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Fresno
01-04-2013, 05:18 PM
But the Grizzlies are about $4 million over the luxury tax, staring at a very expensive four-man core that, if left intact, could take Memphis over the tax line in this season and the following two.


All of this explains why Memphis, over the last few weeks, has made it known in preliminary talks with other teams that Rudy Gay could be available via trade, according to sources around the league. Memphis also has a brand-new ownership and a revamped front office; John Hollinger and Jason Levien are in, longtime personnel gurus the Barones are out, and Chris Wallace’s current level of power as holdover GM is unclear. They can also cite their exciting 2011 playoff run without Gay, though that run involved a superhuman performance from Zach Randolph, a very good matchup in San Antonio, and a much deeper wing core with actual shooters.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/report-grizzlies-testing-waters-for-potential-rudy-gay-trade/

Knew this was coming with Hollinger now in the Front Office.

He's always been highly critical of Rudy Gay's game using his analytics claiming he is one dimensional & too inefficient for his usage rate.

krisxsong
01-04-2013, 05:20 PM
Good luck with that contract.

douglas
01-04-2013, 05:21 PM
It would be crazy if Rudy Gay got traded because then he wouldn't be on the Memphis Grizzlies anymore.

nyKnicks126
01-04-2013, 05:23 PM
lol duh..

nyKnicks126
01-04-2013, 05:23 PM
But anyway.. He should go the the Nets..

DreamShaker
01-04-2013, 05:24 PM
Deng for Gay. I can see it happening.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-04-2013, 05:24 PM
It would be crazy if Rudy Gay got traded because then he wouldn't be on the Memphis Grizzlies anymore.

Ehh. Not as good as your other material.

Alayla
01-04-2013, 05:25 PM
...hm Turner Dorell wright and lavoy allen? idk XD

Gators123
01-04-2013, 05:26 PM
Pistons can give a whole bunch of expiring contracts for him :)

Cal827
01-04-2013, 05:29 PM
BC is probably gonna try and jump on this lol

Zefflin
01-04-2013, 05:30 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

haha

tripleplay2007
01-04-2013, 05:30 PM
I hope he goes to Minny so he can play with Kevin Love.

Everyone will fear the Gay/Love tandem.

ichitownclowni
01-04-2013, 05:30 PM
Deng for Gay. I can see it happening.

No way. Bulls love Deng and Thibs does to. Pointless to ruin chemistry

heyman321
01-04-2013, 05:31 PM
Bargnani/Calderon for Gay

Hellcrooner
01-04-2013, 05:31 PM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/report-grizzlies-testing-waters-for-potential-rudy-gay-trade/

Knew this was coming with Hollinger now in the Front Office.

He's always been highly critical of Rudy Gay's game using his analytics claiming he is one dimensional & too inefficient for his usage rate.

Well he is right, so whatever.

Fresno
01-04-2013, 05:31 PM
Typical Rudy Gay season this year at 18 PPG 6 RPG on 41% from the field

The whole idea of him breaking out into a superstar isn't going to happen.

Hard to find a good deal for him because his contract is terrible being owed $16 Million this season, $18 Million next season, and $19 Million in the final year of his deal

Dallas doesnt really care about bad contracts if they get a big name

How about this:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=amckmja

JOhnnyTHaJet
01-04-2013, 05:32 PM
It would be crazy if Rudy Gay got traded because then he wouldn't be on the Memphis Grizzlies anymore.

This. 1000%.

wordup45
01-04-2013, 05:35 PM
Ehh. Not as good as your other material.

Material? There is no material, he just reiterates the obvious and that's what makes it great.

Patrick Ewing33
01-04-2013, 05:36 PM
Bring him to the Timberwolves. Rubio/Gay/Love would be great.

Colts_4_life
01-04-2013, 05:38 PM
John Wall/Rudy Gay :)

Fresno
01-04-2013, 05:38 PM
Pistons can give a whole bunch of expiring contracts for him :)

Tayshaun Prince, Austin Daye & Rodney Stuckey for Rudy Gay & Wayne Ellington?

Fair?

Hellcrooner
01-04-2013, 05:39 PM
ON related news, is funny to see how the Superluxury tax that it was supposed to be impelmented to **** big markets, instead is forcing a growing conteder on a small market to have to BREAK up the core because of it whilst lakers or knicks couldnt care less bout said superluxury tax because they make enough BENEFIT to make up for it..

Raps18-19 Champ
01-04-2013, 05:39 PM
Material? There is no material, he just reiterates the obvious and that's what makes it great.

Wasn't that funny.

tripleplay2007
01-04-2013, 05:39 PM
Bargnani/Calderon for Gay

How does this make since for Memphis when they are getting rid of the guy for not being efficient enough.

shep33
01-04-2013, 05:41 PM
Lowry + bargs? Monta + fillers?

Hellcrooner
01-04-2013, 05:41 PM
an interesting thing would be trying to trade ZACH for a Sf and trading gay for PAu to reunite the Bearded Bros.

FriedTofuz
01-04-2013, 05:43 PM
hes not good defensively. paul george is better than rudy gay

Everymanalion
01-04-2013, 05:43 PM
Wolves are out because Gay is not white.

Everymanalion
01-04-2013, 05:45 PM
Lakers/Memphis/Minnesota 3 Way Trade

Lakers Trade:
Pau Gasol
Lakers Recieve:
Rudy Gay

Memphis Trades:
Rudy Gay
Memphis Recieves:
Alexy Shved
Derrick Williams

Minnesota Trades
Alexy Shved
Derrick Williams

Minnesota recieves:
Pau Gasol

KnickaBocka.44
01-04-2013, 05:45 PM
ON related news, is funny to see how the Superluxury tax that it was supposed to be impelmented to **** big markets, instead is forcing a growing conteder on a small market to have to BREAK up the core because of it whilst lakers or knicks couldnt care less bout said superluxury tax because they make enough BENEFIT to make up for it..

I'm pretty sure thats exactly why they didn't re-sign Lin.

krisxsong
01-04-2013, 05:46 PM
But anyway.. He should go the the Nets..

Unless we give up Joe Johnson there's no way we can get him, although I would love to have him.

Williams
Johnson
Gay
Wallace
Lopez

Yikes that would be awesome.

SpeedyRecovery
01-04-2013, 05:46 PM
Bargnani/Calderon for Gay

might as well throw in one of our other 3's while your at it. they can have Linas too!

Hellcrooner
01-04-2013, 05:47 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ab7t9tk

ILLUSIONIST^248
01-04-2013, 05:47 PM
It would be crazy if Rudy Gay got traded because then he wouldn't be on the Memphis Grizzlies anymore.

UHHH? lol

el hidalgo
01-04-2013, 05:48 PM
IMO, the wolves should look into a Gay trade opportunity with the Lakers. Swap him for Metta. Mitch Kupchick is known for raping, so a Gay swap would be right down his alley.

Hellcrooner
01-04-2013, 05:48 PM
I'm pretty sure thats exactly why they didn't re-sign Lin.

If he had been Rose or westbrook they would ahve not cared.
They obviously knew that kind of money for Lin wasnt worthy of it.

I Am Awesome-O
01-04-2013, 05:50 PM
IMO, the wolves should look into a Gay trade opportunity with the Lakers. Swap him for Metta. Mitch Kupchick is known for raping, so a Gay swap would be right down his alley.

Yeah, no. Metta won't get LA ****.

BayAreaBorn
01-04-2013, 05:51 PM
Good luck with that contract.

Well if somebody was dumb enough to take joe Johnson's contract they'll take Rudy gays

Fresno
01-04-2013, 05:51 PM
ON related news, is funny to see how the Superluxury tax that it was supposed to be impelmented to **** big markets, instead is forcing a growing conteder on a small market to have to BREAK up the core because of it whilst lakers or knicks couldnt care less bout said superluxury tax because they make enough BENEFIT to make up for it..

Well thats what happens when you have players outperform their contracts and decide to overpay them thinking you will be a contender with that same core in place except Memphis hasn't.

They let OJ Mayo walk and he only signed a deal for $4 Million.

tripleplay2007
01-04-2013, 05:51 PM
Wolves are out because Gay is not white.

But he's Gay.

Hellcrooner
01-04-2013, 05:51 PM
A possible suitor would be the blazers, Since Batum can play the sg spot.

It would be Wes Mathews, Claver ( replacemente sf) , Jeffries to fill the salary and a pick i guess.

KnickaBocka.44
01-04-2013, 05:53 PM
IMO, the wolves should look into a Gay trade opportunity with the Lakers. Swap him for Metta. Mitch Kupchick is known for raping, so a Gay swap would be right down his alley.

A Gay raping? :rimshot:


But seriously, that will never happen

Fresno
01-04-2013, 05:53 PM
Lakers/Memphis/Minnesota 3 Way Trade

Lakers Trade:
Pau Gasol
Lakers Recieve:
Rudy Gay

Memphis Trades:
Rudy Gay
Memphis Recieves:
Alexy Shved
Derrick Williams

Minnesota Trades
Alexy Shved
Derrick Williams

Minnesota recieves:
Pau Gasol

Doesn't work salary-wise.

Minnesota doesn't have the cap room unless giving up 2-3 other players.

Everymanalion
01-04-2013, 05:54 PM
A Gay raping? :rimshot:


But seriously, that will never happen


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

nyKnicks126
01-04-2013, 05:55 PM
Wolves are out because Gay is not white.

Was that comment necessary?

Everymanalion
01-04-2013, 05:56 PM
Was that comment necessary?


Are you even questioning this? They like white players. I did not know anyone didn't accept this by now.

Fresno
01-04-2013, 05:57 PM
A possible suitor would be the blazers, Since Batum can play the sg spot.

It would be Wes Mathews, Claver ( replacemente sf) , Jeffries to fill the salary and a pick i guess.
Claver sucks in the NBA. Dont be a homer.

How does Wes Matthews fit into the Grizzlies when he doesn't play SF?

el hidalgo
01-04-2013, 05:57 PM
Lakers/Memphis/Minnesota 3 Way Trade

Lakers Trade:
Pau Gasol
Lakers Recieve:
Rudy Gay

Memphis Trades:
Rudy Gay
Memphis Recieves:
Alexy Shved
Derrick Williams

Minnesota Trades
Alexy Shved
Derrick Williams

Minnesota recieves:
Pau Gasol
I like your Gay 3 way idea

Everymanalion
01-04-2013, 06:00 PM
I like your Gay 3 way idea



:clap:

mynameismo
01-04-2013, 06:03 PM
I hope he goes to Minny so he can play with Kevin Love.

Everyone will fear the Gay/Love tandem.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Hellcrooner
01-04-2013, 06:03 PM
Claver sucks in the NBA. Dont be a homer.

How does Wes Matthews fit into the Grizzlies when he doesn't play SF?

tony allen plays sf .

el hidalgo
01-04-2013, 06:05 PM
tony allen plays sf .

GTFO no he doesnt

tripleplay2007
01-04-2013, 06:06 PM
Are you even questioning this? They like white players. I did not know anyone didn't accept this by now.

Maybe all the other franchises just like black players?

nyKnicks126
01-04-2013, 06:12 PM
Are you even questioning this? They like white players. I did not know anyone didn't accept this by now.

No just questioning your ignorance; and unnecassary comments, don't know why race should be involved in this topic really?

If another person said Oh this team only takes black people there would have been a huge case here.. Just saying..

Iron24th
01-04-2013, 06:14 PM
I hope he goes to Minny so he can play with Kevin Love.

Everyone will fear the Gay/Love tandem.

Love your sig.

Batum had some balls to do it.

Gators123
01-04-2013, 06:14 PM
Tayshaun Prince, Austin Daye & Rodney Stuckey for Rudy Gay & Wayne Ellington?

Fair?

I would do it. Obviously taking on his contract is a big risk, but I would love for the Pistons to have an athletic wing capable of scoring 20 points a night.

lakersfan01
01-04-2013, 06:15 PM
Unite the Gasol brothers lol

thephoenixson28
01-04-2013, 06:16 PM
Phoenix needs a Go-to-scorer. Rudy Gay will fill that void really good.

raiderposting
01-04-2013, 06:17 PM
warriors should trade barnes and biedrins or something.

Healthy bogut
lee
gay
thompson
curry

Key bench pieces in Jack and Landry.

That is a hell of a team.

lakersfan01
01-04-2013, 06:17 PM
I like your Gay 3 way idea

What are you doing in Kobe's basement? :whistle:

69centers
01-04-2013, 06:22 PM
As soon as Gay gets traded, his stats go from 18PPG down to 12-14. Book it. He's not that good -- he's just on a balanced scoring team with no stud scorer. Memphis knows they can get someone better.

torocan
01-04-2013, 06:28 PM
If he had been Rose or westbrook they would ahve not cared.
They obviously knew that kind of money for Lin wasnt worthy of it.

Uh, how many players in the NBA are worth $40M in year 3? How about $40M, and being over the luxury tax apron? IE, no S&T's, and the loss of the bi-annual and MLE/Mini-MLE in terms of roster flexibility?

Arguing that Lin isn't Rose or Westbrook is silly. He's a young player with upside. They WERE willing to shell out 5/5/9/9. In other words, they were willing to pay over $25M in year 3 in luxury taxes + salary (60% more than Rose makes in a year).

It wasn't Lin's salary that made the Knicks walk, it was the Luxury tax and tax apron roster implications.

Badluck33
01-04-2013, 06:30 PM
This thread is so Gay.

TheNumber37
01-04-2013, 06:31 PM
Derrick Williams deal
Eric Gordon deal
Nets (because they could use some shaking up)

Magic, Suns and Bobcats could make a play.

VinceCarter
01-04-2013, 06:33 PM
Bargnani/Calderon for Gay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK7lIjFsGvg

Yunqn
01-04-2013, 06:36 PM
Deng & hamilton for gay & ellington

Or

Deng & hinrich for gay ..

Bulls have to cut ties with either hamilton or hinrich to avoid paying the tax..

SDvikes
01-04-2013, 06:37 PM
Lakers/Memphis/Minnesota 3 Way Trade

Lakers Trade:
Pau Gasol
Lakers Recieve:
Rudy Gay

Memphis Trades:
Rudy Gay
Memphis Recieves:
Alexy Shved
Derrick Williams

Minnesota Trades
Alexy Shved
Derrick Williams

Minnesota recieves:
Pau Gasol

MN should just trade Sved and Willams for Gay ....we need him not Gasol

KniCks4LiFe
01-04-2013, 06:49 PM
He could wind up on Golden State, Boston or Chicago, another possibility would be imo Orlando.

Victimize
01-04-2013, 06:56 PM
He could wind up on Golden State, Boston or Chicago, another possibility would be imo Orlando.

Although Gay would be a good fit on the warriors, I would rather develop Barnes on a much friendlier contract.

TrueFan420
01-04-2013, 06:56 PM
He could wind up on Golden State, Boston or Chicago, another possibility would be imo Orlando.

Don't see Warriors pursuing don't want to mess up their team chemistry

carruthers32
01-04-2013, 07:00 PM
BC is probably gonna try and jump on this lol

Yep, he wants a SF baaaad

FlashMacker
01-04-2013, 07:00 PM
This thread is so Gay.

:laugh2: hahahahaha

shep33
01-04-2013, 07:04 PM
Rudy has an absolutely horrible contract. 16.5 mill this year, 18 mill next year, and 19.3 the year after that.

denverfan66
01-04-2013, 07:04 PM
At first site Denver seems like a fit. More consistent than Gallinari and would probably succeed in a fastbreak offense. Can close games also.

shep33
01-04-2013, 07:07 PM
Miller + Gallo for Rudy?

LongWayFromHome
01-04-2013, 07:08 PM
Typical Rudy Gay season this year at 18 PPG 6 RPG on 41% from the field

The whole idea of him breaking out into a superstar isn't going to happen.

Hard to find a good deal for him because his contract is terrible being owed $16 Million this season, $18 Million next season, and $19 Million in the final year of his deal

Dallas doesnt really care about bad contracts if they get a big name

How about this:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=amckmja

This is a TERRIBLE trade for Dallas. As a Mavs fan I would turn that down without a thought.

denverfan66
01-04-2013, 07:09 PM
Miller + Gallo for Rudy?

I'd do that.

Sota4Ever
01-04-2013, 07:09 PM
Shved is going nowhere

Swift Game
01-04-2013, 07:14 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=byhlmxb

Fair trade for all parties . wolves already offered those guys straight up. memphis would get a dolid pf and an unproven risk with williams.

*Silver&Black*
01-04-2013, 07:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK7lIjFsGvg

Your sig is funny, but there was no other reason for that ref to do that other than to get face time. NBA refs think they are stars of the league.

Mr_Amaziing
01-04-2013, 07:15 PM
Trade Gay for Pau Gasol

Then Memphis would have both the Gasols :)

akagiredsuns
01-04-2013, 07:17 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ab7t9tk

Anything to boost the Lakers and bring Memphis down. They don't need to be anymore of a super team. This is just gonna be flat out unfair.

bolts4ever
01-04-2013, 07:24 PM
GRIZZget:
Monta Ellis(11 mill player option for 2013-14 last year of deal)
Mettah World Peace(7.7mill player option for 2013-14 final year of deal)

Bucks get:
Pau Gasol
Tony Allen

Lakers get:
Rudy Gay
Samuel Dalembert
Darrell Arthur

Lo Porto
01-04-2013, 07:31 PM
Paul Millsap and Marvin Williams for Rudy Gay and Memphis' 2013 1st.

Why for Memphis: They add two good players for Gay while also unloading his awful contract. They probably don't want to lose that draft pick, but it's sure to be in the 20's after this trade.

Why for Utah: They stand to lose Millsap for nothing this summer. Marvin has just been okay for the Jazz. Rudy Gay is a SF type like Utah hasn't had since Daryl Griffith. The draft pick makes absorbing Gay's contract worth it.

lakersiznumber1
01-04-2013, 07:34 PM
GRIZZget:
Monta Ellis(11 mill player option for 2013-14 last year of deal)
Mettah World Peace(7.7mill player option for 2013-14 final year of deal)

Bucks get:
Pau Gasol
Tony Allen

Lakers get:
Rudy Gay
Samuel Dalembert
Darrell Arthur

lol no way when was the last time you see lakers get raped in a deal. this is not happening

5ass
01-04-2013, 07:34 PM
Paul Millsap and Marvin Williams for Rudy Gay and Memphis' 2013 1st.

Why for Memphis: They add two good players for Gay while also unloading his awful contract. They probably don't want to lose that draft pick, but it's sure to be in the 20's after this trade.

Why for Utah: They stand to lose Millsap for nothing this summer. Marvin has just been okay for the Jazz. Rudy Gay is a SF type like Utah hasn't had since Daryl Griffith. The draft pick makes absorbing Gay's contract worth it.

marvin williams has a bad contract, but thats a solid trade proposal imo

sammyvine
01-04-2013, 07:36 PM
how the hell did memphis pay him max?

NIM21
01-04-2013, 07:40 PM
Um absolutely :)


Tayshaun Prince, Austin Daye & Rodney Stuckey for Rudy Gay & Wayne Ellington?

Fair?

Monta is beast
01-04-2013, 07:43 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bjfhnn7

Blitzbolt
01-04-2013, 07:48 PM
As a Grizz fan I don't want him to go but if we trade him we should get Thadd Young and Dorell Wright from the sixers or something similar.

As in right now Rudy is the only SF in the roster(the other is injured)so we need one back and a 3 point shooter.

No Cs or PFs because we already have a lot of them.

Il Mago50
01-04-2013, 07:51 PM
I don't know who trades for Rudy's massive contract honestly. It seems like something we'd (Raptors) do but I just don't see enough to attract Memphis into doing a deal with us. Bargnani would be a great bench player for them and Calderon would be a good fit too as a backup but you need to fill that SF hole with him gone and they really have no one behind Rudy currently that can step into that role.

I can see:

Monte Ellis and fillers for Rudy

Eric Gordon for Rudy

dtmagnet
01-04-2013, 08:13 PM
I know the Raptors will be all over this.

sfattahian
01-04-2013, 08:23 PM
I hope he goes to Minny so he can play with Kevin Love.

Everyone will fear the Gay/Love tandem.

lol clever, I hope it happens :clap:

ryder78c
01-04-2013, 08:25 PM
Matthews,Clavers,Freeland,Picks,Fillers(not Named Aldridge,Lillard,Hickson,Batum,Leonard)

Hickson/Leonard
Aldridge/
Gay/Babbitt
Batum/Barton
Lillard/Price

Swift Game
01-04-2013, 08:31 PM
Matthews,Clavers,Freeland,Picks,Fillers(not Named Aldridge,Lillard,Hickson,Batum,Leonard)

Hickson/Leonard
Aldridge/
Gay/Babbitt
Batum/Barton
Lillard/Price

Nice try. Would not mind Gay in Portland but would surely need to give up one their main three. Does Portland need more Gay?

Sssmush
01-04-2013, 08:31 PM
Pau !!!

Hawkeye15
01-04-2013, 08:54 PM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/report-grizzlies-testing-waters-for-potential-rudy-gay-trade/

Knew this was coming with Hollinger now in the Front Office.

He's always been highly critical of Rudy Gay's game using his analytics claiming he is one dimensional & too inefficient for his usage rate.

uh, but he is....

Hawkeye15
01-04-2013, 08:59 PM
As soon as Gay gets traded, his stats go from 18PPG down to 12-14. Book it. He's not that good -- he's just on a balanced scoring team with no stud scorer. Memphis knows they can get someone better.

they just need to get under the tax, and you can find a replacement for him far cheaper.

Blink
01-04-2013, 09:17 PM
As big as Gays contract is..we need seats in Detroit pretty bad.

Blitzbolt
01-04-2013, 09:23 PM
People use to say the same about OJ Mayo but alot of people don't know how BAD the Grizzlies offensive system is I bet Rudy's average goes up if he gets traded.

smith&wesson
01-04-2013, 09:49 PM
a one dimensional player who is too inefficient for his usage rate and is owed 16.4 million this year, 17.8 million next year, and 19.3 million the year after that. yep sounds like a perfect fit in toronto, bring him on!! lol

shep33
01-04-2013, 10:10 PM
a one dimensional player who is too inefficient for his usage rate and is owed 16.4 million this year, 17.8 million next year, and 19.3 million the year after that. yep sounds like a perfect fit in toronto, bring him on!! lol

This.

I like Rudy Gay, but his salary reflects that of a superstar, which he clearly isn't

mzgrizz
01-04-2013, 10:16 PM
Not likely to happen guys

IndyRealist
01-04-2013, 10:19 PM
People use to say the same about OJ Mayo but alot of people don't know how BAD the Grizzlies offensive system is I bet Rudy's average goes up if he gets traded.

It's not bad, it's just not kind to perimeter players. If you have Zach Randolph, you build your offense around Zach Randolph.

spreadeagle
01-04-2013, 10:21 PM
I hope he goes to Minny so he can play with Kevin Love.

Everyone will fear the Gay/Love tandem.

bahahahaha

spreadeagle
01-04-2013, 10:23 PM
I don't know who trades for Rudy's massive contract honestly. It seems like something we'd (Raptors) do but I just don't see enough to attract Memphis into doing a deal with us. Bargnani would be a great bench player for them and Calderon would be a good fit too as a backup but you need to fill that SF hole with him gone and they really have no one behind Rudy currently that can step into that role.

I can see:

Monte Ellis and fillers for Rudy

Eric Gordon for Rudy

Bargnani LowryPietrus for Gay and other small contract

Phenomenonsense
01-04-2013, 10:49 PM
If the Grizz are interested in getting out of salary I would Trade Maggette/Bynum/Prince for Gay/Selby (or anyone they wanted to throw in really, Selby doesn't matter to me).

With Maggette/Bynum they get sparky bench guys who are both expiring contracts, and they get Prince who can play in a system just like gay.

bucketss
01-04-2013, 11:05 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

haha

learn how to post links to the actual trade man:facepalm:

Blitzbolt
01-04-2013, 11:06 PM
Bargnani LowryPietrus for Gay and other small contract

HAHAHA this is a pretty funny trade idea.

We traded away Lowry because he got mad at us and ask for a trade(+He is not welcome here)
Bargnani is SOFT(not the Grizzlies type of player at all)and we don't need any Cs or PFs.

rocket
01-04-2013, 11:21 PM
It would be crazy if Rudy Gay got traded because then he wouldn't be on the Memphis Grizzlies anymore.

Even though I hate every time you do this, this one was funny lol.

WestCoastSportz
01-04-2013, 11:29 PM
How about Rudy Gay to the Hawks for Josh Smith and Kyle Korver. Josh Smith is a unrestricted free agent and the Hawks could be scared he'd sign somewhere else without them getting any compensation.

MrfadeawayJB
01-04-2013, 11:44 PM
How about Rudy Gay to the Hawks for Josh Smith and Kyle Korver. Josh Smith is a unrestricted free agent and the Hawks could be scared he'd sign somewhere else without them getting any compensation.

yes please


however i like the idea of getting back Barnes from Golden state...

thechom80
01-04-2013, 11:52 PM
I hope he goes to Minny so he can play with Kevin Love.

Everyone will fear the Gay/Love tandem.

Don't forget Alexey Shved. "Sexy/Gay/Love"

Sounds hot.

popo85
01-04-2013, 11:58 PM
Bargnani/Calderon for Gay

So they can have 3 slow bigs:confused:

Rudy has to be traded either for a shooter or wing athletic player.

thechom80
01-05-2013, 12:02 AM
Are you even questioning this? They like white players. I did not know anyone didn't accept this by now.

Get over it. That joke has run it's course. Seeing as you made that comment, you yourself, haven't accepted it.

I Am Awesome-O
01-05-2013, 12:10 AM
I think Monta Ellis is exactly what the Grizzlies need.

I'd be all for a Gay for Ellis/Harris swap.

MrfadeawayJB
01-05-2013, 12:21 AM
I think Monta Ellis is exactly what the Grizzlies need.

I'd be all for a Gay for Ellis/Harris swap.

And slide Allen to the three? I have confidence he can defend the position but what happens when he has to guard the Melo's, Durant's or Lebrons of the world

C-Dub
01-05-2013, 12:25 AM
anyone see the nuggets gettin involved? could send mozzy and chandler/brewer or gallo? whatever the contracts work up to

C-Dub
01-05-2013, 12:26 AM
And slide Allen to the three? I have confidence he can defend the position but what happens when he has to guard the Melo's, Durant's or Lebrons of the world

harris is a 3, allen would be d off the bench

C-Dub
01-05-2013, 12:28 AM
I think Monta Ellis is exactly what the Grizzlies need.

I'd be all for a Gay for Ellis/Harris swap.

this^ #ftd

i actually worked for the moving company that had all monta's stuff when he got traded to Mil. one of my favorite players to watch but when he came in he was kinda a jerk! lol

MrfadeawayJB
01-05-2013, 12:31 AM
harris is a 3, allen would be d off the bench

Harris sucks though doesnt he lol



or is that just 2K speaking....can he shoot the three ball?

C-Dub
01-05-2013, 12:38 AM
^hes actually a pretty good player. not quite sure if he can shoot the 3 or not, havent see him play enough. im a die hard nuggets fan, bucks fan when the nuggs aint playin lol

C-Dub
01-05-2013, 12:43 AM
the bucks could add dalembert too if needed. the grizz could end up with tons of depth in a trade with the bucks or nuggets!

KniCks4LiFe
01-05-2013, 12:57 AM
Here's my scenerios.

trade 1 (http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bamnccp)

trade 2 (http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bpzokrg)

emman03
01-05-2013, 12:59 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ao2wr3h + philly 1st

bucks gets their good replacement in sg and get gay at sf
memphis gets monta and shooting 3pt at sf in miller + philly 1st
miami gets dalembert a center they needed to pair bosh to get rebound and block shots

bucks
sanders/udoh
mbah a moute/gooden
gay/ilyasova
ellington/daniels
jennings/udrih

memphis
gasol/speights
randolph/arthur
miller/pondexter
ellis/allen
conley/bayless

heat
dalembert/anthony
bosh/haslem/lewis
james/battier/jones
wade/allen
chalmers/cole

not bad for the 3 teams

Chronz
01-05-2013, 01:00 AM
Here's my scenerios.

trade 1 (http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bamnccp)

trade 2 (http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bpzokrg)
Whats the incentive for teams outside of LA?

C-Dub
01-05-2013, 01:02 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ao2wr3h + philly 1st

bucks gets their good replacement in sg and get gay at sf
memphis gets monta and shooting 3pt at sf in miller + philly 1st
miami gets dalembert a center they needed to pair bosh to get rebound and block shots

i like the trade but i feel like memphis will feel screwed in that one

KniCks4LiFe
01-05-2013, 01:05 AM
Whats the incentive for teams outside of LA?

Smith isn't staying in ATL, Memphis gets a trade chip or ATL gets one. Gasol or Gay are still tradeable and playable.

emman03
01-05-2013, 01:11 AM
i like the trade but i feel like memphis will feel screwed in that one

i don't think so man imagine they dump gay's huge contract and they get a star in the name of ellis then ellington's 3pt ability will replace by miller a proven one i dont think the memphis got screwed the game card here is the philly's first round a possible 13-18 pick and miami is not a team that needs rookie to experiment on they need proven veteran players to help them to their another championship run buddy!!

Giannis94
01-05-2013, 01:34 AM
this^ #ftd

i actually worked for the moving company that had all monta's stuff when he got traded to Mil. one of my favorite players to watch but when he came in he was kinda a jerk! lol

Can you ship Monta Back? He sucks.

kenzo400
01-05-2013, 01:53 AM
I like the GS proposal. At the very least Memphis would be getting back a young promising player. As a Raptors fan, I used to be in love with the idea of getting Gay. Now, I wouldn't even give up Derozan for him. It's too bad that Memphis waited this long. At this point, I think Gay's value has dropped pretty significantly from last season.

TheSource
01-05-2013, 01:59 AM
This would show whether the Warriors are serious about winning, and winning now.

spreadeagle
01-05-2013, 02:01 AM
I like the GS proposal. At the very least Memphis would be getting back a young promising player. As a Raptors fan, I used to be in love with the idea of getting Gay. Now, I wouldn't even give up Derozan for him. It's too bad that Memphis waited this long. At this point, I think Gay's value has dropped pretty significantly from last season.

:clap:

kenzo400
01-05-2013, 02:05 AM
:clap:

lol

MrfadeawayJB
01-05-2013, 02:47 AM
I like the GS proposal. At the very least Memphis would be getting back a young promising player. As a Raptors fan, I used to be in love with the idea of getting Gay. Now, I wouldn't even give up Derozan for him. It's too bad that Memphis waited this long. At this point, I think Gay's value has dropped pretty significantly from last season.

Gay for Ross and fillers?

ssr2020
01-05-2013, 02:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aqe8gjm
i think something along those lines would make sense

c.c.
01-05-2013, 03:24 AM
I would like to see him on the Rockets but his contract his quite big and Chandler Parsons is playing solid. We shouldn't traded our rights to him in the first place!

lilojmayo
01-05-2013, 04:30 AM
Darren Collison+Shawn Marion for Rudy Gay

Becks2307
01-05-2013, 04:57 AM
HOly **** Rudy Gay is going to be making 19 million in 3 years? lol thats the same as melo is making right now.

Chronz
01-05-2013, 05:00 AM
Smith isn't staying in ATL, Memphis gets a trade chip or ATL gets one. Gasol or Gay are still tradeable and playable.
So you have inside info on what Smith is doing? I heard the opposite, that Atlanta laughs at such a swap and that they would much rather have the cap flexibility that comes with him leaving than be tied to Pau Gasol

Memphis gets a trade chip? In which scenario?
They have a better trade chip IMO, all this would do is downgrade from Rudy to Pau and in the Smith trade they get someone who doesn't fit their team as well.

These dont pass the sniff test

poleandreel
01-05-2013, 05:19 AM
gay for andre miller/wilson chandler/mcgee

GSRaider
01-05-2013, 05:52 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=alrtrmb


lol

MTar786
01-05-2013, 05:56 AM
nuggets get pau and blake
grizzlies get iggy
lakers get gay and galo

add fillers and picks if neccesary

faridk89
01-05-2013, 05:58 AM
BC is probably gonna try and jump on this lol

What I was thinking

ramsizzle
01-05-2013, 06:59 AM
Deng + Rip for Gay plus filler. Maybe even swap of firsts

krisxsong
01-05-2013, 07:04 AM
Deng + Rip for Gay plus filler. Maybe even swap of firsts

Are the Grizzlies trying to just dump salary?

If they are this is a good deal.

kobe4thewinbang
01-05-2013, 07:22 AM
Gay must've had a great agent to get him that overpriced deal. He's sufficient, but nothing special.

Heediot
01-05-2013, 09:54 AM
3 way trade with GS for Barnes & Biedrins

Heediot
01-05-2013, 09:55 AM
nuggets get @$$raped
grizzlies get iggy
lakers get gay and galo

add fillers and picks if neccesary

fixed

mjt20mik
01-05-2013, 10:03 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a7dz7bh

Toronto Raptors get Gay
Indiana Pacers get a 10 Million Expiring in Calderon
Memphis get a cheaper 3 in Granger, and a backup 3 in Kleiza

Hellcrooner
01-05-2013, 10:11 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a7dz7bh

Toronto Raptors get Gay
Indiana Pacers get a 10 Million Expiring in Calderon
Memphis get a cheaper 3 in Granger, and a backup 3 in Kleiza

indiana says , suck my marbles.

mjt20mik
01-05-2013, 10:21 AM
indiana says , suck my marbles.

Yeah sadly, I would say toss in the Raptors pick, but OKC has it.

icon1914
01-05-2013, 10:34 AM
Gay must've had a great agent to get him that overpriced deal. He's sufficient, but nothing special.

He became a free agent in 2010... When like 5 teams had an extreme amount of cap room hoping to land Wade, Bron, and others... He was going to get a max deal somewhere.

Lindystud36
01-05-2013, 10:45 AM
Il take him on the Nets
But then I realize I would much rather trade brook, marshon, tele, Pick to the Kings for Tyreke and Cousins

Lindystud36
01-05-2013, 10:51 AM
EDit; Il trade Dwill; Teletovic; Pick for Gay and Conely

kenzo400
01-05-2013, 12:30 PM
Gay for Ross and fillers?

I would have been good with that before the draft. But now, seeing as how Ross is playing, I would rather trade Derozan lol But even Derozan would be asking too much. He's on a pretty good deal and more productive than Gay this year.

KniCks4LiFe
01-05-2013, 12:47 PM
So you have inside info on what Smith is doing? I heard the opposite, that Atlanta laughs at such a swap and that they would much rather have the cap flexibility that comes with him leaving than be tied to Pau Gasol

Memphis gets a trade chip? In which scenario?
They have a better trade chip IMO, all this would do is downgrade from Rudy to Pau and in the Smith trade they get someone who doesn't fit their team as well.

These dont pass the sniff test

Atlanta laughs at pairing Gasol and Horford? yeh sure

As for Memphis getting an upgrade in trade pieces. Pau is a double double in another system. This is the same guy that was dominating the olympics. The Lakers can't play him like that. They aren't playing a system that benefits him. He's not done. So any team trading for him gets a + or he becomes someone that they can use as a future trade piece, like on draft day when teams are desperate for a veteran piece.

Rudy Gay is not a better piece than that. As for Josh Smith, I'll sell you a boat if you think he's not bolting ATL.

futureman
01-05-2013, 02:01 PM
The jazz need a scorer and they have 9 expiring contracts and picks to offer them.

KingPosey
01-05-2013, 02:19 PM
No just questioning your ignorance; and unnecassary comments, don't know why race should be involved in this topic really?

If another person said Oh this team only takes black people there would have been a huge case here.. Just saying..

****ing give it a rest dude.

MrfadeawayJB
01-05-2013, 02:25 PM
Atlanta laughs at pairing Gasol and Horford? yeh sure

As for Memphis getting an upgrade in trade pieces. Pau is a double double in another system. This is the same guy that was dominating the olympics. The Lakers can't play him like that. They aren't playing a system that benefits him. He's not done. So any team trading for him gets a + or he becomes someone that they can use as a future trade piece, like on draft day when teams are desperate for a veteran piece.

Rudy Gay is not a better piece than that. As for Josh Smith, I'll sell you a boat if you think he's not bolting ATL.

I'd rather pair Mo speights with Marc Gasol than have Pau back in memphis. And i'm not even kidding...

MILLERHIGHLIFE
01-05-2013, 02:27 PM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/report-grizzlies-testing-waters-for-potential-rudy-gay-trade/

Knew this was coming with Hollinger now in the Front Office.

He's always been highly critical of Rudy Gay's game using his analytics claiming he is one dimensional & too inefficient for his usage rate.





WI Sports Blog‏@WISportsBlog

The Twolves, #Bucks, Celtics, Hawks, Raptors, Rockets & Jazz are "sensible candidates" for landing Rudy Gay if Grizzlies make him available.


https://twitter.com/WISportsBlog/status/287373406087827457

The Wolves,Bucks,Celtics,Hawks,Raptors,Rockets,Jazz... .. then long shots Warriors,Kings,Hornets,Nuggets,Clippers,Wizards,Su ns,Pacers.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/46581/the-rudy-gay-dilemma-if-hes-dealt-where-will-he-land

Article is to long for a quote so check it out. They threw it all out there and hope one of them sticks.

dalton749
01-05-2013, 02:36 PM
would be great to have him in toronto but the only guys i dont want on the team are bargnani kleiza and peitrus and thats obviously not going to get it done. unless they take calderon for the expiring and he signs back here next year

gwrighter
01-05-2013, 02:52 PM
Calderon + Landry Fields for Rudy Gay. Memphis gets a large expiring and a replacement SF in fields.

Hollasoren
01-05-2013, 03:08 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=abfybq9

KniCks4LiFe
01-05-2013, 03:37 PM
the only way the Roxs would deal for Rudy Gay is if they have a pending package to land like Cousins or Howard.

Chronz
01-05-2013, 03:42 PM
Atlanta laughs at pairing Gasol and Horford? yeh sure
Thats what the rumor was. Why should I believe you any more than them? Particularly when their rumor aligns with my own opinion of such a hilarious trade offer.


As for Memphis getting an upgrade in trade pieces. Pau is a double double in another system. This is the same guy that was dominating the olympics. The Lakers can't play him like that. They aren't playing a system that benefits him. He's not done. So any team trading for him gets a + or he becomes someone that they can use as a future trade piece, like on draft day when teams are desperate for a veteran piece.
They already have the bigs, and a superior trade chip, why would they downgrade to someone whos trade value is at an All-Time low who doesn't fit their team, thus would be unable to supplant their superior bigs. On top of that, they are looking to shed salary and you want to give them someone whos contract actually increases if traded? LMFAO I know its not in you but you have to see both sides of the coin and realize financial constraints matter. I can buy Smith for Gay, but Pau? LMFAO


Rudy Gay is not a better piece than that.
Based on what tho? Hes been the more productive player over the years, fits a need, is younger/cheaper per year. Hes a much better piece than Pau.



As for Josh Smith, I'll sell you a boat if you think he's not bolting ATL.

Which Atlanta would gladly welcome in place of absorbing Gasol.


I'd rather pair Mo speights with Marc Gasol than have Pau back in memphis. And i'm not even kidding...
I know right, good thing Hollinger isnt stupid enough to do it.
You guys have the bigman depth, why would they want Pau? Particularly for Gay? Its ridiculously lopsided, it makes no kind of financial or basketball sense

Chronz
01-05-2013, 03:48 PM
https://twitter.com/WISportsBlog/status/287373406087827457

The Wolves,Bucks,Celtics,Hawks,Raptors,Rockets,Jazz... .. then long shots Warriors,Kings,Hornets,Nuggets,Clippers,Wizards,Su ns,Pacers.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/46581/the-rudy-gay-dilemma-if-hes-dealt-where-will-he-land

Article is to long for a quote so check it out. They threw it all out there and hope one of them sticks.
LOL Lakers werent even mentioned. I dont know why its so hard for that Knicks fan to see what Im sure the vast majority of analysts will see.

Chronz
01-05-2013, 03:50 PM
the only way the Roxs would deal for Rudy Gay is if they have a pending package to land like Cousins or Howard.

I doubt it.

KniCks4LiFe
01-05-2013, 03:50 PM
Thats what the rumor was. Why should I believe you any more than them? Particularly when their rumor aligns with my own opinion of such a hilarious trade offer.

Who said to believe me, it's speculating. You guessing too. Jesus don't believe in your Clips and eversince then you've been one cranky something.


They already have the bigs, and a superior trade chip, why would they downgrade to someone whos trade value is at an All-Time low who doesn't fit their team, thus would be unable to supplant their superior bigs. On top of that, they are looking to shed salary and you want to give them someone whos contract actually increases if traded? LMFAO I know its not in you but you have to see both sides of the coin and realize financial constraints matter. I can buy Smith for Gay, but Pau? LMFAO


The only reason I said Pau is b/c Hollinger is the GM, and he likely takes him b/c he's still valueable and uses him in the 2nd unit or something, then in the offseason he would trade him to a contender needing a final piece like Gasol. Gasol is still a valueable player in the game.


Based on what tho? Hes been the more productive player over the years, fits a need, is younger/cheaper per year. Hes a much better piece than Pau.


Hollinger never liked Rudy Gay.


Which Atlanta would gladly welcome in place of absorbing Gasol.

why you think he hasn't signed an extension? that dude is not staying in Atlanta.

YouAreSoWrong
01-05-2013, 04:02 PM
76ers. Cavs. Bucks. Griz.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a7fhavp

Chronz
01-05-2013, 04:08 PM
Who said to believe me, it's speculating. You guessing too. Jesus don't believe in your Clips and eversince then you've been one cranky something.
Well I asked for the rationale, forgive me for expecting something believable. Dont know what the Clips have to do with this but Im always skeptical of irrational deals.



The only reason I said Pau is b/c Hollinger is the GM, and he likely takes him b/c he's still valueable and uses him in the 2nd unit or something, then in the offseason he would trade him to a contender needing a final piece like Gasol. Gasol is still a valueable player in the game.
Sounds like you dont know Hollinger at all. Hes already got the more valuable chip that actually helps his team THIS YEAR. Now your saying he has to raise Pau's value a year from now? So I suppose they are suppose to lessen their team in the now and increase the cost of operating said team, all for the sake of having Pau come off the bench to hopefully increase his trade value next year? Dear god thats the most illogical trade Ive heard in a long time.




Hollinger never liked Rudy Gay.
Thats nice, can you prove he likes Pau more than Gay because something tells me his love of statistics would show that Gay is the better player who ALSO fits better. So why would he take on a player he wont be able to utilize, thus making him unable to raise his trade value while at the same time raising his teams pay roll?
I mean look at your hypothetical, the best way to utilize Pau would be to bring him off the bench. Hollinger has all the stats I do and more, so he knows as well as anyone what a tall order that is. Coming off the bench is usually harder for players than starting. And what happens to their glut of bigmen? How do they fill their perimeter needs upon acquiring Pau? It really makes zero sense



why you think he hasn't signed an extension? that dude is not staying in Atlanta.
LMFAO did you even read my response? What I said was that Atlanta would much rather have that enormous cap space than absorb Pau, so why would that matter?

But to answer your irrelevant question, lots of players dont sign extensions because they can make MORE MONEY by waiting to resign for a full deal. Its called COMMON SENSE

Sly Guy
01-05-2013, 04:15 PM
I hope he goes to Minny so he can play with Kevin Love.

Everyone will fear the Gay/Love tandem.

well played, sir.

KniCks4LiFe
01-05-2013, 04:18 PM
Well I asked for the rationale, forgive me for expecting something believable. Dont know what the Clips have to do with this but Im always skeptical of irrational deals.

I tried. It's not believeable a 3 team or 4 team deal to add depth for a team going for a championship run or another team trying to replace a franchise big that will likely walk?



Sounds like you dont know Hollinger at all. Hes already got the more valuable chip that actually helps his team THIS YEAR. Now your saying he has to raise Pau's value a year from now? So I suppose they are suppose to lessen their team in the now and increase the cost of operating said team, all for the sake of having Pau come off the bench to hopefully increase his trade value next year? Dear god thats the most illogical trade Ive heard in a long time.

Hollinger has never liked Rudy Gay. There are articles on that in ESPN's site prior to his hiring.


Thats nice, can you prove he likes Pau more than Gay because something tells me his love of statistics would show that Gay is the better player who ALSO fits better. So why would he take on a player he wont be able to utilize, thus making him unable to raise his trade value while at the same time raising his teams pay roll?


it's 1 yr. less w/o Gay. And a more moveable piece w/ Gasol.


I mean look at your hypothetical, the best way to utilize Pau would be to bring him off the bench. Hollinger has all the stats I do and more, so he knows as well as anyone what a tall order that is. Coming off the bench is usually harder for players than starting. And what happens to their glut of bigmen? How do they fill their perimeter needs upon acquiring Pau? It really makes zero sense


How many teams have a double double off the bench? Who scores off the bench in the paint in 2 units?



LMFAO did you even read my response? What I said was that Atlanta would much rather have that enormous cap space than absorb Pau, so why would that matter?


you never said that. But I'd also like to know how losing Josh Smith and getting nothing would feel for Atlanta.


But to answer your irrelevant question, lots of players dont sign extensions because they can make MORE MONEY by waiting to resign for a full deal. Its called COMMON SENSE

But with Josh Smith it's called seeing his options, he's not trying to miss playoffs and not try to win soon. So Atlanta is likely letting him walk b/c they aren't paying him what he'd want.

STL Don
01-05-2013, 04:37 PM
Deng for Gay. I can see it happening.

Healthy Rose + Gay would be pretty sweet.

Chronz
01-05-2013, 04:42 PM
I tried. It's not believeable a 3 team or 4 team deal to add depth for a team going for a championship run or another team trying to replace a franchise big that will likely walk?
Whos adding depth? Memphis already has a glut of quality bigmen, they want to move Gay for financial reasons. Adding Pau does not solve those financial restraints, and it creates another hole in their starting lineup. Why would a team want to downgrade its roster like that? And the Hawks are in the perfect position, they will have the most cap space and the possibility of luring other FA. If the Hawks are trading Smith, it will be for Gay, not for Pau.


Hollinger has never liked Rudy Gay. There are articles on that in ESPN's site prior to his hiring.
Yes but Im asking if you have proof that he likes Pau more than Gay? Knowing his history of stats and the teams financial position and positional needs, seems pretty evident he likes Gay more than Pau for the Grizz. But we can agree to disagree if you like.


it's 1 yr. less w/o Gay. And a more moveable piece w/ Gasol.
Exactly why he wouldn't make the deal this year, there is no incentive to downgrade the teams talent, raise its payroll all for the sake of trading a starter for a bench player in hopes of hopefully trading him in the future. Not seeing what makes him more moveable when you consider his trade value is at an All-Time low, hes not the younger player and his contract gets larger with a trade.



How many teams have a double double off the bench? Who scores off the bench in the paint in 2 units?
LMFAO Hollinger doesnt use crude barometers like double-doubles off the bench. He uses per minute rates to project a teams overall stat line. In order for Pau to get a double-double he would have to play alot more minutes than your typical bench player, which means less minutes for their starters.

More importantly, they go from having a surpless of bigmen (Which they already have) to having a giant hole in the starting lineup. For a team thats already deprived of shooting, why would they want to continue strengthening a bigman rotation thats already strong, while ignoring/weakening the starting lineup/outside shooting?





You never said that.
False;
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showpost.php?p=24975239&postcount=140
that they would much rather have the cap flexibility that comes with him leaving than be tied to Pau Gasol

Those were my EXACT words, plz try to keep up with the conversation, I dont want to keep reminding you of whats been said.


But I'd also like to know how losing Josh Smith and getting nothing would feel for Atlanta.
From what Ive read, they would much rather have the CAP space than be tied up with Pau. Why rush to make a trade they dont have to? One that will be available of Smith wants to go to LA.



But with Josh Smith it's called seeing his options, he's not trying to miss playoffs and not try to win soon.
Its called common sense bro, common sense encapsulates much more than what your hinting at, even if he wanted to stay in Atlanta why would you extend when you can make more money by resigning? The added benefit is that you keep your options open, but common sense tells us that even if he was perfectly content where he was at, it would be smarter to wait. CP3 is doing the same thing in LAC, one of the rumors is that he actually gos to Atlanta to play with Dwight+Smith+Horford. Yes thats how much cap space they could have if they all hook up Miami style. Thats partly why the Hawks were reportedly laughing at any deal for Pau. There is virtually no incentive for them to lock themselves into Pau when their window for Cap Space is THIS YEAR.



So Atlanta is likely letting him walk b/c they aren't paying him what he'd want.
Nah, sounds nothing like what Ive been hearing and definitely not what I would be thinking. They are in the driver seat right now, if they move Smith it wont be for Pau. Only way they trade for Pau is next year when/if they are sure that all the big name FA's are staying with their teams.

KniCks4LiFe
01-05-2013, 04:45 PM
holy hell nearly a full pg. response, agree to disagree. This is a speculation thread.

Chronz
01-05-2013, 04:55 PM
I tried to be concise but it doesn't help when the other person loses track of whats been said. Simply put, there is no logical rationale behind your trade scenarios.

Atlanta is in the driver seat having jettisoned Joe Johnson horrible contract and would have no interest in Pau's contract. Memphis already has the bigs but needs the wings, they want to trade Gay to get out of his deal in hopes of acquiring prospects that fit a need.

There may be someone out there who wants Pau (Knicks for one) but it wont land the Lakers a more talented player that fits their need while creating one for their trade partner. If Amare struggles to the same degree Pau has, I can see that swap happening but even the Lakers dont want to hurt their cap space.

KniCks4LiFe
01-05-2013, 05:01 PM
I tried to be concise but it doesn't help when the other person loses track of whats been said.

You're writing essay responses and literally not shortening it. Who the hell keeps up w/ all of that. It's Saturday the NFL playoffs are about to begin and I was making a gif, meanwhile you asked for a reason a team would do a deal, and I gave that to you. You ignored how Hollinger hasn't been a Rudy Gay fan, but again not my problem. You ignore how almost everyone knows Josh Smith isn't staying in ATL, then you tell me how ATL would rather take cap space, which I doubt b/c how do you keep a fanbase in ATL w/ all the rebuilding they are doing. Anyway to make it short. It's a thread about trade scenerios. It's just speculation.

Chronz
01-05-2013, 05:09 PM
You're writing essay responses and literally not shortening it. Who the hell keeps up w/ all of that.
LMFAO your really going to act like it makes a difference for you?

You couldn't even keep track of this post: http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showpost.php?p=24975239&postcount=140

That post was literally shorter than the one you just wrote and you still couldn't keep up.



It's Saturday the NFL playoffs are about to begin and I was making a gif, meanwhile you asked for a reason a team would do a deal, and I gave that to you.
This isnt a phone conversation, your free to go about your day and return to respond whenever you plz.



You ignored how Hollinger hasn't been a Rudy Gay fan, but again not my problem.
False, I asked you to show proof that Hollinger like Pau more than Gay.



You ignore how almost everyone knows Josh Smith isn't staying in ATL,
Again, you said I didn't have to believe you. If you have proof of "everyone knowing something" plz provide it, otherwise Im going to assume that they have a bigger plan in mind, one that revolves around a variety of external factors. Its not as easy you think it is, otherwise we wouldn't have all these new outlets speculating different ideas than the one your attempting to present here.



then you tell me how ATL would rather take cap space,
False, I said that from the get go and it was based off several articles Ive read about Atlanta's revamped management.



which I doubt b/c how do you keep a fanbase in ATL w/ all the rebuilding they are doing. Anyway to make matters short. It's a thread about speculation trade scenerios.
LOL hate to break the news but Atlanta jettisoned JJ because they wanted to rebuild on the fly. They knew how overrated he was and are willing to build around the younger players, that could include Josh Smith or go on without him, they have so many options that it wouldn't make sense to rush into something so soon.

YouAreSoWrong
01-05-2013, 05:12 PM
hey look at the deal i posted on this page...i think its solid with some tweaking haha

KniCks4LiFe
01-05-2013, 05:15 PM
Oh hell agree to disagree.

shep33
01-05-2013, 05:21 PM
Yeah there is no chance the Lakers trade for Amare. Lets get that out of our heads. Not that Amare is a bad player, but because of that extra year on his contract. Makes no sense to destroy our cap situation in 2012 for a 30 some odd year old Amare who's making 20+ mill that year.

Chronz
01-05-2013, 05:56 PM
Good talk

Alayla
01-05-2013, 06:12 PM
hey look at the deal i posted on this page...i think its solid with some tweaking haha

nope The cavs would laugh us off the phone

YouAreSoWrong
01-05-2013, 06:42 PM
Varajeo is 30, they aren't competing for the playoffs, and could use some cap...by getting younger talent, that expires a year before AV's contract. It might need a little tweak but I don't think his value is THAT great right now. He's having a career year but he's definitely expendable. I think they would rather get young talent, and build with the draft.

CaptainClutch
01-05-2013, 07:13 PM
It would be crazy if Rudy Gay got traded because then he wouldn't be on the Memphis Grizzlies anymore.

I think if he gets traded he'll still be on the Memphis Grizzlies.......... :p

He'll get traded to his own team ya????

JEEEEZZZZZZ

YouAreSoWrong
01-05-2013, 09:31 PM
Saw this thread and a thread about if the Mavs should trade Dirk.

If Grizzlies look to shed Rudy Gay from their team, the struggling Mavs look to get younger, and Sixers, with a healthy Bynum by the end of the year and an added piece could make them an acutal contender if they slip into the playoffs...this deal could make sense.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b9tqf2n

kobe4thewinbang
01-05-2013, 11:57 PM
Saw this thread and a thread about if the Mavs should trade Dirk.

If Grizzlies look to shed Rudy Gay from their team, the struggling Mavs look to get younger, and Sixers, with a healthy Bynum by the end of the year and an added piece could make them an acutal contender if they slip into the playoffs...this deal could make sense.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b9tqf2nDo the 76ers have any bench after that trade, PF & C wise? Has Young improved this year? Guess it makes sense for Memphis. Marion hasn't done much this year though.

Denver-boy
01-06-2013, 12:18 AM
to denver for gallo, mozzy, and Andre Miller! and 1st rounder.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=apcabkr

or

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b9lb54m

TheSource
01-06-2013, 01:35 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b4pozbm

kobe4thewinbang
01-06-2013, 02:00 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b4pozbmNo way Memphis takes back Pau "Finesse" Gasol and gets nothing from Golden State. They're not going to give Gay away for zilch.

MrfadeawayJB
01-06-2013, 02:07 AM
Memphis does not want Pau back! Even if Hollinger wanted to bring back pau (who is a serious downgrade from Z-BO) the city of memphis would not get on that bandwagon. Pau is soft as tissue paper. I mean, did anyone else see his horrible game vs LAC?

Chronz
01-06-2013, 02:08 AM
No way Memphis takes back Pau "Finesse" Gasol and gets nothing from Golden State. They're not going to give Gay away for zilch.

Exactly, why the hell would a financially constrained team thats already stacked with bigs and lacking on the wings want Pau? Ridiculous

MrfadeawayJB
01-06-2013, 02:12 AM
I swear Lakers fans think they can make a trade for anybody

DeyAce
01-06-2013, 02:25 AM
I'll gladly trade deng for gay for the Bulls

mzgrizz
01-06-2013, 10:08 AM
Either of Denver- boy's trades would work for me IF he had to go

mzgrizz
01-06-2013, 10:32 AM
But one thought. I know this is a business, but he just lost his grandmother and now they're talking of trading him. Pretty cold.

day_gun
01-27-2013, 02:14 AM
douglas is the man