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TyrionLannister
01-16-2013, 07:49 PM
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IndyRealist
01-16-2013, 08:49 PM
They gave up a pick to get Lowry. While it -is- a sunk cost, I'd bet the Raps will keep Lowry just to avoid admitting they were wrong all long.

Tmath
01-16-2013, 09:00 PM
Lowry, he is the better player.

Jose is expiring, trade him to get some value back.

ManRam
01-16-2013, 09:02 PM
Keep Lowry...trade Jose.

I think it's pretty obvious.

Spiggity_ace
01-16-2013, 09:18 PM
jose is the better pure pg, but lowry is the overall better player, pre injury wut was he avgin like 23 7 and 7? and phenomenal 3 pt shooting,.

i love jose but keep kyle

Sly Guy
01-16-2013, 10:20 PM
I'm beginning to worry about lowry's durability, which would probably be the biggest reason to keep jose.

Hellcrooner
01-16-2013, 10:58 PM
who would sign back for say 4 years 20 million
and who will ask for 5 years 60 million?

Is it worth the difference?

Whats more likely to get them a Good player.

Lowrys hype or Joses Hype?

greg_ory_2005
01-16-2013, 11:11 PM
Lowry

bucketss
01-16-2013, 11:32 PM
who would sign back for say 4 years 20 million
and who will ask for 5 years 60 million?

Is it worth the difference?

Whats more likely to get them a Good player.

Lowrys hype or Joses Hype?

why the heck would jose sign back with a lottery team that has been trying to trade him for the past 3 seasons?

Hellcrooner
01-16-2013, 11:40 PM
why the heck would jose sign back with a lottery team that has been trying to trade him for the past 3 seasons?

if they trade lowry for a player in OTHER position, he might.
Team is looking better now.
he has loyalty.

Rego247
01-16-2013, 11:40 PM
Lowry.

Jose's going to book in the offseason

VinceCarter
01-16-2013, 11:43 PM
Lowry for the future.

JasonJohnHorn
01-16-2013, 11:54 PM
As a Raptors fan I am conflicted. Jose has been with us his entire career and part of me would like to see a player who actually spends his entire career in Toronto. He's always played well for us.

Lowry is a good player, but he is an average PG in this league. Let's be honest. Coangelo has made a career out of build mediocrity. The Fields signing? Kapono? Turk? Jack? Trades for TJ Ford and O'Neal? And Marion? Extensions to DeRozen and Bargnani? Bottom line is Coangelo has been giving out generous contracts to average players. These guys are making as much money as some players who are top-five at their position, yet none of these players have even been in the top ten at their positions and frankly aren't even starters on most teams.

Calderon is a different story though. He has been, over the last several season, perhaps the best player maker behind CP3 and Rondo. He isn't the defender they are, but he is also a much better shooter than Rondo, and I think a better shooter than CP3 as well. If the Raptors could get something worthwhile back for Calderon, I say fine. Move him. But if there isn't a legit offer that gives us a starter, or early first-round pick, or solid young prospect back in return, I say keep Calderon and sign him to an extension at the end of the season.

I'm not saying that means you have to get rid of Lowry, but bottom line is this: Lowry is not going to be winning you any championships any time soon. Of all the legit contenders in the league, the only PG he is better than is Chalmers. The Raptors gave up a pick for him, yes, but at the same time, he isn't going to be All-Star in this league judging from what he has done so far in his career, and the pick would have been a waste anyways since Coangelo would be making it. Better to trade it for a guy you know can at least compete in the league.

I say keep Calderon, but I don't suggest you have to get rid of Lowry to do that.

Tmath
01-17-2013, 12:10 AM
As a Raptors fan I am conflicted. Jose has been with us his entire career and part of me would like to see a player who actually spends his entire career in Toronto. He's always played well for us.

Lowry is a good player, but he is an average PG in this league. Let's be honest. Coangelo has made a career out of build mediocrity. The Fields signing? Kapono? Turk? Jack? Trades for TJ Ford and O'Neal? And Marion? Extensions to DeRozen and Bargnani? Bottom line is Coangelo has been giving out generous contracts to average players. These guys are making as much money as some players who are top-five at their position, yet none of these players have even been in the top ten at their positions and frankly aren't even starters on most teams.

Calderon is a different story though. He has been, over the last several season, perhaps the best player maker behind CP3 and Rondo. He isn't the defender they are, but he is also a much better shooter than Rondo, and I think a better shooter than CP3 as well. If the Raptors could get something worthwhile back for Calderon, I say fine. Move him. But if there isn't a legit offer that gives us a starter, or early first-round pick, or solid young prospect back in return, I say keep Calderon and sign him to an extension at the end of the season.

I'm not saying that means you have to get rid of Lowry, but bottom line is this: Lowry is not going to be winning you any championships any time soon. Of all the legit contenders in the league, the only PG he is better than is Chalmers. The Raptors gave up a pick for him, yes, but at the same time, he isn't going to be All-Star in this league judging from what he has done so far in his career, and the pick would have been a waste anyways since Coangelo would be making it. Better to trade it for a guy you know can at least compete in the league.

I say keep Calderon, but I don't suggest you have to get rid of Lowry to do that.

So you are complaining about Colangelo getting mediocre players but you want to keep Calderon who hasn't got us anywhere since he's been a Raptor?

Lowry is the superior player, he may not be a star, but he is a heck of a basketball player.

You don't keep around a player just because you want a guy to retire a Raptor.