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Tony_Starks
12-29-2012, 05:14 PM
We all saw his antics in NY. The Steph debacle. Constantly screwing with Nate Robinson and then later Jordan Hill, while showing unwavering devotion to Gallo and Duhon.

Now here we go again. Messed with Gasol at first, now Jamison can't get off the bench which is one of the worst in the league. Hill has been in and out, sometimes big minutes sometimes DNP's. Grandstanding in the media.

Is there a rhyme or reason to this dude is or is he really just totally clueless? It's like he's not even coaching, his substitutions are like a kid playing nba 2k.

TheMoneyTeam
12-29-2012, 05:19 PM
He's just swaggin' and trollin' for the lulz of PSD.

ILLUSIONIST^248
12-29-2012, 05:23 PM
We all saw his antics in NY. The Steph debacle. Constantly screwing with Nate Robinson and then later Jordan Hill, while showing unwavering devotion to Gallo and Duhon.

Now here we go again. Messed with Gasol at first, now Jamison can't get off the bench which is one of the worst in the league. Hill has been in and out, sometimes big minutes sometimes DNP's. Grandstanding in the media.

Is there a rhyme or reason to this dude is or is he really just totally clueless? It's like he's not even coaching, his substitutions are like a kid playing nba 2k.

The man rotations are so terrible. The fact the morris starts makes me want to shoot myself. He had a rotation the other day of duhon, morris, meeks, hill, howard:facepalm:. Jamison was a beast when he played and now the man can't get a minute. Mike d has been pissing me the **** off.

DragonJaii
12-29-2012, 05:26 PM
im really surprised jamison can't get off the bench.. he's supposed to be a key role player in everyteam. dantoni sucks.

PlezPlayDKnicks
12-29-2012, 05:27 PM
He's been trying to find the right mixtures. You know no training camp . Limited practices. He's experimenting clearly. Every1 knows Mike D only goes 8 players deep if he can maybe 9 tops in his normal rotations

TheMoneyTeam
12-29-2012, 05:31 PM
The Lakers are poor in defending and Jamison would just add to their defensive woes. He isn't strong enough to guard PF/C and is too slow to defend SF where D'Antoni wants to play him. Hill offers more in defense and rebounding, and while he isn't a premier scorer, Los Angeles has a multitude of those. I think we'll have a better assessment of the team towards the end of January. Los Angeles plays the Clippers, Heat, Thunder, Spurs, and Grizzlies next month.

Tony_Starks
12-29-2012, 05:36 PM
The Lakers are poor in defending and Jamison would just add to their defensive woes. He isn't strong enough to guard PF/C and is too slow to defend SF where D'Antoni wants to play him. Hill offers more in defense and rebounding, and while he isn't a premier scorer, Los Angeles has a multitude of those. I think we'll have a better assessment of the team towards the end of January. Los Angeles plays the Clippers, Heat, Thunder, Spurs, and Grizzlies next month.


Jamison is a shaky defender against starters but against 2nd tier bench players he should be ok. Plus he'd be in tandem with MWP to help him out.

I get starting Hill but Jamison not being able to get off a bench that struggles to score is beyond ridiculous....

Everymanalion
12-29-2012, 05:38 PM
There is a reason besides Melo he got fired from NY-_-

Tony_Starks
12-29-2012, 07:26 PM
Never thought I would be saying I miss Mike Brown!!

( no homo )

shep33
12-29-2012, 07:42 PM
I will say that there just aren't any mins left at the pf spot for Jamison. He can't play sf really because he can't defend anyone. Another problem is that we're winning with him sitting. We won 6 of 7 with him not playing.

What's surprising is that dantoni has actually opted for defense over offense

JEDean89
12-29-2012, 07:50 PM
the lakers had 3 prime candidates for their job but through bad relations, they killed them. Brian Shaw was the obvious choice to takeover for Phil Jackson when he retired. Has Phil Jackson's protogee and had the support of the players and kobe in particular. Had Jim Buss not burned the Phil Jackson and everyone associated with him bridge then the lakes would have had a much smoother transition and Kobe would be looking at his 6th and possibly 7th ring. Instead they decide to get Mike Brown to teach his ****** offense then decide to have him change to the Princeton then they fired him and hired Dantoni who has another ridiculous system. The fact is Howard Paul and Kobe are built to play a halfcourt post up and beat em system and nash is built to play in the Dantoni system. Why they chose to go with Nash over the 3 other stars is beyond me. Dantoni will run Kobe Nash and Pau into the gound playing them 40+ mins, he is so scared of losing his job right now and the expectations that he will play 36 year old Kobe 40+ mins.

justinnum1
12-29-2012, 07:56 PM
are they winning right now?

Pluvious
12-29-2012, 07:57 PM
We all saw his antics in NY. The Steph debacle. Constantly screwing with Nate Robinson and then later Jordan Hill, while showing unwavering devotion to Gallo and Duhon.

Now here we go again. Messed with Gasol at first, now Jamison can't get off the bench which is one of the worst in the league. Hill has been in and out, sometimes big minutes sometimes DNP's. Grandstanding in the media.

Is there a rhyme or reason to this dude is or is he really just totally clueless? It's like he's not even coaching, his substitutions are like a kid playing nba 2k.

If you don't watch the games why post? :confused:

The Lakers have won 5 of 6 and have improved their defense in the last few games...finally. Starting Morris, playing Artest at the pf, and not playing Jamison have all helped that. Meanwhile, the offense has been improving as well.

Jamison should get some pt but for a team that is trying to find a defensive identity it was a strong mood. Really, he should be getting praise right now playing defensive players over offensive but people love to hate.

THE MTL
12-29-2012, 07:58 PM
I was going to say....arent they winning? But yeah D'antoni's doghouse is very puzzling.

JasonJohnHorn
12-29-2012, 08:05 PM
I'm inclined to think that he is essentially like a 14 year old playing NBA2K12 or something... yeah... that sounds right ;-)

jimm120
12-29-2012, 08:11 PM
He's been trying to find the right mixtures. You know no training camp . Limited practices. He's experimenting clearly. Every1 knows Mike D only goes 8 players deep if he can maybe 9 tops in his normal rotations

Technically its 8 players but in actuality, its like 7 1/4 players lol.

The 8th player would usually play less than 8 minutes a game.


Dantoni is a horrible coach. Knicks sucked with him the past 2 years.

2010-11 went something like this:
-3-8 start to the season
-13-1 That big run with Amare going MVP level, Felton allstar level, and WIlson Chandler as a "gotta sign that guy" level
-12-18 before the Melo trade
-14-14 with Melo, Amare, and Billups

Then in 2011-12, he was:
-18-24 as a head coach

-18-6 was what Woodson did with the same batch of players. Hell, Woodson didn't even have Lin for most of that (aside for like 6 games or so) and didn't have amare (only for like 8 or so of those games).

Then in 2012-2013 Woodson has the Knicks at 21-9 or something.

Sorry, Dantoni's a horrible coach. INCONSISTENT.

Tony_Starks
12-29-2012, 08:16 PM
I was going to say....arent they winning? But yeah D'antoni's doghouse is very puzzling.


To me the winning has more to do with Nash and Gasol being back than benching Jamison. The offense has been running better, Kobes more efficient, and Gasol seems to be getting more comfortable.

The defense has picked up some but that's also a product of getting better shots and not letting the other team just go off to the races off turnovers.

Like I said I prefer Hill to start his hustle is needed but you can't tell me against bench players that Jamison is that big of a liability. The other night they were in a blowout and he cleared the bench of basically everyone BUT Jamison.

That kinda stuff is just uncalled for and a good way to alienate your players, like he did in NY....

jimm120
12-29-2012, 08:21 PM
And that's not even talking about the whole "doghousing" business thing he had...

2008
Stephon Marbury: benched him in favor of Duhon...really? Marbuy was a cancer and was LOCO, but man, benching him over Duhon. And what's worse was that it took away ALL of Marbury's trade value.
Eddy Curry: I loathed the curry trade from the start. Still, you TRY to play him at least to be able to trade him. Oh, he was too slow so he just benched him. Fat Curry just kept getting fatter.

2009
Eddy Curry: Yes, again. We NEEDED this guy to play so we could trade him. Instead, he sits him and lets the guy get injured and not give a ****.
Darko Milicic: yes, the guy sucks but we needed ANY kind of BIG body for a little defense and yet he kept him out.
Nate Robinson: Really? One of our best scorers and you keep benching him? God damn. Plus, a fan favorite.

2010
Anthony Randolph: Need a big man with some talent? Well, put him at the corner 3 point line...or bench him....kinda like Gasol!
Jordan Hill: Wrong rookie picked. Didn't play him, lowering Hill's trade value.



DANTONI is a bust. He's horrible.

Tony_Starks
12-29-2012, 08:31 PM
And that's not even talking about the whole "doghousing" business thing he had...

2008
Stephon Marbury: benched him in favor of Duhon...really? Marbuy was a cancer and was LOCO, but man, benching him over Duhon. And what's worse was that it took away ALL of Marbury's trade value.
Eddy Curry: I loathed the curry trade from the start. Still, you TRY to play him at least to be able to trade him. Oh, he was too slow so he just benched him. Fat Curry just kept getting fatter.

2009
Eddy Curry: Yes, again. We NEEDED this guy to play so we could trade him. Instead, he sits him and lets the guy get injured and not give a ****.
Darko Milicic: yes, the guy sucks but we needed ANY kind of BIG body for a little defense and yet he kept him out.
Nate Robinson: Really? One of our best scorers and you keep benching him? God damn. Plus, a fan favorite.

2010
Anthony Randolph: Need a big man with some talent? Well, put him at the corner 3 point line...or bench him....kinda like Gasol!
Jordan Hill: Wrong rookie picked. Didn't play him, lowering Hill's trade value.



DANTONI is a bust. He's horrible.



As a Knick fan Im sure you feel my pain. I used to like the Knicks back in the good ol days but I could barely watch them under DAntoni's reign because he turned them into a total joke. Jacking up 3's. Throwing players under the bus for no apparent reason. Weird rotations. Now I see him bringing his same shenanigans to my Lakers and this totally sucks.

Unfortunately we have enough talent to win enough to keep him around for a while but Im just mad that they're more than likely going to waste a couple of productive years for Kobe/Nash/ Gasol.....

dc5jdm
12-29-2012, 08:32 PM
I hate Jamison getting no pt. He needs to find him some minutes

ewing
12-29-2012, 09:12 PM
Who wouldn't bench Nate Robinson, Steph, and Eddie Curry?

Jesse2272
12-29-2012, 09:22 PM
Fat Curry just kept getting fatter.

2009
Eddy Curry: Yes, again. We NEEDED this guy to play so we could trade him. Instead, he sits him and lets the guy get injured and not give a ****.


DANTONI is a bust. He's horrible.

I wanted Tyson from that Bulls squad not Curry

guess what-all is forgiven

Dtoni is horrible

and rooted for the knicks then and still do know never abandoning this team WTF

Tony_Starks
12-29-2012, 09:52 PM
Who wouldn't bench Nate Robinson, Steph, and Eddie Curry?


Nate has got substantial playing time everywhere he's been since. And Duhon over Steph? CHRIS DUHON? Really?

PlezPlayDKnicks
12-29-2012, 10:41 PM
Technically its 8 players but in actuality, its like 7 1/4 players lol.

The 8th player would usually play less than 8 minutes a game.


Dantoni is a horrible coach. Knicks sucked with him the past 2 years.

2010-11 went something like this:
-3-8 start to the season
-13-1 That big run with Amare going MVP level, Felton allstar level, and WIlson Chandler as a "gotta sign that guy" level
-12-18 before the Melo trade
-14-14 with Melo, Amare, and Billups

Then in 2011-12, he was:
-18-24 as a head coach

-18-6 was what Woodson did with the same batch of players. Hell, Woodson didn't even have Lin for most of that (aside for like 6 games or so) and didn't have amare (only for like 8 or so of those games).

Then in 2012-2013 Woodson has the Knicks at 21-9 or something.

Sorry, Dantoni's a horrible coach. INCONSISTENT.

Disagree a bit. Dude always had mix match rosters his whole tenure. By the time he actually had a good team Melo revolted. Hard to be consistent when your roster changes more than the weather and he didn't have a reliable pg that could run his system on a consistent basis. Can't expect consistent results with inconsistent rosters

AnthonyTyrael
12-30-2012, 08:44 AM
I don't think Jamison could repeat his sixth man award but I can fully understand what you guys are saying. With D'Antoni it's a lot of nonsense. Picking him as well as some other decisions the Lakers front office made over the past couple years... much was doubtful or at least somewhat questionable.

HowFit
12-30-2012, 08:51 AM
Jamison is a shaky defender against starters but against 2nd tier bench players he should be ok. Plus he'd be in tandem with MWP to help him out.

I get starting Hill but Jamison not being able to get off a bench that struggles to score is beyond ridiculous....

I agree...