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Hellcrooner
01-17-2013, 11:15 PM
If one of the players that runned succesfull franchises to multiple rings, ( Russell, Magic, Bird, Jordan, Shaq,Duncan, Kobe.)

Was busted for having consistently used dope during their careers? ( yeah im thinking this because of Lance).

Should the rings be removed from their TEAMa?
How much of a hit would their legacys get?

Would they be deleted from the story books and their awards and accolades be forfeited?

What do you think?

sep11ie
01-17-2013, 11:48 PM
WtF bOzer?!!?!

Sactown
01-18-2013, 01:50 AM
No, they get a 10 day suspension.

Kashmir13579
01-18-2013, 02:00 AM
I think athletes should be allowed to dope. (within the bounds of safety and reason)

JEDean89
01-18-2013, 02:01 AM
doping wouldn't be the advantage in the nba that it is in a sport like cycling. sure doping would help but there are plenty of jacked basketball players who are no good. the skill level involved in basketball is much higher than in cycling, and the importance of strength in conditioning is just about everything in cycling. i wouldn't be surprised if it came out that Dwight Howard doped, but it just doesn't seem to make sense for basketball like it does for cycling.

Dade County
01-18-2013, 02:51 AM
kobe?... and rose might have token a wonder drug.


lol

dalton749
01-18-2013, 03:22 AM
if u mean weed who gives a ****. if u me steroids than it completely takes away from it because it really does put you on a different level

NYKnicksAllDay
01-18-2013, 04:42 AM
I don't care if athletes use PEDs as long as they aren't using ones that are against the law.

KingPosey
01-18-2013, 05:00 AM
doping wouldn't be the advantage in the nba that it is in a sport like cycling. sure doping would help but there are plenty of jacked basketball players who are no good. the skill level involved in basketball is much higher than in cycling, and the importance of strength in conditioning is just about everything in cycling. i wouldn't be surprised if it came out that Dwight Howard doped, but it just doesn't seem to make sense for basketball like it does for cycling.you are very mistaken if you think it wouldn't serve a huge purpose in a sport like basketball. It would help a player for SEVERAL reasons and would aid a basketball player much more than a baseball player.

Chronz
01-18-2013, 05:03 AM
Yea I think it helps baseball players more but thats the optimist inside of me

shep33
01-18-2013, 05:22 AM
Anybody read that interview on hoopshype about "Why NBA Players Don't Use PEDs"?. It's a terrible article.

You have to wonder about PED's in basketball. I'm sure we all believe they're used, but it kinda slides out of our minds.

shep33
01-18-2013, 05:31 AM
You do have to wonder though. These guys are freakishly athletic, plus a lot of them just don't get hurt. I don't want to give out names, but there are some players out there who's heads have exploded in size since coming into the league.

Like, Barry Bonds type of size increase. Anyways, I found this online. It pertains to doping in the NBA and an international anti-doping official's opinions: http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/19/international-anti-doping-official-says-nba-testing-has-gaps/


They’ve got gaps in their program, between what they do and what we suggest would be better,” David Howman said…


“They do not feel they have such an issue as the other major leagues and therefore haven’t addressed it in quite the same way,” Howman said. “I just think you’ve got to be very careful when you start saying performance-enhancing drugs are not beneficial in any sport, because you’re going to be proven wrong. And you’ll be proven wrong when you’re not expecting it.”

tp13baby
01-18-2013, 05:52 AM
You do have to wonder though. These guys are freakishly athletic, plus a lot of them just don't get hurt. I don't want to give out names, but there are some players out there who's heads have exploded in size since coming into the league.

Like, Barry Bonds type of size increase. Anyways, I found this online. It pertains to doping in the NBA and an international anti-doping official's opinions: http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/19/international-anti-doping-official-says-nba-testing-has-gaps/

What do you mean in size? Steroids don't make anyone grow taller. Actually shorter for that matter. Some are built big though. I just think he would be easy to see who uses them. Sports such as Football and Baseball can be different with the impacts of Steroids, their careers are stronger for longer cause of the fact its a different push of the body. But the thing is in basketball the stress on tendons as it is is enormous. More than any other sport and the PEDs just make those tendons even weaker. I think you would see a smaller career in basketball with them. Im sure they are used though

2-ONE-5
01-18-2013, 10:25 AM
I think athletes should be allowed to dope. (within the bounds of safety and reason)

you cant be serious?

JasonJohnHorn
01-18-2013, 12:26 PM
I don't see PEDs being much use to NBA players. A lot of the things Lance did was geared toward long endurance, like the blood. Also, the NBA is very good about testing. They show up whenever they want without warning. I remember reading an article about it once where Mourning said he was in Africa with a couple other players in the off-season doing some charity work (putting up a school or something) and the NBA sent a rep out there to test one of the guys he was with.

I think considering the nature of the NBA (and I may be wrong here because I don't know a lot about PEDs), doesn't allow much room for improvement with PEDs. Like, take a guy like Kobe or D-Rose, or Wade. Are their games going to be improved if they use PEDs? I don't think so. Gaining muscle mass won't help them they way it would help a short distance runner like Ben Johnson. And guys who use PEDs are generally injury prone as well.

I could see some post players benefiting. If they are stronger and bigger they could muscle their way in the post better.

That said, I'm confident that the NBA regulates this very well and that there is very little use of PEDs in the NBA. I mean, they NBA has suspended so many players for infractions on various drugs (I think, and I may be remembering wrong here, that Webber and Robert Parish both got suspended for testing positive for pot at one point during their careers). The NBA is not like MLB. In the MLB the union had a strangle hold over the owners and it was the union that put such strong restrictions on testing (players were given two week advance notice and such), and owners were at a disadvantage, and the home-run races were good for ratings and revenue, so they just let is slide. I mean, in baseball people watch it to see home runs. In the NBA you watch to see guys who dunk and block and shoot the lights out. Those are are skill based things (you need to create for yourself to get to the basket, you need to be able to shoot, you need to be able to time your blocks and steals). So much of the NBA is about skill.

that said, if a player did get caught using after his career was over and he had won several titles, I'd assume the team accomplishments would be left as they were, but individual achievements would be revoked. Then the question is: who gets them in place of that?

king4day
01-18-2013, 01:49 PM
Since baseball doesn't take records or wins, I'd guess the worst punishment they'd receive would be not getting elected to the HoF