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JerseyPalahniuk
01-10-2013, 10:30 PM
Please note which player you chose for each team, especially where its not obvious.

For some teams (Chicago, Dallas, Minnesota), we've already seen what the teams are like without their star player.

bucketss
01-10-2013, 10:34 PM
grizz - zbo
clippers
thunder
spurs - parker or duncan

east:

bulls
heat
bucks - ellis
knicks

tredigs
01-10-2013, 10:42 PM
Grizz and Nuggets would be best in the west. I'm not even sure who you'd remove from either team. But personally I think Gasol is the Grizz best player.

JasonJohnHorn
01-10-2013, 10:56 PM
Well... I honestly thinks the Thunder would still be among the top teams in the league without Durant. I think Ibaka could score more, Martin and Westbrooks would still be a great back-crout, and they got some good players coming off the bench.

The Heat I think would struggle to make the playoffs.

The Knicks... well... they have been playing all year without Amare, so we've seen what they can accomplish with an all-star missing from the line-up.

And the Clippers I think would struggle to make the playoffs without CP3... I mean, he is so important to what they do there.

Sportfan
01-10-2013, 10:58 PM
Lakers. Nets. Heat.

Hardaway Here
01-10-2013, 11:04 PM
Well... I honestly thinks the Thunder would still be among the top teams in the league without Durant. I think Ibaka could score more, Martin and Westbrooks would still be a great back-crout, and they got some good players coming off the bench.

The Heat I think would struggle to make the playoffs.

The Knicks... well... they have been playing all year without Amare, so we've seen what they can accomplish with an all-star missing from the line-up.

And the Clippers I think would struggle to make the playoffs without CP3... I mean, he is so important to what they do there.

Thunder would be good. Knicks so so imo. I don't think Clippers would struggle with a healthy Chauncey. The Heat wouldn't struggle to make playoffs without Lebron. They might not win it all but they would make it. Wade took a bunch of rookies to the playoffs. It was a first round exit, but to the playoffs nonetheless

nolin
01-10-2013, 11:05 PM
East

1. Pacers- There without granger and still are on top of their division.

2. Bulls- Record without rose over the last year is suprisingly good.

3.Knicks- Melo think they have enough depth to stay in the #3 spot.

4.Celtics- UMMM think im going with rondo. hes there most valuable player, but i think their deserving of the 4th spot.


West

1.Memphis- Randolph they got a well balanced team was a toss up between them and clipps though.

2.clippers- CP3, lucky for them they would still have bledsoe to run the show, the best backup pg right now without a doubt.

3. Lakers- Kobe, believe it or not they would be a top 4 team in the west, maybe they get a little more ball movement

4.spurs- tony parker. yep over tim duncan at this point. tony keeps the spurs going.

ManRam
01-10-2013, 11:23 PM
1. Chicago - Rose...Elite defense...just enough scoring
2. Indy - Granger
3. Celtics - Pierce (?)
4. Atlanta - Smoove
5. Heat...lack of depth and floor general cripples them

I think New York would be decent, but JR and Raymond as 1 options is terrifying.

West

1. Memphis - ZBo
2. Thunder - Durant
3. San Antonio - Parker
4. Nuggets - IDK
5. Clippers - Paul (Still have tremendous depth...but CP3 is invaluable)

Those 5 are really hard to differentiate. Not much separating 1-5 at all.

JerseyPalahniuk
01-11-2013, 10:51 AM
grizz - zbo
clippers
thunder
spurs - parker or duncan

east:

bulls
heat
bucks - ellis
knicks


Ellis is not the buck's best player. They would be lost without Jennings. Perimeter players would just have to swarm Ellis and without a legitimate low post option, they wouldn't be near team they are now.


Well... I honestly thinks the Thunder would still be among the top teams in the league without Durant. I think Ibaka could score more, Martin and Westbrooks would still be a great back-crout, and they got some good players coming off the bench.

The Heat I think would struggle to make the playoffs.

The Knicks... well... they have been playing all year without Amare, so we've seen what they can accomplish with an all-star missing from the line-up.

And the Clippers I think would struggle to make the playoffs without CP3... I mean, he is so important to what they do there.

Actually started this thread with the Knicks in mind while watching them play the Pacers. They had 66 points with 2:31 left in the game. I think they're team is built around Melo's offense and without him, they would struggle offensively. Yes, it was the Pacers who they were playing but I've seen the same struggles when they played without him in other games (excep against the Heat haha)

And like others said, the Clippers would be solid with Chauncey starting and Bledsoe as a backup.

Monta is beast
01-11-2013, 01:29 PM
East

1. Pacers- There without granger and still are on top of their division.

2. Bulls- Record without rose over the last year is suprisingly good.

3.Knicks- Melo think they have enough depth to stay in the #3 spot.

4.Celtics- UMMM think im going with rondo. hes there most valuable player, but i think their deserving of the 4th spot.


West

1.Memphis- Randolph they got a well balanced team was a toss up between them and clipps though.

2.clippers- CP3, lucky for them they would still have bledsoe to run the show, the best backup pg right now without a doubt.

3. Lakers- Kobe, believe it or not they would be a top 4 team in the west, maybe they get a little more ball movement

4.spurs- tony parker. yep over tim duncan at this point. tony keeps the spurs going.

Jarret Jack: 11.9 PPG - 5 APG - 3.2 RPG - 0.8 SPG

Eric Bledsoe: 8.6 PPG - 2.6 APG - 2.7 RPG - 1.5 SPG

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 01:36 PM
bulls
indy
heat
celtics

grizz
clippers
okc
spurs

nickdymez
01-11-2013, 01:38 PM
Jarret Jack: 11.9 PPG - 5 APG - 3.2 RPG - 0.8 SPG

Eric Bledsoe: 8.6 PPG - 2.6 APG - 2.7 RPG - 1.5 SPG

These stats dont count because they are "Caveman" stats... So you have no argument. :rolleyes:

JerseyPalahniuk
01-11-2013, 02:10 PM
Jarret Jack: 11.9 PPG - 5 APG - 3.2 RPG - 0.8 SPG

Eric Bledsoe: 8.6 PPG - 2.6 APG - 2.7 RPG - 1.5 SPG


Jack: 27.7 MPG
Bledsoe: 18.2 MPG

Jack would get less minutes too if he was backing up the best point guard in the league and playing with a 6th man of the year candidate.

PER36: using your same stats

Jack: 15.5 PPG, 6.5 APG, 4.2 RPG, 1.1 SPG,
Bled: 17.0 PPG, 5.1 APG, 5.3 RPG, 3.0 SPG,

If you include shooting percentages, Jack is better. If you include defensive impact, however, Bledsoe is muc better.

JerseyPalahniuk
01-11-2013, 02:13 PM
bulls
indy
heat
celtics

grizz
clippers
okc
spurs

Who are you saying for the Celtics? I would say Garnett, and they are awful without him.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:23 PM
Bulls (no Rose)
Pacers (no George)
Hawks (no Horford)
Heat (no LeBron)

Grizzlies (no ZBo)
Warriors (no Curry)
Clippers (no CP3)
Blazers (no Aldridge)

JerseyPalahniuk
01-11-2013, 03:31 PM
Bulls (no Rose)
Pacers (no George)
Hawks (no Horford)
Heat (no LeBron)

Grizzlies (no ZBo)
Warriors (no Curry)
Clippers (no CP3)
Blazers (no Aldridge)

Agree with East, maybe not the order as well as your top 3 West teams (and the order) but Blazers? Without Aldridge they have NO legitimate inside scoring option. Blazers have one of the worst benches in the league, forcing their starters to play 35-40 minutes a game.

LJEATON26
01-11-2013, 03:48 PM
East -
New York - No Melo
Atlanta - No Horford
Chicago - No Rose
Indiana - No George

West
Clippers - No Paul
Thunder - No Durant
Grizz - No Randolph
Spurs - Parker

Alayla
01-11-2013, 08:21 PM
Jarret Jack: 11.9 PPG - 5 APG - 3.2 RPG - 0.8 SPG

Eric Bledsoe: 8.6 PPG - 2.6 APG - 2.7 RPG - 1.5 SPG

Bledsoe is an elite Defender and im as big of a jack fan as anyone but id take Bledsoe

Alayla
01-11-2013, 08:22 PM
East

1. Pacers- There without granger and still are on top of their division.

2. Bulls- Record without rose over the last year is suprisingly good.

3.Knicks- Melo think they have enough depth to stay in the #3 spot.

4.Celtics- UMMM think im going with rondo. hes there most valuable player, but i think their deserving of the 4th spot.


West

1.Memphis- Randolph they got a well balanced team was a toss up between them and clipps though.

2.clippers- CP3, lucky for them they would still have bledsoe to run the show, the best backup pg right now without a doubt.

3. Lakers- Kobe, believe it or not they would be a top 4 team in the west, maybe they get a little more ball movement

4.spurs- tony parker. yep over tim duncan at this point. tony keeps the spurs going.

Im sorry but without Cp3 the clippers wouldn't be the best of anything in fact they may barely make the playoffs.