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Celtics33
01-11-2013, 10:53 PM
[QUOTE] Team executives involved in exploratory trade talks report that the Knicks (Amar'e Stoudemire), Lakers (Pau Gasol), Raptors (Bargnani) and Celtics (Paul Pierce) are open to discussing their high-profile names. In every case but one, the early indications are that none could be moved without a bad contract going back in return. (In Stoudemire's case, his health and the $45 million left on his contract after this season almost certainly will prevent any deal from happening.) The lone exception, executives say, may be Pierce, whose ruthless scoring prowess and championship experience come with another attractive feature: only $4 million of his $15.3 million salary is guaranteed next season. With the Celtics playing better since Avery Bradley returned from injury, president Danny Ainge once again finds himself trying to determine whether the remnants of the 2007-08 championship team have enough to make one more run. Some rival executives believe the Celtics recently waived Jarvis Varnado and Kris Joseph to create roster flexibility for a potential trade. If Ainge decides to stand pat, a deal involving Pierce -- which would mark the true end of the Big Three era -- could be re-examined around the draft or during free agency.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/21539972/postups-gay-trade-bait-as-grizzlies-maneuver-between-winning-taxes/rss

Raps08-09 Champ
01-11-2013, 10:55 PM
Bargnani for Pierce.
Gasol for Pierce.
Amar'e for Pierce.

sixer04fan
01-11-2013, 10:56 PM
Only $4M guaranteed next year? Damn. Contenders will be drooling for a piece of that

jsthornton7
01-11-2013, 11:09 PM
Bargnani for Pierce.
Gasol for Pierce.
Amar'e for Pierce.

Pierce lost his LA card. Send him to Toronto.

Lakerfrk
01-11-2013, 11:10 PM
Pierce for Gasol seems like the best deal ever for the Lakers.... get him for this year, AND he can come off the books next year if it doesn't work out!

penuch
01-11-2013, 11:12 PM
Can't see it happening. As long as they are in contention, there is no way Ainge makes that move. He will be slaughtered by Boston fans and the media. Especially with the way they have been playing of late.

Jarvo
01-11-2013, 11:32 PM
Paul to The Lakers. . . Nah son.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
01-11-2013, 11:34 PM
Will he get traded? Probably not but they'll trade him if they really like the offer.

shep33
01-11-2013, 11:36 PM
Kinda makes sense for the Lakers and Celts to do a Pierce + fillers for Pau deal. Celts get a legit big man to play alongside KG, Lakers get a SF, and can slide MWP to the PF spot or bring him off the bench and start Hill at the PF.

Highly doubt it happens though

B'sCeltsPatsSox
01-11-2013, 11:37 PM
Kinda makes sense for the Lakers and Celts to do a Pierce + fillers for Pau deal. Celts get a legit big man to play alongside KG, Lakers get a SF, and can slide MWP to the PF spot or bring him off the bench and start Hill at the PF.

Highly doubt it happens though

No way the Celtics would do that. Especially if they've got to give up more than just Paul.

Cal827
01-11-2013, 11:42 PM
Pierce lost his LA card. Send him to Toronto.

:laugh2: Bargnani for Pierce it is :dance:

Lucky Junior
01-11-2013, 11:50 PM
Kinda makes sense for the Lakers and Celts to do a Pierce + fillers for Pau deal. Celts get a legit big man to play alongside KG, Lakers get a SF, and can slide MWP to the PF spot or bring him off the bench and start Hill at the PF.

Highly doubt it happens though

Only way it makes sense is if we can incorporate the Raptors in the deal and get Bargnani.

Lakers get Pierce and Bargnani
Raptors get Sullinger, Melo, and World Peace
Celtics get Gasol

Really think that makes all 3 teams significantly better. And it makes sense financially. Don't sleep on what Pau will do when he's back on the low block playing next to Garnett. And Sullinger could be a star in Toronto.

ohreally
01-11-2013, 11:59 PM
Trading Pierce would be a sin at this point, and I don't think Garnett would like it at all either. Unless they've already talked over trades involving Garnett.

I don't see Pierce going anywhere anyway. If he were to be traded he would retire. But he deserves to retire as a Celtic.

I understand that if a good young center and a good young forward were available, Ainge might owe it to his job to make these moves, but that still doesn't mean it's right.

Celts right now are 4 games behind the Knicks, which ain't much. Play it out.

WHODAT8o8
01-12-2013, 12:01 AM
Only way it makes sense is if we can incorporate the Raptors in the deal and get Bargnani.

Lakers get Pierce and Bargnani
Raptors get Sullinger, Melo, and World Peace
Celtics get Gasol

Really think that makes all 3 teams significantly better. And it makes sense financially. Don't sleep on what Pau will do when he's back on the low block playing next to Garnett. And Sullinger could be a star in Toronto.

:facepalm: I would NEVER give up Pierce, Sullinger, and Melo just for Gasol....

Stunner
01-12-2013, 12:13 AM
This is solid all around http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bsrjonf

Cal827
01-12-2013, 12:19 AM
This is solid all around http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bsrjonf

:laugh: What?

Toronto is going to deal out Ross and Davis, two pieces that they are looking to hold onto for their future.... for 2 role players and A PF with recorded injury problems (has potential... but we already freaking have davis for that!)?

:facepalm::facepalm:

Nighthawk
01-12-2013, 12:25 AM
This is solid all around http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bsrjonf

As a Celtic fan id do that.

Rondo/Barbosa
Bradley/Terry
Green/Ross
KG/Bass/Davis
Pau/Wilcox

Stunner
01-12-2013, 12:26 AM
:laugh: What?

Toronto is going to deal out Ross and Davis, two pieces that they are looking to hold onto for their future.... for 2 role players and A PF with recorded injury problems (has potential... but we already freaking have davis for that!)?

:facepalm::facepalm:

That trade was for the guy who thinks Sully would be a star in Toronto and trying to make fair to the Celtics who clearly gave up the most in the Previous deal proposed . I was going to swap Johnson for Davis but then that would mean more salary would have been added and the C's are looking for bigs not trying to lose more. That's why I put in Davis. In the other deal Raptors were basically losing a player they don't want and are winning without .

Stunner
01-12-2013, 12:27 AM
I don't really care though I'm a bulls fans just trying to make a lopsided deal look somewhat fair . But that would mean I care lol

Cal827
01-12-2013, 12:28 AM
That trade was for the guy who thinks Sully would be a star in Toronto and trying to make fair to the Celtics who clearly gave up the most in the Previous deal proposed . I was going to swap Johnson for Davis but then that would mean more salary would have been added and the C's are looking for bigs not trying to lose more. That's why I put in Davis. In the other deal Raptors were basically losing a player they don't want and are winning without .

Fair enough. But I highly doubt that Toronto makes this deal.... If they do, I want Colangelo to get the Brian Burke Treatment, cause this would screw us for the future (Unless Sullinger becomes the next KG lol)

Sportfan
01-12-2013, 12:29 AM
Kinda makes sense for the Lakers and Celts to do a Pierce + fillers for Pau deal. Celts get a legit big man to play alongside KG, Lakers get a SF, and can slide MWP to the PF spot or bring him off the bench and start Hill at the PF.

Highly doubt it happens though

:laugh: Pierce is far and far above Pau's level

NickyNick
01-12-2013, 12:31 AM
you guys are out of your mind haha, I wouldnt trade Sullinger for Pau let alone Pierce. No room for soft players.

dee279
01-12-2013, 12:40 AM
Trade Pierce to LA for Gasol and a box of Honey Nut Cheerios. It would make KG happy.

shep33
01-12-2013, 12:50 AM
you guys are out of your mind haha, I wouldnt trade Sullinger for Pau let alone Pierce. No room for soft players.

Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o80WOuUr5bs

Stunner
01-12-2013, 12:54 AM
Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o80WOuUr5bs

Lmao

RipCity32
01-12-2013, 01:00 AM
If this is true then thats crappy of the Celtics to make it known like that.Not that its not a smart move but he has been a franchise player and deserves more respect than being known as being on the trade market.

RipCity32
01-12-2013, 01:04 AM
If the celtics trade Peirce they should try to get young players and start rebuilding now because its just goimg to be that much harder later.

balla4life22
01-12-2013, 01:06 AM
As a Celtic fan id do that.

Rondo/Barbosa
Bradley/Terry
Green/Ross
KG/Bass/Davis
Pau/Wilcox

you're a bad celtics fan then. I wouldn't trade sullinger for pau gasoft lol sully is the only one other than garnett to crash the boards. And who are we gonna go to in crunch time? Green? haha turrible (barkley voice)

Stunner
01-12-2013, 01:19 AM
Celtics blew their chance of getting a real good talent for Pierce last year really . They should have been cleaned house even though they made the eastern conference finals they were better off not making it that far because it would have brought change. Now Pierce trade value gets worse after every season .

balla4life22
01-12-2013, 01:21 AM
some celts fans seriously take paul pierce for granted. He's been a top 5 small foward in the game for years and one of the most clutch players in the league. If you're going to trade him it should be for a young guy with a good amount of potential not someone like gasol

eibbor
01-12-2013, 01:22 AM
Paul to The Lakers. . . Nah son.

Are you ficking ********?

balla4life22
01-12-2013, 01:22 AM
Celtics blew their chance of getting a real good talent for Pierce last year really . They should have been cleaned house even though they made the eastern conference finals they were better off not making it that far because it would have brought change. Now Pierce trade value gets worse after every season .

i agree that's why they should just keep him now

eibbor
01-12-2013, 01:24 AM
Trade Pierce to LA for Gasol and a box of Honey Nut Cheerios. It would make KG happy.

Lame as possible

LAKobeBryant
01-12-2013, 01:36 AM
lol don't think pierce would wear a LA jersey, bet he'll retire right away if it were to happen

c.c.
01-12-2013, 01:37 AM
Pierce should retire a Celtic!

RUN DMC 20
01-12-2013, 01:40 AM
In my opinion the warriors should try and get him

sep11ie
01-12-2013, 01:47 AM
Bargnani for Pierce.
Gasol for Pierce.
Amar'e for Pierce.

You forgot Boozer for Pierce.

dynasty7961
01-12-2013, 01:56 AM
If Gasol becomes a Celtic i have second thoughts about being a fan. I can not stand him.

dee279
01-12-2013, 02:00 AM
Lame as possible

:catfight:

BGeer091
01-12-2013, 02:05 AM
I would like to see Pierce retire as a Celtic. I feel like its a good for the game kinda thing.

However a good trade IMO for both teams is Pierce to Memphis for Rudy Gay.

KniCks4LiFe
01-12-2013, 02:09 AM
homie can go bleep himself for all I care.

bklynny67
01-12-2013, 02:11 AM
Only way it makes sense is if we can incorporate the Raptors in the deal and get Bargnani.

Lakers get Pierce and Bargnani
Raptors get Sullinger, Melo, and World Peace
Celtics get Gasol

Really think that makes all 3 teams significantly better. And it makes sense financially. Don't sleep on what Pau will do when he's back on the low block playing next to Garnett. And Sullinger could be a star in Toronto.

Celtics give up Pierce, Sullinger, and Melo for only Gasol and you think they get better? :facepalm:

Just Pierce for Gasol and Celtics get worse, now you're adding their two draft picks this yr, one of which has done pretty well. lol

Vee-Rex
01-12-2013, 02:15 AM
I wouldn't trade Sully for Gasol one on one either. People are severely underestimating Sully and with starter minutes + a few years I think he got the potential to be an all-star.

bklynny67
01-12-2013, 02:15 AM
Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o80WOuUr5bs

LOL that is so awesome. Pierce is such a baby.

richiesaurus310
01-12-2013, 02:41 AM
Pierce comes back home to LA, to the Clippers.... A 3rd team would have to be involved to make it work though.

Lucky Junior
01-12-2013, 02:45 AM
:facepalm: I would NEVER give up Pierce, Sullinger, and Melo just for Gasol....

You have to take emotion out of it.

Green is probably as valuable as Pierce is right now when you consider age and contract.

Sulli is risky long term because his health concerns.

Melo has little to no value on a team trying to compete now. And even less if you acquire a possible all star center in the process.

This trade would actually be amazing for the Celtics. And might be just what they need to get past the Heat who's only bad position is center.

Yes, Garnett might cry for a while... but winning solves everything. And you've already committed to Green.

LASportsFan1996
01-12-2013, 02:50 AM
Gasol for Pierce type deal? Sign me up

Lucky Junior
01-12-2013, 02:51 AM
That trade was for the guy who thinks Sully would be a star in Toronto and trying to make fair to the Celtics who clearly gave up the most in the Previous deal proposed . I was going to swap Johnson for Davis but then that would mean more salary would have been added and the C's are looking for bigs not trying to lose more. That's why I put in Davis. In the other deal Raptors were basically losing a player they don't want and are winning without .

I... me... think Sully could blossom into a star in that setting. That has nothing to do with his current NBA value. Toronto wouldn't trade Ross for Sully straight up, let alone with a stud prospect tossed in.


Celtics give up Pierce, Sullinger, and Melo for only Gasol and you think they get better? :facepalm:

Just Pierce for Gasol and Celtics get worse, now you're adding their two draft picks this yr, one of which has done pretty well. lol

False. Pierce to Green isn't a great drop off. On the other hand... Gasol is a top 5 eastern center even at his worse. Allows Garnett to move to his more natural PF spot and gives you a pretty scary 3 some of Pau, KG, and Bass.

penuch
01-12-2013, 03:09 AM
You have to take emotion out of it.

Green is probably as valuable as Pierce is right now when you consider age and contract.

Sulli is risky long term because his health concerns.

Melo has little to no value on a team trying to compete now. And even less if you acquire a possible all star center in the process.

This trade would actually be amazing for the Celtics. And might be just what they need to get past the Heat who's only bad position is center.

Yes, Garnett might cry for a while... but winning solves everything. And you've already committed to Green.

Emotion has nothing to do with it, this would be just a straight up horrible deal for the C's.

1st- They drafted Melo expecting him to be a project and the expectation of having to wait on him, so his value isn't tied to this year or even next.

2nd- As of right now the Celtics make the playoffs, the Lakers don't. C's have been playing a lot better of late.

3rd- So we get the big man we need to get past the heat, but then we have lost Pierce's production, nobody on this team can fill his roll.

4th- They drafted Sully knowing he was a risk, so it's a risk worth taking and so far it is paying off.

5th- Green is NO WHERE as valuable as Pierce. If that was the case then that means the C's could get then same in return for Green that they would PP and that's not even close to true.

KniCks4LiFe
01-12-2013, 03:11 AM
Gasol for Pierce type deal? Sign me up

really? :confused:

penuch
01-12-2013, 03:22 AM
I... me... think Sully could blossom into a star in that setting. That has nothing to do with his current NBA value. Toronto wouldn't trade Ross for Sully straight up, let alone with a stud prospect tossed in.



False. Pierce to Green isn't a great drop off. On the other hand... Gasol is a top 5 eastern center even at his worse. Allows Garnett to move to his more natural PF spot and gives you a pretty scary 3 some of Pau, KG, and Bass.

Not scary at all. Green has been nothing special. Sorry I don't buy PP to Green wouldn't be a big drop off, of course it would be.

PP-
33.2 MPG 19.6PPG 3.8APG .436FG% .387 3PT% .809FT% 5.5RPG EFF +18.71

Green-
23.1 MPG 9.7PPG 0.9APG .421FG% .324 3PT% .805FT% 3.10RPG EFF +8.23

So PPG should be less because he is playing 10 min less, sure the stats are somewhat close, but that isn't what seperates them. PP can carry a team Green can not. They have total different makeup. Green shys away from the spotlight, PP seeks it out. PP has a hunger and a drive that makes him special, where Green is often questioned for how pedestrian and passive he looks on the court. There would be a huge drop off in going from PP to Green. Pierce can win you a game single handily Green just won't.

Lucky Junior
01-12-2013, 03:51 AM
Emotion has nothing to do with it, this would be just a straight up horrible deal for the C's.

1st- They drafted Melo expecting him to be a project and the expectation of having to wait on him, so his value isn't tied to this year or even next.

2nd- As of right now the Celtics make the playoffs, the Lakers don't. C's have been playing a lot better of late.

3rd- So we get the big man we need to get past the heat, but then we have lost Pierce's production, nobody on this team can fill his roll.

4th- They drafted Sully knowing he was a risk, so it's a risk worth taking and so far it is paying off.

5th- Green is NO WHERE as valuable as Pierce. If that was the case then that means the C's could get then same in return for Green that they would PP and that's not even close to true.

1. Melo has been even worse than expected. He hasn't even looked good in the D league. He's WAY more of a project than even the Celtics envisioned. He's not going to hold up a deal that could win them a championship.

2. Neither of us is arguing if this is a good deal from the Lakers perspective, so let's only look at things from the Celtics perspective. And although the Celtics are in the playoffs. They are only 2 games over .500, the 7th seed in bad eastern conference. They can't just hold on to their core and hope it works out. And since KG and PP are old and their value is on the decline, one of those two have to be the one to get shipped out. In reality good players retiring for your club is NOT a good thing.

3. Pierce has been good this year. He has a 20.1 PER, and is scoring 19 points a game on 33 minutes. But you don't really lose that production, instead it shifts to Pau who when on the low block also (before D'antonio decided he should be more like Channing Frye) gives you that same point production, with the added value of being a premiere rebounder. Add in Green who's numbers aren't bad at all. Keep in mind, especially in the East, a Center is WAY more valuable than a SF. If Pau plays at all like he has for the last 5 years he's instantly the best Center in the East.

4. Everyone knows Sully can play, the risky part (big enough that he went in the 20s) was because his back is expected to just get worse with time. They wont hesitate to throw in a guy who realistically could be playing his best ball right now. AND the Celts spent big money to retain Bass and Green who both give you solid minutes at the 4.

5. That's not true. Some teams will prefer Pierce's contract structure, others wont. Some teams will prefer Green's versatility, youth, and affordability, and others wont. Teams like the Rockets and Suns would give up more for Green. Teams like the Lakers and Spurs would give up more for Pierce.

P.s. people seem to forget that Pierce is 35. If you can't win a championship with him right now the smart thing to do is to unload since his value will plummet in the next two years. Exactly what the Celtics are doing currently.

I hated them for not making a push for Howard this off season, but other than that, the Celts are one of my favorite organizations as far as management is concerned.


Not scary at all. Green has been nothing special. Sorry I don't buy PP to Green wouldn't be a big drop off, of course it would be.

PP-
33.2 MPG 19.6PPG 3.8APG .436FG% .387 3PT% .809FT% 5.5RPG EFF +18.71

Green-
23.1 MPG 9.7PPG 0.9APG .421FG% .324 3PT% .805FT% 3.10RPG EFF +8.23

So PPG should be less because he is playing 10 min less, sure the stats are somewhat close, but that isn't what seperates them. PP can carry a team Green can not. They have total different makeup. Green shys away from the spotlight, PP seeks it out. PP has a hunger and a drive that makes him special, where Green is often questioned for how pedestrian and passive he looks on the court. There would be a huge drop off in going from PP to Green. Pierce can win you a game single handily Green just won't.

Gasol put up 18 and 10 last year as the 3rd option. Pretty sure he can carry a team better than Pierce can. You're comparing the wrong players.

WHODAT8o8
01-12-2013, 04:03 AM
Haha everything penuch has said well stated my man

STA_PLAR
01-12-2013, 04:07 AM
As much as I hate the Celtics, I have to be honest in that they look real good defensively right now.

I think they can beat any team in a 7 game series in the east.

Why break up something good to bring in a Rudy Gay, who is not even the best player on his team anymore.

I just hope the Knicks dont have to play the Celtics in the Playoffs.

archdevil84
01-12-2013, 04:15 AM
pau pierce

Celtics33
01-12-2013, 05:21 AM
I don't want to trade Pierce. IMO we just need a center I'd be somewhat satisfied with Mozgov or Zaza even.

mbsalame123
01-12-2013, 05:56 AM
what about paul pierce for rudy gay, a package of that. the celtics get younger and get a replacement for pierce who rondo wants to be teammates with. grizzlies get a small forward that would actually make them much better and potential title contenders. what do you think?

grizzlies would be in win now mode and the celtics would have a future lineup of
than the celtics can go out there and package courtney lee along with brandon bass and someone else like fab melo and draft picks and get marcin gortat and jared dudley.

they would have a future of:

rondo, bradley, gay, sullinger, gortat, jeff green and jared dudley

PAOboston
01-12-2013, 10:48 AM
the only way they trade pierce is if ainge gets completely blown away in a deal where the c's make out like bandits. i dont think there is any legit chance the c's move him, especially for the likes of rudy gay or pau gasol.

the c's are finally coming around. and their defense finally looks like the stingy boston celtics defense of the kg era, even more so now with the re-emergence of bradley since he's come back. the only trade the c's will make is with role players like bass/melo/barbosa/etc who could bring in a decent big to help limit kg's minutes.

69centers
01-12-2013, 10:49 AM
This is not news. His name has been in trade talks every single one of the past 10 years except the first year they got KG and won the title. The outcome will be the same as every one of those other ones.

Corey
01-12-2013, 11:10 AM
Trading Bass and a pick for a center is more likely.

Gormans Mic
01-12-2013, 11:13 AM
:facepalm: I would NEVER give up Pierce, Sullinger, and Melo just for Gasol....

lol don't worry neither would the celtics....Pierce for Gasol straight up wouldn't happen. thank god.:facepalm:

Gormans Mic
01-12-2013, 11:18 AM
Emotion has nothing to do with it, this would be just a straight up horrible deal for the C's.

1st- They drafted Melo expecting him to be a project and the expectation of having to wait on him, so his value isn't tied to this year or even next.

2nd- As of right now the Celtics make the playoffs, the Lakers don't. C's have been playing a lot better of late.

3rd- So we get the big man we need to get past the heat, but then we have lost Pierce's production, nobody on this team can fill his roll.

4th- They drafted Sully knowing he was a risk, so it's a risk worth taking and so far it is paying off.

5th- Green is NO WHERE as valuable as Pierce. If that was the case then that means the C's could get then same in return for Green that they would PP and that's not even close to true.

well said all around....I get the casual fan probably doesn't watch every game of other teams, so trust when we say Green is not capable of filling in the role of Pierce. There is no one who fills that role on that team. I understand why people think on paper this makes the C's better....but Gasol, KG, Green is not better than KG, Bass/Sullinger(currently outplaying Bass and getting the minutes), Pierce.

Don't hold your breath on a Pierce for Gasol trade, will NEVER happen.

hugepatsfan
01-12-2013, 11:36 AM
I don't see how BOS could trade Pierce and get better. If such a trade exists, by all means I hope Danny goes for it. The issue is that Pierce is the only player on the roster that feels comfortable taking 5 shots in a row. If you did a hypothetical Pierce for Gasol trade, then I'd feel pretty good about what BOS has down low, but that would just open up another hole with wing scoring, leaving BOS in pretty much the same place - not good enough to compete for a title.

unwantedplayer
01-12-2013, 11:42 AM
homie can go bleep himself for all I care.

lol some knick fan is still mad....

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-12-2013, 12:10 PM
I'd do pau for pierce trade straightaway.

then might as well rename the lakers to Los Angeles Elderlies

yankeesown69
01-12-2013, 12:16 PM
They've been saying this for the last couple years and the pre KG celtic years, yet hes still in Boston. I'll believe it when I see it

jevans22
01-12-2013, 12:26 PM
This sort of connects to the Pierce thing. Article mentions it.

http://www.knicksfix.com/buzz.html

"The Boston Celtics have been in several trade rumors this year. If it's trying to go after Demarcus Cousins, or even putting Paul Pierce up for trade, they've been active to make their team more athletic. Of course, as of now they have yet to pull a trade off but, sources say that the Celtics are going to continue to push until the deadline.

The Celtics are not interested in making small trades for role players. With the Kings saying Cousins is not going to be traded, the Celtics will perhaps look towards Rudy Gay. The Grizzlies would get what they want in a short contract, and a proven winner in Pierce. The Grizzlies are in "win now mode", so it doesn't seem logical for them to look for young assets and picks. However, the Celtics do also have a few young pieces to better the package.

Rajon Rondo is rumored to be pushing the front-office for a trade. Although this is not confirmed, Rondo has indeed expressed Gay's value, as Marc Spears of Yahoo reports. “It’s hard to talk to (Rondo) because he is always saying, ‘We need you over here. We need you over here. So it’s not easy talking to him. But he’s being a friend, just telling me about keeping everything together and he makes you feel like you are still valuable."

Fly
01-12-2013, 12:29 PM
This is solid all around http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bsrjonf

why the hell would the raps do that?

TheNumber37
01-12-2013, 12:38 PM
pierce should retire a Celtic.

DodgerBlue22
01-12-2013, 12:47 PM
the Celtics aren't trading Pierce period!! he's playing better now than he has in years. The Cs front office doesnt take bad starts as a panic button. It's not happening no way Doc would sign off on that.

mike_noodles
01-12-2013, 12:52 PM
This is solid all around http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bsrjonf

Bwahaha, go and get a clue please. Why on earth would the Raps trade Bargs, Davis and Ross to help facilitate the trade?

Everymanalion
01-12-2013, 12:54 PM
Im willing to bet anything he retires a Celtic.

Bring The Heat
01-12-2013, 01:15 PM
And this is why players shouldn't give a **** about being loyal to their franchise... Pierce has been playing with that team all his career and been more than loyal and now their talking about trading him...

YoungOne
01-12-2013, 01:15 PM
Trading Bass and a pick for a center is more likely.

that would be awesome.

heyman321
01-12-2013, 01:16 PM
why would the celtics trade Pierce for a tampon?

GodsSon
01-12-2013, 01:19 PM
The Clippers should jump all over this IMO.

GoferKing_
01-12-2013, 01:44 PM
Wow, ppl would actualy want to trade for him?

hugepatsfan
01-12-2013, 01:46 PM
Clips would be a nice spot, but I'm not sure their assets match up well with BOS. Unless we move Rondo in a separate deal, Bledsoe doesn't make much sense for us. DeAndre Jordan would be a nice piece next to KG, but IDK if LAC can deal off a big man to get Pierce. It's a shame the teams don't match up better because if we did deal Pierce, that's where I'd like to see him end up.

hugepatsfan
01-12-2013, 01:48 PM
Wow, ppl would actualy want to trade for him?

A top 5 SF who despite his age is pretty consistent, dependable and reliable with championship pedigree that only has ~ $5 mil guaranteed next season (so kind of like an expiring contract) whose acquisition could really ignite a team and a fan base because he's well known...

Yeah, who'd want that?

albertajaysfan
01-12-2013, 02:13 PM
Only way it makes sense is if we can incorporate the Raptors in the deal and get Bargnani.

Lakers get Pierce and Bargnani
Raptors get Sullinger, Melo, and World Peace
Celtics get Gasol

Really think that makes all 3 teams significantly better. And it makes sense financially. Don't sleep on what Pau will do when he's back on the low block playing next to Garnett. And Sullinger could be a star in Toronto.

I think Boston are getting screwed in that deal. But as a Raps fan I'm down. I would even be willing to throw a 2nd rounder Boston's way to grease the wheels on that deal.

bagwell368
01-12-2013, 10:44 PM
the Celtics aren't trading Pierce period!! he's playing better now than he has in years. The Cs front office doesnt take bad starts as a panic button. It's not happening no way Doc would sign off on that.

Better than in years? NFW.

Still, he won't be dealt unless they get ravaged by injuries by the deadline.

jericho
01-12-2013, 11:13 PM
no loyalty to the players and then the fans want the players to loyal i hate the celtics and i hate pierce but this is a slap in the face for all that he has done to that franchise

TheMoneyTeam
01-12-2013, 11:24 PM
Pierce is Bruce Willis here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTpg7lBl7_M

ldawg
01-12-2013, 11:51 PM
This is insane but Pau for Paul is a darn good idea. waive him in the off season and sign josh Smith. I really think Lakers need to dump some $ and sign Smith. I like K Love playing next to Howard but he get injured to much. When Kobe $ fall off sign a solid Pg give kobe mid level if he want to resign

STA_PLAR
01-13-2013, 12:13 AM
We got a whole bunch of GM's up in hurr. Boston is effed up tho. Pierce won them that Chip, but who gives a darn about loyalty.

dalton749
01-13-2013, 12:21 AM
This is solid all around http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bsrjonf

lmao this trade is horrible toronto gets butt raped.
courtney lee for ross. ross is already better as a rookie and the guy has star potential.
ed davis for sulinger. two young players toronto gives up a al horford type guy in davis for a guy with serious health concerns in the future.
and world peace for bargnani lol. they would amnesty bargs long before doing that.
but hey, the lakers would now have a great player at all 5 positions and the celtics have two key peices for their future:facepalm:

ldawg
01-13-2013, 12:57 AM
lmao this trade is horrible toronto gets butt raped.
courtney lee for ross. ross is already better as a rookie and the guy has star potential.
ed davis for sulinger. two young players toronto gives up a al horford type guy in davis for a guy with serious health concerns in the future.
and world peace for bargnani lol. they would amnesty bargs long before doing that.
but hey, the lakers would now have a great player at all 5 positions and the celtics have two key peices for their future:facepalm:seem like a good trade to me

Cracka2HI!
01-13-2013, 04:37 PM
Clips would be a nice spot, but I'm not sure their assets match up well with BOS. Unless we move Rondo in a separate deal, Bledsoe doesn't make much sense for us. DeAndre Jordan would be a nice piece next to KG, but IDK if LAC can deal off a big man to get Pierce. It's a shame the teams don't match up better because if we did deal Pierce, that's where I'd like to see him end up.As a Clippers fan I feel the same way. We'd have to move Jordan to create enough value for the Celtics to make the move. I don't think we can afford to give him up. I would love to have Paul Pierce on the Clippers though!


This is insane but Pau for Paul is a darn good idea. waive him in the off season and sign josh Smith. I really think Lakers need to dump some $ and sign Smith. I like K Love playing next to Howard but he get injured to much. When Kobe $ fall off sign a solid Pg give kobe mid level if he want to resign
It's not a good idea for the Celtics and no the Lakers still would not have cap space to sign Josh Smith if they made this trade and waived Pierce.

Bring The Heat
01-13-2013, 07:57 PM
no loyalty to the players and then the fans want the players to loyal i hate the celtics and i hate pierce but this is a slap in the face for all that he has done to that franchise

That's why I laugh when people here talk about players need to be loyal, how about the organization doing the same? Paul Pierce has stuck with them throughout his whole career, if they were to try and trade him it would be a slap in the face.

There's no such thing as loyalty, its a business. That's why the players in the end should do what they want and not worry about what stupid fans on a message board say or think. This why Ray Allen left the Celtics because they kept dangling him in trade talks. Leave their ***** and go play for a better team in the Heat, very simple decision... Do what is in your best interest.

JordansBulls
01-14-2013, 06:27 PM
Rip and Teague for Pierce

Byronicle
01-14-2013, 06:43 PM
that would be the celtics downfall if they trade their heart and soul to another team, especially the ones listed (2 in their division and their most hated rival)

JordansBulls
01-17-2013, 06:25 PM
Pierce for Parsons on the Rockets.

Gritz
01-17-2013, 06:47 PM
He's not going anywhere

I Rock Shaqs
01-17-2013, 06:56 PM
Wow dude seriously Ed Davis is nowhere near an Al Horford type guy unless you know the future, as well Ross is not already better than Lee, lmao. He's worth more but no way is he better.
Jared Sullinger is better than Davis.
I would love to have MWP on the raptors if it meant getting rid of Bargnani, stop talking out of your ***, you don't represent every raptor fan, but now that that has been said, I would lose it if they traded Ross & davis away for no potential players.

Jacks0n4
01-17-2013, 07:34 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine