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jkiddvc20
01-10-2013, 11:44 PM
How good can this guy be. He plays some excellent defense and is an awesome finisher. Athletic as hell and has som great size for a 2 guard. I do think he is the best player on the Pacers team. What is this guys ceiling. I think he can be a potential all star in this league.

GoPacers33
01-10-2013, 11:45 PM
Top 10 player for sure

Hellcrooner
01-10-2013, 11:47 PM
Deppends?
Can he grow yet another inch? :D

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:50 PM
Top 10 player for sure

:eyebrow:

Stunner
01-10-2013, 11:50 PM
He reminds me of the defensive version of Durant , so a poor mans KD Which isn't bad ; he will make the all star team about 5 times I think .

rocket
01-10-2013, 11:51 PM
6'10

TheNumber37
01-10-2013, 11:51 PM
All NBA 2nd team.
With a 22, 8, 4 type game.

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:55 PM
He reminds me of the defensive version of Durant , so a poor mans KD Which isn't bad ; he will make the all star team about 5 times I think .

:eyebrow:

meloman1592
01-10-2013, 11:57 PM
All star caliber player but never a legit #1 option for a championship contender...a phenomenal #2 guy

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:58 PM
All star caliber player but never a legit #1 option for a championship contender...a phenomenal #2 guy

Scottie?

Stunner
01-10-2013, 11:58 PM
:eyebrow:

? Both are 6'10 , same build , can shoot , handle the ball well . Durant is 10x better on offense but George is the better defender . Thus me calling him the Defensive version of KD a really poor version of him.

Super.
01-10-2013, 11:59 PM
I see an Iggy level of potential for him, so very good, on the cusp of superstardom

Stunner
01-11-2013, 12:00 AM
I see an Iggy level of potential for him, so very good, on the cusp of superstardom

This

BoilerMan013
01-11-2013, 12:01 AM
All star caliber player but never a legit #1 option for a championship contender...a phenomenal #2 guy

Good thing we have about 4 of those on our team ;)

Il Mago50
01-11-2013, 12:05 AM
I see some Scottie Pippen in the guy

nyknicks33
01-11-2013, 12:07 AM
Maybe a Rudy Gay type player

heyman321
01-11-2013, 12:07 AM
All star caliber player but never a legit #1 option for a championship contender...a phenomenal #2 guy

Like melo?

Gibby
01-11-2013, 12:09 AM
I see an Iggy level of potential for him, so very good, on the cusp of superstardom

This but i think he will be better offensively. He is a much better shooter,

IndyRealist
01-11-2013, 12:11 AM
The talk around the Pacers has always been that he could be a Tracy McGrady type talent. Extremely athletic, turning into a great shooter, fantastic length and speed, and a nose for D. Up until now the knock on him was that he hasn't been aggressive enough offensively to ever be a breakout star, but that's all changed this year. It seems like the game's just slowed down for him.

Super.
01-11-2013, 12:14 AM
This but i think he will be better offensively. He is a much better shooter,

I agree. I think he'll always be a great #2, but not the best as a #1.

dee279
01-11-2013, 12:15 AM
Id trade Lebron for him right now! Lebron is only 6"8

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:16 AM
Maybe a Rudy Gay type player

homie you insulting him? :confused:

Rivera
01-11-2013, 12:18 AM
Paul George grew two inches. Hes 6' 10

el hidalgo
01-11-2013, 12:18 AM
how good can he be? He could be 6'11. id go as far as saying he could even be 7'0. The curious case of paul george.

nyknicks33
01-11-2013, 12:24 AM
homie you insulting him? :confused:

Their numbers are very similar. George is def a better defender tho

bucketss
01-11-2013, 12:24 AM
? Both are 6'10 , same build , can shoot , handle the ball well . Durant is 10x better on offense but George is the better defender . Thus me calling him the Defensive version of KD a really poor version of him.

havent seen him lately but last time i watched him his ball handling was very loose.

HotMayo
01-11-2013, 12:37 AM
Probably the next MJ

b@llhog24
01-11-2013, 12:39 AM
His overall efficiency is somewhat "meh" but I'm a firm believer in the "trial by fire " approach in developing talented players, plus he's only 22 and he puts in work on the defensive end. However I'm fairly confident that he'll never be as good as Tmac (he turns the ball over way too much to even make that comparison) but he could be a poor man's version on offense with possibly better D. Kid's a keeper and should be an all-star in about 2-3 years.

Clippersfan86
01-11-2013, 12:41 AM
Still furious the Clippers drafted Aminu instead of this guy!! He said he was a Clippers fan and wanted to be drafted by the Clippers and our front office STILL blew it. He would have been our SF and 3rd guy for the next decade along with BG+CP3 and we could have sent Bledsoe to NO without worrying about giving up all assets.

BoilerMan013
01-11-2013, 12:47 AM
Still furious the Clippers drafted Aminu instead of this guy!! He said he was a Clippers fan and wanted to be drafted by the Clippers and our front office STILL blew it. He would have been our SF and 3rd guy for the next decade along with BG+CP3 and we could have sent Bledsoe to NO without worrying about giving up all assets.

Would he have gotten playing time? He was very raw offensively his first year and a half.

cuttydoesit6
01-11-2013, 12:51 AM
would loveeeee him on the bulls damn

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 12:58 AM
Maybe a Rudy Gay type player

he'll be better than that imo, he's young and improving fast.

PurpleJesus
01-11-2013, 01:06 AM
Everyone loves him now, but the haters will come out in full affect when he signs his first big contract.

GodsSon
01-11-2013, 01:09 AM
Maybe a Rudy Gay type player

He's already a better passer, rebounder and defender than Gay.

ombada
01-11-2013, 01:47 AM
As someone already mentioned, hes only 22 years old and getting better. Its starting to come easy for him. His shot is coming around and he is being more aggressive. He is using his athleticism to school bigger defenders and his height to pull up on smaller defenders. Hes a mismatch nightmare and hes finally starting to realize it. His ball handing has gotten much better over the course of the year, but that is the biggest concern. He is young, so he still makes mistakes you would expect a young guy to make, but they have been few and far between. With Granger out, West slowing down and Hill injured he has been the offensive focus of the team.

His defense is very impressive. The worst part about it is he hasnt figured out how to defend the screen effectively. Sometimes he gets around, sometimes he doesnt.

Ebbs
01-11-2013, 04:03 AM
Scottie?

Better scorer but yea that's his ceiling

SMH!
01-11-2013, 04:20 AM
Deppends?
Can he grow yet another inch? :D

depends, is he European?

shep33
01-11-2013, 04:27 AM
I think he'll be better than Rudy, but Scottie Pippen? Let's not get ahead of ourselves fellas.

Love his game, and now Indy has to deal Granger to keep developing George. I don't like Granger hoisting up 15-16 shots per game and scoring at a low clip.

xILLN355
01-11-2013, 05:36 AM
Paul George grew two inches. Hes 6'10

NYJ - NYY
01-11-2013, 09:30 AM
I think he can be a special type of player maybe not bron but special nonetheless

koreancabbage
01-11-2013, 09:51 AM
he's pretty good for a SG at 6'9"-6'11" i don't even know how tall the man in now.

I think they will move him to SF eventually. He is pretty scary if yo uare being guarded by him. his length and quickness is crazy, especially if he gets down and tries to defend opposing SGs.

They will be crazy good when Granger gets back in. but its a good thing Granger has been hurt cuz George is developing every game and becoming a great player (if not already)

He makes the Pacers the third best team in the East (Miami, Chicago)

mjt20mik
01-11-2013, 10:00 AM
He will probably become the face of the franchise. He's playing the 3 right now, and excelling at it.

koreancabbage
01-11-2013, 10:02 AM
He will probably become the face of the franchise. He's playing the 3 right now, and excelling at it.

he already has I believe. Hibbert has been injured and so has Granger. This is George's team now.

ATX
01-11-2013, 10:20 AM
Yes, he is becoming the face of the franchise, and is their best player. I think he'll become a top 10 player.

Mile High Champ
01-11-2013, 10:25 AM
Paul George has superstar written all over him. I watch a lot of Pacers games as a fan and he simply keeps getting better and better. It really is remarkable how far his jump shot has come since Fresno State. Yes his efficiency needs to be better but that will come with maturity and development. I do think that that his shot selection will continue to improve as will his free throw rate per contest as he grows into that body of his. He still does not realize at times how to use his body to his advantage and when he does, watch out! With Granger out, George has finally been given the opportunity to be the number 1 option. He remains only 22 years old so he has a lot more room to grow and the sky is certainly the limit.

GoferKing_
01-11-2013, 10:46 AM
What is so special about this kid that you all see? He is medicore with flashes of an all star, but its once for about ten games.

koreancabbage
01-11-2013, 11:07 AM
What is so special about this kid that you all see? He is medicore with flashes of an all star, but its once for about ten games.

17 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists is mediocre? :facepalm:

THE MTL
01-11-2013, 11:09 AM
I think he needs to moved to the small forward position. Thats when Durant's career really took off. Paul George pretty much is a poor man's Durant.

sagemania
01-11-2013, 11:41 AM
He is what Jonathen Bender never became.

eugene
01-11-2013, 11:56 AM
he still can't shoot good :)

BullsFTW
01-11-2013, 12:01 PM
he will definitely deserve the max when he gets his extension.

GoferKing_
01-11-2013, 12:10 PM
17 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists is mediocre? :facepalm:

Well, my mistake then. xD

AIMelo=KillaDUO
01-11-2013, 12:28 PM
This good... { }

OldStyleCubbies
01-11-2013, 03:57 PM
He has potential to be the GOAT. Watch out Jordan.

LeperMessiah
01-11-2013, 03:58 PM
he still can't shoot good :)

It will come in time, he aint ariza bad.

Alayla
01-11-2013, 08:13 PM
Maybe a Rudy Gay type player

Hes better than gay...

PacersForLife
01-11-2013, 08:17 PM
he still can't shoot good :)

He's already beat Reggie's record for most threes in a game...

KingPosey
01-11-2013, 08:35 PM
He reminds me of the defensive version of Durant , so a poor mans KD Which isn't bad ; he w ill make the all star team about 5 times I think .
About 5 times you think lol? Ok

IDOHERBETTER
02-22-2013, 03:02 AM
What is so special about this kid that you all see? He is medicore with flashes of an all star, but its once for about ten games.



PAUL GEORGE Is a special talent. Amazing defender and can shoot it from the trey.

Special player.

IKnowHoops
02-22-2013, 03:11 AM
From an athletic standoint, he reminds me of Tracy Mcgrady

IversonIsKrazy
02-22-2013, 03:15 AM
I see a bright future for him. Better than Gay, Iggy, and what other posters are saying. He can be a TMac that passes the first-round.

Bullsfan22
02-22-2013, 03:34 AM
He needs to become a better ball handler and playmaker to be considered the next scottie.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-22-2013, 04:16 AM
lol he's nowhere near the defender pippen was, he is a terrible shooter with even worse shot selection.
he has worked on his game though!
he is a very solid 3 point shooter.

he is probably a top 5 perimeter defender in the league currently, but he needs to work on ball handling, playmaking, making the right play, and offensive effeciency to even compare him to players like gay, iggy, etc.

however, i will say this.. he has the tools to be a top 10 player in the league in 3-4 years.. and by the time he gets to his prime who knows, maybe top 5.

PacersForLife
02-22-2013, 04:20 AM
lol he's nowhere near the defender pippen was, he is a terrible shooter with even worse shot selection.
he has worked on his game though!
he is a very solid 3 point shooter.

he is probably a top 5 perimeter defender in the league currently, but he needs to work on ball handling, playmaking, making the right play, and offensive effeciency to even compare him to players like gay, iggy, etc.

however, i will say this.. he has the tools to be a top 10 player in the league in 3-4 years.. and by the time he gets to his prime who knows, maybe top 5.

What is all this stuff about he can't shoot? I also rarely see him not make the right play.

sharqstealth
02-22-2013, 04:22 AM
A clone of Danny Granger

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-22-2013, 04:27 AM
What is all this stuff about he can't shoot? I also rarely see him not make the right play.

... wow

here, lemme explain in detail:

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Paul%20George

3-9ft- 28%
10-15ft- 36.4%
16-23ft- 36%

= he isnt a good shooter, with even worse shot selection.

his turnovers/playmaking skills are very subpar, but he is young, so im not going to penalize him, hence why i listed it on things he needs to improve.

The most consistent player on that team that "makes the right play" majority of the time is david west.

eso
02-22-2013, 04:42 AM
Didn't your parents teach you anything? You can't trust a man with two first names!!! Dwight Cough Cough Howard

rockbottom2010
02-22-2013, 05:07 AM
A clone of Danny Granger

more athletic...and more talented.....

ChiTownPacerFan
02-22-2013, 05:30 AM
First of all, can I remind everyone that he's only 22 years old!

I think he has superstar potential. He won't be a LeBron James or Kevin Durant level superstar, but he could be a perennial all star/face of the franchise for years. He's already one of the best perimeter defenders in the game, and he's uber athletic. I don't know why people are saying he can't shoot. He's shooting virtually the same percentage from deep as Klay Thompson and JJ Redick. He can shoot the ball. He has to work on his handles and develop a more consistent overall offensive game, but that should come with time. This kid is going to be very good for a long time.

PHX2daDEATH
02-22-2013, 07:00 AM
I've won 2 MVP's and a championship w/ him on the Suns on 2k13...but thats a video game..is he a MVP type player now? he could be...If he learns how to handle the ball better, he'll be a top 10 player in the league
..

rockbottom2010
02-22-2013, 07:34 AM
the pacers are knocking on the door

ombada
02-22-2013, 08:35 AM
the question is how good can he be. Hes only 22 and already on Gay and Iggys level. I think he could max out at a mix of Pippen and T-mac, some happy medium.

chi-townlove1
02-22-2013, 09:15 AM
I said it when he got drafted. 2k definitely helped my opinion as well. Top 5 player. Defensive capability of Lebron. Offensive capability of say Rudy gay. Honestly think this guy has all the potential in the world. Love him love him love him. I feel like mike Greenberg and his love for revis and Russell Wilson.

koreancabbage
02-22-2013, 09:23 AM
he'll be better than that imo, he's young and improving fast.

thats what they said about Gay lol - hasn't taken the next step.

koreancabbage
02-22-2013, 09:25 AM
First of all, can I remind everyone that he's only 22 years old!

I think he has superstar potential. He won't be a LeBron James or Kevin Durant level superstar, but he could be a perennial all star/face of the franchise for years. He's already one of the best perimeter defenders in the game, and he's uber athletic. I don't know why people are saying he can't shoot. He's shooting virtually the same percentage from deep as Klay Thompson and JJ Redick. He can shoot the ball. He has to work on his handles and develop a more consistent overall offensive game, but that should come with time. This kid is going to be very good for a long time.

so he's not a superstar. its okay to call him a star but a superstar? no way. not yet. until everyone knows his name and his name transcends the game itself and people start calling by his last name and people know what you're talking about when you say it - is a superstar.

yaswaggin
02-22-2013, 09:42 AM
Didn't your parents teach you anything? You can't trust a man with two first names!!! Dwight Cough Cough Howard

First off Dwight is pretty good, but lebron has two first names, so yeah

HYFR
02-22-2013, 09:44 AM
You guys are crazy saying he close to being a superstar. He is a good defender but he needs to get his efficiency up. Def a viable no. 2 guy on a championship team

koreancabbage
02-22-2013, 09:59 AM
ya man. can't be a superstar when you are known as a chucker. mr low 40% shooting %.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-22-2013, 10:32 AM
First of all, can I remind everyone that he's only 22 years old!

I think he has superstar potential. He won't be a LeBron James or Kevin Durant level superstar, but he could be a perennial all star/face of the franchise for years. He's already one of the best perimeter defenders in the game, and he's uber athletic. I don't know why people are saying he can't shoot. He's shooting virtually the same percentage from deep as Klay Thompson and JJ Redick. He can shoot the ball. He has to work on his handles and develop a more consistent overall offensive game, but that should come with time. This kid is going to be very good for a long time.

...theres a website called hoopdata.com where it shows his breakdowns from all areas of the court. maybe you should check those stats before you claim that he is a good shooter.

he is a good 3 point shooter, but u dont automatically be a good shooter just cos you can shoot well from 23 feet lol

D-Leethal
02-22-2013, 10:40 AM
I think he will be a Joe Johnson level star. More suited for a 2nd option but able to bring the right team to the 2nd round as a first option.

Sly Guy
02-22-2013, 12:14 PM
man I wanted my raps to trade for him the second he came into the league. Now everyone knows about him and he's become 'off-limits' t trades. He'd have looked way better with our roster than rudy gay IMO.

IDOHERBETTER
02-22-2013, 12:35 PM
Dude you're a clown. Paul George at 22 is way better than GAY and IGGY!

You fool. For years Gay+Granger+Iggy where in a cluster. Paul George has both offensive skills and defensive. His numbers are 1000x better after the GS state game. He leads the NBA in defensive win shares, He is 3rd in the whole NBA with a defensive rating of 96.3, He's at a 55% TS percentage which is way above avg, Coming off his first all star game at 22 in wich the coach put him over Bosh and Co's. Hit 2 clutch 3's. Your ignorance is strong, Coming off a All-star game vs the Knicks he DESTROYED Melo, HE RIPPED IMAN!

He forced Melo to go into chucker mode.

I always believed he would get to where he was today at some point. I was wrong about how quickly he'd be here though. He's been even better in February than January and December, which is amazing (he's at 20.8 ppg 8.4 rpg 4.8 apg so far on 45/40 from the field) I thought these numbers would be something he'd approach when he was 24 or 25, entering his prime, now I believe he can be a legitimate elite player someday, and his play over the past 37 games hasn't been far off from that plateau truth be told.


He lead to shutting down the Heat twice, Paul George is a different animal from last year.

Educate yourself. I'm a Lakers fan btw, But Paul George played near me. So I have watched this kid grow.

IDOHERBETTER
02-22-2013, 12:42 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/30a40oh.png
http://i45.tinypic.com/30a40oh.png


Paul Killlllls Gay.

ombada
02-22-2013, 12:49 PM
First of all, can I remind everyone that he's only 22 years old!

I think he has superstar potential. He won't be a LeBron James or Kevin Durant level superstar, but he could be a perennial all star/face of the franchise for years. He's already one of the best perimeter defenders in the game, and he's uber athletic. I don't know why people are saying he can't shoot. He's shooting virtually the same percentage from deep as Klay Thompson and JJ Redick. He can shoot the ball. He has to work on his handles and develop a more consistent overall offensive game, but that should come with time. This kid is going to be very good for a long time.


so he's not a superstar. its okay to call him a star but a superstar? no way. not yet. until everyone knows his name and his name transcends the game itself and people start calling by his last name and people know what you're talking about when you say it - is a superstar.

It says right there in the quote 'potential' Hes not saying he believes him to be a superstar now, but that he has the potential to be one in the future.

IndyRealist
02-22-2013, 12:55 PM
... wow

here, lemme explain in detail:

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Paul%20George

3-9ft- 28%
10-15ft- 36.4%
16-23ft- 36%

= he isnt a good shooter, with even worse shot selection.

his turnovers/playmaking skills are very subpar, but he is young, so im not going to penalize him, hence why i listed it on things he needs to improve.

The most consistent player on that team that "makes the right play" majority of the time is david west.

You are cherry picking stats. From your own link:
Location/Attempts per game/eFG%
AT RIM/3.9 per game/62.6%
3-9ft/1.0 per game/28%
10-15ft/1.1 per game/36.4%
16-23ft/3.0 per game28.3%
3's/5.8 per game/58.7%
He takes the 2/3 of his shots either at the rim or from 3, where he's hyper efficient That's fantastic shot selection.

Greet
02-22-2013, 12:57 PM
When I think of his peak, I just think of Iguodala (Just a little less defense, and a little more offense).

NoahH
02-22-2013, 01:02 PM
When it's all said and done it'll go:

1. MJ
2. Paul George
3. Magic Johnson
4. LeBron
5. Kareem

Pacerlive
02-22-2013, 01:08 PM
...theres a website called hoopdata.com where it shows his breakdowns from all areas of the court. maybe you should check those stats before you claim that he is a good shooter.

he is a good 3 point shooter, but u dont automatically be a good shooter just cos you can shoot well from 23 feet lol

I think you have to think about what you are saying as well. He isn't a diverse shooter is the right way to word it IMO. Rudy Gay takes higher percentage shots than PG at this point but he is worse at taking longer range shots that have a lower percentage of dropping.

Gay also takes 20% fewer three's than PG and it makes up about 19% of his shots overall. Contrast that to PG in which case 38% of his shots are from three point line or beyond.

We can argue what is a high percentage shot or a low percentage shot but just as Gay sucks in comparsion to PG when it comes to three point shooting he makes up for it by taking those higher percentage shots from mid range which makes him a better mid range shooter.

IMO a GREAT shooter can do both and neither are great shooters. The word good shouldn't just apply to a midrange shooter IMO. Both have their advantages and can work so why should you just consider a good midrange shooter better than a great 3 point shooter?

LongIslandIcedZ
02-22-2013, 01:09 PM
Definitely not a superstar, going by my definition at least.

Perhaps slightly below a star, or well above average.

MrfadeawayJB
02-22-2013, 01:13 PM
He will be equivalent to Granger ..maybe a little better but never eclipsing all star level imo

D-Leethal
02-22-2013, 01:14 PM
Latrell Sprewell is a pretty good comparison.

IDOHERBETTER
02-22-2013, 01:15 PM
Definitely not a superstar, going by my definition at least.

Perhaps slightly below a star, or well above average.


If Danny was considered a Star for Indiana, Than Paul George has arrived. If Harden is considered a Star than so is Paul. 2 games vs Det? I think It's safe to say that they'll hold the 2nd seed for now on. The Knicks have a tough stretch coming up. Paul George has been carrying this Pacers team. People are underrating his defense, That thing is out of this planet. The only player who he struggles with is Bron Bron, But even then. The Pacers handed Mia that lost in the last 10 games, Remember.. MIA wanted that game vs IND, They talked about it, Battier and Barry both said that there was a focus from MIA that game that was not seen all season, They got beat to a pulp.

IDOHERBETTER
02-22-2013, 01:16 PM
Latrell Sprewell is a pretty good comparison.



IShhh, Might not be as good as J.R Smith. LOL. I could tell that this board is full of young ones. How old are you son 16-17?

Pacerlive
02-22-2013, 01:20 PM
it says right there in the quote 'potential' hes not saying he believes him to be a superstar now, but that he has the potential to be one in the future.

Its also in the context of the thread title but hey who knows how to read on PSD anyways.

IDOHERBETTER
02-22-2013, 01:28 PM
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18fdep1b4z3gypng/original.png

Paul trying to get the pipe.

Sly Guy
02-22-2013, 01:32 PM
Dude you're a clown. Paul George at 22 is way better than GAY and IGGY!

You fool. For years Gay+Granger+Iggy where in a cluster. Paul George has both offensive skills and defensive. His numbers are 1000x better after the GS state game. He leads the NBA in defensive win shares, He is 3rd in the whole NBA with a defensive rating of 96.3, He's at a 55% TS percentage which is way above avg, Coming off his first all star game at 22 in wich the coach put him over Bosh and Co's. Hit 2 clutch 3's. Your ignorance is strong, Coming off a All-star game vs the Knicks he DESTROYED Melo, HE RIPPED IMAN!

He forced Melo to go into chucker mode.

I always believed he would get to where he was today at some point. I was wrong about how quickly he'd be here though. He's been even better in February than January and December, which is amazing (he's at 20.8 ppg 8.4 rpg 4.8 apg so far on 45/40 from the field) I thought these numbers would be something he'd approach when he was 24 or 25, entering his prime, now I believe he can be a legitimate elite player someday, and his play over the past 37 games hasn't been far off from that plateau truth be told.


He lead to shutting down the Heat twice, Paul George is a different animal from last year.

Educate yourself. I'm a Lakers fan btw, But Paul George played near me. So I have watched this kid grow.

read the words dude. I prefer George to Gay.

IDOHERBETTER
02-22-2013, 01:36 PM
read the words dude. I prefer George to Gay.

It wasn't towards you. It was towards the guy who said his ceiling is gay. He has passed Gay.

http://cdn.head-fi.org/4/4a/4adcd3b2_Benny_hinn_2.gif But good to see the Demons have left your soul.

D-Leethal
02-22-2013, 01:41 PM
IShhh, Might not be as good as J.R Smith. LOL. I could tell that this board is full of young ones. How old are you son 16-17?

I am 24. I am pretty much agreeing with you that the kid is a stud. You think being compared to Sprewell is a slight?

They have very similar games, and I think George is a similar level star. Spree was a 4x all star, made the All NBA First team in '94, all defense second team in '94. Averaged 18-4-4 for his career, peaked at 24-5-6, made the NBA finals and the WCF as the second best player on the team.

I think thats a pretty solid comparison for PG.

IndyRealist
02-22-2013, 01:51 PM
I am 24. I am pretty much agreeing with you that the kid is a stud. You think being compared to Sprewell is a slight?

They have very similar games, and I think George is a similar level star. Spree was a 4x all star, made the All NBA First team in '94, all defense second team in '94. Averaged 18-4-4 for his career, peaked at 24-5-6, made the NBA finals and the WCF as the second best player on the team.

I think thats a pretty solid comparison for PG.

I'd be happy with a Sprewell like career out of him, minus the "attacking his coach" thing. He's not getting all defense 1st teams while Lebron is around, but 2nd team isn't out of the question. All NBA teams are out of the question, he's not going to be on par with Lebron or Durant. He's good, he's not that good. In a year or two he may be the 3rd best SF in the league.

justinnum1
02-22-2013, 03:11 PM
I think he is a little overrated.

OceanSpray
02-22-2013, 03:29 PM
He has to share the ball with crybaby Granger soon. He has to work on his shot selections. I don't think he's that good.. Definitely has potential but not a top 10 player.

ChiTownPacerFan
02-22-2013, 03:47 PM
To everyone saying he's not that good, he's overrated, or he doesn't have superstar potential... How many Pacer games have you honestly watched this year?

xRipCity
02-22-2013, 04:03 PM
George combines rare height and strength with a good shot and increasingly better basketball IQ. I like his game. I see him continuing to be an all-star, never a superstar. He will peak higher than Rudy Gay, but won't ever touch Bron, KD, or even Melo.

PacersForLife
02-22-2013, 04:46 PM
To everyone saying he's not that good, he's overrated, or he doesn't have superstar potential... How many Pacer games have you honestly watched this year?

Exactly. They all wanna base their opinions on stats and what not. Well, I go from what I see. It is clear that some of these people still haven't realized what kind of talent he has and the potential he has to become a star. The difference between him and guys like Granger, Gay, and Iggy are that he can score as good as Granger and Gay while also being able to defend as well or better than Iggy. All while only being 22 years old.

And if you wanna make jokes, that's fine. I know he is not nearly on the same level as guys like Durant and LeBron at this point...

OceanSpray
02-22-2013, 05:36 PM
The question is how good can he be. Do you think he's going to be as good as Durant, LeBron, Carmelo, etc? I don't think so. His FG% is also terrible.

justinnum1
02-22-2013, 05:39 PM
The question is how good can he be. Do you think he's going to be as good as Durant, LeBron, Carmelo, etc? I don't think so. His FG% is also terrible.

Why are you putting melo with Durant and bron?

AIRMAR72
02-22-2013, 07:18 PM
he reminds me of Scottie Pippen..just alittle bit, but he could be as good as he wanna be he is long,agile,jumps well and fast with a good motor needs to improve on his postgame and shooting touch

ombada
02-22-2013, 09:54 PM
The question is how good can he be. Do you think he's going to be as good as Durant, LeBron, Carmelo, etc? I don't think so. His FG% is also terrible.

This guy is a straight Pacer hater. I dont know what he has against us, considering we have never won anything in the NBA. I mean i guess an eastern conference championship in 00', but really thats a stretch for so much hate.

ThaDubs
02-22-2013, 10:03 PM
The question is how good can he be. Do you think he's going to be as good as Durant, LeBron, Carmelo, etc? I don't think so. His FG% is also terrible.

Or course not those 3 guys. That's not what anybody is expecting. His FG% isn't terrible. It's fair-below average. Allen Iverson was even more inefficient. Does that mean he's better than AI? Paul George is a ridiculous rebounder and passer for his position and is leading a winning team without their best player. He can be a 9/10.

Hawkeye15
02-22-2013, 10:06 PM
top 20-25 player in his prime, I think he is an ideal #3 on a championship team for instance.

b@llhog24
02-22-2013, 10:08 PM
top 20-25 player in his prime, I think he is an ideal #3 on a championship team for instance.

Hawk, didn't you hear? He's supposed to be the next Tmac.

hugepatsfan
02-22-2013, 11:28 PM
I think the OP meant to ask how tall he can be.

DallasTrilla23
02-22-2013, 11:50 PM
I think he will be a one of the elite defenders in the NBA

Pacerlive
02-23-2013, 12:04 AM
I think he will be a one of the elite defenders in the NBA

He already is and here is a sample of tonight's block he had on Stuckey.

http://www.nba.com/games/20130222/DETIND/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nbahpgt[0021200814]

justinnum1
02-23-2013, 12:07 AM
top 20-25 player in his prime, I think he is an ideal #3 on a championship team for instance.

nah, he is a #2 guy imo.

Chronz
02-23-2013, 04:43 AM
nah, he is a #2 guy imo.

What do you expect from Indiana this year?

Monta is beast
02-23-2013, 04:48 AM
He has a chance to be a 20-5-10 player.

Hawkeye15
02-23-2013, 05:05 AM
Hawk, didn't you hear? He's supposed to be the next Tmac.

We would have already seen that potential, and I know you are being facetious. He has absolutely no chance at being a #1.

Hawkeye15
02-23-2013, 05:06 AM
nah, he is a #2 guy imo.

not on a contender, you know, the teams that can win a chip...

Rndy
02-23-2013, 06:59 AM
he reminds me of Scottie Pippen..just alittle bit, but he could be as good as he wanna be he is long,agile,jumps well and fast with a good motor needs to improve on his postgame and shooting touch

Bulls announcers have been saying this for years. He's looking like a superstar in the making. Nothing better in my opinion then a great player who seems humble. I've never seen him act like a moron after dunking or not getting a call and standing there arguing with a ref while the other team is scoring. I can see the future of basketball looking very bright with guys like Rose, Durant, George, Irving, and Davis. Humble players that don't act like clowns.

ombada
02-23-2013, 07:54 AM
We would have already seen that potential, and I know you are being facetious. He has absolutely no chance at being a #1.

Whos we? a bunch of people have seen it. Fans, folks in the media, people around the NBA, his peers...they have all mentioned that he is a special player. idk who else needs to see it? What is it you dont see in him?

IDK if his ceiling is a #1 or #2 or 3. But the Pacers are playing really well and he is the main feature.

Becks2307
02-23-2013, 11:39 AM
PG is the man. Def #2 on a contending team (top 4-5 in a conference)

3RDASYSTEM
02-23-2013, 11:56 AM
I don't know but I figure if he win rings early he would have a chance for top 10 greatness of alltime because im sure hes going to pull off a BEAN and just improve tremendously each and every yr from yr1 to yr17

GEORGE better not get his hands on some rings, which not only improve your individual game, but it takes you top 10 automatic, well 3-5rings that is

I learned how to judge/rank a player via psd by the ring total, not the boxoffice/day1 game changer, the 'how good could he be' player is the best types ever,wow

where did GRANGER finish ROY voting, did he start day1? did he have fans holding up 'we're ready for revolution' signs in the crowd? he made his first allstar game right? was it by default like IGGY made it last yr for the sake of having a representer on the squad or was it legit? I haven't watched much of him but when I did I said he could play, nothing special but his freakish height/length...good nba player, but if he wins 3-5rings, he instantly becomes BEAN,nothing more nothing less, cause I said the same thing when I saw BEAN play, I said nothing special(JORDAN copycat), but could be a good player(til rings got involved) for yrs

Becks2307
02-23-2013, 12:02 PM
I just cant see George becoming a legit number one. I mean he could be a pseudo number one on a decent team but I just cant see him becoming a bona fide super star. Not to say it can't happen though. It's crazy that he's 22 though

nbagm
02-23-2013, 12:03 PM
i think he'll be a mcgrady type of player but with more defense and once he expands his offensive game hell be in the all star game for years to come.

justinnum1
02-23-2013, 01:18 PM
Certainly not a #1. But I think he is a #2. Also granger is not a #1 either.

PacersForLife
02-23-2013, 07:17 PM
Whos we? a bunch of people have seen it. Fans, folks in the media, people around the NBA, his peers...they have all mentioned that he is a special player. idk who else needs to see it? What is it you dont see in him?

IDK if his ceiling is a #1 or #2 or 3. But the Pacers are playing really well and he is the main feature.

This.

I'm not quite sure he'll ever be a #1 option. But, this is the first year he's been able to fully showcase what he can do and he's done a pretty good job at it. I don't know what else you wanna see.

Purple_n_Gold
02-23-2013, 07:19 PM
Very good. I wish we had him. Sacre for George! Lol.

Sactown
02-23-2013, 07:20 PM
He's a studmuffin

Cal827
02-23-2013, 07:20 PM
I might be have high expectations but by his 6th year, I'm going to expect him averaging a quadruple double per game on 70% shooting and 65% from 3 point range.

I also anticipate NBA on TNT catchphrasing the term "Paul-Georged" and Shaq to proclaim him as a better center than Dwight Howard.

Hawkeye15
02-23-2013, 07:21 PM
Whos we? a bunch of people have seen it. Fans, folks in the media, people around the NBA, his peers...they have all mentioned that he is a special player. idk who else needs to see it? What is it you dont see in him?

IDK if his ceiling is a #1 or #2 or 3. But the Pacers are playing really well and he is the main feature.

He is in season 3, all 3 seasons he has seen significant minutes. He just doesn't fit the bill as a future star to me. I think he can be a top 20-25 player at some point, but I don't see "special" on him, that is reserved for potential superstars.

sunsfan88
02-24-2013, 03:22 AM
I think he can be better than James Harden.

Master Mind
02-24-2013, 03:26 AM
I think he can be better than James Harden.

:rimshot:

Showtime Steve
02-24-2013, 02:06 PM
Actually kind of scary he CAN be. But especially recently there have been too many players that we asked that question about and it never panned out. But he is improving year by year.

superior
02-24-2013, 02:30 PM
pip

IDOHERBETTER
02-24-2013, 05:30 PM
pip


Thank you... He's putting up similar numbers to what Pip put up in year 7.

kobebabe
02-24-2013, 05:30 PM
sky is the limit for this dude. He will go as far as Paul George wonna go ;)

D12 fan
02-27-2013, 04:06 PM
IMO he is the 3rd best sf behind Lebron/Durant. Carmelo can score but he really doesn't do anything else. Paul George can do it all score/pass/defense, he is legit and has become my 2nd favorite player in the NBA.

Paul George=Tmac with more heart.

mjt20mik
02-27-2013, 04:17 PM
Paul George=Tmac with more heart.

Agree. I really think he could become a superstar if he keeps on improving. He is still very young (only 22).

Byronicle
02-27-2013, 04:30 PM
Yeah I like the Igoudala/Pippen mix

BigCityofDreams
05-25-2013, 09:12 PM
Seems like a good time to bump this thread.

TheNumber37
05-25-2013, 09:40 PM
He can be 1st team ALL NBA if he continues to improve.

With the way Indiana plays, he will never crazy stats, but I thin in Indiana he can efficiently average.. 23, 8 and 5 with a block and steal shooting about 48% from the floor 40% and 86% from the line.

b@llhog24
05-25-2013, 10:11 PM
He's still not a number one option.

smith&wesson
05-25-2013, 10:23 PM
George is under rated. He is a future super star

OldStyleCubbies
05-25-2013, 10:26 PM
As said on the telecast last night, a top 3 two-way player in the league.

smith&wesson
05-25-2013, 10:29 PM
He's still not a number one option.

What do you mean "still" he is a third year player

PacersForLife
05-25-2013, 10:40 PM
I wonder if anybody has changed their opinion.

b@llhog24
05-25-2013, 11:30 PM
What do you mean "still" he is a third year player

Current and based on future projections.

ManningToTyree
05-25-2013, 11:37 PM
Perennial all star.

PrettyBoyJ
05-25-2013, 11:44 PM
I think If he attacked the basket more, and work on his shot selection he could be a great player.. He's still developing so he can only get better

kingkenny01
05-25-2013, 11:47 PM
Multiple allstars, all nba teams but stuck behind lebron and durant on the all nba team, definitely the best guy from the 2010 draft right now and probably when he finishes his career

b@llhog24
05-25-2013, 11:49 PM
Perennial all star.

Serious this! People act as if that's a bad thing.

STAT1
05-26-2013, 12:21 AM
Paul George.

ewmania
05-26-2013, 12:40 AM
he reminds me of a young pippen, especially as a defender

I see him being a superstar if he keeps going at this rate... what a steal he was

VCaintdead17
05-26-2013, 02:05 AM
Current and based on future projections.

Lol

b@llhog24
05-26-2013, 02:17 AM
Lol

The Pacer fan doesn't agree, wow shocking. :speechless:

VCaintdead17
05-26-2013, 02:24 AM
The Pacer fan doesn't agree, wow shocking. :speechless:

Oh hey thanks for putting words in my mouth. But should I really be surprised? This is PSD after all. I actually don't think PG has what it takes to be a number one option. #2? Sure, but I wouldn't count on him to be my go to guy again and again.


No, what I am wondering is what the hell "based on future projections" is supposed to mean.

Oj&mayonnaise
05-26-2013, 02:25 AM
a allstar

b@llhog24
05-26-2013, 02:31 AM
Oh hey thanks for putting words in my mouth.

If you don't state your true premise, don't be surprised if people take what you're saying out of context.


But should I really be surprised? This is PSD after all. I actually don't think PG has what it takes to be a number one option. #2? Sure, but I wouldn't count on him to be my go to guy again and again.


He's not a number one, and I'm on the fence on whether or not he's a number two option. He'd be a great 3rd option on offense and can be your second best player on a title team depending on how good your number one is.


No, what I am wondering is what the hell "based on future projections" is supposed to mean.

I hate "what have you done for me lately" reactions. Can't chu tell? Players can, have and will continue to exceed your expectations and mines. However, I'd rather be surprised that they achieved that level than to declare someone the next Tmac or Pippen prematurely.

VCaintdead17
05-26-2013, 02:45 AM
If you don't state your true premise, don't be surprised if people take what you're saying out of context.



He's not a number one, and I'm on the fence on whether or not he's a number two option. He'd be a great 3rd option on offense and can be your second best player on a title team depending on how good your number one is.



I hate "what have you done for me lately" reactions. Can't chu tell? Players can, have and will continue to exceed your expectations and mines. However, I'd rather be surprised that they achieved that level than to declare someone the next Tmac or Pippen prematurely.


Or you ignore both options and go about it in the most truthful, honest way possible which is to say: Who knows what he can achieve. He's only 23. How about we just wait and see. Throw out all of the baseless "future projection" hyperbole and just wait.

For some reason people around here think speaking in absolutes makes you come off as smart or profound. It really just makes you sound arrogant.

Like I said, as of now I don't think he can be a number one, but I have as much of an idea as you or anyone else really which is, no idea.

Goose17
05-26-2013, 02:56 AM
At the very least he's capable of becoming the newest addition to the avengers.

A Black Prophet
05-26-2013, 03:03 AM
I honestly think he can becone a top 5 player he is a better passer then durant and a much better passer and has a betterost game and makes other better he could become the next big thing

A Black Prophet
05-26-2013, 03:06 AM
Agree. I really think he could become a superstar if he keeps on improving. He is still very young (only 22).

Who knows he might be the next best KD is too one demensional

dalton749
05-26-2013, 03:10 AM
holy **** people are dumb
break out in the playoffs?
no
20 on like 40%
hes a good player but far from a first option and a superstar

b@llhog24
05-26-2013, 03:14 AM
Or you ignore both options and go about it in the most truthful, honest way possible which is to say: Who knows what he can achieve. He's only 23. How about we just wait and see. Throw out all of the baseless "future projection" hyperbole and just wait.

I'm balancing it out.


For some reason people around here think speaking in absolutes makes you come off as smart or profound. It really just makes you sound arrogant.


I am arrogant.


Like I said, as of now I don't think he can be a number one, but I have as much of an idea as you or anyone else really which is, no idea.

Projections comes with the territory of being a sports fan.