry don't think he's the reason I think Crash would like a word with you on this :) BTW what happened to Humphries he's gone?? seriously he's killing my fantasy team

Crash is overrated defensively and i can tell you are just looking for attention and know nothing about the Nets. Best to go get a clue before you speak on things regarding a team you do not follow.

Crash cannot stay in front of anyone anymore. He is literally getting by on whatever athleticism he has left in the tank.

xxplayerxx23
01-20-2013, 12:49 AM
He is very good. He has always had talent. His defense has improved and his offense is still great. He is a nice player top 6-8 center.

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-20-2013, 12:52 AM
He is very good. He has always had talent. His defense has improved and his offense is still great. He is a nice player top 6-8 center.

Agreed with you until this. There are 7 better Centers than Lopez? Give me a break.

tp13baby
01-20-2013, 12:52 AM
Homer much? Great year, NOT best center in the East, by far.

Really? Outside of Noah for me, who is in the conversation?

tp13baby
01-20-2013, 12:55 AM
He is very good. He has always had talent. His defense has improved and his offense is still great. He is a nice player top 6-8 center.

Seriously what centers are bettered than Brook? Brook is top 4 easily.

oak2455
01-20-2013, 01:07 AM
Crash is overrated defensively and i can tell you are just looking for attention and know nothing about the Nets. Best to go get a clue before you speak on things regarding a team you do not follow.

Crash cannot stay in front of anyone anymore. He is literally getting by on whatever athleticism he has left in the tank.

really I was replying to someone else , ......it's an opinion a discussion thread and he's not good defensively .....offensively yes:D but on D he's average at BEST!!!!

oak2455
01-20-2013, 01:17 AM
1. Howard
2.Duncan
3.Garnett
4.Bosh
5.Tyson
6.Noah
7.Gasol
8.Hibbert

no order but I think are better

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-20-2013, 02:05 AM
1. Howard
2.Duncan
3.Garnett
4.Bosh
5.Tyson
6.Noah
7.Gasol
8.Hibbert

no order but I think are better
So much wrong with this....

DoMeFavors
01-20-2013, 02:12 AM
1. Howard
2.Duncan
3.Garnett
4.Bosh
5.Tyson
6.Noah
7.Gasol
8.Hibbert

no order but I think are better

None of those guys are better than Brook this year and I cant take you seriously when you have Hibbert and Tyson Chandler in there. lol pathetic.

ThaDubs
01-20-2013, 02:22 AM
Okay I'm not a Brooklyn fan but in my opinion Brook is the best center in the entire league.

tp13baby
01-20-2013, 02:45 AM
1. Howard
2.Duncan
3.Garnett
4.Bosh
5.Tyson
6.Noah
7.Gasol
8.Hibbert

no order but I think are better

Ill agree with 1. 6 and 7 are in Brooks region.

But to Hibbert and Chandler is disgusting...

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-21-2013, 04:33 AM
Okay I'm not a Brooklyn fan but in my opinion Brook is the best center in the entire league.

Not yet, but getting closer.

He115ing
01-21-2013, 12:59 PM
It is also his best year as a human being.

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2013, 01:10 PM
Not yet, but getting closer.

That's how I'd answer that. I do notice also eversince PJ took over he's seen more post plays for him than he has ever in his career.

Robbw241
01-21-2013, 02:12 PM
8.Hibbert



:laugh: Delete your account

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2013, 07:24 PM
send him to the ASG. He's an allstar period.