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jsthornton7
01-09-2013, 04:11 AM
According to Marc Stein they are offering Ed Davis, Jose Calderon and draft considerations.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/53353/raptors-want-in-on-rudy-gay-chase

jmoney85
01-09-2013, 04:19 AM
why would toronto do this?

Leftcoast_yg
01-09-2013, 04:21 AM
Good deal for the Raps but they have Derozen and Landry who is supposed to be an investment. Grizzlies get a young Forward with great potential and a Veteran pg which they need as a back up to Conley but everyone knows what happens when he doesn't start.

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-09-2013, 04:24 AM
hahahhaha, pause.

Monta is beast
01-09-2013, 04:26 AM
Lowry
DeRozan
Gay
Bargani
Valanciunas

Solid five mining forward.

Jack of Blades
01-09-2013, 04:28 AM
Best thread title ever.

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-09-2013, 04:29 AM
Best thread title ever.

thats what Im saying.

kobe4thewinbang
01-09-2013, 04:33 AM
What the heck have the Raptors been smoking all year? First, they get duped by NY, then they get duped by Phoenix. Now they're trading for anybody they can get.

BHF
01-09-2013, 04:58 AM
What the heck have the Raptors been smoking all year? First, they get duped by NY, then they get duped by Phoenix. Now they're trading for anybody they can get.

what are you talking about raptors need a starting caliber sf and Rudy Gay fits in perfect with the roster they have.

McPeak92
01-09-2013, 05:03 AM
can't see that package landing Gay.

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-09-2013, 05:12 AM
can't see that package landing Gay.

hahaha

mjt20mik
01-09-2013, 05:13 AM
Take Calderon and Bargnani please. Leave Ed with us.

Eitherway, I don't see this happening. Gay is a good player, but I don't feel he is the solution for the 3 spot in Toronto. His defense is subpar and he is wildly inconsistent. In into the fact that his numbers and DeRozan's numbers are identical in every category.

BHF
01-09-2013, 05:15 AM
i like Ed but if it means we get Rudy Gay in return **** it they can even have a second round pick for all i care

jsthornton7
01-09-2013, 05:15 AM
Best thread title ever.

You're welcome :)

Vincent33
01-09-2013, 05:25 AM
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb30/theamazingkepso/Gifs/archer-phrasing.jpg

ssr2020
01-09-2013, 05:34 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bgkv8o5
add a first rounder to make it fair

Memphis accepts because of calderons veteran presence and expiring contract, bargnani's outside shooting (a better shooter than gay) and a hustle player in fields.

HowFit
01-09-2013, 05:41 AM
Ok...

KniCks4LiFe
01-09-2013, 06:33 AM
The Gay package. pause.

mjt20mik
01-09-2013, 06:38 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bgkv8o5
add a first rounder to make it fair

Memphis accepts because of calderons veteran presence and expiring contract, bargnani's outside shooting (a better shooter than gay) and a hustle player in fields.

Doubt that will happen. MEM is giving up too much to get those pieces from the Raps.

Gibby
01-09-2013, 07:26 AM
lol best title. I hope we can send either Bargnani or Amir Johnson in this trade because were taking a huge salary in Gay.

Badluck33
01-09-2013, 07:30 AM
Toronto needs something right now. Even if its gay.

Gibby
01-09-2013, 07:31 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bgkv8o5
add a first rounder to make it fair

Memphis accepts because of calderons veteran presence and expiring contract, bargnani's outside shooting (a better shooter than gay) and a hustle player in fields.

lol this wont work. Basically you took out a young talent like Ed Davis and added a horrible contract like Bargnani. The grizz want to avoid the luxury tax by trading gay, why would they want to taken on more salary.

flclfanman
01-09-2013, 09:04 AM
Toronto needs something right now. Even if its gay.

:rimshot:

Mile High Champ
01-09-2013, 09:16 AM
No Thanks to Gay. DeRozan is putting up near identical numbers to him while Gay is being paid max money. Gay is a chucker and remains very overrated.

JiffyMix88
01-09-2013, 09:20 AM
Funny *** thread, but y would the Raptors want Gay, Derozan and Ross too many scorers that don't do much else at the same position along with a scoring pg.

69centers
01-09-2013, 09:24 AM
Someone needs to close the other one, as we don't need two Raptors going hard on gay threads.

bucketss
01-09-2013, 09:49 AM
hell no **** bc and his desperate ***!

b@llhog24
01-09-2013, 09:57 AM
Lowry
DeRozan
Gay
Bargani
Valanciunas

Solid five mining forward.

Looks like a bottom 5 defense.

GrumpyOldMan
01-09-2013, 10:06 AM
count me out. I'm just not a Gay guy......not that there's anything wrong with that. ;)

As a Raps fan I dont want to lose Davis and reduce the playing time of Ross.

spreadeagle
01-09-2013, 10:17 AM
Trade Calderon Davis 2 second rounders for Gay
Then trade
Bargnani Alan Anderson for Bass and Green from Celtics if you can

Raps lineup
Lowry Lucas
Derozan Ross Fields
Gay Green
Bass Amir Johnson Acy
Valanciunas Gray

playoff team in East I think

miller74
01-09-2013, 10:19 AM
A year ago maybe, but Ross and Derozan are playing well, Alan Anderson and Landry Fields are doing enough off the bench that the wing spot isnt the problem it once was. Trading Bargnani should be the first move they make

mdm692
01-09-2013, 10:21 AM
What pick? Lol. Oh you mean the one OKC has. If that is the case then do the following trade with the Tor pick going to Memphis along with the Minnesota pick the Suns have.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=abk4h7e

mdm692
01-09-2013, 10:22 AM
We will throw in Markieff Morris if Memphis wants.

CaptainClutch
01-09-2013, 10:25 AM
Best thread title ever.

:laugh:

That starting five would be sick and having these high flyers in Ross and DeRozan.....

C_Mund
01-09-2013, 10:26 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and take back when I said I'd do Jose and Ed for Gay, which was like every day until Bargs went down. At this point I like his play too much to give him AND Caldy up for a player that may not even be as good as Ross by the time his contract is up.

BALLER R
01-09-2013, 10:31 AM
With a small line up with Derozan at the 2, Ross at the 3 and Gay at the 4.

One could only imagine.

king4day
01-09-2013, 10:41 AM
What the heck have the Raptors been smoking all year? First, they get duped by NY, then they get duped by Phoenix. Now they're trading for anybody they can get.

Maybe I'm drawing a blank here but how did they get duped by Phoenix?

mbsalame123
01-09-2013, 10:44 AM
its gonna get ruined because of andrea bargnani. the raptors are going to insist on having andrea bargnani involved in the deal and memphis is going to say No and then they are going to look for a third team and won't find one and the trade will fall apart. most likely the raptors will have to give up derrozan, fields, or ross in the deal along with davis and calderon because they dont have a good draft pick anymore due to the trade they did with the rockets.

If they can somehow get the lakers involved and send bargnani to the lakers with gasol to memphis and randolph off to the lakers or raptors somehow, than that might work but idk how it would work.

king4day
01-09-2013, 10:44 AM
People should keep an open mind on this too. If Toronto gets Gay, chances are, a guy like Derozen is expendable. They should be able to recover picks or young talent for him.

mbsalame123
01-09-2013, 10:47 AM
People should keep an open mind on this too. If Toronto gets Gay, chances are, a guy like Derozen is expendable. They should be able to recover picks or young talent for him.

derrozan would probably be involved in a rudy gay trade. it would most likely be rudy gay, josh selby, and mareese speights or darrell arthur for ed davis, jose calderon and derrozan.

Johann
01-09-2013, 10:52 AM
I don't like Gay, people.

Cal827
01-09-2013, 10:55 AM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

mdm692
01-09-2013, 10:58 AM
Maybe I'm drawing a blank here but how did they get duped by Phoenix?

I'm guessing by trading Nash to LA after everybody thought Tor was his new home.

IndyRealist
01-09-2013, 11:07 AM
Ed Davis is better than Rudy Gay. Most days, so is Calderon. Raptors trading their depth and skill for what? Rudy Gay is not a star. He's just paid like one.

1-800-STFU
01-09-2013, 11:08 AM
Gay always takes it hard to the hole

IndyRealist
01-09-2013, 11:09 AM
And that trade doesn't help the grizz at all, the pieces they get are redundant with conley and randolph, and leaves a gaping hole at sf.

mike_noodles
01-09-2013, 11:11 AM
God I hope they don't do this!

ghettosean
01-09-2013, 11:24 AM
Jose and Bargs for Gay!!!

I'm not ready to give away Davis he's got so much potential... If they want a player that can spread the floor and hit an open shot they can take Bargs and Calderon to make up for Gay's shooting otherwise I don't make this deal.

We've been needing a SF forever but not at the expense of our young developing talent!

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 11:40 AM
Dont like if for the raptors if they have to give up Ross or Davis.
If they manage to make it Calderon and bargnanni, then i dont like it for the Grizzlies.

Grizz should look somwhere else.

mbsalame123
01-09-2013, 12:09 PM
I think if the raptors can package andrea bargnani in any deal than they will pull the plug on a trade. if it means giving up ross or davis in order to get rid of bargnani, than it will be done. However the grizzlies probably dont want anything to do with andrea bargnani so they will have to find a 3rd team, and if the raptors arent able to find one than neither will the grizzlies, unless they get zach randolph involved, which I think is the reason why rumors surfaced that randolph is available.

WE will have to wait and see!

Sly Guy
01-09-2013, 12:10 PM
derrozan would probably be involved in a rudy gay trade. it would most likely be rudy gay, josh selby, and mareese speights or darrell arthur for ed davis, jose calderon and derrozan.

lol, no way the raps give up their starting sg, their starting pf, and they're most valuable trade chip for one dubiously overpaid sf. Try again.

mbsalame123
01-09-2013, 12:15 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

tell that to the raptors. im afraid that they would be ******** enough to pull off a trade like that.

scaramantula
01-09-2013, 12:19 PM
why are we looking to trade our starting pg? without him we would be a last place team

sep11ie
01-09-2013, 12:25 PM
Hoopshype says "Raps are hot for Gay"... Found it funny.

king4day
01-09-2013, 01:39 PM
I'm guessing by trading Nash to LA after everybody thought Tor was his new home.

Toronto could have signed him outright couldn't they? Besides, it wasn't our choice. If he wanted to go to Toronto, he would have either signed there, or asked us to send him there.

akesh99
01-09-2013, 01:57 PM
What about a 3 team deal like this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=alpo5s2

Raps get their guy in Gay, Mem cuts a ton of salary with Calderons expiring but stays competitive with Granger and Indi gets a scoring PF that would work really well next to Hibbert. Seems like a win for all teams involved. Thoughts?

Spiggity_ace
01-09-2013, 02:04 PM
this trade might be a good idea if getting rid of bargs was involved, but giving away calderon and davis whove been a huge impact in the last stretch is kinda risky, but if Gay pays off i guess it's worth it.

i dont think i would do it.

Tmath
01-09-2013, 02:09 PM
why are we looking to trade our starting pg? without him we would be a last place team

Calderon is only starting because Lowry got injured and to build up his trade value.

Kyle Lowry is our real starting PG.

Tmath
01-09-2013, 02:11 PM
What about a 3 team deal like this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=alpo5s2

Raps get their guy in Gay, Mem cuts a ton of salary with Calderons expiring but stays competitive with Granger and Indi gets a scoring PF that would work really well next to Hibbert. Seems like a win for all teams involved. Thoughts?

Does't make sense foe Indiana, and Memphis takes on way too much salary.

Makes no sense.

akesh99
01-09-2013, 02:42 PM
Does't make sense foe Indiana, and Memphis takes on way too much salary.

Makes no sense.

How? Calderon is a 10M expiring and Granger is a 14M expiring next year. They also get rid of Bayless and his 3M. Rudy goes on to make 18M next year and 19M the year after that.

Indi takes a bit of a risk but they will have a hole at the 4 next year with West expiring and they get to rid themselves of Granger in the process. Bargs would be a great fit in between two great rebounders/defenders in Hibbert and George.

TheNumber37
01-09-2013, 02:43 PM
Gay and Derozan?
Is Hollinger trying to make the raptors worse.

2 low dimension players (Demar being 1 and Rudy, maybe 2). Whose going to hide their flaws, they need talent around them

jsthornton7
01-09-2013, 02:45 PM
I read that Memphis wants expiring contracts and draft picks.

smith&wesson
01-09-2013, 03:09 PM
Gay and Derozan?
Is Hollinger trying to make the raptors worse.

2 low dimension players (Demar being 1 and Rudy, maybe 2). Whose going to hide their flaws, they need talent around them

Jonas/Ross/Lowry/bargnani

There's some talent around them .. If u include Amir Johnson, fields, Anderson,and kleiza we would have some depth as well

smith&wesson
01-09-2013, 03:09 PM
I read that Memphis wants expiring contracts and draft picks.

would make sence

diu9leilomo
01-09-2013, 03:31 PM
Ross, Demar, Fields, Anderson, Kleiza, Gay.

We dont need another SF unless we package them. We have 6 wing players :facepalm:

MrfadeawayJB
01-09-2013, 03:46 PM
I dont think Memphis would bite on this. The notion that the grizz don't have good frontcourt depth is blasphemy. Gasol/Haddadi/Z-BO/Speights/Arthur is very solid. Backup pg might be a issue but for now we are ok with Bayless and a young prospect in Tony Wroten

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 03:48 PM
Lowry+Derozan+Gay+Bargnani = Not enough ball to satisfy all of them = Trouble.

Specially considering that only Lowry shots it efficiently.

I Rock Shaqs
01-09-2013, 03:53 PM
Should have made the title something clever like " Raptors Gone Gay?"

I Rock Shaqs
01-09-2013, 03:55 PM
can't see that package landing gay.

bwahahaha

BHF
01-09-2013, 03:58 PM
why are we looking to trade our starting pg? without him we would be a last place team

we are not Lowry is staying and if you mean Calderon :facepalm: with him we will be last place he ****ing sucks

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 04:00 PM
we are not Lowry is staying and if you mean Calderon :facepalm: with him we will be last place he ****ing sucks

really? id swear your record with Calderon starting is Far FROM LAST PLACE.

Dont worry you only have to eat bile with him for 7 days to a month.

BHF
01-09-2013, 04:00 PM
Lowry+Derozan+Gay+Bargnani = Not enough ball to satisfy all of them = Trouble.

Specially considering that only Lowry shots it efficiently.

dont think he will stay a Raptor or more like hope not

BHF
01-09-2013, 04:01 PM
really? id swear your record with Calderon starting is Far FROM LAST PLACE.

Dont worry you only have to eat bile with him for 7 days to a month.

that's because Lowry came of an injury every smart raptor fan that watches every game will tell you Lowry is light years ahead of Calderon

mbsalame123
01-09-2013, 04:18 PM
woah woah woah guys no need to get all pissed over this dumb stuff. at the end of the day who cares/?????!!! These ****ers are making millions of dollars playing basketball and they really don't give 2 ***** about where they go and play, as long as they make the money.
So why get all offended over them when they probably will never affect your life or have a mark in it.

Now back to NBA rumors. The grizzlies are dragging this out and starting the rumors early, in order to keep us fans entertained and up all night, trying to figure out why they would do a trade or why they would want a certain player.

I think at the end of the day we will Gay get moved in a 3-4 team trade involving the suns or raptors along with a 3rd or/and a 4th team like the lakers, wolves, celtics, kings, or other teams wanting to get rid of some contracts or add players.

Byronicle
01-09-2013, 04:22 PM
LOL this thread title is definitely a top 10 in the creativity department

BHF
01-09-2013, 04:25 PM
i just want to get rid of Tobleron i dont even care if we get a bag of chips and Amares contract in return at least i wont have to watch that off balance real life bobble head anymore.

Nomar
01-09-2013, 04:25 PM
Best thread title ever.

x2

miller74
01-09-2013, 04:41 PM
keep crying all you want say kkk racist all you want when you are the racist one who doesn't like anyone that isn't Spanish, again no one in their right mind would start Tobleron over Lowry

I am by no means a big calderon fan, but if you've watched the team this year, you'd know the team is more successful when calderon is starting. Nothing else really needs to be said beyond that

Tmath
01-09-2013, 04:45 PM
I am by no means a big calderon fan, but if you've watched the team this year, you'd know the team is more successful when calderon is starting. Nothing else really needs to be said beyond that

Calderon has had the luxury of starting without Bargnani in the lineup, Lowry hasn't.

BHF
01-09-2013, 04:51 PM
I am by no means a big calderon fan, but if you've watched the team this year, you'd know the team is more successful when calderon is starting. Nothing else really needs to be said beyond that

no it is not ball sticks to his hands for 23 sec every position and our defense becomes the worst defense in the nba with him on the floor. Tobleron makes our team worse not better

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 04:58 PM
Are you being sarcastic?

he is not.

He says calderon shouldnt be in the nba bacause there are 50 to 60 better Pg in the league.

Tmath
01-09-2013, 04:59 PM
Are you being sarcastic?

No, he doesn't like Calderon.

Calderon is a good player, but he has his weaknesses just like any player.

Calderon is a good shooter and good at setting guys up but, the Raptors need better defense from that position and also a guy that can get into the paint. Lowry gives us that.

Shlumpledink
01-09-2013, 05:01 PM
Raptors love any Gay package they can get their hands on

FriedTofuz
01-09-2013, 05:01 PM
calderon doesnt suck, he just cant play d, which many players in the nba cant do. he also isnt one to aggresively drive into the paint and get to the free throw line. but other than that, hes pretty damn good, if not THE BEST and passing. Hes the most efficent passer in the league, and hes been that way for YEARSSSS

FriedTofuz
01-09-2013, 05:02 PM
It must have been tough growing up with a last name like gay. I can just imagine award ceromonies.. " Rudy GAY" Audience just goes: LMFAO

FriedTofuz
01-09-2013, 05:03 PM
Mr. Gay. LOOOL

king4day
01-09-2013, 05:34 PM
Changed the thread title to try and curb how off topic it has gotten.

CarmeloAnthony
01-09-2013, 05:35 PM
This raptor fan would be delighted.

http://youtu.be/WK7lIjFsGvg

albertajaysfan
01-09-2013, 05:37 PM
i just want to get rid of Tobleron i dont even care if we get a bag of chips and Amares contract in return at least i wont have to watch that off balance real life bobble head anymore.

:facepalm:

miller74
01-09-2013, 05:40 PM
no it is not ball sticks to his hands for 23 sec every position and our defense becomes the worst defense in the nba with him on the floor. Tobleron makes our team worse not better

Ya why worry about facts and actually outcome of the games when you can just by ur hatred for Calderon.

Personally i dont like Calderon very much but there is no point in changing it right now

LanceUpperCut
01-09-2013, 06:04 PM
Awesome another thread side tracked cause BHF comes in acting like he's Jose's crazy x-girlfriend.

BHF
01-09-2013, 06:07 PM
Awesome another thread side tracked cause BHF comes in acting like he's Jose's crazy x-girlfriend.

why because i think he hurts the raptors more than he helps? so if we can get rid of Jose and get Rudy Gay **** yeah ill do that any day of the week

Legitimate
01-09-2013, 06:17 PM
Not liking thiss trade at all, it's not goin to be legit since at all if we still got Bargnani in the starting gig.

Bigbadmoffo
01-09-2013, 06:23 PM
derrozan would probably be involved in a rudy gay trade. it would most likely be rudy gay, josh selby, and mareese speights or darrell arthur for ed davis, jose calderon and derrozan.

Derozan is pretty much on the same level as gay and for half the price! That makes no sense. Gays Contract decreases his value by a lot.

Legitimate
01-09-2013, 06:28 PM
Derozan is pretty much on the same level as gay and for half the price! That makes no sense. Gays Contract decreases his value by a lot.

Yeah, i wanna see a decent wing combo in raptor land. DD and gay :cry:

Nighthawk
01-09-2013, 06:37 PM
Lowry
Derozan
Gay
Bargs
Jonas

I like that starting 5 all of a sudden

Bigbadmoffo
01-09-2013, 06:39 PM
If we get Gay it will set us back 3 years. Him DD and Lowry will make us a 9th to 8th seed team for the next 3 years. I just don't see the chemistry because it'll be a bunch of one one plays on the off side of things and gambles on the def end.

smith&wesson
01-09-2013, 06:43 PM
i would do a calderon, ed davis trade for gay in a heart beat. i guess it just depends on what picks the grizz want back with that package at this point.

smith&wesson
01-09-2013, 06:47 PM
If we get Gay it will set us back 3 years. Him DD and Lowry will make us a 9th to 8th seed team for the next 3 years. I just don't see the chemistry because it'll be a bunch of one one plays on the off side of things and gambles on the def end.

i disagree

lowry - 2nd or 3rd option
derozan - 2nd or 3rd option
gay - 1st option

ross & bargs can be 6th-7th men off the bench for scoring.

kleiza, AA, fields, johnson, & jonas can play off of those guys.

or we can amnesty bargs and get a back up pg for lowry.

lots of options here.

Miltstar
01-09-2013, 06:59 PM
I would like this deal a lot better if it was Bargnani instead of Davis. Ed is prolly my fav Raptor right now with T-Ross

nycericanguy
01-09-2013, 07:02 PM
Is Gay really any better than Derozan? And Derozan is younger and much cheaper.

Gay is one of the more overrated players in the NBA, being paid SUPERSTAR money, and he's not even an all star.

Stunner
01-09-2013, 07:10 PM
Rudy for Eric Gordon

Grizz get : Gasol , Thad Young , Richardson , Lakers 1st and 76'ers 1st

Lakers : Rudy

76ers : Z Bo


Rudy for Granger and Hans

Rudy for Milsap , Hayward and Burks

Bklyn24
01-09-2013, 07:38 PM
I think Gay would fit well in Toronto, finally give them a superstar . I would rather see him in minnesota, imagine a Gay Love duo...

JC_
01-09-2013, 07:41 PM
I'm having trouble figuring out why this would be good for the Raptors. They have a pretty young team that is just starting to gel, why would they wreck that for someone like Rudy Gay?

JC_
01-09-2013, 07:41 PM
I think Gay would fit well in Toronto, finally give them a superstar . I would rather see him in minnesota, imagine a Gay Love duo...

lol:p

dtmagnet
01-09-2013, 08:34 PM
Lowry
Derozan
Gay
Bargs
Jonas

I like that starting 5 all of a sudden

I'd like it more if Bargnani was replaced with a bruiser who is a volume rebounder.

jsthornton7
01-09-2013, 08:51 PM
Rudy for Eric Gordon

Grizz get : Gasol , Thad Young , Richardson , Lakers 1st and 76'ers 1st

Lakers : Rudy

76ers : Z Bo


Rudy for Granger and Hans

Rudy for Milsap , Hayward and Burks

Lakers dont have a tradeable 1st until 2018 lol

Stunner
01-09-2013, 10:30 PM
Lakers dont have a tradeable 1st until 2018 lol

They Better start scouting LeKobe Duncan