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Guppyfighter
01-16-2013, 01:45 AM
Lakers chance of making the playoffs are staggeringly low and they are too far behind to even consider getting a sixth seed. Nash went to the Lakers at another attempt for a ring. Seeing as that likely won't happen at this point I believe the Lakers should be trying to move Nash to a team that is a buyer right now. I haven't looked at contracts, but I believe the teams that could use him are The Grizzlies (off the bench), the Pacers (Off the bench), and the Heat (starting over Chalmers), and the Jazz (starting.)

Looking at Nash's contract I think the Grizzlies and the Heat probably can't get him. However, the Pacers could move DJ and a filler to make the contract work and they vastly upgrade their back up PG position as well as improving their biggest weakness, the offense.

Since Mo Williams out the Jazz could use a starting PG to improve the team's chances of making the playoffs or even possibly getting an upset. They also have some moveable pieces that may seem attractive to the Lakers.

Thoughts?

justinnum1
01-16-2013, 01:48 AM
lakers won 2 in a row bro. close this.

JNoel
01-16-2013, 01:49 AM
^Forreal. Lakers just need to trade Gasol for a couple of mediocre pieces now and they might just get on the road to winning. Nash is perfect for this team imo, they just have to implement him into he offense.

Guppyfighter
01-16-2013, 01:51 AM
I'd like to see Nash have a chance at a ring and I don't believe the Lakers currently provide the best chance for that. Lakers should be looking to retool for next year and I don't think Nash (39) needs to be part of the team for next year.

Duncan = Donkey
01-16-2013, 01:52 AM
my thoughts are that you should the alcohol down and go to bed

LoveMeOrHateMe
01-16-2013, 01:52 AM
Lakers chance of making the playoffs are staggeringly low and they are too far behind to even consider getting a sixth seed. Nash went to the Lakers at another attempt for a ring. Seeing as that likely won't happen at this point I believe the Lakers should be trying to move Nash to a team that is a buyer right now. I haven't looked at contracts, but I believe the teams that could use him are The Grizzlies (off the bench), the Pacers (Off the bench), and the Heat (starting over Chalmers), and the Jazz (starting.)

Looking at Nash's contract I think the Grizzlies and the Heat probably can't get him. However, the Pacers could move DJ and a filler to make the contract work and they vastly upgrade their back up PG position as well as improving their biggest weakness, the offense.

Since Mo Williams out the Jazz could use a starting PG to improve the team's chances of making the playoffs or even possibly getting an upset. They also have some moveable pieces that may seem attractive to the Lakers.

Thoughts?

Fail of a post... Lakers will make the playoffs they are only 3 games back they can and will easily get in the playoffs

Mr_Jones
01-16-2013, 01:53 AM
puppies

Mr_Jones
01-16-2013, 01:53 AM
puppies

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Mr_Jones
01-16-2013, 01:53 AM
hahah puppies dude!

shut up

JNoel
01-16-2013, 01:54 AM
I'd like to see Nash have a chance at a ring and I don't believe the Lakers currently provide the best chance for that. Lakers should be looking to retool for next year and I don't think Nash (39) needs to be part of the team for next year.

Last time I checked, we were only 36 games into the regular season...

justinnum1
01-16-2013, 01:55 AM
yep, but they will probably face the thunder, clippers or spurs in the first round.

Guppyfighter
01-16-2013, 01:56 AM
Last time I checked, we were only 36 games into the regular season...

Assuming the eight seed has 44 wins than the Lakers need to finish with a record that is 27-9. That is a .750 winning percentage.

jchase3
01-16-2013, 01:58 AM
close this garbage lol

Guppyfighter
01-16-2013, 01:59 AM
I am not understanding the flak I am getting. I think the Lakers are better of retooling this year and I think Nash should be on a lock of a playoff team with even a boxers chance of a title.

Max.This
01-16-2013, 02:29 AM
I am not understanding the flak I am getting. I think the Lakers are better of retooling this year and I think Nash should be on a lock of a playoff team with even a boxers chance of a title.

You're right but ppl won't admit it. They like to think of stupid things to say such as " oh there's still this many games or " we're not taking it seriously" all to subconsciously mask the reality of the situation . As far as your statistic of the likelihood of an 8th seed ending with 44 wins its very real that the lakers potentially won't make it. Nash shouldn't be traded because he went to LA to stay close to his kids, it wouldn't do him justice to trade. His contract is also atrocious , so likely untradeable

sep11ie
01-16-2013, 02:29 AM
Collectively we think that you need to stop thinking, and if you continue to think in the future I think you should think twice about sharing the thoughts of which you thought of on PSD.

Guppyfighter
01-16-2013, 02:32 AM
Collectively we think that you need to stop thinking, and if you continue to think in the future I think you should think twice about sharing the thoughts of which you thought of on PSD.

I don't see what is wrong with my post other than the unlikeliness he is to be traded. His contract makes him very hard to move and there are a few teams that he actually fits. I understand that, but I also want him on a contending or even a pseudo contending team. It's more I want to see Nash make it to the playoffs and have a chance at advancing.

sep11ie
01-16-2013, 02:37 AM
So you want to see Nash go to a contender? The same dude that said he hated the Lakers, jumped ship to join them in another attempted super team, now it isn't working out(BEFORE THE ALLSTAR FAME) and you think he deserves to go to a contender? MMMMMKKKKKKAAAAYYYY

Guppyfighter
01-16-2013, 02:38 AM
So you want to see Nash go to a contender? The same dude that said he hated the Lakers, jumped ship to join them in another attempted super team, now it isn't working out(BEFORE THE ALLSTAR FAME) and you think he deserves to go to a contender? MMMMMKKKKKKAAAAYYYY

Yes, that Nash. Very likeable dude.

Ashby
01-16-2013, 02:39 AM
I think you meant 27-19.....which is a .586 winning percentage for the remainder of the season. Very doable.


Assuming the eight seed has 44 wins than the Lakers need to finish with a record that is 27-9. That is a .750 winning percentage.

Guppyfighter
01-16-2013, 02:43 AM
I think you meant 27-19.....which is a .586 winning percentage for the remainder of the season. Very doable.

lol My bad. That was working under the assumption there was only 36 games left, admittedly, I don't know why I thought that many left.

Still, an eight seed probably won't win the title as they will have to go on the road vs the stacked Western Conference.

Sactown
01-16-2013, 02:46 AM
lol My bad. That was working under the assumption there was only 36 games left, admittedly, I don't know why I thought that many left.

Still, an eight seed probably won't win the title as they will have to go on the road vs the stacked Western Conference.

It would be 27-15. You are right, that's entirely doable.
I wouldn't look at it that way, I'd look at it like this... they're 3 games back and the competition to get there isn't great... Portland and Houston currently hold the 7th and 8th spots, and I see Minni starting to slip as Love is out for 8-10 weeks..

Ashby
01-16-2013, 02:48 AM
Yeah I figured. The Lakers are 17-21 right now. To end the season with 44 wins, they'll need to go 27-17 for the remainder of the season.

It'll take some work, but I feel it's very possible for this group of guys. But then again, they can also easily go on a losing streak as well.


lol My bad. That was working under the assumption there was only 36 games left, admittedly, I don't know why I thought that many left.

Still, an eight seed probably won't win the title as they will have to go on the road vs the stacked Western Conference.

Ashby
01-16-2013, 02:50 AM
That's how I've pretty much been looking at it. I don't think Portland will be very hard to catch up to.


I wouldn't look at it that way, I'd look at it like this... they're 3 games back and the competition to get there isn't great... Portland and Houston currently hold the 7th and 8th spots, and I see Minni starting to slip as Love is out for 8-10 weeks..

ThaDubs
01-16-2013, 02:52 AM
Fail of a post... Lakers will make the playoffs they are only 3 games back they can and will easily get in the playoffs

Good luck with finishing the season with an "easy" over .550 record.

Guppyfighter
01-16-2013, 02:55 AM
Good luck with finishing the season with an "easy" over .700 record.

I had the wrong amount of games, so that percentage is off, but it's definitely not easy like the guy implied.

jchase3
01-16-2013, 02:58 AM
Collectively we think that you need to stop thinking, and if you continue to think in the future I think you should think twice about sharing the thoughts of which you thought of on PSD.

:clap:

drew_ellis_23
01-16-2013, 03:16 AM
Lakers chance of making the playoffs are staggeringly low and they are too far behind to even consider getting a sixth seed. Nash went to the Lakers at another attempt for a ring. Seeing as that likely won't happen at this point I believe the Lakers should be trying to move Nash to a team that is a buyer right now. I haven't looked at contracts, but I believe the teams that could use him are The Grizzlies (off the bench), the Pacers (Off the bench), and the Heat (starting over Chalmers), and the Jazz (starting.)

Looking at Nash's contract I think the Grizzlies and the Heat probably can't get him. However, the Pacers could move DJ and a filler to make the contract work and they vastly upgrade their back up PG position as well as improving their biggest weakness, the offense.

Since Mo Williams out the Jazz could use a starting PG to improve the team's chances of making the playoffs or even possibly getting an upset. They also have some moveable pieces that may seem attractive to the Lakers.

Thoughts?

I hate the Lakers, but dude they are going to get hot. I have a feeling. Kobe still has enough left. Howard and Gasol will get right and these guys will be deep into the post season.

drew_ellis_23
01-16-2013, 03:20 AM
collectively we think that you need to stop thinking, and if you continue to think in the future i think you should think twice about sharing the thoughts of which you thought of on psd.

:)

static_inferno
01-16-2013, 03:47 AM
Nash is exactly what the Lakers need right now. They'd be foolish to trade him away. We shall seen on Thursday if the Lakers are legit, but I like what I'm seeing so far. The last two games they've been concentrating on DEFENSE, and they let the offense come to them. If Kobe continues to assert himself defensively, and with Dwight getting to 100%, the Lakers have a legit darkhorse shot at the title.

Having said that there are still problems with the team. I like the starting five with Clark because he moves the ball well on offense, and he's quick on his feet; overall, he's a young, athletic forward that the Lakers sorely needed. I believe when Pau gets back it will still be a learning process getting him integrating into the offense, and the big question remains will they trade Pau or not. Personally I can go either way. If Pau can't get it going by trade deadline they should send him out and bolster the bench, which is still the Lakers' biggest issue right now since the bench is so inconsistent. It seems with Pau gone Dwight has more room to operate, but we'll see if the two can get on the same page.

Swift Game
01-16-2013, 04:15 AM
yep, but they will probably face the thunder, clippers or spurs in the first round.

I think the Lakers can beat the Spurs in the 1st round...Clippers is really questionable...

Thunder is something I would not want to see until Round 2 or 3 if they even get that far.

I have a thread I started in the Lakers Forum about Dwight getting 15+ shots a game...people seemed to think he did not and needed to concentrate on Defense only....Last two games support my theory...I think he was like 14-18 tonight with 31 points...and 9-11 against Cleveland..If they can start trending this and kobe staying under 20 shots they WILL be a different team..Lets see what happens against Miami. If he can place similar #'s against the Heat they need to roll with this formula.:clap:

TheMoneyTeam
01-16-2013, 04:21 AM
Drunk posting.

KingPosey
01-16-2013, 04:21 AM
It's going to be really hard for the Lakers Brass to admit defeat And waive the white flag after everything. I still think if they can put together one big win streak they can at least keep it interesting. That team has enough talent to rattle off 9 of 10 and just get close

Clippersfan86
01-16-2013, 04:32 AM
I think you meant 27-19.....which is a .586 winning percentage for the remainder of the season. Very doable.

I don't think you guys realize the average win total the last decade in the west is 47 or 48 wins for the 8 seed and the west is more stacked than last year and the year before right now in which teams had to win 48 and 49 to get in. So basically the Lakers need to go more like 32-19 or so the rest of the way which will be difficult.

sventhedog
01-16-2013, 04:41 AM
they would try to play this season as if they have a chance until the end of the season. since they have aging players who don't have much time.

you have to consider that a lot of things can happen in a season such as injuries or trades which would somehow change the scenario.

another thing to consider is that they've decided to stick with d'antoni whose system relies mainly on pg's playmaking so unless they get a quality playmaking pg in return, they would not do it. so basically, nash is sort of tied to the coach, who signed a three year deal. therefore, it's safe to say that they'd trade other pieces such as gasol.

Bruno
01-16-2013, 05:05 AM
Lakers will make the playoffs. at the end of the season people will look back at this frenzy and laugh.

ILLUSIONIST^248
01-16-2013, 05:05 AM
Lakers chance of making the playoffs are staggeringly low and they are too far behind to even consider getting a sixth seed. Nash went to the Lakers at another attempt for a ring. Seeing as that likely won't happen at this point I believe the Lakers should be trying to move Nash to a team that is a buyer right now. I haven't looked at contracts, but I believe the teams that could use him are The Grizzlies (off the bench), the Pacers (Off the bench), and the Heat (starting over Chalmers), and the Jazz (starting.)

Looking at Nash's contract I think the Grizzlies and the Heat probably can't get him. However, the Pacers could move DJ and a filler to make the contract work and they vastly upgrade their back up PG position as well as improving their biggest weakness, the offense.

Since Mo Williams out the Jazz could use a starting PG to improve the team's chances of making the playoffs or even possibly getting an upset. They also have some moveable pieces that may seem attractive to the Lakers.

Thoughts?

:laugh2: lakers will make the playoffs. I will bet you my account on it . If laker don't make the playoffs I will delete my account . If the lakers do make the playoffs you delete your account deal?

el hidalgo
01-16-2013, 05:09 AM
:laugh2: lakers will make the playoffs. I will bet you my account on it . If laker don't make the playoffs I will delete my account . If the lakers do make the playoffs you delete your account deal?
ill bet you my account on it. deal?

TornadoOfSouls
01-16-2013, 05:12 AM
I think the Lakers can beat the Spurs in the 1st round...Clippers is really questionable...

Great logic, seeing as they're 0-2 against them this season. In fact, Lakers haven't won a single game against the Thunder, Ckippers, Spurs, Grizzlies this season

Iron24th
01-16-2013, 05:30 AM
Fail of a post... Lakers will make the playoffs they are only 3 games back they can and will easily get in the playoffs

Easily is not the word.

Ebbs
01-16-2013, 07:23 AM
Nash is gonna go back up George Hill, or Mike Conley?

mal22
01-16-2013, 07:59 AM
Now that hill is out fornthe season, I think trading Pau is out

dodie53
01-16-2013, 10:04 AM
end of the world. hehe

king4day
01-16-2013, 10:14 AM
Nash to Memphis is an intersting idea. Assuming Gay would be going back, maybe move Conley to the SG. 0 chance that any team taking Nash would have him come off the bench. With his back issues, it would be a mistake to constantly have him come off the bench cold.

JasonJohnHorn
01-16-2013, 10:16 AM
Will the Lakers make the playoffs? There are currently 9 teams with better records in the West, and another 2 or 3 teams with records similar to the Lakers. They are going to have to play well. Should the Lakers trade Nash to a contender? They just gave up (I think) 3 first round draft picks for this guy. I think the logical thing to do is hold onto him until the end of the season, and if Dwight takes off in free agency, then trade Nash and see what you can get.

Avenged
01-16-2013, 12:07 PM
The Lakers have and are being discussed to death here. Try using the Lakers forum for questions like these to stop all the clutter in the main forum.