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SteBO
01-10-2013, 06:30 PM
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Location: Bankers Life Fieldhouse, IND
Time: 8:00 PM ET



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Location: Sleep Train Arena, SAC
Time: 10:00 PM ET



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Location: Rose Garden, POR
Time: 10:30 PM ET


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PleaseBeNice
01-10-2013, 06:43 PM
Come on SACRAMENTO

SportsFanatic10
01-10-2013, 06:56 PM
pacers
mavs
heat

StarvingKnick22
01-10-2013, 07:46 PM
The Heat and Knicks will lose.

StarvingKnick22
01-10-2013, 07:50 PM
The Kings have made a lot of surprises this season.

Vinny642
01-10-2013, 08:00 PM
Sleep Train?

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 08:10 PM
Pacers have an easy one tonight, Miami has an easy one tonight and Mavs vs Kings is boring.

BIG worm
01-10-2013, 08:21 PM
Pacers,Kings,Blazers all get the dub-ya

kdspurman
01-10-2013, 08:21 PM
Home team sweep.

BTW, I'm looking forward to seeing if the TNT guys talk about the whole honey nut cheerios stuff. That should be comical

SteBO
01-10-2013, 08:23 PM
Lillard is probably going to eat us alive tonight......

PacersForLife
01-10-2013, 08:25 PM
I have a feeling we'll underestimate the Knicks without Melo.

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 09:26 PM
is Hibbert still better than Lopez?

bklynny67
01-10-2013, 09:28 PM
is Hibbert still better than Lopez?

Is DMF still the biggest homer/annoying poster on PSD?

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 09:29 PM
Is DMF still the biggest homer/annoying poster on PSD?

I dont care if im a homer, Im a net fan I dont need to give any other team credit.

29$JerZ
01-10-2013, 09:30 PM
is Hibbert still better than Lopez?

Nets aren't playing to tonight. And it doesn't matter, everyone knows the answer to this and yours.

bklynny67
01-10-2013, 09:35 PM
I dont care if im a homer, Im a net fan I dont need to give any other team credit.

But you also call yourself a Heat fan. LOL you can't be both. Maybe you're just a fareweather Heat fan I guess.

gotoHcarolina52
01-10-2013, 09:39 PM
"YOU shoot a brick. YOU shoot a brick. You shoot a brick. EVERYBODY. SHOOTS. A. BRICK"

- Oprah narrating tonight's Pacers-Knicks game. (http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Oprahs-Entire-Audience-Are-Surprised-with-New-Cars-Video)

tredigs
01-10-2013, 09:40 PM
Great D Amare. Hahaha

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 09:41 PM
Is Copeland the 2nd option on the Knicks? and 1st option when Melo plays? omg

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 09:43 PM
Joe Johnson > Amare by far!!

tredigs
01-10-2013, 09:48 PM
Joe Johnson > Amare by far!!

They both suck. Move on.

shep33
01-10-2013, 09:48 PM
You know a game is bad when Marcus Camby at age 67 is the leading scorer

29$JerZ
01-10-2013, 10:04 PM
Game of the Year

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 10:07 PM
Game of the Year

Melo needs help he doesnt have a supporting cast he has about the same supporting cast Lebron had in cleveland. No go to guys.

SirSkyHook
01-10-2013, 10:07 PM
Im watching the knicks play and im getting jealous. Their offence is so off but theyer in this game becuase of defence. Hard nose defence. Their smashing the glass, throwing players out of bounds, and rejecting kats. It's beautiful.

Dantoni watch this and you'll see why this guy took your job.

29$JerZ
01-10-2013, 10:10 PM
Melo needs help he doesnt have a supporting cast he has about the same supporting cast Lebron had in cleveland. No go to guys.

He has a decent amount of help, a lot of them are injured however.
Team will turn around when Shumpert is back to play with Melo as opposed to Brewer. We need Felton back too, teams can defend us easier since Pablo and Kidd can't create shots for themselves.

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 10:11 PM
Im watching the knicks play and im getting jealous. Their offence is so off but theyer in this game becuase of defence. Hard nose defence. Their smashing the glass, throwing players out of bounds, and rejecting kats. It's beautiful.

Dantoni watch this and you'll see why this guy took your job.

They arent even top 15 in defense

bklynny67
01-10-2013, 10:16 PM
They arent even top 15 in defense

can you stop talkin **** about the Knicks and their players literally with every post.... i mean come on, you're ridiculous. Your mediocre Nets aren't even playing tonight.

SirSkyHook
01-10-2013, 10:21 PM
They arent even top 15 in defense

They are for the most part winning and theyer not bottom 2 in defence lol.
With a 3x DPOY lol........................

........ i laugh because it hurts lol

Max.This
01-10-2013, 10:26 PM
there no flow to the offense because we don't have a pg in that is less than 35 years old. Felton usually allows for our shooters to get better looks because he is younger. We've won games without Melo and thats only because we still had Felton to facilitate. Copeland barely sees the floor. To be honest it really doesnt even matter if copeland is, what matters is who wins the game. You have no right to troll us when we stomped your ***. New York belongs to the knicks and you aint got **** to say otherwise

Nyc4You
01-10-2013, 10:33 PM
Chuck sippin on that Hatorade :facepalm:

mets100%
01-10-2013, 10:39 PM
DMF thinks the Nets are so awesome because they beat the bad teams only.

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 10:45 PM
granger is gone

NYJ - NYY
01-10-2013, 10:48 PM
We don't look good right now... We are missing melo and Felton and sheed to an extent so it's kinda understandable but still we gotta get something going and the pacers are a sickkkkk team bulls defense 2.0 but need a little help on O

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 10:52 PM
A 100% healthy Shump would love this game.

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 10:54 PM
hibbert has to be one of the worst contracts this off season, that and illysova

ohreally
01-10-2013, 10:55 PM
DMF thinks the Nets are so awesome because they beat the bad teams only.

How many times have the Knicks won at OKC? Nets had a terrible December and they're 1 game out of 3rd in the east, 3.5 behind the Knicks. Boston is basically coming out of training camp. Chicago is getting Rose back, though it remains to be seen how much of Rose. Bucks are in good position for making a trade. Even the Wizards are getting to what could be a good team in the 2nd half.

Season is young yet.

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-10-2013, 10:55 PM
hibbert has to be one of the worst contracts this off season, that and illysova

And everyone on here said he was worlds better than Brook Lopez... About that.

NYJ - NYY
01-10-2013, 10:56 PM
Jr is smooooooooth

NYJ - NYY
01-10-2013, 10:57 PM
Nets aren't even playing and this game thread has nothing to do with them yeah ur doing well be right now be humble I know it's hard but it can change fast young season but pj seems like a good coach

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 11:02 PM
Amare gets his shot blocked every game

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:05 PM
this is some real **** ball offense by both teams.

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:13 PM
Indy is so lucky we don't have Melo. They'd been blown out tonight badly.

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:14 PM
manly block by Roy! but you are done.

Ezio
01-10-2013, 11:14 PM
That steal by George... why wasn't it kicked ball?

PacersForLife
01-10-2013, 11:15 PM
Indy is so lucky we don't have Melo. They'd been blown out tonight badly.

Lol.

Ever heard of Danny Granger?

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:15 PM
Indy is so lucky we don't have Melo. They'd been blown out tonight badly.

sure :rolleyes:

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 11:16 PM
Woodson does everything he can to not play Ronnie Brewer

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:19 PM
George doing work

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 11:20 PM
Wonder how long Knick fans will keep standing up and cheering for Amare when he comes in. Guy looks like a vet min guy. No defense, no explosion, and his offense isnt good anymore.

Tmath
01-10-2013, 11:21 PM
JR Smith 8-23 :puke:

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:21 PM
Lol.

Ever heard of Danny Granger?

Ever heard of IDGAF. Melo would own Danny boy.:cool:

Max.This
01-10-2013, 11:22 PM
We gonna be fine . No point guard, down our best player , down less than 10. I consider that a solid effort

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 11:23 PM
Chandler and Amare two of the 3 highest paid players cant take over games or create for themselves.

grkmaster
01-10-2013, 11:24 PM
Wonder how long Knick fans will keep standing up and cheering for Amare when he comes in. Guy looks like a vet min guy. No defense, no explosion, and his offense isnt good anymore.

I wonder how long you're going to be posting. You sound like a hater.. No defense, no good retaliation, repeating the same crap and failing and your posts are never good..

PacersForLife
01-10-2013, 11:26 PM
Ever heard of IDGAF. Melo would own Danny boy.:cool:

I thought we were talking about Pacers vs. Knicks here. I have no doubt that Melo could outscore Danny.

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:26 PM
Wonder how long Knick fans will keep standing up and cheering for Amare when he comes in. Guy looks like a vet min guy. No defense, no explosion, and his offense isnt good anymore.

his jumper is so off

grkmaster
01-10-2013, 11:27 PM
Ever heard of IDGAF. Melo would own Danny boy.:cool:

I thought we were talking about Pacers vs. Knicks here. I have no doubt that Melo could outscore Danny.
Definitely would be a way better game if Melo was playing /if both were playing!

Max.This
01-10-2013, 11:27 PM
Why does granger matter . Remember last year when they said Knicks were an easy win and we torched em .... Twice in a row back to back

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:27 PM
I thought we were talking about Pacers vs. Knicks here. I have no doubt that Melo could outscore Danny.

We are. If Melo were playing tonight we'd be up by 15 or 20 pts. your team offense is so inconsistant.

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 11:27 PM
Jason Kidd 1 assist what is going on with him?

Tmath
01-10-2013, 11:29 PM
Jason Kidd 1 assist what is going on with him?

JR Smith is going 1 on 5

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:30 PM
Hekneeme is better in the post than Hibbert and West.

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:30 PM
t on chandler lol. knicks losing their composure again.

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:30 PM
Hekneeme is better in the post than Hibbert and West.

lol...mahini

PacersForLife
01-10-2013, 11:31 PM
We are. If Melo were playing tonight we'd be up by 15 or 20 pts. your team offense is so inconsistant.

That's what defense is for, pal.

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:31 PM
indy having their way

LongIslandIcedZ
01-10-2013, 11:31 PM
Melo is sorely missed this game.

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 11:32 PM
28 shots to get 22 points!!! OMG

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:32 PM
Melo is sorely missed this game.

indy's defense is really good. melo would just be shooting the same inefficient shots that JR is.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
01-10-2013, 11:33 PM
Knicks are shooting 32.9% and the Pacers are shooting 38.7%. Probably the ugliest TNT game of the season so far.

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:33 PM
lol...mahini

That's what I said... hekneeme. :cool:

Hardaway Here
01-10-2013, 11:33 PM
Both the offenses look stale but Knicks jus let JR chuck it away lol. What is he 8-28 now

grkmaster
01-10-2013, 11:34 PM
28 shots to get 22 points!!! OMG
No body else can score... There's no offense coming from nobody.. Your boy Joe Johnson has had worse

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:34 PM
indy's defense is really good. melo would just be shooting the same inefficient shots that JR is.

who would contain Melo on that team, Granger?:rolleyes:

LongIslandIcedZ
01-10-2013, 11:35 PM
indy's defense is really good. melo would just be shooting the same inefficient shots that JR is.

lol if you say so.

GoPacers33
01-10-2013, 11:35 PM
People are talking about how bad this game is while we Pacers fans are used to these type of games. Haha

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:35 PM
wow. mahini>tyson

Max.This
01-10-2013, 11:36 PM
indy's defense is really good. melo would just be shooting the same inefficient shots that JR is.

Maybe , maybe not but Melo is a much better scorer. It's not even him that I want to play. I'd rather have Felton because he can drive and penetrate.

Hardaway Here
01-10-2013, 11:37 PM
they making a run to late

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:37 PM
Hekneeme is good. But Marv w/ his JR Smith is 10 for 29....homie you saw Kobe do the same thing and said nothing.

DoMeFavors
01-10-2013, 11:38 PM
No body else can score... There's no offense coming from nobody.. Your boy Joe Johnson has had worse

not this season, dont know if you watch net games. but he has been great.

jam
01-10-2013, 11:38 PM
The knicks are getting crushed by an indiana team playing without granger or even hibbert much of the way.

poleandreel
01-10-2013, 11:38 PM
30 shots for an inefficient bench player :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::l augh2::laugh2::laugh2:

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:39 PM
terrible d there by the knicks

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:40 PM
amare padding his stats lol

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:42 PM
the knicks officially suck


they are just really injured. but the knicks D has to be a concern.

tough stretch of games coming up for them

GoPacers33
01-10-2013, 11:42 PM
Paul George needs to be an Allstar. 22,11,6,5 :)

Hardaway Here
01-10-2013, 11:43 PM
Paul George liked being called the face of the franchise. He had to hear it twice

PacersForLife
01-10-2013, 11:45 PM
All the comments about "No Melo" is exactly why I was disappointed that he was gonna be out.

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:45 PM
Paul George liked being called the face of the franchise. He had to hear it twice

this.

justinnum1
01-10-2013, 11:45 PM
Paul George liked being called the face of the franchise. He had to hear it twice
they are better without granger.

PacersForLife
01-10-2013, 11:50 PM
they are better without granger.

We'll see when he gets back.

Paul was afraid to assert himself before Danny got injured. They both know what Paul is capable of now and I don't know if it will be that big of an issue.

KniCks4LiFe
01-10-2013, 11:51 PM
We'll see when he gets back.

Paul was afraid to assert himself before Danny got injured. They both know what Paul is capable of now and I don't know if it will be that big of an issue.

I'll say it for you. Danny needs to sit the f down and shoot when George tells him to.

You still not beating us.

Hardaway Here
01-10-2013, 11:56 PM
cb and his 3s

jam
01-10-2013, 11:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYK_kidd77
Jesus everyone relax, the world isn't ending. Did anyone see who is playing for us right now? Even if we played .500 ball for the rest of the year we would finish with over 50 wins.

LMAO. :facepalm:

BoilerMan013
01-11-2013, 12:00 AM
I'll say it for you. Danny needs to sit the f down and shoot when George tells him to.

You still not beating us.

You're right, it's inconceivable the Pacers could ever beat the Knicks. :cricket:

jam
01-11-2013, 12:00 AM
Knicks fans are nowhere to be found.

Championship! EC champs! Carmela for MVP! Kidd the greatest PG of all time! JR's an all star! Chandler starts as all star C! Jesus.

29$JerZ
01-11-2013, 12:01 AM
Knicks fans are nowhere to be found.

Championship! EC champs! Carmela for MVP! Kidd the greatest PG of all time! JR's an all star! Chandler starts as all star C! Jesus.

Majority of us are in the Knick forum, the place you are banished from.

29$JerZ
01-11-2013, 12:02 AM
they are just really injured. but the knicks D has to be a concern.

tough stretch of games coming up for them

Having Kidd/Pablo on defense for these large stretches is starting to take its toll.
We need Felton/Shumpert back in a hurry.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:04 AM
Having Kidd/Pablo on defense for these large stretches is starting to take its toll.
We need Felton/Shumpert back in a hurry.

I want Felton's defense not his shooting. :(

29$JerZ
01-11-2013, 12:06 AM
Camby limping badly in locker room right now.
Just what we need

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 12:08 AM
Marcus Camby limping badly in th locker room. There are crutches against the wall. They likely are for Camby.

wow.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 12:08 AM
bosh having a damn good game so far. surprisingly

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:08 AM
Knicks fans are nowhere to be found.

Championship! EC champs! Carmela for MVP! Kidd the greatest PG of all time! JR's an all star! Chandler starts as all star C! Jesus.

Homie you serious w/ that stuff?

We can win a ship' this year. Melo mi...well no he's not winning the MVP aslong as LeBron breathes. Kidd is one of the greatest PGs of all time. JR Smith actually is an allstar. Chandler is an allstar too. You need Jesus if you can't see that.

DoMeFavors
01-11-2013, 12:10 AM
I actually feel bad for the Knick fans they thought their team was at a championship level when they got off to that hot start, now they cant be excited that much anymore because Knicks are showing who they really are a .500 1st round exit team. It would have been cool to have a close race in the east but its only a 2 way race now. The team was badly constructed to old and the players are getting injured now and the depth is gone.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:11 AM
Just what we need

saw it coming. You know what that means. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sFZrqxLg-E

29$JerZ
01-11-2013, 12:12 AM
Woodson confirmed it was same old Camby injury - plantar fasciitis which cost him 12 games earlier.

Damn

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:13 AM
Father time is calling Ray :facepalm:

jam
01-11-2013, 12:16 AM
I actually feel bad for the Knick fans they thought their team was at a championship level when they got off to that hot start, now they cant be excited that much anymore because Knicks are showing who they really are a .500 1st round exit team. It would have been cool to have a close race in the east but its only a 2 way race now. The team was badly constructed to old and the players are getting injured now and the depth is gone.

I thought the knicks would win 47-49 games, and if they got hot, perhaps 52. I also predicted that carmela would have a temper tantrum at some sort, come unglued, and perhaps cause a team implosion that would ultimately send them to the lottery.

I stick to my predictions. Most likely, this team wins 48 games or so, and if all is aligned, exits the playoffs in the second round.

But with testy carmela, he could start pointing fingers, planting the seeds of dissension with his silver, split tongue and pull everyone down with him.

Hardaway Here
01-11-2013, 12:21 AM
gave up 4 str8 3s smh

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 12:23 AM
bosh having a hell of a game so far

MTL_123
01-11-2013, 12:25 AM
Homie you serious w/ that stuff?

We can win a ship' this year. Melo mi...well no he's not winning the MVP aslong as LeBron breathes. Kidd is one of the greatest PGs of all time. JR Smith actually is an allstar. Chandler is an allstar too. You need Jesus if you can't see that.

damn your sig :drool:

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:26 AM
bosh having a hell of a game so far

B/c he's playing w/ the 2nd unit. When he plays w/ Bron' and Wade on the floor at the same time, he can't be the player he is at the post. He has to space out to the FT line, like Gasol w/ the Lakers. That's not his game, his game is the post, the paint.

BoilerMan013
01-11-2013, 12:30 AM
Homie you serious w/ that stuff?

We can win a ship' this year. Melo mi...well no he's not winning the MVP aslong as LeBron breathes. Kidd is one of the greatest PGs of all time. JR Smith actually is an allstar. Chandler is an allstar too. You need Jesus if you can't see that.

Paul George is scoring .2 ppg less than JR Smith...

But he's got more rebounds, more assissts, more steals, more blocks, better FG%, better FT%, better 3PT%, and no 'Melo to play off of.

Is there room for both?

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 12:33 AM
nasty block

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 12:33 AM
B/c he's playing w/ the 2nd unit. When he plays w/ Bron' and Wade on the floor at the same time, he can't be the player he is at the post. He has to space out to the FT line, like Gasol w/ the Lakers. That's not his game, his game is the post, the paint.

guess you werent watching the beggining of this game

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:35 AM
Paul George is scoring .2 ppg less than JR Smith...

But he's got more rebounds, more assissts, more steals, more blocks, better FG%, better FT%, better 3PT%, and no 'Melo to play off of.

Is there room for both?

JR's been averaging those numbers coming off the bench. I never said PG wasn't an allstar.

ugh! I hate this Melo commercial is a joke. Is this me, is this Melo from RedHook, it's like if ARod said he were from NY. Just stop.:facepalm:

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:38 AM
guess you werent watching the beggining of this game

Yes I was. Bosh started becoming a factor as they stopped penetrating. Bosh is better when both Wade and LeBron don't play on the floor at the same time. B/c if Bosh is there w/ 2 frequent penetrating guards in the paint then it negates driving into the paint for Bron or Wade.:rolleyes:

BoilerMan013
01-11-2013, 12:43 AM
JR's been averaging those numbers coming off the bench. I never said PG wasn't an allstar.

ugh! I hate this Melo commercial is a joke. Is this me, is this Melo from RedHook, it's like if ARod said he were from NY. Just stop.:facepalm:

Bench argument is kind of irrelevant since JR averages over 33 mins haha. My point was more that they may run out of spots and PG has been playing well. Plus he just had 2 great games in the row against Miami and New York as West has struggled to score, so he's been getting lots of coverage.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:45 AM
Bench argument is kind of irrelevant since JR averages over 33 mins haha. My point was more that they may run out of spots and PG has been playing well. Plus he just had 2 great games in the row against Miami and New York as West has struggled to score, so he's been getting lots of coverage.

you failed to tell me when I said he isn't an allstar. He is.

Knick_Fever
01-11-2013, 12:48 AM
I actually feel bad for the Knick fans they thought their team was at a championship level when they got off to that hot start, now they cant be excited that much anymore because Knicks are showing who they really are a .500 1st round exit team. It would have been cool to have a close race in the east but its only a 2 way race now. The team was badly constructed to old and the players are getting injured now and the depth is gone.

Shump and Felton are not old. And we were doing our most damage without Camby. The fact is that we own the Nets, and hope to face them in the playoffs, a nice warmup for the Knicks. :)

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 12:49 AM
I'm gonna be honest POR played scared that 1st half.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 12:51 AM
not a bad first half

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 12:52 AM
I'm gonna be honest POR played scared that 1st half.

thats probably the first time miami played like they gave a **** in a long time. only other games i saw that intensity this season was okc, and opening night.

bklynny67
01-11-2013, 12:56 AM
I actually feel bad for the Knick fans they thought their team was at a championship level when they got off to that hot start, now they cant be excited that much anymore because Knicks are showing who they really are a .500 1st round exit team. It would have been cool to have a close race in the east but its only a 2 way race now. The team was badly constructed to old and the players are getting injured now and the depth is gone.

LOL coming from a Nets fan... the Nets will be lucky to win 1 playoff game at all this yr. Seriously, the Nets have nothing on the Knicks once the playoffs start if both teams are at full strength and health. The Nets literally have no chance at a title this yr. At least the Knicks do. It might not be a GREAT chance, but at least they have a chance.

Knick_Fever
01-11-2013, 01:12 AM
thats probably the first time miami played like they gave a **** in a long time. only other games i saw that intensity this season was okc, and opening night.

Its not about giving a **** or not. Like Chris Bosh said, its not that the team isnt giving the effort, they give it every game. Teams are doing a lot better of a job matching their game speed, which of course Miami is best at. On another note, I think Chris Bosh in my opinion is the best PF in the game, he's absolutely lethal. That plays perfectly for the Heat because teams sleep on him.

gotoHcarolina52
01-11-2013, 01:17 AM
Wesson is beasting tonight. Wow.

Longhornfan1234
01-11-2013, 01:28 AM
Is LeBron hurt? Wade needs to quit taking bad shots :facepalm:

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 01:48 AM
Is LeBron hurt? Wade needs to quit taking bad shots :facepalm:

get a life dude, lebron has taken 4 threes to wades zero and 4 tos to wades 0. maybe talk about that for once lol.

STL Don
01-11-2013, 01:51 AM
LBJ with the jumper.

meloman1592
01-11-2013, 02:00 AM
batuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum

Longhornfan1234
01-11-2013, 02:00 AM
Typical Wade.... He has a knack for turning the ball over when it matters most. :facepalm:

Longhornfan1234
01-11-2013, 02:02 AM
get a life dude, lebron has taken 4 threes to wades zero and 4 tos to wades 0. maybe talk about that for once lol.

LeBron is hurt. Wade is settling for too many jumpers. We all know Wade is border line pathetic when he starts jump shooting.

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 02:03 AM
ray nice!

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:05 AM
We got a game here!

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:05 AM
I told you they were playing scared.

Batum the hot hand, why isn't the ball in his hands?

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 02:05 AM
LeBron is hurt. Wade is settling for too many jumpers. We all know Wade is border line pathetic when he starts jump shooting.

lol whatever you say, your a lost cause when it comes to your pathetic hate for wade in order to praise lebron.

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 02:06 AM
bosh having himself a night.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:07 AM
Haslem on the PnR made that play. It's sad POR doesn't really have a center.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:08 AM
POR just doesn't get the ball to the clutch shooting Batum? this is on the PG.

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:08 AM
Hickson is a dumb*** Why did he force that!!!

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 02:08 AM
damn, thought ray would make both of those for sure.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:09 AM
Hickson is a dumb*** Why did he force that!!!

better question, why is the first handoff to the cold shooting bigs right now?

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:09 AM
Ray missing a Free Throw in crunch time??? Im hallucinating!!!

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:10 AM
better question, why is the first handoff to the cold shooting bigs right now?

I agree... Dumb as ****

By the way i'd bang Miss Nike

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:10 AM
Batum is the hot man and people don't know how to get him the ball till they're down by 3 :facepalm:

gotoHcarolina52
01-11-2013, 02:11 AM
Like a mother****ing BOSH

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:11 AM
Big shot by Wesley. Better answer by MIA

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:11 AM
Nice pass by Lebron... Still hate him though

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:12 AM
oh **** Matthews turned on the legend button!

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:12 AM
Wes is stroking!!!

gotoHcarolina52
01-11-2013, 02:12 AM
Fire Spolestron!!!!!

DrDre94
01-11-2013, 02:12 AM
Damn Matthews!

meloman1592
01-11-2013, 02:12 AM
#westape

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:13 AM
#Westape

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 02:13 AM
crazy game.

DrDre94
01-11-2013, 02:14 AM
Missed FT's might kill Portland. We'll see...

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:14 AM
if MIA misses here and they can't get the rebound, you know what everyone will say.

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:14 AM
If the heat hit a three I might break my computer...

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 02:14 AM
Missed FT's might kill Portland. We'll see...

they might kill miami too...missed 6 fts tonight

meloman1592
01-11-2013, 02:16 AM
#blazetape

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:16 AM
Let me guess... #FireSpoelstra

gotoHcarolina52
01-11-2013, 02:16 AM
Streamers! Hoes! High Fives! Loud music! :dance:

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-11-2013, 02:16 AM
People will blame that on Lebron but Mario should have hit that shot.

DrDre94
01-11-2013, 02:16 AM
they might kill miami too...missed 6 fts tonight

True. I wasn't expecting Allen to miss that last one.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 02:16 AM
lol. good game portland

STL Don
01-11-2013, 02:16 AM
Chalmers had a good look, didn't expect him to take that last shot.

Wesley Mathews came up huge with big 3's. Trail Blazers are rollin'

Longhornfan1234
01-11-2013, 02:16 AM
This loss is on Wade; missed two gimme shots and had a killer TO.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:17 AM
#Westape! that fool found legend juice on the bench.

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 02:17 AM
People will blame that on Lebron but Mario should have hit that shot.

and allen should of made the wide open 3 and the 2nd ft just before that as well.

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:17 AM
People will blame that on Lebron but Mario should have hit that shot.

You cant get a better look than that.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 02:19 AM
he missed a good look. cant ask for much more. miami played sloppy the second half.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:21 AM
that was not on LeBron one bit. Ray Ray misses FTs, Bron gets a stop, IDK who was covering Wesley Matthews but he just wasn't missing. (that dude is clutch) I almost want to read his clutch stats after this b/c every time I watch a Blazers game he hits a big clutch shot.

Oh and like I said, POR just played scared in the 1st half, that was it. They stopped Bron and Wade's penetration when they had to.

Tony_Starks
01-11-2013, 02:22 AM
Matthews is slept on. Not just offensively but defensively......

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:23 AM
Lillard did everything he could not to win that game, Hickson and Aldrige followed suit, Matthews and Batum just said, no win for you.

Ezio
01-11-2013, 02:24 AM
Allen and Chalmers both missed wide open 3s.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:26 AM
Cousins didn't mean that. Damn VC slept quicker than Manny.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 02:27 AM
windhorst
Heat have split their last 10 games and picked up ground on Knicks in that span. Life in the East. Tho Indy is lurking now.

crazy. indy might get the 2nd seed.

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:28 AM
I just realized Lebrons 20 point streak is snapped.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:30 AM
Kings need to let go of Cousins. They might ruin his career. He needs a fresh fresh FREEEEEEESSSSSSSSH start.

meloman1592
01-11-2013, 02:32 AM
windhorst

crazy. indy might get the 1st seed.

:clap: fixed

GiantsSwaGG
01-11-2013, 02:32 AM
Great win by the Blazers... Looking like Knicks and Pacers will be one two

Avenged
01-11-2013, 02:32 AM
Cousins strikes again. Literally. :facepalm:

Knick_Fever
01-11-2013, 02:36 AM
Allen and Chalmers both missed wide open 3s.

If the Heat supporting cast arent able to knock down those WIDE open 3's in the playoffs, they arent going far.

fin_frenzy_84
01-11-2013, 02:37 AM
Cousins strikes again. Literally. :facepalm:

He is a dumb***

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:39 AM
Cousins strikes again. Literally. :facepalm:

this is a reputation call he got tonight. It happens but the worse thing is he's somewhere where he won't get it. He needs to get traded. For his own good. B/c he needs to reflect the next part of his career. It happens, you're somewhere you will never get it, you're in a losing enviornment, it happened to Crawford, it happened to JR Smith, it happens to alot of players.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:43 AM
did this fool just say "b/c they don't know about basketball?"

meloman1592
01-11-2013, 02:49 AM
If the Heat supporting cast arent able to knock down those WIDE open 3's in the playoffs, they arent going far.

Same goes for us bro lol

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:53 AM
Same goes for us bro lol

we have the same issues as them plus the perimeter D. We have the depth to get over them though.

OT: damn Lillard almost was the goat in this game. How are you not letting Bosh shoot that shot for the tie which he was inconsistant w/ all night. they are down by 3 and your man Chalmers was left wide open by you for a GW. :facepalm:

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 02:55 AM
we have the same issues as them plus the perimeter D. We have the depth to get over them though.

OT: damn Lillard almost was the goat in this game. How are you not letting Bosh shoot that shot for the tie which he was inconsistant w/ all night. they are down by 3 and your man Chalmers was left wide open by you for a GW. :facepalm:

your team is constantly injured. to think they will be healthy for the playoffs is delusions of grandeur.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 02:58 AM
Great win by the Blazers... Looking like Knicks and Pacers will be two and three

possible. but dont forget the bulls. knicks cant get over their injuries and its starting to affect them plus their offense and defense keep getting worse.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BATSwufCIAAtdsw.jpg:large
it will probably look like

miami
indy
chicago
ny

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 03:03 AM
your team is constantly injured. to think they will be healthy for the playoffs is delusions of grandeur.

Correction the players we expected to be injured have been constantly injured. We didn't go into this season not expecting this. Stat, Sheed, Camby, Thomas...the only unexpected has been Felton who's mediocore at best.

Kidd and Prigioni have done ok. Actually Kidd has done more than expected, PG is no issue.

JR Smith is exceeding expectations, Shump is returning, SG is ok.

SF Novak is ok, IDK if Copeland is for real, I think he's ok, so that's ok.
PF Melo is there, we are fine there, Stat off the bench, actually good depth there
C Chandler, though this is the only spot we need help in.

We are ok and potentially can make a run.

Miami, you have combination problems. You're playing small, your PG position is nonexistant, other than LeBron James and that's the dumbest thing b/c that will wear on him and affect his performance late in games, leaving Wade, Ray or Bosh to have to step it up. Your bench...umm....:confused:

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 03:07 AM
possible. but dont forget the bulls. knicks cant get over their injuries and its starting to affect them plus their offense and defense keep getting worse.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BATSwufCIAAtdsw.jpg:large
it will probably look like

miami
indy
chicago
ny

You have to remember these are the dog days of the NBA. I will admit the biggest problem is Ronnie Brewer he has severly dropped in performance, defensively and offensively.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 03:07 AM
Correction the players we expected to be injured have been constantly injured. We didn't go into this season not expecting this. Stat, Sheed, Camby, Thomas...the only unexpected has been Felton who's mediocore at best.

Kidd and Prigioni have done ok. Actually Kidd has done more than expected, PG is no issue.

JR Smith is exceeding expectations, Shump is returning, SG is ok.

SF Novak is ok, IDK if Copeland is for real, I think he's ok, so that's ok.
PF Melo is there, we are fine there, Stat off the bench, actually good depth there
C Chandler, though this is the only spot we need help in.

We are ok and potentially can make a run.

Miami, you have combination problems. You're playing small, your PG position is nonexistant, other than LeBron James and that's the dumbest thing b/c that will wear on him and affect his performance late in games, leaving Wade, Ray or Bosh to have to step it up. Your bench...umm....:confused:

Mimai played small last year, and went right through the knicks, pacers, celtics and thunder.

Sure the knicks have some more bigs this year, but no one can expect those injury prone players to be healthy for the playoffs. I don't mind having wade as our 2nd option and bosh as our 3rd. I think i will stick with the large majority of analysts favoring miami to come out the east.


You have to remember these are the dog days of the NBA.

ok, but what does that have to do with the downward trends shown in the table i posted?

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 03:15 AM
Mimai played small last year, and went right through the knicks, pacers, celtics and thunder.

Sure the knicks have some more bigs this year, but no one can expect those injury prone players to be healthy for the playoffs. I don't mind having wade as our 2nd option and bosh as our 3rd. I think i will stick with the large majority of analysts favoring miami to come out the east.

but that was last year. You also had better defense/rebounding and spacing, and it was a strike shortened season.

IDK about that. I think Indy is stronger, I think Chicago will make a run, You still haven't beaten us? and I think the Nets under PJ can beat you. The way you guys are playing right now.



ok, but what does that have to do with the downward trends shown in the table i posted?


players around the holidays they just take a break. I don't like it either but it happens. Prior to his injury Felton was screwing up our offense, now Prig and Kidd are overplaying, Brewer has checked out, IDK what happened to him. Him and Kidd were clutch defenders and now it's just Kidd left having to fix the mess until Shump returns. Shump is our Bradley, he's the glue to stopping the penetrating from guards that we keep experiencing, he also helps on the boards.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 03:19 AM
but that was last year. You also had better defense/rebounding and spacing, and it was a strike shortened season.

IDK about that. I think Indy is stronger, I think Chicago will make a run, You still haven't beaten us? and I think the Nets under PJ can beat you. The way you guys are playing right now.




players around the holidays they just take a break. I don't like it either but it happens. Prior to his injury Felton was screwing up our offense, now Prig and Kidd are overplaying, Brewer has checked out, IDK what happened to him. Him and Kidd were clutch defenders and now it's just Kidd left having to fix the mess until Shump returns. Shump is our Bradley, he's the glue to stopping the penetrating from guards that we keep experiencing, he also helps on the boards.

the knicks are not the team they were in the beggining of the season. they were overacheieving. and now they have all types of injuries, even your core players are banged up. some or your most important players are over 35
Nate Taylor@ByNateTaylor

Quick updates: JR Smith was limping, Tyson Chandler has neck pain & Marcus Camby was in a walking boot on crutches.

miami has problems right now, but they can easily be fixed. anyone doubting the heat didnt watch the playoffs last year. its the same team. miami is on a championship hangover. lakers, celtics, and spurs fans know about that.

Sleep on them if you want. The analysts aren't.

Knick_Fever
01-11-2013, 03:26 AM
[QUOTE=justinnum1;25052308]the knicks are not the team they were in the beggining of the season. they were overacheieving. and now they have all types of injuries, even your core players are banged up. some or your most important players are over 35

miami has problems right now, but they can easily be fixed. anyone doubting the heat didnt watch the playoffs last year. its the same team. miami is on a championship hangover. lakers, celtics, and spurs fans know about that.

Sleep on them if you want. The analysts aren't.[/QUO

Dont forget about Dallas.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 03:28 AM
[QUOTE=justinnum1;25052308]the knicks are not the team they were in the beggining of the season. they were overacheieving. and now they have all types of injuries, even your core players are banged up. some or your most important players are over 35

miami has problems right now, but they can easily be fixed. anyone doubting the heat didnt watch the playoffs last year. its the same team. miami is on a championship hangover. lakers, celtics, and spurs fans know about that.

Sleep on them if you want. The analysts aren't.[/QUO

Dont forget about Dallas.

How can i, we got our first championship off them. :)

Knick_Fever
01-11-2013, 03:30 AM
[QUOTE=Knick_Fever;25052323]

How can i, we got our first championship off them. :)

U mean after them. And i was referring to the hangover u spoke of.

Ezio
01-11-2013, 03:36 AM
You have to remember these are the dog days of the NBA. I will admit the biggest problem is Ronnie Brewer he has severly dropped in performance, defensively and offensively.

Which is what most Bulls fans could of told you guys. Bunch of guys wanted to trade KK when Brewer was knocking shots left and right.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 03:38 AM
Which is what most Bulls fans could of told you guys. Bunch of guys wanted to trade KK when Brewer was knocking shots left and right.

the thing is I heard that too, but he was still leading in all the defensive categories, but having seen it now, he just he loses motivation easily. Half ***** his D.

GiantsSwaGG
01-11-2013, 04:16 AM
possible. but dont forget the bulls. Knicks cant get over their injuries and its starting to affect them plus their offense and defense keep getting worse. But they did beat the heat easily with those injuries
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BATSwufCIAAtdsw.jpg:large
it will probably look like

Ny
indy
chicago
Miami

I agree...

shep33
01-11-2013, 04:41 AM
The one criticism I have about the Heat is actually a compliment to LeBron... the dude has to do everything on that squad. He's an absolute freak of nature, but you have to worry about him doing too much. I remember a quote by Lamar Odom describing Kobe in his prime, and the same can be said about Jordan, Hakeem, Ewing etc. Lamar said that "Kobe is so good, that he gives the team bad habits".

I don't want this to be a Kobe vs. LBJ debate because I think it's pretty obvious that LBJ has been the superior player for years. The quote however seems to reflect some of the problems going on in Miami. It's almost like guys take nights off and are like "LeBron can handle it"...

I just think Bosh can help out on the boards more and Wade can maybe help with some play making. The bench has to step it up big time too, cause outside of Ray, nobody is dong anything.

Miami should be fine, I still think they're the team to beat in the NBA, but guys have to take pressure off of LBJ. He's so good that you can depend on him to a fault.

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 05:05 AM
U mean after them. And i was referring to the hangover u spoke of.

he was talking about 06...

NYJ - NYY
01-11-2013, 11:20 AM
i know heat fans are saying they are just biding their time until the playoffs and to some extent i agree but what makes it so easy to just turn it on when it matters? They dont look the same as last year still number 1 to the title but these loses and physical play and teams figuring them out has to account for more than just they are waiting for the playoffs to start... not baiting, not anything just an observation

nycericanguy
01-11-2013, 11:28 AM
Knicks have just had bad luck lately... it happens.

Melo slashes his finger, misses 3 games...

Felton fractures his pinky finger, out 6 weeks... = Kidd having to play PG and play big minutes and a thinner bench.

Camby falls on Melo's knee = hyperextends it, misses 2 games, then gets suspended.

SAC hits a wild buzzer beater against them...

The injury to Sheed has hurt, but really its Felton being out and Melo being out that's hurt them most.

Knick_Fever
01-11-2013, 12:08 PM
he was talking about 06...

Pretty long hangover, 6 years? I wonder how long this hangover is gonna last.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 12:17 PM
i know heat fans are saying they are just biding their time until the playoffs and to some extent i agree but what makes it so easy to just turn it on when it matters? They dont look the same as last year still number 1 to the title but these loses and physical play and teams figuring them out has to account for more than just they are waiting for the playoffs to start... not baiting, not anything just an observation

Every team takes their level of play up a notch when the playoffs start. Miami has shown they can do that and get to the finals 2 years in a row. No reason to question whether they can do it again.

NYJ - NYY
01-11-2013, 12:30 PM
Every team takes their level of play up a notch when the playoffs start. Miami has shown they can do that and get to the finals 2 years in a row. No reason to question whether they can do it again.

the difference between this year and from those 2 is that they have won it already...dwade and melo are my favorite players (before wade teamed up he was mine and still is and loved melo since 'cuse) so i like to see either succeed every year but the laxedasical (bad spelling) play may be a concern if it lasts after the all star break. If they are still 500 on the road after the all star break and going into the playoffs then it could be an issue... just sayyen

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 12:32 PM
the difference between this year and from those 2 is that they have won it already...dwade and melo are my favorite players (before wade teamed up he was mine and still is and loved melo since 'cuse) so i like to see either succeed every year but the laxedasical (bad spelling) play may be a concern if it lasts after the all star break. If they are still 500 on the road after the all star break and going into the playoffs then it could be an issue... just sayyen

they were .500 on the road last year. no issue. injuries would be an issue.

kdspurman
01-11-2013, 12:32 PM
I will say this... There is a difference in a team that gets to the finals, loses, and then wants to come back the next year and send a message to everyone, than a team that just won the finals and no longer has nothing to prove.

No doubt Miami is the team to beat in the East, but there is no reason to assume they'll automatically turn on the switch and be in the finals again. Whether fans want to hear it or not, they're not as hungry now as they were last year, and I think even Bosh said it. Especially when you look at the defensive #'s and rebounding. Last year they were a top 5 defensive team, and this year they're nearly 15th.

It'll be interesting to see how they look after the all-star break, I think that's when you'll get more of a sense of their mentality and their hunger to want to repeat. Cause repeating in this league isn't an easy thing to do.

Max.This
01-11-2013, 12:34 PM
Miami didn't just walk through the eastern conference. They had tough games particularly in Boston where they could've easily lost. Analysts say a bunch of crap, and they are the same ppl that say things that you easily disagree with but youll choose only the **** you want to hear. The Heat are a good team but they have flaws to. Quit walking around thinking everyone should bow down to them when they didn't win 4-0 every round

NYJ - NYY
01-11-2013, 12:48 PM
they were .500 on the road last year. no issue. injuries would be an issue.

ok then to each his own just saying to heat fans across the board that share your belief...its hard to just turn it on when clearly your team isnt as hungry as they were in previous years as well as team adapting to their playing style... in saying that, best of luck and hopefully see you in the ECF for an epic battle!!

D-Leethal
01-11-2013, 01:00 PM
I will say this... There is a difference in a team that gets to the finals, loses, and then wants to come back the next year and send a message to everyone, than a team that just won the finals and no longer has nothing to prove.

No doubt Miami is the team to beat in the East, but there is no reason to assume they'll automatically turn on the switch and be in the finals again. Whether fans want to hear it or not, they're not as hungry now as they were last year, and I think even Bosh said it. Especially when you look at the defensive #'s and rebounding. Last year they were a top 5 defensive team, and this year they're nearly 15th.

It'll be interesting to see how they look after the all-star break, I think that's when you'll get more of a sense of their mentality and their hunger to want to repeat. Cause repeating in this league isn't an easy thing to do.

This is definitely worth taking note from a Spurs fan. They are proof of how difficult it is to repeat. As a Giants fan while I know this 'switch' to turn it up a notch tends to occur, its not guaranteed.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 01:42 PM
Knicks have just had bad luck lately... it happens.

Not really. Somewhat.


Melo slashes his finger, misses 3 games...

which we only loss one game there.


Felton fractures his pinky finger, out 6 weeks... = Kidd having to play PG and play big minutes and a thinner bench.

which we actually had better ball movement. This was around the time teams used Houston and Chicago's defensive scheme to beat us. Staying at home at the 3 point line, running us off the line, dribble penetration exposing Ronnie's and Ray's lack of lateral defense. Wearing out Chandler having to help so many times. On top of that you forgot we went deep in the depth chart w/ players who didn't play all season.


Camby falls on Melo's knee = hyperextends it, misses 2 games, then gets suspended.

That was against LA, we won that game and then I think we loss to a hungry well coached Bulls team.


SAC hits a wild buzzer beater against them...

definitely scouting and luck. Losing on a scramble is definition of luck.


The injury to Sheed has hurt, but really its Felton being out and Melo being out that's hurt them most.

not really. Unless you believed he was going to stay healthy all season. Sheed was a floor spreader but eventually he'd had been a perimeter player not getting the rebound or being quick enough to help defend, or rotate on a switch. The thing that hurt us is we've been coming down to earth. No one shoots the rate we did from 3 all season, it's not possible. Long range and accuracy is the biggest risk in basketball, that's why many don't succeed in it. Melo, Tyson, Kidd and JR (especially him who is MVP B) have saved our *****.

Novak has regressed. And it's been all season. Ronnie has regressed. Copeland is inconsistant but being 28 and a rookie to the NBA is not easy, there is no big depth of the bench. The guard depth is JR Smith, F depth is Stat and Copeland, who both are the human turnstile to opposing teams. We even started playing zone to disguise their inability to man to man defend. As for C depth, Tyson. It's just been him.

The scary thing is we aren't healthy and there's this team in Brooklyn who's starting to hit their stride and 98% healthy, there's Chicago who's close to 90% healthy, there's Boston who's a factor, and Indy well IDK about them.

If you check our schedule, the losses came after we loss to Houston at home. After that we went from an above .500 to just a .500 team.

Knick_Fever
01-11-2013, 02:09 PM
I will say this... There is a difference in a team that gets to the finals, loses, and then wants to come back the next year and send a message to everyone, than a team that just won the finals and no longer has nothing to prove.

No doubt Miami is the team to beat in the East, but there is no reason to assume they'll automatically turn on the switch and be in the finals again. Whether fans want to hear it or not, they're not as hungry now as they were last year, and I think even Bosh said it. Especially when you look at the defensive #'s and rebounding. Last year they were a top 5 defensive team, and this year they're nearly 15th.

It'll be interesting to see how they look after the all-star break, I think that's when you'll get more of a sense of their mentality and their hunger to want to repeat. Cause repeating in this league isn't an easy thing to do.

Im glad to see that you realize that, as oppose to other avid heat fans on here who continually say "They'll turn it on in the playoffs." You simply cant bank on that. It would be a rude awakening for those fans come playoff time when teams do a better job against the heat. They also bank on analyst choice, and that is also a problem because they have been wrong in the past, dead wrong. Just look at the Mavs for example, they weren't even expected to come out of the west, and look what happened.

Knick_Fever
01-11-2013, 02:15 PM
Im not saying the Heat won't win it all, and I even favor them to do so, and Im a die hard Knicks fan. But I just see good teams doing a better job defending the Heat this year, spoelstra's being out-coached several times down the stretch. Teams are doing a lot better with their defensive rotations, putting length on Wade, small-ball execution, etc.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 02:17 PM
Im not saying the Heat won't win it all, and I even favor them to do so, and Im a die hard Knicks fan. But I just see good teams doing a better job defending the Heat this year, spoelstra's being out-coached several times down the stretch. Teams are doing a lot better with their defensive rotations, putting length on Wade, small-ball execution, etc.

You won't say it. I will. They ain't winning w/ that same team. 100%. With that current roster. Without changes they get KO'd in the 2nd rd.:cool:

bucketss
01-11-2013, 03:12 PM
You won't say it. I will. They ain't winning w/ that same team. 100%. With that current roster. Without changes they get KO'd in the 2nd rd.:cool:

lol by who the nets? bwhaha.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 03:24 PM
lol by who the nets? bwhaha.

By anybody the way they playing as of late.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 03:24 PM
You won't say it. I will. They ain't winning w/ that same team. 100%. With that current roster. Without changes they get KO'd in the 2nd rd.:cool:

:laugh:


By anybody the way they playing as of late.

So since the knicks are playing even worse, they would be lucky to make it out the first round, right?

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 03:30 PM
:laugh:



So since the knicks are playing even worse, they would be lucky to make it out the first round, right?

Right. I'm ngl.

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 04:42 PM
Pretty long hangover, 6 years? I wonder how long this hangover is gonna last.

not as long as the hangover you guys had in between playoff wins lol. and that's not even a championship just a playoff victory. anyways he was joking when he said it and it just went over your head so i tried to explain and you still don't seem to get it.

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 04:43 PM
You won't say it. I will. They ain't winning w/ that same team. 100%. With that current roster. Without changes they get KO'd in the 2nd rd.:cool:

100% huh? lol ok then...:rolleyes:

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 04:49 PM
100% huh? lol ok then...:rolleyes:

you're telling me no moves at all

Wade, Bron, Bosh, Anthony, Ray that starting will be an NBA repeat champion? With LeBron playing facilitator? You obviously have to make moves. Bigs and the bench.

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 04:57 PM
you're telling me no moves at all

Wade, Bron, Bosh, Anthony, Ray that starting will be an NBA repeat champion? With LeBron playing facilitator? You obviously have to make moves. Bigs and the bench.

only move the heat might make is sign a turiaf type player when the buyouts happen. but just like last year it'll just be to fill in at time during the regular season and buy time in the middle until the playoffs then back to the bench for him.

chalmers/wade/lebron/battier/bosh will likely be the starting lineup just like last year and now that miller is healthier and we have allen they will be the main guys off the bench along with anthony and haslem with cole seeing some minutes when we need better defense from the point guard position. i don't see why they can't get it done again, they've already proven themselves minus allen and with miller's back alot worse off then it is this year. also wade is a great facilitator as well as lebron, he just doesn't get the chance to do it as often as he can. he could average 7ast if lebron weren't the main ball handler so they have options.

when it comes to a 7 game series where gameplanning is more in depth and lebron and wade go all out all game with wade playing more minutes then in the regular season it's different then a game in january.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 05:04 PM
only move the heat might make is sign a turiaf type player when the buyouts happen. but just like last year it'll just be to fill in at time during the regular season and buy time in the middle until the playoffs then back to the bench for him.

chalmers/wade/lebron/battier/bosh will likely be the starting lineup just like last year and now that miller is healthier and we have allen they will be the main guys off the bench along with anthony and haslem with cole seeing some minutes when we need better defense from the point guard position. i don't see why they can't get it done again, they've already proven themselves minus allen and with miller's back alot worse off then it is this year. also wade is a great facilitator as well as lebron, he just doesn't get the chance to do it as often as he can. he could average 7ast if lebron weren't the main ball handler so they have options.

when it comes to a 7 game series where gameplanning is more in depth and lebron and wade go all out all game with wade playing more minutes then in the regular season it's different then a game in january.

So teams like Indy who have grown together, and NY, Chicago etc. they can't knock out an underachieving Heat roster? Wade isn't a reliable facilitator anymore, their defense at times is pedestrian.

SportsFanatic10
01-11-2013, 05:10 PM
So teams like Indy who have grown together, and NY, Chicago etc. they can't knock out an underachieving Heat roster? Wade isn't a reliable facilitator anymore, their defense at times is pedestrian.

they might but i doubt it. i never said the heat would 100% win where as you said they 100% wouldn't lol. the heat have been in the finals 2 years in a row, i don't see why you doubt them so much other then just wishful thinking. yes they could get knocked out, but i don't think it'll happen unless there is an injury to one of the big 3. wade is still a reliable facilitator when he has the chance, that comment makes no sense, and the defense will be there again when the playoffs start. they have the same lineup so it's not like they lost their defense. the regular season can become boring when the real season seems so far away, and that's really all that is going on here.

xxplayerxx23
01-11-2013, 05:10 PM
Lol Felton is our 4th best scorer. People discount his importance. All good we have still played well overall this season. Injuries hurt but we are still 23-12 and a very good team. Miami is still the team to beat in the Nba, until someone proves otherwise.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 05:13 PM
He's important to stopping ball movement and taking heat checking shots. The important one is Tyson Chandler. He's the one giving Felton those beautiful lanes and and wide open clankers he keeps tipping back to him.

Lets see scorers.

Anthony #1
Smith #2
Chandler #3
Stat #4
Copeland #5
Kidd #6
Novak #7
And then you can add Felton's importance.

xxplayerxx23
01-11-2013, 05:15 PM
Lmao. 1- he is a bit of a chucker but he is a better defender then Kidd when it comes to guarding PGs.
2- he has shown he can play with melo and his lobs are a very big key.
3-he is an important key to the Knicks whether you like it or not. He allows more rest for Kidd and is the 4th option scoring wise which is something we have lacked without him

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 05:19 PM
Lmao. 1- he is a bit of a chucker but he is a better defender then Kidd when it comes to guarding PGs.
2- he has shown he can play with melo and his lobs are a very big key.
3-he is an important key to the Knicks whether you like it or not. He allows more rest for Kidd and is the 4th option scoring wise which is something we have lacked without him

1- Nah homie, he's not better defending than Kidd. Infact Kidd is the one who masked his lack of lateral defense. Shumpert immediately exceeds both.

2- He's thrown away quite a few lobs too and has confused Tyson plenty of times on his lob or tear drop

3- Obviously I don't. I'd trade him for Kyle Lowry if I could or any other PG in the east not named Chalmers. :laugh2:

We've had scorers, it's penetrators that we don't have.

xxplayerxx23
01-11-2013, 05:24 PM
1- Nah homie, he's not better defending than Kidd. Infact Kidd is the one who masked his lack of lateral defense. Shumpert immediately exceeds both.

2- He's thrown away quite a few lobs too and has confused Tyson plenty of times on his lob or tear drop

3- Obviously I don't. I'd trade him for Kyle Lowry if I could or any other PG in the east not named Chalmers. :Laugh2:

We've had scorers, it's penetrators that we don't have.


1- homie you obviously don't know what your talking about.

2- Kidd can't guard PGs Felton can. Kidd at this point can guard sg better then PGs.

3- lol he is a penetrator and a very good one. He has been very important. Shump obviously is very important and yeah I'd take Lowry over Felton duh but lol not every pg minus charmers in the east is better. Forgot to ask what is your opinion on melo now?

bucketss
01-11-2013, 05:35 PM
you're telling me no moves at all

Wade, Bron, Bosh, Anthony, Ray that starting will be an NBA repeat champion? With LeBron playing facilitator? You obviously have to make moves. Bigs and the bench.

mabye,maybe not but they'll breeze through the east. barring injury offcourse.

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 05:36 PM
1- homie you obviously don't know what your talking about.

2- Kidd can't guard PGs Felton can. Kidd at this point can guard sg better then PGs.

3- lol he is a penetrator and a very good one. He has been very important. Shump obviously is very important and yeah I'd take Lowry over Felton duh but lol not every pg minus charmers in the east is better. Forgot to ask what is your opinion on melo now?

Wait a second, you think Raymond Felton was anchoring the backcourt defense? :laugh:

Felton doesn't guard anybody, he's almost equivalent to Allan Houston's defense. :laugh2:

He's an ok penetrator, doesn't finish much. He's been semi important. Every PG in the east not named Chalmers would be an upgrade over Raymond Felton, pair them up w/ Kidd and just watch.

Melo has been an allstar. MVP candidate imho.

xxplayerxx23
01-11-2013, 05:43 PM
Wait a second, you think Raymond Felton was anchoring the backcourt defense? :laugh:

Felton doesn't guard anybody, he's almost equivalent to Allan Houston's defense. :laugh2:

He's an ok penetrator, doesn't finish much. He's been semi important. Every PG in the east not named Chalmers would be an upgrade over Raymond Felton, pair them up w/ Kidd and just watch.

Melo has been an allstar. MVP candidate imho.

I didn't say that. I said he is better at guarding PGs then Kidd is. He is an above average defender. He doesn't finish a lot but he still draws the defense in. And oh have you changed your stance on melo being able to win a championship as a number 1 options? I agree he has been an mvp candidate top 3-5 this year

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 05:48 PM
I didn't say that. I said he is better at guarding PGs then Kidd is. He is an above average defender. He doesn't finish a lot but he still draws the defense in. And oh have you changed your stance on melo being able to win a championship as a number 1 options? I agree he has been an mvp candidate top 3-5 this year

You said he's better than Kidd defending, which he really isn't. He's not even above average. Kidd is actually rated as one of the better defenders in the league. That's why him and JR Smith are assigned to the best shooters and penetrators plenty of nights. :confused:

I think I ever said he couldn't. I said he's a knuckle and we're not going to win unless he changes. I don't think I ever said you couldn't win w/ him as the #1 option. I did say Melo-ball doesn't win championships. Melo even echoed that in a few interviews and hasn't played chuck ball, he's been efficient, he's changed the way he balls.

GiantsSwaGG
01-11-2013, 05:56 PM
Miami might not make it pass the second. It will be a tight race for first between Knicks, bulls, pacers and celtics

Jesse2272
01-11-2013, 06:18 PM
He's important to stopping ball movement and taking heat checking shots. The important one is Tyson Chandler. He's the one giving Felton those beautiful lanes and and wide open clankers he keeps tipping back to him.


Felton was pretty good before the hand injuries that has to factor into the poor shooting after the hot start, you dont think so?

Getting into the lane, defending the quicker guards (PG pace period) and even bringing the ball up is suffering right now, we sorely underrate his importance as Knicks fans

IMO

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 06:41 PM
Felton was pretty good before the hand injuries that has to factor into the poor shooting after the hot start, you dont think so?

Getting into the lane, defending the quicker guards (PG pace period) and even bringing the ball up is suffering right now, we sorely underrate his importance as Knicks fans

IMO

Raymond Felton is a career 41% shooter, he's a career 33% shooter from 3, you want to ask me this question again?

Jesse2272
01-11-2013, 06:44 PM
Raymond Felton is a career 41% shooter, he's a career 33% shooter from 3, you want to ask me this question again?

I'm talking this season, his role and importance to this years team

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 06:49 PM
I'm talking this season, his role and importance to this years team

he's been mediocore.

You want to hear his splits?

November

42% FG, 40% 3PT, 67% FT

December

37% FG, 30% 3PT, 88% FT

There is one alarming trait. When his hand went bad, for some reason, his dumbass started shooting more. His offensive numbers actually went up, but his efficiency sucked. Sounds mediocore to me.

Jesse2272
01-11-2013, 06:57 PM
he's been mediocore.

You want to hear his splits?

November

42% FG, 40% 3PT, 67% FT

December

37% FG, 30% 3PT, 88% FT

There is one alarming trait. When his hand went bad, for some reason, his dumbass started shooting more. His offensive numbers actually went up, but his efficiency sucked. Sounds mediocore to me.

Shooting stats aside, his first hand injury was early December around the 2nd it was reported i believe, im not saying hes lights out or our 2next best scoring option, this team clicked when we were healthy and he fit his role nicely, maybe its just me but his loss of late is very evident

He should definitely never shoot 15+ shots a game

he was a good compliment to kidd and his PnR with Tyson was insane

his D on the quicker guards was acceptable to say the least

he was a Key component to our early success

KniCks4LiFe
01-11-2013, 07:10 PM
Shooting stats aside, his first hand injury was early December around the 2nd it was reported i believe, im not saying hes lights out or our 2next best scoring option, this team clicked when we were healthy and he fit his role nicely, maybe its just me but his loss of late is very evident

He should definitely never shoot 15+ shots a game

he was a good compliment to kidd and his PnR with Tyson was insane

his D on the quicker guards was acceptable to say the least

he was a Key component to our early success

B/c we have no one capable of getting into the paint other than JR Smith.

Agreed.

Yes but when teams started defending the PnR it was over. So it's not going to work like it did anymore b/c that's now in the scouting report.

mediocore.

I'd say Tyson and Kidd were more important. We're competitive b/c Kidd is still running the offense, let him go down and you'll see a big difference.

justinnum1
01-11-2013, 07:21 PM
lol at no one responding to the kid that thinks Miami won't make it out the 2nd round.

Jesse2272
01-11-2013, 07:26 PM
B/c we have no one capable of getting into the paint other than JR Smith.

Agreed. :cheers:


Yes but when teams started defending the PnR it was over. So it's not going to work like it did anymore b/c that's now in the scouting report.

Disagree, but we will see


mediocore.
Never said he was elite just an integral role player important to our success


I'd say Tyson and Kidd were more important. We're competitive b/c Kidd is still running the offense, let him go down and you'll see a big difference.
JK and TY are irreplaceable, Kidd cannot run the PG for an entire game anymore

Kidd n Ray combo worked and will still work when Ray returns

Lets revisit when were healthy

cant wait for Shump to come back

and now Camby out:cry:

GiantsSwaGG
01-11-2013, 07:56 PM
Someone mad Miami won't make it pass the second :laugh:

JordansBulls
01-11-2013, 10:50 PM
Surprised to see Portland come back in this and then shut down Lebron in the 2nd half.