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Punk
01-08-2013, 09:09 PM
What the hell are they doing?


Griz CEO Jason Levien, whom principal owner Robert Pera has entrusted to run the franchise, is gauging the value of several players on the roster. There also have been exploratory trade conversations centered on forward Zach Randolph.

The Sacramento Kings are one of the teams that the Griz recently held preliminary talks with, according to a league source.

bootleg42
01-08-2013, 09:13 PM
What?!?!?!?!!????!?!?

NoahH
01-08-2013, 09:15 PM
What is Memphis doing!? They arent rebuilding

Longhornfan1234
01-08-2013, 09:17 PM
Link?

Mr_Amaziing
01-08-2013, 09:18 PM
?? This team is good, why are they trying to rebuild??

Punk
01-08-2013, 09:19 PM
Link?

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21520826/report-grizzlies-also-considering-trading-zach-randolph

D-Leethal
01-08-2013, 09:26 PM
This team was one of the few that IMO had a shot to win it all. They have no less of a shot than Dallas did in '11.

AddiX
01-08-2013, 09:29 PM
Wow, they really don't want to pay that luxury tax.

GiantsSwaGG
01-08-2013, 09:29 PM
Amare and Camby for Z Bo

Avenged
01-08-2013, 09:30 PM
John Hollinger, ladies and gentlemen.

Alayla
01-08-2013, 09:32 PM
I think they are Selling high and its very Smart honestly if they get something nice out of rudy gay AND Zbo they can restart fast and be as good as they are now in 3-4 years and be much younger. I dont see them winning it all personally so why not blow it up.

phlp_bj
01-08-2013, 09:32 PM
zbo for cousins baseline!?

bucketss
01-08-2013, 09:33 PM
Amare and Camby for Z Bo

lol im pretty sure they're trying to save money not take on a larger contact while getting a worse player.

GiantsSwaGG
01-08-2013, 09:35 PM
lol im pretty sure they're trying to save money not take on a larger contact while getting a worse player.

Why would anyway take on that contract and give back a ba contract. And Amare is a beast fool lol

Raps18-19 Champ
01-08-2013, 09:36 PM
Pau and Marc. :drool:

Mr_Jones
01-08-2013, 09:36 PM
I am so confused.

GiantsSwaGG
01-08-2013, 09:37 PM
Pau and Marc. :drool:

The Gasol brothers together is scary

mjt20mik
01-08-2013, 09:38 PM
I think they are Selling high and its very Smart honestly if they get something nice out of rudy gay AND Zbo they can restart fast and be as good as they are now in 3-4 years and be much younger. I dont see them winning it all personally so why not blow it up.

Totally agree.

knicksballers
01-08-2013, 09:41 PM
i could see amare, novak and shump with 5 first round picks for rudy gay and z bo and then if there not happy with amare they amansity him

JJ_JKidd
01-08-2013, 09:49 PM
What the hell are they doing?

World Peace and Pau + someone/something for Randolph and Gay.

Deja vu all over again :D

Vinny642
01-08-2013, 09:51 PM
Wtf

BALLER R
01-08-2013, 09:57 PM
Do these guys know what their doing

Bigbadmoffo
01-08-2013, 10:00 PM
I think it's a smart move. Zach is playing at an unsually high level and his value will never be better then now.

chicagocubsfan
01-08-2013, 10:03 PM
I am guessing John Hollinger is behind this. What a scrub.

Verbal Christ
01-08-2013, 10:03 PM
wish the Rockets would make a call.

Lab Rat Robby
01-08-2013, 10:19 PM
pau for zbo isn't so crazy, maybe the raptors would want in on a 3 way. calderon to memphis would be even more spanish connection chemistry. lakers could end up with bargnani, and/or zbo gay. i'm sure there would have to be all kinds of picks and filler though.

mjt20mik
01-08-2013, 10:20 PM
Do these guys know what their doing

Buy low sell high!

Gay is insanely inefficient.

mzgrizz
01-08-2013, 10:24 PM
These bozos are making my blood boil. Where is Heisley when you need him ? WTF !!

javsvt
01-08-2013, 10:27 PM
The only other team I would root for to win a ring, and now a ZBo trade consideration? Damn!

king4day
01-08-2013, 10:32 PM
Well getting Cousins would be a nice get for them but if I'm them, I'd rather wait until this summer before doing that. They are real title contenders right now.

TheNumber37
01-08-2013, 10:36 PM
If they could trade for Pau Gasol and get in a 3rd team to sweet the deal.. they should do it.

They'd save money in the Long Term and Pau would be rejuvenated.

Chill_Will_24
01-08-2013, 10:56 PM
Whaaaaaaa?

ackar
01-08-2013, 10:57 PM
It's all about the benjamins..trying to save money. It does not make basketball sense.

mzgrizz
01-08-2013, 11:06 PM
They are frickin with fire in Memphis. These outsiders have NO idea what ZBo means to our city. They'll be losing so many fans it'll make their frickin heads spin.

theducksmuggler
01-08-2013, 11:18 PM
Doesn't make any sense baskeball wise but this is a clear 100 percent business decision....sometimes money is more important

mzgrizz
01-08-2013, 11:28 PM
I know I won't be alone in seriously considering my season tickets if they start bleeding us of great popular loved players like ZBo. There was just a paper article with him being named #1 person who's made a difference in Memphis! Cocksuckers obviously don't take the local paper. Where is the local ownership voice?

Hellcrooner
01-08-2013, 11:32 PM
Bearded bros reunion!!!!!!!!!!

spreadeagle
01-08-2013, 11:37 PM
Lakers get Randolph
Memphis gets Calderon Pau pick from Lakers
Raptors get Gay

gotoHcarolina52
01-08-2013, 11:37 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a3dp8ea

ZBo for Chalmers, Miller, and Joel Anthony!

The HEAT get to add ZBo! Memphis gets to add scrubs and toxic contracts! It's a win-win!

LTBaByyy
01-08-2013, 11:44 PM
Grizzlies Get:

Jose Calderon
Pau Gasol
Terrance Ross
Ron Artest

Lakers Get:

Rudy Gay
Bargani

Raptors Get:

Zach Randolph
Jordan Hill




Sound good?

thephoenixson28
01-08-2013, 11:48 PM
If there can get Cousins for Zbo straight up. They Better go for it.

ohreally
01-08-2013, 11:49 PM
Well, if they think they have to shed salary AND get something of value back, I could see them testing the market with all of their top guys. Gay won't get them much.

But I can't see them doing this.

Randolph to the Knicks? Yeah, right, when he was there everybody said he sucked and he was given away for peanuts.

Cousins and Marc? I don't think so.

Pau bor ZBo? What a steal that would be for the Lakers. What an awesome fail for Memphis.

All a smokescreen unless somebody offers a deal they can't refuse.

Hellcrooner
01-08-2013, 11:49 PM
Grizzlies Get:

Jose Calderon
Pau Gasol
Terrance Ross
Ron Artest

Lakers Get:

Rudy Gay
Bargani

Raptors Get:

Zach Randolph
Jordan Hill




Sound good?

Not yet you have to find a way for them to get Rubio, Claver and Ibaka too.

And the draft rights to Llul, Mirotic and Fran Vazquez.

then the capspace to sign Rudy F, Sergio Rodriguez.

:D:D:D:D

Hawkeye15
01-08-2013, 11:50 PM
Hollinger is being given a lot of authority is all of this is true, the Gay/Zbo rumors.

Kyben36
01-08-2013, 11:53 PM
Sacramento+Zack Randolph = train wreck

Sadds The Gr8
01-08-2013, 11:53 PM
morons

Hellcrooner
01-08-2013, 11:54 PM
so, the rumour is Gay to suns for Peanuts.

And then they want to get rid of zbo too.


So what exactly is stopping Marc Gasol to Ask for a trade when he sees he goes from being on a title contending team to a rebuiliding one?

Hellcrooner
01-08-2013, 11:55 PM
Hollinger is being given a lot of authority is all of this is true, the Gay/Zbo rumors.

Hollinger is a moron, one of the morons that think sport can be predicted by stats.

Punk
01-08-2013, 11:56 PM
Memphis is looking to blow it up.


Under new ownership and management, the Memphis front office is dubious these Grizzlies are constructed to contend for the Western Conference title, sources said. Owner Robert Para has turned basketball operations over to CEO Jason Levien.

Memphis is 22-10 and presently holding the fourth seed in the West.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--suns-in-trade-talks-for-rudy-gay-165005609.html;_ylt=Ai85nSH_WKgKcSQhVnDhjjq8vLYF;_ ylu=X3oDMTRrZGZzN2tzBG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE 5CQSBFeHBlcnRzBHBrZwM5YzEwNzc4Yi01YWQ1LTNhOTQtOTg5 ZS01ZWQ5MjlhMzM5ODAEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQkxpc3RNaX hlZExQQ0FUZW1wBHZlcgMwNjAyZmE2MS01OWI0LTExZTItOWRh Zi00YjQ3ODcwNWFhNTQ-;_ylg=X3oDMTFoNjVvZWVyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuYmEEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3

:facepalm: This team hasn't even put together 3-4 seasons of playoff basketball. Trade Gay for an elite defender and post up big off the bench before making this conclusion. Stupid.

b@llhog24
01-09-2013, 12:00 AM
Hollinger is a moron, one of the morons that think sport can be predicted by stats.

You don't even know if he's behind or and even if he is what's his reason for doing so.

b@llhog24
01-09-2013, 12:01 AM
Memphis is looking to blow it up.



:facepalm: This team hasn't even put together 3-4 seasons of playoff basketball. Trade Gay for an elite defender and post up big off the bench before making this conclusion. Stupid.

Post-up big of the bench? You can barely find a starting big with a post up game. Which elite defender do you have in mind though?

shep33
01-09-2013, 12:04 AM
If the Grizz decided to trade Zbo for say Pau, they'd save like 10-12 mill wouldn't they?

sep11ie
01-09-2013, 12:04 AM
Amare and Camby for Z Bo

Take a Morey poison pill and die

sep11ie
01-09-2013, 12:05 AM
If the Grizz decided to trade Zbo for say Pau, they'd save like 10-12 mill wouldn't they?

True, but they like better players/better futures...

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 12:06 AM
If the Grizz decided to trade Zbo for say Pau, they'd save like 10-12 mill wouldn't they?

yep. and taking on account they are trying to trade gay for a role player and expirings.

THAT might be the only thing that would avoid Marc asking for a trade.

Verbal Christ
01-09-2013, 12:09 AM
and then maybe the wolves trade rubio to the grizz, and calderon too. and then the grizz would be like the 7th seed. still better than the lakers. :shrug:

shep33
01-09-2013, 12:09 AM
True, but they like better players/better futures...

True, I can understand them wanting younger players back, but I don't know if many people go to the games if they just have Marc + Conley on that squad

shep33
01-09-2013, 12:10 AM
yep. and taking on account they are trying to trade gay for a role player and expirings.

THAT might be the only thing that would avoid Marc asking for a trade.

Very true. I'd love to see those two play together. I bet they're dominate the high low game (like they did with Spain)

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 12:13 AM
Very true. I'd love to see those two play together. I bet they're dominate the high low game (like they did with Spain)

they would need Jose ( feasable ) Rudy ( not feasable) Navarro ( not feasable) Rubio ( not feasable) Ibaka ( not feaseble).


So, quite difficult to mimic team spain.

Chronz
01-09-2013, 12:16 AM
Hollinger is being given a lot of authority is all of this is true, the Gay/Zbo rumors.

Hollinger is a moron, one of the morons that think sport can be predicted by stats.
Lol wheres your proof?

shep33
01-09-2013, 12:18 AM
they would need Jose ( feasable ) Rudy ( not feasable) Navarro ( not feasable) Rubio ( not feasable) Ibaka ( not feaseble).


So, quite difficult to mimic team spain.

Haha trade Rudy Gay to the Raps! Don't get why the Grizz aren't looking there for a potential deal. Rudy for like Calderon + Ed Davis?

sep11ie
01-09-2013, 12:19 AM
True, I can understand them wanting younger players back, but I don't know if many people go to the games if they just have Marc + Conley on that squad

So they trade for a run down player that has a lot of money on his contract for a better player that has a lesser contract(worth wise)?

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 12:21 AM
So they trade for a run down player that has a lot of money on his contract for a better player that has a lesser contract(worth wise)?

zach randolph is NOT a better player than a Healthy gasol, wich will happen sooner or later.

Oh and his contract is LONGER, so the added up money makes it MORE expensive.

and btw Mchale still wants " that run down player" so dont smile too much you may still get him.

shep33
01-09-2013, 12:22 AM
So they trade for a run down player that has a lot of money on his contract for a better player that has a lesser contract(worth wise)?

Zbo's contract has an extra year on Gasol's worth about 16.5-17 mill. I dunno, I honestly think they shouldn't do anything, but if they're moving guys, I'm just throwing things out there lol

Cracka2HI!
01-09-2013, 12:22 AM
The Grizz would be dumb to rebuild. They shouldn't trade anyone really. I can't relate to not wanting to pay $4 million in luxury tax to have that team. If I was rich enough to have that team I think I'd suck it up.

mzgrizz
01-09-2013, 12:22 AM
I am so furious I could spit nails
I am also so glad I will be at the game Friday night, but if these wienies think they can pull this off in the next 2 days and have a decimated team come back to town, THEY ARE CRAZY

shep33
01-09-2013, 12:24 AM
I am so furious I could spit nails
I am also so glad I will be at the game Friday night, but if these wienies think they can pull this off in the next 2 days and have a decimated team come back to town, THEY ARE CRAZY

Yeah, you guys shouldn't do anything, this was one big curve ball. I kinda get trading one of Rudy or Zbo if you getting quality back, but both of them potentially as salary dumps? That's stupid

Mell413
01-09-2013, 12:30 AM
Trading gay I understand. I don't understand trading Randolph also. I think they have a legit chance to reach the finals. They should go for it.

sep11ie
01-09-2013, 12:31 AM
zach randolph is NOT a better player than a Healthy gasol, wich will happen sooner or later.

Oh and his contract is LONGER, so the added up money makes it MORE expensive.

and btw Mchale still wants " that run down player" so dont smile too much you may still get him.

Gasol is done in the NBA, face it. You say ZBo has an extra year? I'll take his extra extra year over Gasols...


Zbo's contract has an extra year on Gasol's worth about 16.5-17 mill. I dunno, I honestly think they shouldn't do anything, but if they're moving guys, I'm just throwing things out there lol

...

c.c.
01-09-2013, 12:46 AM
wish the Rockets would make a call.

I don't

mzgrizz
01-09-2013, 12:47 AM
Yeah, you guys shouldn't do anything, this was one big curve ball. I kinda get trading one of Rudy or Zbo if you getting quality back, but both of them potentially as salary dumps? That's stupid

It is VERY stupid
Memphis is still not a professional sports town enough, and now the pencil necked computer nerds are seriously ****ing with the fan base
If they can make me furious enough to possibly not buy the season tickets after 12 years in prime seats, they are stupid as hell

c.c.
01-09-2013, 12:53 AM
If the Grizz decided to trade Zbo for say Pau, they'd save like 10-12 mill wouldn't they?

It never fails, you make an Pau trade for everyone that might be available.

shep33
01-09-2013, 01:15 AM
It never fails, you make an Pau trade for everyone that might be available.

It's stupid to break up the Grizz, I'm just throwing **** out there. I don't think either team makes that deal though. I just noted that it'd pair up Marc and Pau while saving them 12 mill

Cracka2HI!
01-09-2013, 01:18 AM
It is VERY stupid
Memphis is still not a professional sports town enough, and now the pencil necked computer nerds are seriously ****ing with the fan base
If they can make me furious enough to possibly not buy the season tickets after 12 years in prime seats, they are stupid as hell

I think long term nerd ball might work out, but to break up a team like the Grizz to do it wouldn't be smart. They better try the nerd ball approach out with Gay first. Randolph and Gasol are what make them go. They might be able to get a decent return for Gay. Then the nerds and fans can be happy!

shep33
01-09-2013, 01:21 AM
Its a stupid move by Hollinger if all of this is true. This team, if they're playing intelligently, can beat anybody in the league in a 7 game series. Truly believe that.

LA4life24/8
01-09-2013, 01:25 AM
saving money by selling high, if they can get a lottery pick or some young up and comers, could be good, but i believe if they trade zbo and gay they are throwing in the towel, which they shouldnt be doing cause they are having a solid year, gonna be some disappointed fans...

ps this new cba is still ****ING smaller market teams, just sayin

MrfadeawayJB
01-09-2013, 01:25 AM
I dont think they will trade Z-BO, but Rudy is a whole different story

Chronz
01-09-2013, 01:28 AM
so, the rumour is Gay to suns for Peanuts.

And then they want to get rid of zbo too.


So what exactly is stopping Marc Gasol to Ask for a trade when he sees he goes from being on a title contending team to a rebuiliding one?
Your not very good at deduction. They want to get under the tax, not lose both players for peanuts

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 01:31 AM
Your not very good at deduction. They want to get under the tax, not lose both players for peanuts

Dudley, a middle of the pack first and expirings seems like very convincing Peanuts to me.

LA4life24/8
01-09-2013, 01:31 AM
Grizzlies Get:

Jose Calderon
Pau Gasol
Terrance Ross
Ron Artest

Lakers Get:

Rudy Gay
Bargani

Raptors Get:

Zach Randolph
Jordan Hill




Sound good?

bargs is garbage so no, plus his contract messses up the 2014 plans, not sure what rudys contract is but pretty sure to at least retain him in '14 or '15 would take nearly a max and i dont think hes worth all that

LA4life24/8
01-09-2013, 01:32 AM
i think the lakers would be absolutely stupid to do a pau for zbo swap, he is not a runner, or a good passer and i dont trust his jumper anymore than paus, he wouldnt fit the system any better than pau, so no thanks

MrfadeawayJB
01-09-2013, 01:33 AM
Not to mention Z-BO and Marc play better together than any other tandem in the NBA. These guys compliment each other perfectly. I think they might just be gauging a number of players trade value just to see options. I do beleive Rudy will be the first to go from our core though

Sinattle
01-09-2013, 01:42 AM
This:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aotosu2



Or maybe this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bejwo3c

Chronz
01-09-2013, 01:42 AM
Its a stupid move by Hollinger if all of this is true. This team, if they're playing intelligently, can beat anybody in the league in a 7 game series. Truly believe that.
Not seeing what makes him responsible for this move or why it would be stupid. What about ownership wanting to cut costs?

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 01:43 AM
Not seeing what makes him responsible for this move or why it would be stupid. What about ownership wanting to cut costs?

The fact that you love stats doesnt mean you have to deffend the stat guys.

reffahead
01-09-2013, 01:50 AM
Hollinger is putting that "Money Ball" reasoning to basketball. For some reason I don't see it working out like it did for the Oakland A's.

Chronz
01-09-2013, 02:01 AM
Not seeing what makes him responsible for this move or why it would be stupid. What about ownership wanting to cut costs?

The fact that you love stats doesnt mean you have to deffend the stat guys.
Lmfao still waiting for the answer to the question I asked you.

Just because you don't understand stats don't mean you can ignore logic/facts

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 02:05 AM
Lmfao still waiting for the answer to the question I asked you.

Just because you don't understand stats don't mean you can ignore logic/facts

Do you think i dont?

The thing is you can not measure everything with stats.

And thats what these people fail to realize.


How succesfull has been Houstons Stats dude as a gm?

Stats are good, sometimes help finding things the eye misses, but they also miss things the eye gets.

They are a TOOL not the End and be it all .

The goods
01-09-2013, 02:05 AM
Lakers better jump on this Gasol, Metta, Blake for Zach, and Gay. The Gasol brothers reunited

sep11ie
01-09-2013, 02:06 AM
Shep is to Lakers as JB is to Bulls. That's not a compliment.

shep33
01-09-2013, 02:07 AM
Not seeing what makes him responsible for this move or why it would be stupid. What about ownership wanting to cut costs?

That's my bad, I should've said the ownership in general, don't know why I was thinking that Hollinger was calling the shots lol

Ill21
01-09-2013, 02:09 AM
Wtf is Memphis doing?

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 02:10 AM
Shep is to Lakers as JB is to Bulls. That's not a compliment.

Shep is a respectable poster.

PleaseBeNice
01-09-2013, 02:13 AM
better not give up cuz

Asik's better
01-09-2013, 02:13 AM
If its true, rockets need to be all over this. And morey could him up without giving up any of our starting four. In Morey we trust

Cracka2HI!
01-09-2013, 02:17 AM
It makes sense for them to trade Gay the more I think about it. I just looked at his stats too. They've been wanting to move that contract since they signed it. I think they might be throwing Z-Bo's name out to try to drive up Gay's value. Make it seem like you are willing to trade either or.

Chronz
01-09-2013, 02:20 AM
Dudley, a middle of the pack first and expirings seems like very convincing Peanuts to me.

For 1, not both.

And its not a bad deal, you've been clamoring for a team first guy to get rid of Gay for a long time now, why the sudden change of heart now that hes played his worst ball?

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 02:22 AM
For 1, not both.

And its not a bad deal, you've been clamoring for a team first guy to get rid of Gay for a long time now, why the sudden change of heart now that hes played his worst ball?

Because they can get MORE for it and actually win a ring.

Chronz
01-09-2013, 02:27 AM
Not to mention Z-BO and Marc play better together than any other tandem in the NBA. These guys compliment each other perfectly.
Yea but the organization already knows all this.


I think they might just be gauging a number of players trade value just to see options. I do beleive Rudy will be the first to go from our core though
First they sent feelers out on Gay now its Z-Bo. Its the logical chain when you consider age, value, and production. But I think its going to be damn hard to find a taker for Gay.


Thats why they have to see what they can get for Z-Bo. Not sure why you are taking such offense to these moves but your owner has deemed it necessary to cut cost. I think I see why he hired new age thinkers, he sorta wants them to do what Morey did for Houston, only for a team that (hopefully) can retool on the fly rather than rebuild completely.

Chronz
01-09-2013, 02:30 AM
Do you think i dont?
Thats a pretty good deduction you just made there.


The thing is you can not measure everything with stats.

And thats what these people fail to realize.
False, thats what people who dont understand stats say whenever they get cornered. Show me proof that these people fail to realize this because all Im seeing is someone who doesn't keep up with the work these people do.


How succesfull has been Houstons Stats dude as a gm?

Very successful, hes one of the best GM's in the league.


Stats are good, sometimes help finding things the eye misses, but they also miss things the eye gets.

They are a TOOL not the End and be it all .
Show me proof that ANY of the people you are criticizing hold the beliefs you claim they do. All your talking is cliche, NOBODY thinks the way you think. Only the ***** think that way and they dont get further than a message board troll post.

IversonIsKrazy
01-09-2013, 02:32 AM
Cheapasses. What's the point of having an NBA franchise if your not going to try to win? Just move that franchise out if they can't sell enough tix, though I doubt that's the issue. Cheap *** owners. Wow.

Chronz
01-09-2013, 02:32 AM
Because they can get MORE for it and actually win a ring.

Based on what? Who could they get that would satisfy the requirement of CUTTING COSTS NOW, while not just giving a player away.

Thats the hold up. Its harder than you think. Dudley would be a good start but its barely enough.

Chronz
01-09-2013, 02:35 AM
This:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aotosu2



Or maybe this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bejwo3c

Jazz wont go big for big much less for a guy who will cost more while being older.

The Grizz are trying to avoid the luxury

LA4life24/8
01-09-2013, 03:23 AM
Shep is a respectable poster.

this... i know i dont have a lot of posts and my opinion holds no real backing but i have been reading this forum for about 2-3 years and avidly in the lakers forum and sheps posts are highly respectable

kobe4thewinbang
01-09-2013, 03:31 AM
They need to slow the hell down and wait until the off-season. As someone said, Memphis could be a surprise this year in the playoffs. They've beaten the "better" teams already this year, so who knows what could happen come crunch time. If they underachieve, or they get a great offer for Gay/Randolph, then do it. But not now. That's just stupid.

Ty_Lawson
01-09-2013, 04:18 AM
ZBo for some players and top 10 picks.

Chronz
01-09-2013, 04:40 AM
They need to slow the hell down and wait until the off-season. As someone said, Memphis could be a surprise this year in the playoffs. They've beaten the "better" teams already this year, so who knows what could happen come crunch time. If they underachieve, or they get a great offer for Gay/Randolph, then do it. But not now. That's just stupid.

But if they wait until the off-season then they could miss out on potential expiring contracts among other things

tp13baby
01-09-2013, 05:25 AM
Id love me some ZBo on the Nuggets.

HowFit
01-09-2013, 05:38 AM
Wow, I'm shock...

PHX2daDEATH
01-09-2013, 06:00 AM
I'd give up ANYBODY on the Suns roster for Z-Bo.. take 3, who cares.. Randolph is on my short list of Players that would make me buy a ticket to see a Suns game, IF they were wearing a Suns uniform..to me Memphis is right there at the top of the West, i don't see why they would trade anybody besides Rudy Gay..

Hawkeye15
01-09-2013, 06:30 AM
Hollinger is a moron, one of the morons that think sport can be predicted by stats.

well, until he has a track record as a decision maker, how can you make that claim? Especially after his numbers support your boy in the Lakers chips?

tadmanny
01-09-2013, 07:02 AM
Do you think i dont?

The thing is you can not measure everything with stats.

And thats what these people fail to realize.


How succesfull has been Houstons Stats dude as a gm?

Stats are good, sometimes help finding things the eye misses, but they also miss things the eye gets.

They are a TOOL not the End and be it all .

I agree with you 100% and still fail to understand how guys like Hollinger and billy beane are looked at geniuses. They def help but you shouldn't create a team based purely off stats.

BleedingGreen9
01-09-2013, 07:17 AM
C's get:
ZBO
Conley
Cousins
Brooks

Kings get:
Rondo
Gay
Lee
Melo
Grizz 2013 first round

Memphis get:
KG (will retire and cut 11M)
Salmons
Evans
Sully
C's 2013 first round
Kings 2013 first round
C's 2014 second round
Kings 2014 second round
C's 2015 first round
Cut 25M in one day +3 first round one a swap with kings and 2 second round picks

C's roster:
Conley/Brooks
Bradley/Terry/Barbosa
Pierce/Green
Zbo/Bass
Cousins/Wilcox/Collins

69centers
01-09-2013, 09:34 AM
C's get:
ZBO
Conley
Cousins
Brooks

Kings get:
Rondo
Gay
Lee
Melo
Grizz 2013 first round

Memphis get:
KG (will retire and cut 11M)
Salmons
Evans
Sully
C's 2013 first round
Kings 2013 first round
C's 2014 second round
Kings 2014 second round
C's 2015 first round
Cut 25M in one day +3 first round one a swap with kings and 2 second round picks

C's roster:
Conley/Brooks
Bradley/Terry/Barbosa
Pierce/Green
Zbo/Bass
Cousins/Wilcox/Collins

And Memphis would instantly go from Playoff Contender to lottery team.

mzgrizz
01-09-2013, 09:54 AM
Cheapasses. What's the point of having an NBA franchise if your not going to try to win? Just move that franchise out if they can't sell enough tix, though I doubt that's the issue. Cheap *** owners. Wow.

Can't be moved out for years and years after this last sale. But you made me see a point. They may think they have the years to build a winner but who will come. In the process ??? Cheap SOBs

Manimal
01-09-2013, 10:12 AM
ZBo won't be moved, would be an absolutely idiotic move by the Grizzlies.

Trading Gay for some good 3-point shooting and another low post guy and some cap relief would be genius move and would make them favorites to me.

CaptainClutch
01-09-2013, 10:19 AM
Is the the 4 man that get the Nets over the hump and put them in the top 3 in the east?

Manimal
01-09-2013, 10:22 AM
What do the Nets have to offer in a trade except for Marshon Brooks?

JayW_1023
01-09-2013, 11:18 AM
THIS makes no sense. Finally they are winning and now they are shopping their best player? Head scratching.

Manimal
01-09-2013, 11:38 AM
THIS makes no sense. Finally they are winning and now they are shopping their best player? Head scratching.

Gasol is not on the block.

Hellcrooner
01-09-2013, 11:48 AM
Gasol is not on the block.

But if team trades gay and Zach for **** +pick+expirings he may well ask for a trade too.

Manimal
01-09-2013, 11:57 AM
But if team trades gay and Zach for **** +pick+expirings he may well ask for a trade too.

According to what I have read, ZBo isn't on the block. Teams have inquired about him but Memphis haven't shown an interest.

Rudy on the other hand is massively overpaid, and his trade will only make them better and more flexible financially in the future.

Lab Rat Robby
01-09-2013, 04:57 PM
they would need Jose ( feasable ) Rudy ( not feasable) Navarro ( not feasable) Rubio ( not feasable) Ibaka ( not feaseble).


So, quite difficult to mimic team spain.

I wouldn't call rubio not feasable right now. he's had a terrible history with the wolves, he's coming off that acl injury, and he's got a back injury and crazy rust right now. this would be my trade proposal as kamikaze memphis gm.

memphis gets gasol (19), rubio (3.5), calderon (10.5), williams (5) 38
lakers get gay(16.5) bargnani (10) bayless (3) 29.5
minny gets conely (7.5) blake (4) morris (.9) jamison (.9) hill (3.6) clark (1.2) 18.3
raptors get zbo (16.5) barea (4.5) 21

gay, zbo, conley, bayless 43.5
gasol, blake, clark, jamison hill morris 30
rubio, williams, barea 13 under cap
calderon, bargnani 20.5 under cap

i left my work up there cause that was difficult to figure out. memphis would go a step crazier to part with conely, but they could keep chemistry pretty well in tact with all the dudes from spain coming in for gasol. they get young cheap rubio and williams. and they save money. the lakers get hometown bayless to help relieve nash, while apprenticing. gay comes in too and they keep artest yikes wouldn't want to be durant or bron. plus bargnani can rain 3's all day with howard to clean up, nash dimin', and a squad of players more worthy of defensive attension. minny dumps williams and rubio which seems insane but i think they might actually want to do that at this point. they get conely which might be enough cause it finally solves their pg head ache. tack on cheap jamison, clark, and morris. that team can't get deep enough with all their injury luck this year. this trade could actually save their chances at the playoffs and keeping love. so what they eat blake and hills contract. finally toronto, basically they dump calderon/bargnani and somehow end up with zbo. nough' said. oh uh barea. yeah i hate players under 6 feet. guy can ball though. perfect situation for him backing up injury prone lowry, and reuniting with that mavs coach.

--23--
01-09-2013, 05:20 PM
This is shocking if true, they're currently top-4 in the west and top-5 in the league as far as standings. Z-bo and Marc plays very well together matter fact they are the best big man due in the league, which is rear and is a advantage in today's NBA.

They want to break that up for what? :confused:

Nomar
01-09-2013, 05:25 PM
ZBo and Allen for Evans and Cousins? Idk Cousins' value at this point so it's hard to say.

Dnovakovic099
01-09-2013, 05:59 PM
I wouldn't call rubio not feasable right now. he's had a terrible history with the wolves, he's coming off that acl injury, and he's got a back injury and crazy rust right now. this would be my trade proposal as kamikaze memphis gm.

memphis gets gasol (19), rubio (3.5), calderon (10.5), williams (5) 38
lakers get gay(16.5) bargnani (10) bayless (3) 29.5
minny gets conely (7.5) blake (4) morris (.9) jamison (.9) hill (3.6) clark (1.2) 18.3
raptors get zbo (16.5) barea (4.5) 21

gay, zbo, conley, bayless 43.5
gasol, blake, clark, jamison hill morris 30
rubio, williams, barea 13 under cap
calderon, bargnani 20.5 under cap

i left my work up there cause that was difficult to figure out. memphis would go a step crazier to part with conely, but they could keep chemistry pretty well in tact with all the dudes from spain coming in for gasol. they get young cheap rubio and williams. and they save money. the lakers get hometown bayless to help relieve nash, while apprenticing. gay comes in too and they keep artest yikes wouldn't want to be durant or bron. plus bargnani can rain 3's all day with howard to clean up, nash dimin', and a squad of players more worthy of defensive attension. minny dumps williams and rubio which seems insane but i think they might actually want to do that at this point. they get conely which might be enough cause it finally solves their pg head ache. tack on cheap jamison, clark, and morris. that team can't get deep enough with all their injury luck this year. this trade could actually save their chances at the playoffs and keeping love. so what they eat blake and hills contract. finally toronto, basically they dump calderon/bargnani and somehow end up with zbo. nough' said. oh uh barea. yeah i hate players under 6 feet. guy can ball though. perfect situation for him backing up injury prone lowry, and reuniting with that mavs coach.

How much time did you spend writing this? Waste of time for you and whoever read the whole thing. Im actually wasting time now responding to this... Minny gets raped.

b@llhog24
01-09-2013, 06:46 PM
Gasol is not on the block.

This.