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Everymanalion
01-04-2013, 07:32 PM
I know more players than him do it, but he does it the most out of anyone in the league today, that quick slap/tap of the ball to the back court once somebody misses a shot. Is that considered a rebound on the stat sheets? His hand does touch the ball...and it does control where it goes..just not very well...

nickdymez
01-04-2013, 07:33 PM
Paula Gasol does that too.... And yes it is a rebound

D-Leethal
01-04-2013, 07:37 PM
Its a team rebound but Tyson does not get credit for it.

Everymanalion
01-04-2013, 07:38 PM
Its a team rebound but Tyson does not get credit for it.


Ahhh how would it be considered a personal rebound? If both hands touch the ball?

nickdymez
01-04-2013, 07:47 PM
Ahhh how would it be considered a personal rebound? If both hands touch the ball?

Its a rebound if the player controls the tip... look up the rule.

krisxsong
01-04-2013, 07:53 PM
I think it should be a rebound.

He could bring the rebound down with him but he chooses to to simply tip it back to his guard

Jesse2272
01-04-2013, 07:55 PM
Leethal is correct

Team rebound not player

KnickaBocka.44
01-04-2013, 07:59 PM
Its a team rebound but Tyson does not get credit for it.

Does the player who controls it after he tips it get credit?

dtmagnet
01-04-2013, 07:59 PM
I thought the player who catches the tap out gets credited for the rebound? Jose Calderon got his final rebound for a triple double off of a tapout.

DrDre94
01-04-2013, 08:00 PM
Does the player who controls it after he tips it get credit?

Yes.

nickdymez
01-04-2013, 08:00 PM
Wrong.

KnickaBocka.44
01-04-2013, 08:01 PM
Yes.

Well then the Knick guards should be giving him props for padding their stats haha

IndyRealist
01-04-2013, 08:02 PM
Its a team rebound but Tyson does not get credit for it.

That's not what a team rebound is. A team rebound is when the shot misses and goes out of bounds without anyone gaining possession.


A team rebound is awarded when no individual secures the rebound of a missed shot. The statistic has little meaning -- its existence is primarily to ensure that the total number of rebounds equals the total number of missed shots, despite the fact that some shots don't have what one would normally consider a rebound.

KnickaBocka.44
01-04-2013, 08:02 PM
Wrong.

If you wouldn't mind linking where you got the contrasting info it might be helpful.

TheNumber37
01-04-2013, 08:06 PM
I don't think it should be, because He doesn't have control of the ball.

I mean, you can tap it out, but if an opposing player catches it, does it count as a steal for them and a turnover for Chandler?
If it does, he should gets the rebound, if it isn't a rebound for Chandler, then it's still a loose ball for everyone in play? Can't have 2 rebounds from 1 shot attempt.

Sactown
01-04-2013, 08:08 PM
The NBA rule is, if it's a controlled tip it goes to the tipper, if it is a random tip where the tipper did not have control of it, it goes to the benefactor.

nickdymez
01-04-2013, 08:09 PM
If you wouldn't mind linking where you got the contrasting info it might be helpful.

**** you

nickdymez
01-04-2013, 08:10 PM
The NBA rule is, if it's a controlled tip it goes to the tipper, if it is a random tip where the tipper did not have control of it, it goes to the benefactor.

Bingo!

IndyRealist
01-04-2013, 08:11 PM
To answer the question, it varies. Different stats keepers may award a tap out to Chandler, while others may award it to the player who actually gains control of the ball. The same thing happens with steals: one guy may poke the ball away into the hands of his teammate. In that case, usually the 2nd guy gets credit for the steal.

b@llhog24
01-04-2013, 08:13 PM
**** you

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

KnickaBocka.44
01-04-2013, 08:15 PM
The NBA rule is, if it's a controlled tip it goes to the tipper, if it is a random tip where the tipper did not have control of it, it goes to the benefactor.

A lot of the time Chandler's tips are far from controlled though, he just slaps the ball out a lot.


**** you

You're a dick, sir.

IDunknown
01-04-2013, 08:16 PM
That's not what a team rebound is. A team rebound is when the shot misses and goes out of bounds without anyone gaining possession.

I just read that too.Tyson should get credit for a rebound.

Swift Game
01-04-2013, 08:16 PM
I know more players than him do it, but he does it the most out of anyone in the league today, that quick slap/tap of the ball to the back court once somebody misses a shot. Is that considered a rebound on the stat sheets? His hand does touch the ball...and it does control where it goes..just not very well...

Sure....but only in volleyball.

IDunknown
01-04-2013, 08:20 PM
I think those that said it's up to the scorer are right.

ManRam
01-04-2013, 08:22 PM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Rule #1: Don't ever ask Nickdymez to provide something to back up his claim.

Sactown
01-04-2013, 08:23 PM
A lot of the time Chandler's tips are far from controlled though, he just slaps the ball out a lot.



You're a dick, sir.

It's the scorers decision as whether it's controlled or not, but the NBA can come back in if they see the scorer gave Tyson to much credit or not enough.

Same goes with assists, I remember the scorers table registering like 25 assists? for Collision and the NBA came back and said he actually had like 17, but like I said the official rules state

If it's a controlled tip it belongs to the tipper, and if it's uncontrolled it belongs to the benefactor..

justinnum1
01-04-2013, 08:23 PM
should be

netsgiantsyanks
01-05-2013, 08:08 AM
**** you

then shut your mouth.

Jesse2272
01-05-2013, 08:32 AM
I cant find a clear definition and have learned to hate etc.

Swashcuff
01-05-2013, 08:43 AM
Rule #1: Don't ever ask Nickdymez to provide something to back up his claim.

Said it before and I'll say it again, its like asking Elton John to start having sex with women. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

Jesse2272
01-05-2013, 08:55 AM
said it before and i'll say it again, its like asking elton john to start having sex with women. Never going to happen!!!

lmfao

Kashmir13579
01-05-2013, 10:33 AM
Its a team rebound but Tyson does not get credit for it.

Its a hockey rebound :D

NYKnickFanatic
01-05-2013, 10:43 AM
He does get credited for a rebound. Mike Breen says it all the time.

lamzoka
01-05-2013, 11:25 AM
It's not a rebound, it's a loose ball. Even if the ball crosses midcourt anybody could get it without being called for backcourt violation.

blahblahyoutoo
01-05-2013, 11:32 AM
I think it should be a rebound.

He could bring the rebound down with him but he chooses to to simply tip it back to his guard

no he can't, which is why he taps it back instead.

Jesse2272
01-05-2013, 11:50 AM
Its a hockey rebound :D

ill take it all day everyday

I hate your avatar

JasonJohnHorn
01-05-2013, 12:47 PM
I read an article by a score keeper (which I posted a week or so ago) and in it scorekeepers are givien the latitude to decide who gets the rebound, the guy who slapped it, or the get who gets control over it. Generally they give it to the front court player though (the guy who slapped it). This guy said, essentially, if Rodman slaps a rebound out to Steve Kerr, they give it to Rodman, because Kerr doesn't need the rebound.

If it is a tighter situation, like a cuple of big guys are going after it, one tips it but the ball stays in the area, and somebody else grabs is, then the guy who grabs it will get the rebound.

But yeah... I think most score keepers would reward the guy who slapped it to the teammate with the rebound.

nycericanguy
01-05-2013, 01:12 PM
I dont think its a rebound in most cases because Tyson does it when he can't grab it. He'd be averaging like 14rpg if they gave him credit for those.

Far and away the best player in the NBA at doing that... gives NY at least 3-4 extra posessions per game.