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Alayla
01-13-2013, 08:02 AM
greivis vasquez Comes to mind Right away
Jrue Holiday (homer pick but i really truly believe he is.
Jarret Jack
Jeff Teague

These are guys to me who are just a bit overlooked

SugeKnight
01-13-2013, 08:04 AM
Good Thread

Duncan = Donkey
01-13-2013, 08:17 AM
Good Thread

who does he play for?

JayW_1023
01-13-2013, 08:25 AM
JRue is an All-star this year, but there is an abundance of great PGs in this league.

strahan92osi72
01-13-2013, 08:27 AM
Felton
Sessions
Holiday
Dragic

Ezio
01-13-2013, 09:03 AM
I wanna say TP and Curry.

Alayla
01-13-2013, 10:10 AM
I wanna say TP and Curry.

Tony Parker is one of those under or over depending on who you talk to kind of players. and Ive allways Pictured Curry as more of a natural 2.

Alayla
01-13-2013, 10:10 AM
JRue is an All-star this year, but there is an abundance of great PGs in this league.

Oh no doubt i just wish he got alitlle more love.

Alayla
01-13-2013, 10:11 AM
Felton
Sessions
Holiday
Dragic

Very much so

FreakaNashur
01-13-2013, 10:16 AM
chalmers.

detzfish
01-13-2013, 10:24 AM
I think the most overlooked pg in the league is Eric Bledsoe. Rightfully so because he's behind Chris Paul but the guy is a monster and IMO would be a real good starter if given the chance. Would love him in Detroit.
Jrue is an easy choice for this tho, never talked about and putting up real good numbers

the unknown
01-13-2013, 10:33 AM
I always wonder when bledsoe is gonna get his own team to run like collison did

BALLER R
01-13-2013, 10:33 AM
no one mentioned Calderon yet. He's one the most underrated PG's in the game.

Killerjug
01-13-2013, 10:40 AM
Vasquez is doing very well this year so far

IndyRealist
01-13-2013, 11:36 AM
Jose Calderon - Toronto's been trying to replace him for most of a decade, and he's one of the best pure PG's in the NBA. Steve Nash-lite.

Grevis Vasquez - Somewhat inconsistent, but shaping up to be a good starting PG. Not bad for being traded away and nearly cut.

Jarret Jack - "Jack of all trades" combo that can score, defend, and pass. No real weakness to his game.

Ramon Sessions - Perpetually misused, Sessions is a fantastic PnR PG who's been asked to shoot 3's for the last two years. He was great in Milwaukee and Cleveland, where he only took shots inside the arc.

Mike Conley - Sometimes listed as the 4th best player on the Grizz, Conley is probably the most important aside from Randolph. Top tier defender, always among the league leader in steals, he's overlooked because he doesn't score 20ppg.

George Hill - He's still more of a combo than a PG, but he's learning the point in Indiana and playing much better than he ever did in San Antonio. He's still a step slow to defend super fast guards, but won't get backed down by big guards and can switch on SG's when necessary.

Sly Guy
01-13-2013, 11:37 AM
no one mentioned Calderon yet. He's one the most underrated PG's in the game.

yep.

ThaDubs
01-13-2013, 08:27 PM
Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Derrick Rose, yknow.

LJEATON26
01-13-2013, 08:46 PM
Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Derrick Rose, yknow.

I actually agree with Westbrook, top 10 in points and assists and still catches **** that he can't play PG. Toronto brought in Lowery to replace Calderon which is crazy cause that guy can freakin ball

HowFit
01-13-2013, 09:08 PM
Calderon, J Jack, Sessions, Teague, Vasquez and Westbrook...

selassi3
01-13-2013, 09:08 PM
This is where ignorance can be a factor. Easily Jose Calderon. Numbers don't lie...

07-08 11.2PPG, 8.3 Assist, FT 90.8%, 1.54 Turnover
08-09 12.8PPG, 8.9 Assist, FT 98.1%, 2.10 Turnover
09-10 10.3PPG, 5.9 Assist, FT 79.8%, 1.46 Turnover
10-11 9.8PPG, 8.9 Assist, FT 85.4%, 2.18 Turnover
11-12 10.5PPG, 8.9 Assist, FT 88.9%, 1.96 Turnover
12-13 10.3PPG, 7.8 Assist, FT 88.9%, 1.72 Turnover

Also, Ty Lawson Damian Lilliard, Vasquez, Raymond Felton, Jeff Teague

CityofChaos
01-13-2013, 09:21 PM
If you asked this last season I would have said Ty Lawson.

This year Jarret Jack and Vasquez have impressed me alot.

ellington19
01-13-2013, 09:30 PM
Starters - Holliday, Vasquez

Back ups - Maynor, Sessions, Bledsoe, Jack

douglas
01-13-2013, 09:36 PM
I think Andre Miller is still decent.

D-Leethal
01-13-2013, 09:51 PM
Ridnour is pretty underrated.

LJEATON26
01-13-2013, 11:27 PM
Starters - Holliday, Vasquez

Back ups - Maynor, Sessions, Bledsoe, Jack

I would have agreed with Maynor before he hurt his knee. He isn't that same player anymore.

Alayla
01-13-2013, 11:39 PM
I think the most overlooked pg in the league is Eric Bledsoe. Rightfully so because he's behind Chris Paul but the guy is a monster and IMO would be a real good starter if given the chance. Would love him in Detroit.
Jrue is an easy choice for this tho, never talked about and putting up real good numbers

Bledose is a nice one im actually shocked i left him out of my post

Alayla
01-13-2013, 11:41 PM
I actually agree with Westbrook, top 10 in points and assists and still catches **** that he can't play PG. Toronto brought in Lowery to replace Calderon which is crazy cause that guy can freakin ball

Westbrook too he is a top 3 PG and Personally id take him over rose but im well aware that the majority will never argee with me there so ive givin up on discussing it

Alayla
01-13-2013, 11:43 PM
Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Derrick Rose, yknow.

I can tell your Joking but the fact is Chris Paul IS underrated..There are far to many people who believe he is anything less than the best PG in the game today

KniCks4LiFe
01-13-2013, 11:57 PM
Andre Miller
Gervais Vasquez
Ramon Sessions
Jarret Jack
Stephon Curry

b@llhog24
01-13-2013, 11:58 PM
Apparently every pg is underrated.

CB29
01-14-2013, 12:09 AM
Brandon Jennings. He has a bad rep but the guy puts up solid stats and does a lot of things well. He's my most underrated pg in the NBA.

Hellcrooner
01-14-2013, 12:15 AM
Jrue.
Calderon.
Chalmers.
Hill.
Beaubois.
Parker ( as in none really think of him as high as they should).
Conley.
Ridnour.

KniCks4LiFe
01-14-2013, 12:16 AM
Chalmers is underrated? really homie?

Victimize
01-14-2013, 12:18 AM
Stephen Curry
Eric Bledsoe
Jrue Holliday
Tony Parker

KniCks4LiFe
01-14-2013, 12:20 AM
Stephen Curry is at the top of that list. He should be #1 underrated seeing how no one talks about him w/ the season he's having.

Alayla
01-14-2013, 12:27 AM
Stephen Curry is at the top of that list. He should be #1 underrated seeing how no one talks about him w/ the season he's having.

plenty of people talk about him

Alayla
01-14-2013, 12:29 AM
Curry is alittle better than Jrue but people think of it like the 2 are not even in the same Class it eriks me so much there right in the same Tier.

heattiltheend94
01-14-2013, 12:31 AM
kyle lowry is most underrated player in the league

Alayla
01-14-2013, 12:39 AM
kyle lowry is most underrated player in the league

??? hes seen as a conscious top 10 PG?!!!

TheSource
01-14-2013, 12:47 AM
Ty Lawson

ThaDubs
01-14-2013, 12:47 AM
Brandon Jennings. He has a bad rep but the guy puts up solid stats and does a lot of things well. He's my most underrated pg in the NBA.

Yeah but his FG% is ****.

ThaDubs
01-14-2013, 12:51 AM
plenty of people talk about him

He's slightly underrated. For one, he deserves to be an all-star imo. Secondly, he's 2nd in career 3P% in NBA history only to Steve Curr by .001 and might be tied for #1 soon with all his ridiculous shooting nights like tonight with 7/9.

black1605
01-14-2013, 12:52 AM
Has Kemba Walker really not been mentioned, or did I miss him?

17.6 points
3.4 rebounds
5.8 assists
1.9 steals

Beltrans Mole
01-14-2013, 12:54 AM
There's a lot of underrated PGs in the league right now. I think Jrue is a stud and I'm a Knicks fan.

Gritz
01-14-2013, 01:03 AM
Smush Parker, bro looked like Jordan when I seen him playing at LA Fitness a couple years ago

MrfadeawayJB
01-14-2013, 01:05 AM
Jose Calderon - Toronto's been trying to replace him for most of a decade, and he's one of the best pure PG's in the NBA. Steve Nash-lite.

Grevis Vasquez - Somewhat inconsistent, but shaping up to be a good starting PG. Not bad for being traded away and nearly cut.

Jarret Jack - "Jack of all trades" combo that can score, defend, and pass. No real weakness to his game.

Ramon Sessions - Perpetually misused, Sessions is a fantastic PnR PG who's been asked to shoot 3's for the last two years. He was great in Milwaukee and Cleveland, where he only took shots inside the arc.

Mike Conley - Sometimes listed as the 4th best player on the Grizz, Conley is probably the most important aside from Randolph. Top tier defender, always among the league leader in steals, he's overlooked because he doesn't score 20ppg.

George Hill - He's still more of a combo than a PG, but he's learning the point in Indiana and playing much better than he ever did in San Antonio. He's still a step slow to defend super fast guards, but won't get backed down by big guards and can switch on SG's when necessary.


this list pretty much sums it up.


I would put holiday on there but i dont think he is underated anymore. He is allstar this year

ThaDubs
01-14-2013, 01:06 AM
Has Kemba Walker really not been mentioned, or did I miss him?

17.6 points
3.4 rebounds
5.8 assists
1.9 steals

But his FG% is like 2.

Alayla
01-14-2013, 01:19 AM
He's slightly underrated. For one, he deserves to be an all-star imo. Secondly, he's 2nd in career 3P% in NBA history only to Steve Curr by .001 and might be tied for #1 soon with all his ridiculous shooting nights like tonight with 7/9.

oh i know dont get me wrong he is scary good but you made it sound like people dont know who he is XD you can walk up to any Casual Fan who even just loosely follows basketball and the name stephin curry is one most will recognize where as Jrue Holiday is likely to sound foreign i think our disagreement just comes from us both being a bit to invested in our own teams XD

ThaDubs
01-14-2013, 01:27 AM
oh i know dont get me wrong he is scary good but you made it sound like people dont know who he is XD you can walk up to any Casual Fan who even just loosely follows basketball and the name stephin curry is one most will recognize where as Jrue Holiday is likely to sound foreign i think our disagreement just comes from us both being a bit to invested in our own teams XD

Haha yeah I know but you're right about JH. I think he deserve a bit more recognition than he's getting and he's honestly a bit more complete a player than Steph and the kid is only 22. Jrue is def one of my favorite young guards and now that you reminded me of the 76ers I'd put Evan Turner on this list too.

DTownSkitzo
01-14-2013, 04:16 AM
Will Bynum. It is a homer pick but oh well.

flgatorsandjags
01-14-2013, 04:25 AM
Jameer Nelson

sharqstealth
01-14-2013, 05:11 AM
Vasquez, Lowry, Jack, Sessions, George Hill, Barea, and my man Prigioni

monty77
01-14-2013, 07:07 AM
Since Jose Calderon arrived to the NBA he has averaged about 8 assist and 10 points. These rate are good enough to consider him a top 10-15 PG in the league, because he has gotten it during 7 years in a bad team as Toronto is.

Besides, he has reached good percentages: about 50% FG, 40% 3PT and 90% FT. I don't think that anyone in the league has as good percentages if we mix the three categories.

We must consider that he is a good defender, a great leader, and make play better to her teammates. So, although he maybe won't reach the all star status, it's strange that he has never been mentioned as possible all star player any year.

He will be free agent next summer, and he will have his first chance to choose team since he is a NBA player. Maybe if he play for a contender he finally get recognition.

HowFit
01-14-2013, 09:02 AM
I forgot about Bledsoe...

HowFit
01-14-2013, 09:03 AM
Apparently every pg is underrated.

No, but close tho...

black1605
01-14-2013, 09:11 AM
But his FG% is like 2.

It's better than a lot of the names in this thread, and only .007 less than the gentleman in your sig.

R. Johnson#3
01-14-2013, 09:18 AM
This is where ignorance can be a factor. Easily Jose Calderon. Numbers don't lie...

07-08 11.2PPG, 8.3 Assist, FT 90.8%, 1.54 Turnover
08-09 12.8PPG, 8.9 Assist, FT 98.1%, 2.10 Turnover
09-10 10.3PPG, 5.9 Assist, FT 79.8%, 1.46 Turnover
10-11 9.8PPG, 8.9 Assist, FT 85.4%, 2.18 Turnover
11-12 10.5PPG, 8.9 Assist, FT 88.9%, 1.96 Turnover
12-13 10.3PPG, 7.8 Assist, FT 88.9%, 1.72 Turnover

Also, Ty Lawson Damian Lilliard, Vasquez, Raymond Felton, Jeff Teague

The reason why Calderon doesn't get much love is because of the thing you didn't cover here. Defence. He can't play it at all. If Calderon had any sort of defensive mindset he'd be considered a top 10 PG in the league.

If he gets a step on most defenders he will finish at the rim and he has a good jumper. It's just painful watching him play D though.

R. Johnson#3
01-14-2013, 09:20 AM
Since Jose Calderon arrived to the NBA he has averaged about 8 assist and 10 points. These rate are good enough to consider him a top 10-15 PG in the league, because he has gotten it during 7 years in a bad team as Toronto is.

Besides, he has reached good percentages: about 50% FG, 40% 3PT and 90% FT. I don't think that anyone in the league has as good percentages if we mix the three categories.

We must consider that he is a good defender, a great leader, and make play better to her teammates. So, although he maybe won't reach the all star status, it's strange that he has never been mentioned as possible all star player any year.

He will be free agent next summer, and he will have his first chance to choose team since he is a NBA player. Maybe if he play for a contender he finally get recognition.

You obviously don't watch him play.

R. Johnson#3
01-14-2013, 09:21 AM
My pick would be Jarret Jack. I knew who he was before he came to Toronto but didn't know too much about him. The guy does some great things that don't come up on the stat sheet.

SeoulBeatz
01-14-2013, 09:34 AM
Tony Parker, Curry, Holiday, and Calderon come to mind.

Especially Parker, the guy is an elite PG plain and simple.

blahblahyoutoo
01-14-2013, 03:45 PM
Felton
Sessions
Holiday
Dragic

lmao, 2 weeks ago, every knick fan wanted him out of town, and lin to come back.
which is it?

blahblahyoutoo
01-14-2013, 03:48 PM
this thread should be renamed as "who is the pg that starts for your team?"

True Sports Fan
01-14-2013, 04:23 PM
Jose Calderon, Isaiah Thomas, Jarrett Jack