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rocky4104
01-08-2013, 03:01 AM
saw a comment made by a fan in an article and thought it might be thread worthy:

knowing what we know now, what if it was MJ 2.0 (of the 2nd threepeat so it's closer to Kobe's age) leading LA with this current roster? would LAL be faring better? or it would not have mattered because of too many factors (new players/coach, injuries) affecting the team right now?

lakers4sho
01-08-2013, 03:03 AM
Not thread worthy

AIRMAR72
01-08-2013, 03:27 AM
saw a comment made by a fan in an article and thought it might be thread worthy:

knowing what we know now, what if it was MJ 2.0 (of the 2nd threepeat so it's closer to Kobe's age) leading LA with this current roster? would LAL be faring better? or it would not have mattered because of too many factors (new players/coach, injuries) affecting the team right now?

look!! this thread is rubbish please STOP the MJ and tobe thread comparison you need a time machine to see what JORDAN#23 was all about brah

ThaDubs
01-08-2013, 03:31 AM
No

JasonJohnHorn
01-08-2013, 11:24 AM
Of course they would. Also, Phil Jackson would be coaching this team. Jordan wouldn't have allowed any other coach ;-)

nickdymez
01-08-2013, 11:55 AM
The trolls are going to come out in bunches in this thread

Dade County
01-08-2013, 11:57 AM
Lakers would be undefeated.

Fired-Up
01-08-2013, 02:43 PM
You know what. I have mad respect for Kobe Bryant and his ability to hit the shot to seal the game. But let's be real. He doesn't make his teammates better. The guy has solid perimeter defense. But basically what he brings to the table is he puts the ball in the hole through volume shooting. He doesn't look to rebound much. Doesn't look to pass. MJ could ball hog too, but I never got the feeling during the back half of his career that he held his teammates back.

Without an MVP caliber big man and a point guard to distribute easy buckets and play Defense he looks very mortal. And I mean very mortal.

He is clearly no Shaq, Duncan or MJ. And that is a fact.

Mr_Jones
01-08-2013, 02:51 PM
You know what. I have mad respect for Kobe Bryant and his ability to hit the shot to seal the game. But let's be real. He doesn't make his teammates better. The guy has solid perimeter defense. But basically what he brings to the table is he puts the ball in the hole through volume shooting. He doesn't look to rebound much. Doesn't look to pass. MJ could ball hog too, but I never got the feeling during the back half of his career that he held his teammates back.

Without an MVP caliber big man and a point guard to distribute easy buckets and play Defense he looks very mortal. And I mean very mortal.

He is clearly no Shaq, Duncan or MJ. And that is a fact.

True. Because none of those are his name.

Fired-Up
01-08-2013, 02:58 PM
True. Because none of those are his name.

And he's not that caliber of player either....

JordansBulls
01-08-2013, 04:31 PM
Bulls were oldest team in the league in 1998 and Pippen missed the first 35 games of the season the Bulls were the #1 seed in the East at the time at 24-11 when MJ was 35 years old and his 2nd best player injured.
But not sure why MJ always has to be brought up in a comparison to Kobe.

As far as predictions on the outset of the season

http://espn.go.com/nba/preview2012/story/_/id/8517051/2012-13-nba-predictions-nba-champion



Results: Miami Heat (26 votes), Los Angeles Lakers (8), Oklahoma City Thunder (1).




http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8305767/2012-nba-summer-forecast-nba-champions


Forecast: 2012-13 NBA champions

RANK TEAM VOTES

1
Miami Heat
2011-12 record: 46-20
Won NBA Finals
Predicted 2012-13 record: 60-22

57



2
Los Angeles Lakers
2011-12 record: 41-25
Lost in Western Conference semifinals
Predicted 2012-13 record: 59-23

31



3

Oklahoma City Thunder
2011-12 record: 47-19
Lost in NBA Finals
Predicted 2012-13 record: 59-23

12





http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8305695/2012-nba-summer-forecast-eastern-conference-champions


Forecast: 2012-13 Eastern Conference champions

RANK TEAM VOTES

1

Miami Heat
2011-12 record: 46-20
Won NBA Finals
Predicted 2012-13 record: 60-22

96




2

Boston Celtics
2011-12 record: 39-27
Lost in Eastern Conference finals
Predicted 2012-13 record: 50-32

4




http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8305732/2012-nba-summer-forecast-western-conference-champions

Forecast: 2012-13 Western Conference champions

RANK TEAM VOTES

1

Los Angeles Lakers
2011-12 record: 41-25
Lost in Western Conference semifinals
Predicted 2012-13 record: 59-23

56






2

Oklahoma City Thunder
2011-12 record: 47-19
Lost in NBA Finals
Predicted 2012-13 record: 59-23

42






3
(tie)

Denver Nuggets
2011-12 record: 38-28
Lost in Western Conference first round
Predicted 2012-13 record: 50-32

1






3
(tie)

San Antonio Spurs
2011-12 record: 50-16
Lost in Western Conference finals
Predicted 2012-13 record: 54-28

1

barreleffact
01-08-2013, 04:45 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=jordami01&y1=1998&p2=bryanko01&y2=2013

They were basically the same player. Kobe has been better offensively than Jordan was that that age and actually has a higher assist percentage and lower usage. Jordan had a better DWS and DRTG but those are considered team defense dependent if I am not mistaken.

sep11ie
01-08-2013, 04:54 PM
wtf

mp3
01-08-2013, 04:55 PM
I wonder how many anti Kobe threads there have been over the last year. I cant remember the last time I enjoyed coming on to PSD...

ZHawk1123
01-08-2013, 05:03 PM
MJ > Lebron > Dumars > Kobe

greg_ory_2005
01-08-2013, 05:06 PM
Obviously if Mike James was there instead they would be better. What kinda stupid question is that?

Jamiecballer
01-08-2013, 05:10 PM
saw a comment made by a fan in an article and thought it might be thread worthy:

knowing what we know now, what if it was MJ 2.0 (of the 2nd threepeat so it's closer to Kobe's age) leading LA with this current roster? would LAL be faring better? or it would not have mattered because of too many factors (new players/coach, injuries) affecting the team right now?

better, yes. MJ by this stage of his career had matured much more than Kobe has. he would have cared about winning, and winning only.

king4day
01-08-2013, 05:16 PM
I doubt things change (this year at least). The team really has issues right now

nickdymez
01-08-2013, 05:20 PM
better, yes. MJ by this stage of his career had matured much more than Kobe has. he would have cared about winning, and winning only.

Yea, and Kobe doesnt want to win at all.. :rolleyes:

beliges
01-08-2013, 05:50 PM
saw a comment made by a fan in an article and thought it might be thread worthy:

knowing what we know now, what if it was MJ 2.0 (of the 2nd threepeat so it's closer to Kobe's age) leading LA with this current roster? would LAL be faring better? or it would not have mattered because of too many factors (new players/coach, injuries) affecting the team right now?

better, yes. MJ by this stage of his career had matured much more than Kobe has. he would have cared about winning, and winning only.

MJ by this stage of his career was retired. Even MJ wasn't capable of being an elite player in his 17th season. Granted if he tried he would've been much older than Kobe.

STA_PLAR
01-08-2013, 05:50 PM
^^IT REALLY DOESNT SEEM LIKE IT. he is busy making twitter, crafting photos of him and dwight instead of practice. better yet, he is busy acting like he is the king and not getting old. he needs to get his **** together. quick!

nickdymez
01-08-2013, 06:10 PM
^^IT REALLY DOESNT SEEM LIKE IT. he is busy making twitter, crafting photos of him and dwight instead of practice. better yet, he is busy acting like he is the king and not getting old. he needs to get his **** together. quick!

Are you a troll?

Hawkeye15
01-08-2013, 06:20 PM
not much change, if any honestly. This Lakers team has a ton of issues. Kobe isn't one of them

amos1er
01-08-2013, 06:26 PM
Are you a troll?

Hey, at least 3RDASYSTEM isn't here yet. :facepalm:

Though this guy does remind me of him....hmmmmm

amos1er
01-08-2013, 06:29 PM
MJ > Lebron > Dumars > Kobe

I hope your joking.

BTW, nice sig. :D

rickshaw
01-08-2013, 06:32 PM
The trolls are going to come out in bunches in this thread

Well, you are here...

amos1er
01-08-2013, 06:36 PM
Well, you are here...

hahaha that was so funny bro. :rolleyes:

Cracka2HI!
01-08-2013, 06:37 PM
If the Lakers had Mike James instead of Kobe none of this would be happening!!

ILLUSIONIST^248
01-08-2013, 06:48 PM
mj > lebron > dumars > kobe

lawls!!!

ILLUSIONIST^248
01-08-2013, 06:50 PM
not much change, if any honestly. This Lakers team has a ton of issues. Kobe isn't one of them

^

b@llhog24
01-08-2013, 06:51 PM
They would be better, not sure by how much though.

jayjay33
01-08-2013, 10:29 PM
You know what. I have mad respect for Kobe Bryant and his ability to hit the shot to seal the game. But let's be real. He doesn't make his teammates better. The guy has solid perimeter defense. But basically what he brings to the table is he puts the ball in the hole through volume shooting. He doesn't look to rebound much. Doesn't look to pass. MJ could ball hog too, but I never got the feeling during the back half of his career that he held his teammates back.

Without an MVP caliber big man and a point guard to distribute easy buckets and play Defense he looks very mortal. And I mean very mortal.

He is clearly no Shaq, Duncan or MJ. And that is a fact.


Lmao....boy it's amazing, how people act like MJ was baby Jesus.

MJ has plenty of flaws. An he most certainly held pippen back among others.

RaiderLakersA's
01-09-2013, 12:29 PM
not much change, if any honestly. This Lakers team has a ton of issues. Kobe isn't one of them

This.

The question shouldn't be would the team be better if Jordan were playing, but would this team fare better if Phil Jackson was coaching.

barreleffact
01-09-2013, 12:32 PM
This.

The question shouldn't be would the team be better if Jordan were playing, but would this team fare better if Phil Jackson was coaching.

This, and I think the philosophy would be night and day. Phil has knowledge of defense, and wouldn't force one of the oldest starting lines to be track stars. I'm not saying Phil would have turned everything around immediately, but lets face it, they would be in the playoffs more likely than not instead of likely missing it.

AIRMAR72
01-09-2013, 01:28 PM
Lmao....boy it's amazing, how people act like MJ was baby Jesus.

MJ has plenty of flaws. An he most certainly held pippen back among others.

what flaws MJ had? let me guess dogging his sorry teammates (bill,luc and tony) or hangingout late at night with 1hr sleep before tip off held scottie back please explain that as if Im 2yrs old, dude u did take your medication before you post this rubbish

miller74
01-09-2013, 01:42 PM
Jordan got to a point in his career where if he played he won.

blacknell
01-09-2013, 02:05 PM
MJ a cornball brother