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HouRealCoach
01-12-2013, 07:25 PM
Tim Duncan in 2003.. 23.3 ppg, 12.9 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.9 bpg, 51% FG, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoffs Avg: 25, 15, 5, 3), led league in WS, Tied for best Team Record, Selected for both ALL-NBA First & ALL-Defensive First

Larry Bird in 1984.. 24.2 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 6.6 apg, 1.8 spg, 49% FG, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoff Avg: 27, 11, 6), FT% leader, Best Team Record in the league, Selected for All-NBA First Team & All-Defensive 2nd team (You could also put Bird in 86)

Magic Johnson in 1987.. 23.9 ppg, 12.2 apg (first), 6.3 rpg, 1.7 spg, 52% FG, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoff Avg: 22, 12, 8), OWS leader, Best Team Record, Selected All-NBA First Team

Shaq in 2000.. 29.7 ppg (first), 13.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.0 bpg, 57% FG (first), led league in PER, OWS, DWS, & WS, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoff Avg: 30, 15, 3, 2.5, 56% FG), Selected All-NBA First & All-Defensive 2nd, Best Team Record, 2 POM's

LeBron in 2012.. 27.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 6.2 apg, 1.9 spg, 53% FG, led league in PER & WS, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoff Avg: 30, 10, 5, 50% FG), Selected All-NBA & All-Defensive First Team, (Also won a Gold Medal)

Michael Jordan had quite a few so there's no need to list ALL of his since we know it's a bunch lol

Can anyone think of anymore though? I'm basically listing seasons where a player made it all about them and dominated the entire way through from the start to the very finish(Win both MVP's, lead league in categories, Championship, Become a Top Seed, etc.).. Maybe Hakeem Olajuwon, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul Jabbar?

You can also list a few potentials too.

JNoel
01-12-2013, 07:33 PM
Wade was pretty incredible for the 2009 season. Also Kobe, averaged 35 PPG one season.

b@llhog24
01-12-2013, 07:36 PM
Moses Malone.

HouRealCoach
01-12-2013, 07:36 PM
^^^You didn't read the post did you?

EDIT: @JNoel

shep33
01-12-2013, 07:45 PM
Edit: Ah sorry, missed the last part of you argument.

JerseyPalahniuk
01-12-2013, 07:47 PM
Wade was pretty incredible for the 2009 season. Also Kobe, averaged 35 PPG one season.

Did he dominate any other categories, or get far in the playoffs though? I'm assuming that's what the OP refers too. His actual MVP season would've been more accurate.

If you count that, then Garnett's 2003 MVP year was ridiculous.

conway429
01-12-2013, 07:49 PM
Willis Reed


In the 1969–70 season, the Knicks won a franchise record 60 games and set a then single-season NBA record with an 18 game win streak. In 1970, Reed became the first player in NBA history to be named the NBA All-Star Game MVP, the NBA regular season MVP, and the NBA Finals MVP in the same season. That same year, he was named to the All-NBA first team and NBA All-Defensive first team, as well as being named as ABC's Wide World of Sports Athlete of the Year, and the Sporting News NBA MVP.

Reed's most famous performance took place on May 8, 1970, during Game 7 of the 1970 NBA Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers in Madison Square Garden. Due to a severe thigh injury, a torn muscle that had previously kept him out of Game 6, he was considered unlikely to play in Game 7. Yet Reed surprised the fans by walking onto the court during warmups, prompting widespread applause. Starting the game, he scored the Knicks' first two field goals on his first two shot attempts, his only points of the game.[1] Walt "Clyde" Frazier went on to score 36 points with 18 assists as the Knicks won 113–99, giving New York City its first NBA title. The moment Reed walked onto the court was voted the greatest moment in the history of Madison Square Garden.

Solid season.

JNoel
01-12-2013, 07:51 PM
Whoops, I missed the entire season (including playoffs) part. Interesting topic.

HouRealCoach
01-12-2013, 07:52 PM
^^^Never knew that... That is amazing

Rivera
01-12-2013, 07:53 PM
KG the year that he single handedly brought the twolves to the WCF when the whole twolves team was hurt. Think it was the year that it was the GP/kobe/malone/shaq lakers that lost to the pistons

He won all the awards that year and was probably some of the best basketball ive seen someone play

HouRealCoach
01-12-2013, 07:59 PM
KG the year that he single handedly brought the twolves to the WCF when the whole twolves team was hurt. Think it was the year that it was the GP/kobe/malone/shaq lakers that lost to the pistons

He won all the awards that year and was probably some of the best basketball ive seen someone play

I had him and a few others as potentials because he didn't get a ring that year but it really sucks that Cassell got injured against the Lakers that year. But he pretty much did dominate that season until the WCF

rockbottom2010
01-12-2013, 08:26 PM
wat about kareem abdul jabbar or wilt chamberlain.....

jerellh528
01-12-2013, 08:33 PM
i forgot how good KG was

JNoel
01-12-2013, 08:39 PM
^^^Never knew that... That is amazing

I knew that I would get someone's attention about it ;)

HouRealCoach
01-12-2013, 08:49 PM
I knew that I would get someone's attention about it ;)

Naw my fault lol... I was replying to conway429, u just posted a second earlier than me

Rivera
01-12-2013, 08:49 PM
I had him and a few others as potentials because he didn't get a ring that year but it really sucks that Cassell got injured against the Lakers that year. But he pretty much did dominate that season until the WCF

This is one of the few instances where kg not getting a ring was okay because of the mass amount of injuries the twolves had. Kg was making Troy Hudson look like Steve Kerr before he got hurt in that series. Him playing pg for game 7 was just crazy to see he gave everything he was gassed at the end of that game and still almost beat the lakers by him self

HouRealCoach
01-12-2013, 09:02 PM
This is one of the few instances where kg not getting a ring was okay because of the mass amount of injuries the twolves had. Kg was making Troy Hudson look like Steve Kerr before he got hurt in that series. Him playing pg for game 7 was just crazy to see he gave everything he was gassed at the end of that game and still almost beat the lakers by him self

I understand where your'e coming from & I agree but in the long run no one remembers that... There are many players that "could have" won if it weren't for injuries

Mochalman
01-12-2013, 09:19 PM
Could say LeBron last year and throw in winning Olympic gold.

Chronz
01-12-2013, 10:30 PM
This is one of the few instances where kg not getting a ring was okay because of the mass amount of injuries the twolves had. Kg was making Troy Hudson look like Steve Kerr before he got hurt in that series. Him playing pg for game 7 was just crazy to see he gave everything he was gassed at the end of that game and still almost beat the lakers by him self

I understand where your'e coming from & I agree but in the long run no one remembers that... There are many players that "could have" won if it weren't for injuries
Yeah but why should the common nba fans opinion hold more weight than the aficionados? True NBA fans remember much more detail than the final winning team.

HouRealCoach
01-12-2013, 11:00 PM
Yeah but why should the common nba fans opinion hold more weight than the aficionados? True NBA fans remember much more detail than the final winning team.

True but I think he dominated from the beginning until the WCF... Who's to say he would have beaten the Pistons, One of the greatest teams of our time & one of the greatest defensive teams also. Can't just give it to him

Chronz
01-12-2013, 11:03 PM
True but I think he dominated from the beginning until the WCF... Who's to say he would have beaten the Pistons, One of the greatest teams of our time & one of the greatest defensive teams also. Can't just give it to him

Yea it really doesnt stack up to some of the best without a ring at least he was without a doubt the best player that year and his season as a whole was a giant success IMO.

HouRealCoach
01-13-2013, 12:19 AM
yea it really doesnt stack up to some of the best without a ring at least he was without a doubt the best player that year and his season as a whole was a giant success imo.

+1

Alayla
01-13-2013, 01:02 AM
Tim Duncan in 2003.. 23.3 ppg, 12.9 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.9 bpg, 51% FG, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoffs Avg: 25, 15, 5, 3), led league in WS, Tied for best Team Record, Selected for both ALL-NBA First & ALL-Defensive First

Larry Bird in 1984.. 24.2 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 6.6 apg, 1.8 spg, 49% FG, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoff Avg: 27, 11, 6), FT% leader, Best Team Record in the league, Selected for All-NBA First Team & All-Defensive 2nd team (You could also put Bird in 86)

Magic Johnson in 1987.. 23.9 ppg, 12.2 apg (first), 6.3 rpg, 1.7 spg, 52% FG, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoff Avg: 22, 12, 8), OWS leader, Best Team Record, Selected All-NBA First Team

Shaq in 2000.. 29.7 ppg (first), 13.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.0 bpg, 57% FG (first), led league in PER, OWS, DWS, & WS, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoff Avg: 30, 15, 3, 2.5, 56% FG), Selected All-NBA First & All-Defensive 2nd, Best Team Record, 2 POM's

LeBron in 2012.. 27.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 6.2 apg, 1.9 spg, 53% FG, led league in PER & WS, Season MVP, Finals MVP (Playoff Avg: 30, 10, 5, 50% FG), Selected All-NBA & All-Defensive First Team, (Also won a Gold Medal)

Michael Jordan had quite a few so there's no need to list ALL of his since we know it's a bunch lol

Can anyone think of anymore though? I'm basically listing seasons where a player made it all about them and dominated the entire way through from the start to the very finish(Win both MVP's, lead league in categories, Championship, Become a Top Seed, etc.).. Maybe Hakeem Olajuwon, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul Jabbar?

You can also list a few potentials too.

What about Wilts ppg 50 - RPG 25 season?
and on 50%+ FG also..
how do u leave that out

HouRealCoach
01-13-2013, 01:12 AM
What about Wilts ppg 50 - RPG 25 season?
and on 50%+ FG also..
how do u leave that out

What did the players I listed in those seasons all have in common that Wilt didn't in that particular season?

BULLSFAN0810
01-13-2013, 03:50 AM
How about this ... JOrdan 1988-1999

Hawkeye15
01-13-2013, 04:18 AM
KG the year that he single handedly brought the twolves to the WCF when the whole twolves team was hurt. Think it was the year that it was the GP/kobe/malone/shaq lakers that lost to the pistons

He won all the awards that year and was probably some of the best basketball ive seen someone play

yep. 03-04' KG was unreal.

Hawkeye15
01-13-2013, 04:19 AM
True but I think he dominated from the beginning until the WCF... Who's to say he would have beaten the Pistons, One of the greatest teams of our time & one of the greatest defensive teams also. Can't just give it to him

Wolves beat them both times they played that year....

They matched up perfectly. Methodical offenses, great defenses. Only the Wolves had the best player on the planet that year.

Hawkeye15
01-13-2013, 04:20 AM
What about Wilts ppg 50 - RPG 25 season?
and on 50%+ FG also..
how do u leave that out

while nobody should deny Wilt's greatness, the pace of the game, and no defense, along with his career mpg at 47+, need to be factored in when measuring his stats. I have done the calculations before, and if you applied those pace and mpg across the modern guys, it would make you puke at the numbers they put up.

HouRealCoach
01-13-2013, 12:35 PM
Wolves beat them both times they played that year....

They matched up perfectly. Methodical offenses, great defenses. Only the Wolves had the best player on the planet that year.

In 2011, Chicago beat Miami in the regular season 3-0 & Celtics beat Miami 3-1 but what happened in the playoffs... Plenty of times a team has been dismantled by a team in the regular season but it's a different story in the playoffs.

& the 08 & 09 Rockets both probably could have won something if it wasn't for injuries, 03 Mavs, 03 Kings, 09 Celtics, 10 Celtics, 08 Lakers... I believe he was easily the best player that year but I can't give it to him. He's one of my favorite players so don't make me argue against anymore lol

Chronz
01-13-2013, 12:47 PM
while nobody should deny Wilt's greatness, the pace of the game, and no defense, along with his career mpg at 47+, need to be factored in when measuring his stats.
Heavy minutes makes it more impressive and you got any proof of no defense?


I have done the calculations before, and if you applied those pace and mpg across the modern guys, it would make you puke at the numbers they put up.
Why would I puke?

iInsulin
01-13-2013, 01:11 PM
2000-01 Allen Iverson?
All Star Game MVP
Regular Season MVP
Best Record in Eastern Conference
Finals Appearance and only team to beat Lakers in playoffs. Scoring 48, 23, 35, 35, 37
Scoring Title: 31.1
Steals Title: 2.5

TornadoOfSouls
01-13-2013, 05:56 PM
This is one of the few instances where kg not getting a ring was okay because of the mass amount of injuries the twolves had. Kg was making Troy Hudson look like Steve Kerr before he got hurt in that series. Him playing pg for game 7 was just crazy to see he gave everything he was gassed at the end of that game and still almost beat the lakers by him self

Wolves didn't play a game 7 against the Lakers. They lost in six.

Andrew32
01-13-2013, 06:02 PM
What about 2006 Wade?

He arguably had the best regular season that year (although people don't give him credit for it) and he had by far the best playoff run that year.

He dominated from start to finish that year.

HouRealCoach
01-13-2013, 06:59 PM
What about 2006 Wade?

He arguably had the best regular season that year (although people don't give him credit for it) and he had by far the best playoff run that year.

He dominated from start to finish that year.

Key word... The players I listed during the particular seasons there were no arguments, You could argue a few people for 2006 also

el hidalgo
01-13-2013, 07:00 PM
ur tryin to tell me there wasnt one season where kobe dominated? LMAO GTFO thats crazytalk

HouRealCoach
01-13-2013, 07:04 PM
ur tryin to tell me there wasnt one season where kobe dominated? LMAO GTFO thats crazytalk

Your'e free to share what season he did...

AIRMAR72
01-13-2013, 07:52 PM
bron every yr since he been the league

Ill21
01-13-2013, 08:07 PM
Wow Shaq was crazy in 2000

BRADfromOZ
01-14-2013, 01:54 AM
Umm... Hakeem Olajuwon in 1993-94. 27.3 ppg, 11.9 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.6 spg, 3.7 bpg 52.8 FG%, 42.1 3p%, 71.6 FT%. MVP, Finals MVP, DPOY, All NBA First Team, All Defensive First Team

DreamShaker
01-14-2013, 03:29 AM
What did the players I listed in those seasons all have in common that Wilt didn't in that particular season?

You could put his 66-67 season up there. 24/24 with about 8 assists and 68% shooting. Won MVP and his first championship. They hadn't started finals MVP yet. That season stood out with a big assists spike and a big FG% spike. Both of those things indicate growth and maturity, especially for a guy labeled as a selfish player.

DreamShaker
01-14-2013, 03:32 AM
Umm... Hakeem Olajuwon in 1993-94. 27.3 ppg, 11.9 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.6 spg, 3.7 bpg 52.8 FG%, 42.1 3p%, 71.6 FT%. MVP, Finals MVP, DPOY, All NBA First Team, All Defensive First Team

Awesome season. My favorite ever. But that 3 point percentage is hilarious. He probably took five 3 point shots that year. Lol.

Hawkeye15
01-14-2013, 04:40 AM
Heavy minutes makes it more impressive and you got any proof of no defense?


Why would I puke?

do i need to prove it to you? The old days were a track meet in general, outside of outliers. And of course its impressive that someones body can hold up under those conditions, I am simply stating that they need to be put into perspective, and no, I don't think anyone could play those minutes in the last 25 years with the physicality allowed.

LongWayFromHome
01-14-2013, 10:55 AM
Kareem in 70-71, his second season.

Money_23
01-14-2013, 03:39 PM
ur tryin to tell me there wasnt one season where kobe dominated? LMAO GTFO thats crazytalk

dang, you are actually praising Kobe? :)

Chronz
01-14-2013, 03:41 PM
ur tryin to tell me there wasnt one season where kobe dominated? LMAO GTFO thats crazytalk

Which was his most dominant year in your opinion?

Money_23
01-14-2013, 03:43 PM
Wilt '67 season.
RS: 24-24-8 68%FG
PS: 22-29-9 58%FG

MVP
no finals MVP back then but he could have gotten it.
led WS, WS48, PER in both.

Chronz
01-14-2013, 03:49 PM
do i need to prove it to you? The old days were a track meet in general, outside of outliers.
Your not getting me, Im not asking for proof that the pace was high, Im asking for proof of this, "no defense"



And of course its impressive that someones body can hold up under those conditions, I am simply stating that they need to be put into perspective, and no, I don't think anyone could play those minutes in the last 25 years with the physicality allowed.

Agree to disagree on this one.

HouRealCoach
01-14-2013, 03:55 PM
You could put his 66-67 season up there. 24/24 with about 8 assists and 68% shooting. Won MVP and his first championship. They hadn't started finals MVP yet. That season stood out with a big assists spike and a big FG% spike. Both of those things indicate growth and maturity, especially for a guy labeled as a selfish player.

Wow... Never knew that, Thanks for letting me know because that is amazing. Btw I always thought he won his only championships behind Jerry West & Goodrich


Umm... Hakeem Olajuwon in 1993-94. 27.3 ppg, 11.9 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.6 spg, 3.7 bpg 52.8 FG%, 42.1 3p%, 71.6 FT%. MVP, Finals MVP, DPOY, All NBA First Team, All Defensive First Team

That guy there is unreal :worthy:


Which was his most dominant year in your opinion?

He read the original post & realized that Kobe has never had such a season

JayW_1023
01-14-2013, 03:55 PM
Wilt dominated every game he played in the sixties, pretty much.

Hawkeye15
01-14-2013, 05:32 PM
Your not getting me, Im not asking for proof that the pace was high, Im asking for proof of this, "no defense"

relative to the newer era's, they didn't play as good defensively. Though, I do think much of that is a philisophical shift in the coaching.



Agree to disagree on this one.

If anyone in history could do it, it's Wilt, but I don't think the banging and physical play of the 90's for instance would let anyone hold up over 82/47 mpg.

JordansBulls
01-14-2013, 06:23 PM
Any season where a player won league mvp and the title or league mvp and finals mvp and the title.

HouRealCoach
01-14-2013, 06:37 PM
Any season where a player won league mvp and the title or league mvp and finals mvp and the title.

Bingo & set themselves head & shoulders above everyone else for the entire year & led a few categories

Chronz
01-15-2013, 05:13 PM
relative to the newer era's, they didn't play as good defensively.
So you went from no defense to "as good" ?
That sounds like a trivial distinction so I wont care to argue it. Just sounds less important to bring up than pace.


Though, I do think much of that is a philisophical shift in the coaching.
All I feel is that young Wilt had it rough and if he played in the 80's/90's would have had it easier physically in spite of these "better defenses".


If anyone in history could do it, it's Wilt, but I don't think the banging and physical play of the 90's for instance would let anyone hold up over 82/47 mpg.
Well just so you know, Wilt would laugh at this so called physicality. I mean the guy is dead today because of how physical his days were, I truly believe that. I think coaching and the knowledge and respect we have for athletes bodies would suppress his minutes) but that would only help his longevity and performance so its not as if your hypotheticals detract from his accomplishments in any way.

Fired-Up
01-15-2013, 11:34 PM
Kobe Bryant did not have an otherworldly prime. He was consistent and really good. I thought I was the only one who felt like this. Glad to see a lot of people on this board have actually looked at his stats and performance objectively. Cuz I spent years having my friends talk up Kobe and it was hella annoying.