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RealLiveBear
12-27-2012, 01:58 PM
Comes from Woj's twitter account

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
The Brooklyn Nets have fired coach Avery Johnson, league source tells Yahoo! Sports.

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 01:58 PM
yo.

JerseysFinest
12-27-2012, 01:59 PM
Thank sweet baby Jesus.

Mr. Baller
12-27-2012, 01:59 PM
Dang

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 01:59 PM
i call bs.

king4day
12-27-2012, 01:59 PM
I guess it was expected. I am sure they will ask for Deron's input on who he would want.

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 01:59 PM
It was overdue IMO, Nets were going nowhere with Avery. Jerry Sloan anyone?

Super.
12-27-2012, 01:59 PM
lol saw this coming

SteBO
12-27-2012, 02:00 PM
Not a shocker......

danniboi168
12-27-2012, 02:00 PM
that was quick

heyman321
12-27-2012, 02:00 PM
Hire SVG!!!!!

RealLiveBear
12-27-2012, 02:00 PM
It really was only a matter of time.

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:01 PM
if this is true, who's taking the helm?

FOBolous
12-27-2012, 02:02 PM
that didn't take long

Teeboy1487
12-27-2012, 02:02 PM
Expected.

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 02:04 PM
Somehow I feel Deron Williams was associated with this firing, didn't like the system one bit nor did Gerald Wallace.

NYMetros
12-27-2012, 02:04 PM
Not too surprising, I think they expected to be a lot better right now than 14-14.

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:04 PM
ding dong the Nets can breathe. MarShon might have a career left. Y'all can thank Deron Williams, Brook Lopez, Gerald Williams and Joe Johnson. :laugh2:

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:05 PM
Hire SVG!!!!!

This!

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:05 PM
SVG anyone?

JNoel
12-27-2012, 02:05 PM
Haha I knew it was coming.

colinskik
12-27-2012, 02:06 PM
I thought this would be dragged out much longer... Now let's see if Deron has actually lost it for real, or if he gets put back into the right "system" for him to flourish.

JerseysFinest
12-27-2012, 02:06 PM
Somehow I feel Deron Williams was associated with this firing, didn't like the system one bit nor did Gerald Wallace.

I think it more so had to do with the fact Avery lost the lockerroom, and no one was responding to him. Look at the Christmas game, everyone was playing so bored, no heart, no passion. A change was desperately needed. Deron Williams voiced an opinion that a lot of the players had, I don't think it falls solely on the shoulders of him.

strahan92osi72
12-27-2012, 02:06 PM
Now hire Jerry Sloan, since D-Will was saying how wonderful his system was. And for the Net fans that think this fixes all of your problems, you're in for a rude awakening.

BSardogan
12-27-2012, 02:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI

It was only like yesterday that some pissed off Nets fans were talking about him having to leave and he's gone already lol.

SteBO
12-27-2012, 02:07 PM
I did hear from time to time that Sloan was interested in coaching again......but I'm not sure he'd want to take on D-Will for another go-round.

DMasta718
12-27-2012, 02:07 PM
Overdue for the Nets.

Wouldnt be surprised if they contact McMillan.

TO Rapz
12-27-2012, 02:07 PM
I really hope they don't hire SVG.

JerseysFinest
12-27-2012, 02:08 PM
SVG anyone?

Please :pray:

2-ONE-5
12-27-2012, 02:08 PM
not his fault they gave him a team full of overpaid/underacheiving players.

mlisica19
12-27-2012, 02:08 PM
Maybe Phil Jackson?

Idk. that would be ill

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:08 PM
I really hope they don't hire SVG.

you mad? it's ok though, i still love you.

strahan92osi72
12-27-2012, 02:09 PM
not his fault they gave him a team full of overpaid/underacheiving players.

Exactly this.

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:09 PM
I do think Jerry Sloan is first on the list. That's prbly why Deron made the call to his former coach. That was so fishy of a move to me. But honestly Avery sucked man, no honestly he sucked.

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 02:09 PM
Oh God P.J. is taking over for the time being.....


@WojYahooNBA
The Nets are expected to make assistant P.J. Carlesimo the interim head coach, league source tells Y! Sports.

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:10 PM
Exactly this.

maybe, but avery didn't help the situation.

JNoel
12-27-2012, 02:10 PM
Woj

In fact, the Nets have made P.J. Carlesimo the interim head coach, sources tell Y! Sports.

Maichan
12-27-2012, 02:10 PM
What is with Coaches being fired this year?

BigBlueCrew
12-27-2012, 02:11 PM
not his fault they gave him a team full of overpaid/underacheiving players.

exactly

he'll look back on this he'll be the lucky one.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
12-27-2012, 02:11 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
PJ Carlisemo named interim head coach

They better find a new coach, quick!

Also...


Brett Pollakoff ‏@BrettEP
Avery Johnson, coach of the month in October and November, fired in December. Has to be a first.

nickdymez
12-27-2012, 02:11 PM
It was overdue IMO, Nets were going nowhere with Avery. Jerry Sloan anyone?

You realize Sloan quite because of Deron right?

Heediot
12-27-2012, 02:12 PM
He sucks.

JNoel
12-27-2012, 02:12 PM
They better find a new coach, quick!

Broussard? C'mon man.:p

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:12 PM
we need someone that'll chew out the team when they underachieve, especially d-will. if not, it's going to be a ugly few years.

TylerSL
12-27-2012, 02:13 PM
It would help them alot to go hire SVG.

BigBlueCrew
12-27-2012, 02:13 PM
DWill...da coach killa!

AnthonyTyrael
12-27-2012, 02:14 PM
Hired the wrong P.J.

NJ Raven
12-27-2012, 02:14 PM
I may be the only Nets fan to not like this move.

Avenged
12-27-2012, 02:14 PM
Deron does it again, folks.

kdspurman
12-27-2012, 02:14 PM
They should just name Deron Williams the coach. Stop wasting guys time lol

JerseysFinest
12-27-2012, 02:14 PM
not his fault they gave him a team full of overpaid/underacheiving players.

They're underachieving because of Avery, he isn't maximizing their talent. He's a solid coach, but not for the Nets with the personnel they have. Another issue they have is they need someone who is more of a leader and isn't afraid to put players in their place; Avery is more of a teacher, isn't as aggressive per say. If the Nets got someone like SVG, who is a no bs type coach, this team will be night and day from what it is now.

reffahead
12-27-2012, 02:14 PM
Phil is the obvious target for Prok.

Weezy
12-27-2012, 02:15 PM
SVG would be interesting... Pj carlisemo lol.... Where's sprewell when you need him?

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 02:15 PM
DWill...da coach killa!

I wonder if DWill likes playing bball all that much, he seems disengaged this year.

SirSkyHook
12-27-2012, 02:16 PM
not his fault they gave him a team full of overpaid/underacheiving players.

This.

JerseysFinest
12-27-2012, 02:16 PM
Deron does it again, folks.

Don't necessarily think this is all on D-Will, despite the fact he made those comments publicly.


I may be the only Nets fan to not like this move.

Don't think it needed to be done? I don't think AJ is a bad coach, but the way this ship was headed change was needed for sure.

JNoel
12-27-2012, 02:16 PM
Phil Jackson will most likely not get hired, the management has never believed in triangle offense to fit this personnel.

ball4reel
12-27-2012, 02:17 PM
Well we get to see if the Nets just aren't a well put together team or if it really was the coach. Wonder if they dont get any better by the trading deadline if they would move D-WILL...

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:17 PM
Now hire Jerry Sloan, since D-Will was saying how wonderful his system was. And for the Net fans that think this fixes all of your problems, you're in for a rude awakening.

homie Avery Johnson sucked. There is no defending that guy. I actually thought he was bringing his Dallas coaching to that team. He didn't. He has players like Deron running off screens to generate his offense, since when Deron that type of player? Brook Lopez doesn't get touches, Reggie Evans gets plays drawn for him. And I love Wallace but who the f' draws plays for Gerald Wallace and saids the offensive plays are going to be drawn for him to create mismatch, you have Deron Williams and Joe Johnson as 2nd and 3rd options. :laugh2:

MarShon can't get minutes over Toka IDK what his name is but he ain't a better shooter than MarShon. Bogans is getting shots over him. Blatche and Lopez were paired together, that was it. Avery was just exposed. He needed to go. LOLS

He115ing
12-27-2012, 02:18 PM
not his fault they gave him a team full of overpaid/underacheiving players.

lol, so true.

rurichie
12-27-2012, 02:18 PM
Bring in P-Jax or Van Gundy!

Robbw241
12-27-2012, 02:19 PM
SVG. Phil is retired he ain't coming back.


Also thank god

torocan
12-27-2012, 02:19 PM
D-Will vs Coaches ... 2-0.

Looks like Deron Williams has officially run out of excuses. Time to earn that humungous paycheck....

BigBlueCrew
12-27-2012, 02:20 PM
Phil Jackson will most likely not get hired, the management has never believed in triangle offense to fit this personnel.

Phil Jackson does not take on 14-14 projects. He only comes in when the team is in first place already (east/west) then says "I took this team to the championship" :shrug:

JNoel
12-27-2012, 02:20 PM
Woj

The firing of Avery Johnson comes less than two days after a critical tweet post-Celtics loss by impatient Nets CEO Brett Yormark.

NJ Raven
12-27-2012, 02:21 PM
Don't necessarily think this is all on D-Will, despite the fact he made those comments publicly.



Don't think it needed to be done? I don't think AJ is a bad coach, but the way this ship was headed change was needed for sure.


I think this team is an overhyped .500 ball club.

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 02:22 PM
Reggie Miller trolling LOL


@ReggieMillerTNT
So will coaching change for Nets improve Deron Williams shooting percentage??

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-27-2012, 02:22 PM
I'm a bit upset with this move. Deron under performing shouldn't be put on Avery.

Lindystud36
12-27-2012, 02:23 PM
Interesting Idea; Shaq is from Jersey...

Id rather see Calipari come back! Then trade Brook and Marshom for DMC and Tyreke

John Walls Era
12-27-2012, 02:23 PM
It was overdue IMO, Nets were going nowhere with Avery. Jerry Sloan anyone?

You're joking right? I hope you're joking.

Hellcrooner
12-27-2012, 02:23 PM
Uncle Phil to end his coaching career where he ended his playing career?

JerseysFinest
12-27-2012, 02:23 PM
I think this team is an overhyped .500 ball club.

I think they have the chance to be a playoff contender given they improve the coaching situation, add key pieces, and gain chemistry. It wasn't going to be a one year thing, and I think the Nets really hyped themselves up way too much and ended up falling flat on their face.

JNoel
12-27-2012, 02:23 PM
I'm a bit upset with this move. Deron under performing shouldn't be put on Avery.

Not all on Deron, Avery lost control of this team that were headed for a downward spiral, simple as that.

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:24 PM
we'll really see if it was avery sucking *** or d-will underachieving. i think it was a mixture of both.

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:24 PM
WFAN said Nets targeting Van Gundy or Jackson.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-27-2012, 02:25 PM
WFAN said Nets targeting Van Gundy or Jackson.

It'll be Stan Van, Jackson's offense doesn't really fit here IMO.

Weezy
12-27-2012, 02:26 PM
we'll really see if it was avery sucking *** or d-will underachieving. i think it was a mixture of both.

It's both but the blame is on D will because of his past.

rurichie
12-27-2012, 02:27 PM
SO far names mentioned are Van Gundy and P-Jax and even SLoan, dont forget our owner can give him just about anything in the world. Makes you wonder how much longer Billy King has too

JerseysFinest
12-27-2012, 02:27 PM
we'll really see if it was avery sucking *** or d-will underachieving. i think it was a mixture of both.

Change was needed regardless imo.

But yeah, you can't blame Avery for Deron and Joe underachieving, and Lopez playing badly after returning back from injury.

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:27 PM
@incarceratedbob
**BREAKING NBA NEWS**Source: Nets are preparing to make call to Phil Jackson (If he says no) next up is Stan Van Gundy #IBN #Nets

I hate this dude. Take it for a grain a salt.

Sadds The Gr8
12-27-2012, 02:28 PM
Deron Williams = cancer.

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:28 PM
It's both but the blame is on D will because of his past.

media-wise yes, they'll put the blame on him.

John Walls Era
12-27-2012, 02:29 PM
I thought Nets would be really good, but I didn't expect Avery to get them nowhere. SVG should definitely be considered. I like JVG to stay on commentary, so I rather not see him get the job (even though Nets wouldn't fit his style).

BigBlueCrew
12-27-2012, 02:29 PM
I hate this dude. Take it for a grain a salt.

Then why post it??? :laugh:

Nets are gonna call, Phil Jackson is gonna laugh in their face.

dc5jdm
12-27-2012, 02:29 PM
I doubt Jay Z had any to do with this " nets could go O for 82 and I look at you like this **** gravy"

Weezy
12-27-2012, 02:29 PM
media-wise yes, they'll put the blame on him.

Welcome to NY.. Lol

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-27-2012, 02:30 PM
I hate this dude. Take it for a grain a salt.

All bob does is guess.

John Walls Era
12-27-2012, 02:30 PM
I hate this dude. Take it for a grain a salt.

@incarceratedbob is the worst. Hes right sometimes only because he makes 10 different guesses on the same topic and one of them happens to be right. I also hate how he brags about being right when hes right.

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:30 PM
Then why post it??? :laugh:

Nets are gonna call, Phil Jackson is gonna laugh in their face.

b/c someone else might believe it. :laugh2:

RonE Coleman
12-27-2012, 02:31 PM
Lol while I agree firing Avery was smart, its not like another coach is gonna help Derons awful shooting numbers.

popo85
12-27-2012, 02:31 PM
Raid!

John Walls Era
12-27-2012, 02:31 PM
I doubt Phil coaches the Nets. He only goes for the top tier teams.

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:31 PM
Welcome to NY.. Lol

yup, i would love to see how d-will reacts under real pressure.

BigBlueCrew
12-27-2012, 02:31 PM
b/c someone else might believe it. :laugh2:

like DMF and Wavey???? thats cruel :laugh:

ghettosean
12-27-2012, 02:32 PM
Does this fix the problem in Brooklyn though??? I'm not convinced!

DoMeFavors
12-27-2012, 02:32 PM
Now you guys will see how good the Nets really are, now that the problem is gone. Be careful thats all I got to say. better hope we dont play you anytime soon.

gotoHcarolina52
12-27-2012, 02:32 PM
@Fake_Prokhorov

Is true I am wish success to Coach Avery in future. Perhaps in thing like sell "insurance" or deliver pizza.

:laugh2:

shep33
12-27-2012, 02:32 PM
I doubt Phil takes the job, the Triangle makes Deron into a role player. Sloan makes sense, maybe he and Deron could be like Kobe and Phil... kiss and make up. If not go for Van Gundy

strahan92osi72
12-27-2012, 02:33 PM
Then why post it??? :laugh:

Nets are gonna call, Phil Jackson is gonna laugh in their face.

I mean if Phil didn't take the Knicks job, why in the world would he take the Nets job with an inferior team and an owner who is just as annoying, if not more annoying than Dolan to work for? I guess it doesn't hurt to ask, maybe Phil's sides will hurt from laughing so hard tho.

colinskik
12-27-2012, 02:34 PM
Now you guys will see how good the Nets really are, now that the problem is gone. Be careful thats all I got to say. better hope we dont play you anytime soon.
Oh yeah? Deron is going to start making buckets now that Avery is gone? I'm not convinced.

shep33
12-27-2012, 02:34 PM
Proky is gonna offer Phil something crazy. $200 billion + a good chunk of Russia

JerseysFinest
12-27-2012, 02:34 PM
I doubt Phil takes the job, the Triangle makes Deron into a role player. Sloan makes sense, maybe he and Deron could be like Kobe and Phil... kiss and make up. If not go for Van Gundy

If I were to bet, I think it's SVG or even Nate McMillan.

KnickaBocka.44
12-27-2012, 02:34 PM
I see P.J. having to ride it out for the rest of the year. Phil and Sloan aren't realistic options and I doubt that SVG wants to deal with the pressure. Who else is there that would be a significant upgrade?

Greedy22
12-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Now you guys will see how good the Nets really are, now that the problem is gone. Be careful thats all I got to say. better hope we dont play you anytime soon.

:rolleyes:

29$JerZ
12-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Who didn't see this coming?

strahan92osi72
12-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Now you guys will see how good the Nets really are, now that the problem is gone. Be careful thats all I got to say. better hope we dont play you anytime soon.

The problem is you don't have superstars, but you're paying two overrated players like they're superstars when they're not.

BigBlueCrew
12-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Now you guys will see how good the Nets really are, now that the problem is gone. Be careful thats all I got to say. better hope we dont play you anytime soon.

Yes Captain...haha

We are shivering, PJ Carlismo ooooh

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 02:36 PM
Man, it seems like when PSD goes crazy over "Will this coach get fired"...a day or two later, that coach actually gets fired! :laugh2:

First it was Mike Brown, and now its Avery Johnson.

29$JerZ
12-27-2012, 02:36 PM
Any time a coach is fired you'll see some more energy from those who were struggling, not sure it's what will fix Deron. He needs someone to keep him in line and not cater to his bad habits. Might even see Brooks being used again

torocan
12-27-2012, 02:37 PM
One thing for sure, if they get SVG, the news conferences will get A LOT more lively. :D

And please don't hire JVG. I like him as a commentator too much. :cry:

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 02:37 PM
Man, it seems like when PSD goes crazy over "Will this coach get fired"...a day or two later, that coach actually gets fired! :laugh2:

First it was Mike Brown, and now its Avery Johnson.

LOL. I'm telling ya PSD has some sort of weird unearthly powers.......:confused:

SteBO
12-27-2012, 02:37 PM
Does this fix the problem in Brooklyn though??? I'm not convinced!
It doesn't come close to fixing the issue, but something needed to be done here I think. They started off pretty good (11-4). They've since gone downhill (3-10) with no improvement on both ends of the floor, and Avery's rotations were questionable to downright awful.

Why did Humphries all of a sudden see a sudden minutes decrease, even though one of their problems at the time was rebounding? Why did Marshon Brooks get NO playing time even though they struggled to score? There's a way to handle one-dimensional players, and he failed miserably in that regard.

Deron's shooting #'s are what they are, but it's not like Avery helped matters in other areas within the games with his in-game decisions. Top that off with the Nets' lackluster play on both ends of the floor, especially Christmas day, and it became clear Avery lost the team. That includes Deron and G-Wallace questioning the system. Writing was on the wall....

MSG34
12-27-2012, 02:38 PM
pretty pathetic move, the guy has suffered enough losing with the Nets awful roster over the last couple years and the Nets just can him before the half way point.

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 02:38 PM
Reggie Miller trolling LOL

He's sticking up for a guy he's played against for so long in Avery. Basically, he's saying that it hasn't been the coach's fault of why their record is what it is.

mekedubs
12-27-2012, 02:38 PM
Yay!!! Welcome to another episode of "Star player not happy, fire the coach!!!" ...In today's episode, Deron Williams wasn't happy with the coach so Avery gets the ax...

In previous episodes, Jason Kidd got Byron Scott fired... LeBron got Mike Brown fired... Dwight Howard got SVG fired... And it's only a matter of time before Durant is not happy with Scott Brooks before he ends up getting fired...

You gotta love the league when "star" players can't be coached and want things their way... If the Clippers start losing because Griffin or CP3 aren't happy then Vinny is gone despite the fact they've won more games than ANY TIME in Clipper history...

shep33
12-27-2012, 02:38 PM
If I were to bet, I think it's SVG or even Nate McMillan.

Honestly, either of those guys are fine choices. I like it for the Nets

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 02:39 PM
If BKN gets SVG, then Nets fans can forget about ever getting Dwight in the future!

RonE Coleman
12-27-2012, 02:39 PM
Now you guys will see how good the Nets really are, now that the problem is gone. Be careful thats all I got to say. better hope we dont play you anytime soon.

14-14, go to bed

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-27-2012, 02:39 PM
LOL people saying they need Sloan.

Didnt Deron leave because of him?

Sadds The Gr8
12-27-2012, 02:39 PM
Reminder: Avery Johnson won Eastern conference #NBA Coach of the Month for November.

DoMeFavors
12-27-2012, 02:40 PM
PJ aint coaching the Nets they are hiring a new coach

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 02:41 PM
Sry thought this was kinda funny.

http://instagram.com/p/Tv-NAPSiND/

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:42 PM
they made this move b/c they have someone big ready. I wonder who though.

strahan92osi72
12-27-2012, 02:42 PM
LOL people saying they need Sloan.

Didnt Deron leave because of him?

Other way around, Sloan left because of Deron. Deron basically called for him when praising his system, like many other things, you don't know what you got til it's gone. Doubt he makes up with Deron though, I see one of the Van Gundy's as the successor to Avery.

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:43 PM
Sry thought this was kinda funny.

http://instagram.com/p/Tv-NAPSiND/

It should say "You'll be swimming in Pelican Bay when I'm done w/ you" you know New Orleans? :laugh2:

colinskik
12-27-2012, 02:43 PM
PJ aint coaching the Nets they are hiring a new coach
He will be for the time being, and I hope he lets Marshon get some burn.

Also, your sig ... you do realize George Washington said, "I can't tell a lie," and not Lincoln. Right?

rurichie
12-27-2012, 02:44 PM
Did you guys forget Sloan had problems with Stack also - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlUV1hIrr_A

strahan92osi72
12-27-2012, 02:44 PM
homie Avery Johnson sucked. There is no defending that guy. I actually thought he was bringing his Dallas coaching to that team. He didn't. He has players like Deron running off screens to generate his offense, since when Deron that type of player? Brook Lopez doesn't get touches, Reggie Evans gets plays drawn for him. And I love Wallace but who the f' draws plays for Gerald Wallace and saids the offensive plays are going to be drawn for him to create mismatch, you have Deron Williams and Joe Johnson as 2nd and 3rd options. :laugh2:

MarShon can't get minutes over Toka IDK what his name is but he ain't a better shooter than MarShon. Bogans is getting shots over him. Blatche and Lopez were paired together, that was it. Avery was just exposed. He needed to go. LOLS

No doubt he sucked. But the Nets problems are a lot bigger than Avery.

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:45 PM
No doubt he sucked. But the Nets problems are a lot bigger than Avery.

That's a pretty big problem when 1/2 the roster doesn't like the coach.

Jint.
12-27-2012, 02:48 PM
"He Battled"

PraiseJesus
12-27-2012, 02:48 PM
its Sloan

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 02:49 PM
Dwight killed off SVG and Mike Brown.

Deron Williams killed of Jerry Sloan and Avery Johnson.

This is why these goofballs wanted to play with each other so much in the beginning. They are so alike.

JNoel
12-27-2012, 02:50 PM
Man, it seems like when PSD goes crazy over "Will this coach get fired"...a day or two later, that coach actually gets fired! :laugh2:

First it was Mike Brown, and now its Avery Johnson.

:bow:

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 02:51 PM
PJ aint coaching the Nets they are hiring a new coach

PJ 20% healthy limping around with a cane better than any coach Prokhy and Billy King hire.

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 02:52 PM
Dang Avery's son is PISSED off.


@itsaveryjohnson

I'm sorry are best players couldn't make open shots. Yeah that's my dads fault totally...

The expectations were way to high for this team. We didn't even have a losing record.... Didn't even give my dad a full season. #OUTRAGE

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 02:53 PM
Dang Avery's son is PISSED off.

What is he saying?

rurichie
12-27-2012, 02:53 PM
Dang Avery's son is PISSED off.

I was gonna say i wasn't the only to see this right?!

CaptainClutch
12-27-2012, 02:54 PM
Avery's son's twitter haha

Snakeyestx
12-27-2012, 02:54 PM
Wow! That'll make an interesting "The Association" episode!

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:54 PM
avery johnson jr is mad as ****.

torocan
12-27-2012, 02:55 PM
Forget Phil Jackson.

He isn't coming out of retirement THIS late in the season with THIS Roster. Phil Jackson cherry picks rosters.

No way Sloan comes back after the Deron Williams fall out unless Deron managed to mend fences.

SVG, JVG, and Nate MacMillan are pretty much the choices.

netsgiantsyanks
12-27-2012, 02:55 PM
What is he saying?

how they didn't give avery a full season and it isn't his fault that the team sucked. valid points too.

sharqstealth
12-27-2012, 02:56 PM
Dysfunctional organization! I dont think avery deserves to be fired, dwill and jj had been sucking all season long, why dont they held these guys accountable... poor front office... lol

CaptainClutch
12-27-2012, 02:56 PM
I love how he blames it on us missing open shots......our offense DOESNT FLOW

B'sCeltsPatsSox
12-27-2012, 02:56 PM
Baby Avery's account...

https://twitter.com/itsaveryjohnson

JNoel
12-27-2012, 02:56 PM
I wonder if Derek Fisher could coach this team?

colinskik
12-27-2012, 02:57 PM
how they didn't give avery a full season and it isn't his fault that the team sucked. valid points too.
Valid, yes. Appropriate for Twitter? No.

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 02:57 PM
@itsaveryjohnson

I'm sorry are best players couldn't make open shots. Yeah that's my dads fault totally...

The expectations were way to high for this team. We didn't even have a losing record.... Didn't even give my dad a full season. #OUTRAGE

man STFU already, your dad sucked coaching. Devin Harris hated him, Stacks been on 2 teams that fired him. Deron Williams is playing like Frank Williams. Joe Johnson is scared of taking over games, Lopez can't get the ball in the post and MarShon Brooks doesn't remember the last time he shot a jumper in the 2nd qtr. Deuces homie.The East is weak and you 14-14 STFU.

BigBlueCrew
12-27-2012, 02:57 PM
Dang Avery's son is PISSED off.

Damn kid...get your own thoughts :mad:

But seriously....he knows whats up. Thats what happens when you come up with an idiotic poster like "Blueprint for Greatness" and then proceed to go 14-14. Its too bad for Avery Johnson.

CaptainClutch
12-27-2012, 02:57 PM
I wonder if Derek Fisher could coach this team?

LOL him and Stackhouse ;)

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 03:00 PM
man STFU already, your dad sucked coaching. Devin Harris hated him, Stacks been on 2 teams that fired him. Deron Williams is playing like Frank Williams. Joe Johnson is scared of taking over games, Lopez can't get the ball in the post and MarShon Brooks doesn't remember the last time he shot a jumper in the 2nd qtr. Deuces homie.The East is weak and you 14-14 STFU.

You mean garbage Devin Harris who has bounced around like a yo-yo from the Nets to Jazz to Hawks? That dude has no credibility and should be thankful he has 1 finals appearance in his career.

PleaseBeNice
12-27-2012, 03:00 PM
**** deron williams

DrDre94
12-27-2012, 03:00 PM
He will be for the time being, and I hope he lets Marshon get some burn.

Also, your sig ... you do realize George Washington said, "I can't tell a lie," and not Lincoln. Right?

Take it easy, he's a slow one lol

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 03:01 PM
Little Avery Johnson is prbly more pissed off he can't go to Jay-Z and Drake concerts at Barclay w/ VIP treatment anymore. DEUCES!

sharqstealth
12-27-2012, 03:02 PM
What is he saying?

He said their best player cant hit an open shot! That is probably deron... so how does he like to be a nets fan now??? Haha

SteBO
12-27-2012, 03:03 PM
Little Avery Johnson is prbly more pissed off he can't go to Jay-Z and Drake concerts at Barclay w/ VIP treatment anymore. DEUCES!
Probably? It IS the reason haha. Can't blame him though....I'd be ticked myself.

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 03:04 PM
You mean garbage Devin Harris who has bounced around like a yo-yo from the Nets to Jazz to Hawks? That dude has no credibility and should be thankful he has 1 finals appearance in his career.

Homie it's the whole roster! The leaks out have the whole team against Avery. It's not just Deron. They know what's up. Avery Johnson ain't jack in this town. You had Dirk Nowitzki in the West it ain't that hard, now he has a balanced roster in the weak Eastern Conf. and 14-14. Deuces!:cool:

Snakeyestx
12-27-2012, 03:04 PM
I'd like to see if SVG has a "New York State of Mind" and can reign in this team.

Of course if Deron Williams once again whines and complains about coaching for a third time, he'll have basically painted himself into a corner as being "uncoachable."

blahblahyoutoo
12-27-2012, 03:04 PM
Sry thought this was kinda funny.

http://instagram.com/p/Tv-NAPSiND/

please expand the acronym "HNIC" for us that don't speak the lingo.

Young2Kinsler
12-27-2012, 03:05 PM
Whaaaaa? But Avery had dinner with Deron and they were thunder buddies and stuff?

Lmao Nets=Jets

Circus!

DrDre94
12-27-2012, 03:06 PM
please expand the acronym "HNIC" for us that don't speak the lingo.

Head N***a In Charge

tnewkirk
12-27-2012, 03:06 PM
wow.

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 03:06 PM
Homie it's the whole roster! The leaks out have the whole team against Avery. It's not just Deron. They know what's up. Avery Johnson ain't jack in this town. You had Dirk Nowitzki in the West it ain't that hard, now he has a balanced roster in the weak Eastern Conf. and 14-14. Deuces!:cool:

Deron Williams is aging, declining and overrated. That's the problem. Nets would have been better served letting him go to Dallas. He is not worth the $$$ they gave him.

ThunderousDemon
12-27-2012, 03:06 PM
The Nets are going to hire Mike Brown.

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 03:06 PM
@TommyBeer
Deron Williams actually hurt his wrist shoving Avery Johnson under the bus

sharqstealth
12-27-2012, 03:06 PM
Damn kid...get your own thoughts :mad:

But seriously....he knows whats up. Thats what happens when you come up with an idiotic poster like "Blueprint for Greatness" and then proceed to go 14-14. Its too bad for Avery Johnson.

They should just change that blueprint to "blueprint of suckness"

colinskik
12-27-2012, 03:06 PM
please expand the acronym "HNIC" for us that don't speak the lingo.
Figure it out.

ThunderousDemon
12-27-2012, 03:07 PM
@TommyBeer
Deron Williams actually hurt his wrist shoving Avery Johnson under the bus

:laugh2:

CaptainClutch
12-27-2012, 03:07 PM
This is a circus. This team was 11-4 and had everything going for them. Beat the Clippers, destroyed the Celtics the first two times and now this debacle? Time for a new offensive system.

Fact about the Nets Offensive System: the Nets have the WORST 1st to 2nd half point differential in the NBA

RonE Coleman
12-27-2012, 03:07 PM
Well we all know D Will is a system point guard, Maybe Avery didn't fit the system ;)

DoMeFavors
12-27-2012, 03:08 PM
Id take Don Nelson

KniCks4LiFe
12-27-2012, 03:08 PM
Deron Williams is aging, declining and overrated. That's the problem. Nets would have been better served letting him go to Dallas. He is not worth the $$$ they gave him.

Steve Nash is. Lakers are so young. :rolleyes:

wizardsfan3
12-27-2012, 03:08 PM
Head ***** In Charge

tnewkirk
12-27-2012, 03:08 PM
think they already talked to phil?

TeamSeattle
12-27-2012, 03:09 PM
Id take Don Nelson

Would you take his 50 bottles of pre-game scotch in the locker room tho?

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 03:10 PM
Steve Nash is. Lakers are so young. :rolleyes:

Steve Nash is actually smart and makes his teammates better. He can be a dinosaur and still make his teammates better. And he won 2 League MVPs.


What has Deron really done in his career? He balled with the Jazz only to yearly get his butt whooped by the Lakers. And then ran out one of the greatest coaches in NBA history.

ThunderousDemon
12-27-2012, 03:11 PM
Was Avery Johnson more of a offensive minded coach or defensive minded coach?

2-ONE-5
12-27-2012, 03:11 PM
They're underachieving because of Avery, he isn't maximizing their talent. He's a solid coach, but not for the Nets with the personnel they have. Another issue they have is they need someone who is more of a leader and isn't afraid to put players in their place; Avery is more of a teacher, isn't as aggressive per say. If the Nets got someone like SVG, who is a no bs type coach, this team will be night and day from what it is now.

yea im sure Avery is the reason D-Will and JJ are shooting 39%

JNoel
12-27-2012, 03:11 PM
Would you take his 50 bottles of pre-game scotch in the locker room tho?

Phil Jackson probably got stoned a few times too before the Laker games :laugh2:

sharqstealth
12-27-2012, 03:12 PM
think they already talked to phil?

Remember what phil said? He's not going to take clumsy rosters...just saying...

blahblahyoutoo
12-27-2012, 03:12 PM
Figure it out.

i had Head ______ in Charge figured out but was taught by liberal media that the N word is a no no, so I was afraid to use it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ

JNoel
12-27-2012, 03:13 PM
D12 fan is lurking :speechless:

ThunderousDemon
12-27-2012, 03:14 PM
i had head ______ in charge but was taught by liberal media that the n word is a no no, so i was afraid to use it.

liburul media!!!!!

Don take-ed my gunzzzz!!!!! da communists r cummingz!!!!!

torocan
12-27-2012, 03:14 PM
@TommyBeer
Deron Williams actually hurt his wrist shoving Avery Johnson under the bus

ROFLMAO.

Ok, that tweet was cruel... but still hilarious. :D

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 03:14 PM
D12 fan is lurking :speechless:

Cool. He'll be back in February and hopefully he won't get into anymore trouble.

TheRunKiller
12-27-2012, 03:15 PM
its all Joe Johnsons fault hes a lazy player he dont care about ****

DoMeFavors
12-27-2012, 03:15 PM
Phil Jackson is probably never coaching again, I want Don Nelson

TheRunKiller
12-27-2012, 03:16 PM
Phil Jackson is probably never coaching again, I want Don Nelson

Nets will still be garbage either way

RLundi
12-27-2012, 03:17 PM
I'd love for Stan Van Gundy to take this gig and have the Nets contending again.

Avery Johnson is just awful.

ThunderousDemon
12-27-2012, 03:18 PM
Nets will still be garbage either way

Damn, you're relentless.

WAYNEBO
12-27-2012, 03:19 PM
Jerry Sloan, now Avery Johnson. The pedestaled "superstar" got his wish -- No excuses now Deron.

~ Joe Johnson, The Key to .500 Victory

sharqstealth
12-27-2012, 03:19 PM
I'd love for Stan Van Gundy to take this gig and have the Nets contending again.

Avery Johnson is just awful.

SVG=could be
Contending again=when did that happen?

CaptainClutch
12-27-2012, 03:19 PM
Will PJ coach a game?

futureman
12-27-2012, 03:19 PM
So glad the Jazz got rid of D-will.

PleaseBeNice
12-27-2012, 03:20 PM
Deron williams and joe johnson are two of my least favorite players. They seem genuinely lazy and are in it for the money strictly.

RLundi
12-27-2012, 03:20 PM
SVG=could be
Contending again=when did that happen?

They started the season 11-4, I thought they had a chance to win 50 and be a top-3 seed.

NJ Raven
12-27-2012, 03:21 PM
Will PJ coach a game?

Can't imagine us naming a replacement by tomorrow.

colinskik
12-27-2012, 03:21 PM
i had Head ______ in Charge figured out but was taught by liberal media that the N word is a no no, so I was afraid to use it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ
I can't tell what degree of sarcasm you used there, if any.

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 03:25 PM
Can't imagine us naming a replacement by tomorrow.

PJ Carlesimo already named interim head coach. Just hope none of your players decide to choke him if things go bad.

sammyvine
12-27-2012, 03:26 PM
Deron williams and joe johnson are two of my least favorite players. They seem genuinely lazy and are in it for the money strictly.

This

Never really work like players like Kobe, Garnett, Duncan do.

CaptainClutch
12-27-2012, 03:26 PM
Jeez these next two games (Charlotte and Cleveland) are going to be a DISASTER if we lose. Both at Barclays too

TheRunKiller
12-27-2012, 03:27 PM
when your starting backcourt makes over 100 million & your still .500 something aint right

Greet
12-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Stan Van Gundy has no interest in Brooklyn job

juster1028
12-27-2012, 03:33 PM
I blame DMF.

BHF
12-27-2012, 03:34 PM
about time that rat face mother****er had to go

mekedubs
12-27-2012, 03:34 PM
Deron Williams is aging, declining and overrated. That's the problem. Nets would have been better served letting him go to Dallas. He is not worth the $$$ they gave him.

^^^This. The analysis is that Deron has to score 25 to 30 points for them to win... Try telling that to Chris Paul or Rajon Rondo... Paul is averaging 16pts and 9ast a game and Rondo is averaging 13pts and about 11ast a game and BOTH are heralded as being better pg's than Deron... They affect games with leadership and defense, which leads to wins...

As a "star" pg, you take over a game when you have to... Deron made Sloan resign now he gets Avery fired, two coaches whose been to the Finals... The Nets re-signed a soft, often injured center, an iso player in Joe Johnson, a slasher "sketchy" shooter in Wallace and this is all Avery's fault??!! Ok...

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 03:36 PM
Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Stan Van Gundy has no interest in Brooklyn job

Brian Schmuck hasn't been right about anything. Just look at the Dwight situation when he said Orlando would never trade Dwight to LA.

Hawkeye15
12-27-2012, 03:37 PM
congrats to Deron for getting two coaches fired!

Slowly becoming one of my least favorite players.

Badluck33
12-27-2012, 03:38 PM
congrats to Deron for getting two coaches fired!

Slowly becoming one of my least favorite players.

hes doing it pretty quick for me. he 'slowly' started when he got Sloan fired.

DH and Deron Williams are meant for each other.

RLundi
12-27-2012, 03:38 PM
^^^This. The analysis is that Deron has to score 25 to 30 points for them to win... Try telling that to Chris Paul or Rajon Rondo... Paul is averaging 16pts and 9ast a game and Rondo is averaging 13pts and about 11ast a game and BOTH are heralded as being better pg's than Deron... They affect games with leadership and defense, which leads to wins...

As a "star" pg, you take over a game when you have to... Deron made Sloan resign now he gets Avery fired, two coaches whose been to the Finals... The Nets re-signed a soft, often injured center, an iso player in Joe Johnson, a slasher "sketchy" shooter in Wallace and this is all Avery's fault??!! Ok...

I agree with all of your posts, but Avery Johnson is crap. He fizzled in Dallas and flopped in NJ. He was given every opportunity to succeed and didn't, no questions asked. All his yelling and screaming just doesn't work; players tune it out, especially veterans. He had to go.

NJ Raven
12-27-2012, 03:39 PM
Scalabrine for HC. Lets get it.

Hawkeye15
12-27-2012, 03:39 PM
not his fault they gave him a team full of overpaid/underacheiving players.

partially this unfortunately. Nobody on that team is worth their deal in a starting uniform. On top of it, their leader has shown that he loafs through games before when he isn't happy. Well, good luck to Nets fans, I honestly am not caring about them anymore with Deron being part of running 2 coaches off now.

Shawn2timer
12-27-2012, 03:40 PM
"Johnson, who was in the final year of his contract, was named Eastern Conference Coach of the Month for October and November following an 11-4 start."

Panic much?

This is the dumbest coaching move I've seen since.. wait.. Lakers hiring D'antoni.. Didn't have to look too far back. The league is filled with inept front offices

Hawkeye15
12-27-2012, 03:40 PM
hes doing it pretty quick for me. he 'slowly' started when he got Sloan fired.

DH and Deron Williams are meant for each other.

yep. I actually liked Deron until the season he ran Sloan off. Now I have a distaste for him.

KnickaBocka.44
12-27-2012, 03:41 PM
@TommyBeer
Deron Williams actually hurt his wrist shoving Avery Johnson under the bus

:laugh:

KnickaBocka.44
12-27-2012, 03:44 PM
Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Stan Van Gundy has no interest in Brooklyn job

Called it....just sayin...

colinskik
12-27-2012, 03:45 PM
yep. I actually liked Deron until the season he ran Sloan off. Now I have a distaste for him.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's all speculation that he got Sloan fired. And as far as Avery's firing, if you want to blame Deron then you have to blame the other players who also gave up on him, i.e. Wallace. Without evidence to the point it seems pretty shortsighted to judge Deron's character, but that seems like the norm for you.

JerseysFinest
12-27-2012, 03:45 PM
yep. I actually liked Deron until the season he ran Sloan off. Now I have a distaste for him.

As I said earlier, I wouldn't put this all on Deron. He did obviously play a role, because he is underperforming and he made some comments to the media a week or two ago, but a lot of players disliked this. Even Gerald Wallace came out yesterday questioning the sets and his teammates' efforts. Joe Johnson and Deron Williams are not playing up to expectations, but at the same time, Avery has lost the team. It was an inevitable outcome, one that I don't think is because of Deron alone.

VillaMaravilla
12-27-2012, 03:47 PM
Man I called it before the season the Dwill and JJ would stink to the point where Avery was going to be the patsy.....good luck Nets woth those horrific contracts atleast Amare plays his butt off when healthy and only has 2 years left!

SteBO
12-27-2012, 03:52 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's all speculation that he got Sloan fired. And as far as Avery's firing, if you want to blame Deron then you have to blame the other players who also gave up on him, i.e. Wallace. Without evidence to the point it seems pretty shortsighted to judge Deron's character, but that seems like the norm for you.
Excuse me, but do you have any evidence to suggest Deron didn't get Sloan fired? It's not a coincidence that Utah just days after traded Deron off to NJ, and that prior to Sloan stepping away he got into a very heated exchange with Sloan during a home Jazz game. Put two and two together, and you'd find your answer. It's common knowledge at this point dude.

Maybe you didn't know all of that, and if that's the case you shouldn't be placing the "shortsighted" label on anyone.

sammyvine
12-27-2012, 03:53 PM
hes doing it pretty quick for me. he 'slowly' started when he got Sloan fired.

DH and Deron Williams are meant for each other.

be careful when you knock those around you

he never realised how good he had it with sloan who made him a top 2 pg in the league at that imo.

i remember the debates about who was better between cp3 and deron.

RaiderLakersA's
12-27-2012, 03:54 PM
At least they waited until after Christmas.

Shawn2timer
12-27-2012, 03:55 PM
As I said earlier, I wouldn't put this all on Deron. He did obviously play a role, because he is underperforming and he made some comments to the media a week or two ago, but a lot of players disliked this. Even Gerald Wallace came out yesterday questioning the sets and his teammates' efforts. Joe Johnson and Deron Williams are not playing up to expectations, but at the same time, Avery has lost the team. It was an inevitable outcome, one that I don't think is because of Deron alone.

Funny how the inevitable played out in 10 games during half of which Brook was injured. He was literally named coach of the month last month. Don't make this seem like some situation that boiled for months and eventually exploded. Deron has just been pure *** first ******, that cant just be the "sets".

Call em like I see em. Deron 2, coaches 0

sunsfan88
12-27-2012, 03:59 PM
Nets need to trade Lopez to the 76ers for Bynum.

Then if Bynum doesn't work out, sign Dwight at the end of the year.

colinskik
12-27-2012, 04:03 PM
Excuse me, but do you have any evidence to suggest Deron didn't get Sloan fired? It's not a coincidence that Utah just days after traded Deron off to NJ, and that prior to Sloan stepping away he got into a very heated exchange with Sloan during a home Jazz game. Put two and two together, and you'd find your answer. It's common knowledge at this point dude.

Maybe you didn't know all of that, and if that's the case you shouldn't be placing the "shortsighted" label on anyone.
I don't need to provide evidence because I'm not making a claim. I can, however, speculate that Sloan was fed up with the way the Jazz FO gave him little respect as compared with his players and the tiff with Deron was the straw that broke the camel's back. But I'm not claiming that to be true. Either way, I don't let it cloud my judgement on any one person's character because I know there's no facts to support it.

Putting two and two together, like you say, is assumption. Again, that does not make it fact. This "common knowledge" you so boldly speak of is nothing more than rumor, perpetuated to the point where people like yourself take it as fact.

That much I know, and have known. What I was asking was whether there was any factual basis for the claims. Since it seems like that is still absent, it's fair to say that the poster is shortsighted for judging someone he doesn't know based on rumor.

Your turn.

Max.This
12-27-2012, 04:07 PM
Excuse me, but do you have any evidence to suggest Deron didn't get Sloan fired? It's not a coincidence that Utah just days after traded Deron off to NJ, and that prior to Sloan stepping away he got into a very heated exchange with Sloan during a home Jazz game. Put two and two together, and you'd find your answer. It's common knowledge at this point dude.

Maybe you didn't know all of that, and if that's the case you shouldn't be placing the "shortsighted" label on anyone.

Can you really just ask someone for evidence without having evidence for your own claims? Coincidence is not causation, no one knows except for Sloan, the owner and Deron. Everything else is all speculation

Hawkeye15
12-27-2012, 04:08 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's all speculation that he got Sloan fired. And as far as Avery's firing, if you want to blame Deron then you have to blame the other players who also gave up on him, i.e. Wallace. Without evidence to the point it seems pretty shortsighted to judge Deron's character, but that seems like the norm for you.

Deron was the leader and the voicer on both. He holds more responsibility. Avery lost his lockerrom in Dallas too. But after an 11-4 start, his team tunes him out that much?

And I haven't really liked Deron since it became public his feud with Sloan. And now management jumps the gun yet again when their star player, Deron, speaks, instead of trying to let it work itself out. They weren't winning a chip this year, my god. Let the team play together, through ups and downs, for a season before just flipping coaches.

HYFR
12-27-2012, 04:15 PM
Doubt they get svg. IMO McMillan gets this job and it will def be an upgrade.

SteBO
12-27-2012, 04:16 PM
Can you really just ask someone for evidence without having evidence for your own claims? Coincidence is not causation, no one knows except for Sloan, the owner and Deron. Everything else is all speculation
That is evidence. To each his own I guess. I see what you're saying, but it just seems sooo obvious to me. Jerry Sloan is going down as one of the greatest coaches of all time, and he had no intentions of walking away from the game until Deron Williams started taking over things. The timing of that whole situation is way too shady from the complaining from Deron to the his last days in Utah which coincides completely with Sloan stepping down.

Not much more is needed to draw this conclusion, at least to me.

DoMeFavors
12-27-2012, 04:18 PM
Avery's system was not built for a PG it was built for someone like Dirk

colinskik
12-27-2012, 04:19 PM
Deron was the leader and the voicer on both. He holds more responsibility. Avery lost his lockerrom in Dallas too. But after an 11-4 start, his team tunes him out that much?

And I haven't really liked Deron since it became public his feud with Sloan. And now management jumps the gun yet again when their star player, Deron, speaks, instead of trying to let it work itself out. They weren't winning a chip this year, my god. Let the team play together, through ups and downs, for a season before just flipping coaches.
The Nets aren't a new team by any stretch of the imagination. The core has been here since last year, despite some injuries. Maybe he just wasn't the right coach for this team. Maybe the decision to release him was already stirring within the FO before Deron made his comments. Why let the team flounder this year because "they weren't winning a chip this year"? There's a lot of money to be had in the Brooklyn Nets and it helps if they are successful. Plus, maybe they get the right coach, find their stride and make a strong push in the playoffs. You never know. But to just let Avery hang around when it's clearly not working is the completely wrong move.

jrm2054
12-27-2012, 04:19 PM
Saw this coming

colinskik
12-27-2012, 04:21 PM
That is evidence. To each his own I guess. I see what you're saying, but it just seems sooo obvious to me. Jerry Sloan is going down as one of the greatest coaches of all time, and he had no intentions of walking away from the game until Deron Williams started taking over things. The timing of that whole situation is way too shady from the complaining from Deron to the his last days in Utah which coincides completely with Sloan stepping down.

Not much more is needed to draw this conclusion, at least to me.
You clearly don't know what evidence is then. What you're doing is connecting dots, which doesn't always lead you down the correct path. Things may seem overwhelmingly one way from the outside looking in, when in reality it's a completely different scenario.

In a court of law, your technique for coming to a conclusion wouldn't stand up.

Hawkeye15
12-27-2012, 04:28 PM
The Nets aren't a new team by any stretch of the imagination. The core has been here since last year, despite some injuries. Maybe he just wasn't the right coach for this team. Maybe the decision to release him was already stirring within the FO before Deron made his comments. Why let the team flounder this year because "they weren't winning a chip this year"? There's a lot of money to be had in the Brooklyn Nets and it helps if they are successful. Plus, maybe they get the right coach, find their stride and make a strong push in the playoffs. You never know. But to just let Avery hang around when it's clearly not working is the completely wrong move.

Lopez missed the year. They acquired Wallace late. Johnson is new. Roles are new. And none of that actually matters. What matters here is, if the Nets want to operate under the "we win now or lop heads off" motive, they shouldn't have Deron as their feature player, someone who has now been involved in running 2 coaches off, one of which a top 5-10 coach in history. What message does that send to incoming coaches? "Better win, or the PG will get fussy and we have to can you". Good luck getting someone relative.

elizur
12-27-2012, 04:29 PM
They're underachieving because of Avery, he isn't maximizing their talent. He's a solid coach, but not for the Nets with the personnel they have. Another issue they have is they need someone who is more of a leader and isn't afraid to put players in their place; Avery is more of a teacher, isn't as aggressive per say. If the Nets got someone like SVG, who is a no bs type coach, this team will be night and day from what it is now.

Yup... SVG really handled all that dwight B.S. well, right out of a job.

smood999
12-27-2012, 04:30 PM
I said this sometime last yr on here...Deron Williams is inching even closer now to becoming Stephon Marbury...he is very close now to getting the Marbury treatment from the NY media

StarvingKnick22
12-27-2012, 04:32 PM
Watch them make a move for Phil.
In the end they will probably get Jerry Sloan.

AIRMAR72
12-27-2012, 04:32 PM
wow

colinskik
12-27-2012, 04:32 PM
Lopez missed the year. They acquired Wallace late. Johnson is new. Roles are new. And none of that actually matters. What matters here is, if the Nets want to operate under the "we win now or lop heads off" motive, they shouldn't have Deron as their feature player, someone who has now been involved in running 2 coaches off, one of which a top 5-10 coach in history. What message does that send to incoming coaches? "Better win, or the PG will get fussy and we have to can you". Good luck getting someone relative.
No, you are still side stepping the fact that Deron has NOT run anyone out of a job. Despite what you want to think, there's no solid evidence pointing to that claim.

The reality of the Avery situation was that he wasn't coaching the team well. Yes, Deron hasn't played at a level we're used to seeing, but if you've watched any Nets games this year since they started to slide, you'd know that the team wasn't playing to its advantages. And that is the coaches fault. At the end of the day the FO has hiring/firing power, not the players.

StarvingKnick22
12-27-2012, 04:33 PM
JS is the only coach that can put Deron in his place.

SoFreshNsoClean
12-27-2012, 04:34 PM
whats with the mcmillan hype though? Why did he get fired in portland again?

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 04:37 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine about 36 minutes ago

According to NBA coaching source, Nets launching broad search that will include call to Phil Jackson to gauge Phil's interest in Brooklyn.

Mr Costanza
12-27-2012, 04:38 PM
Every article about this makes their first point the 11-4 start. Of those 11 I see two quality wins. 4 if you want to count Boston without Rondo. They are 14-14 because their schedule got tougher. They are a true .500 team, with or without Avery.

SteBO
12-27-2012, 04:38 PM
Smart move to at least give Phil a call if you're Brooklyn, though I do think he'll end up laughing it off.

DoMeFavors
12-27-2012, 04:39 PM
Every article about this makes their first point the 11-4 start. Of those 11 wins I see two quality wins. 4 if you want to count Boston without Rondo. They are 14-14 because their schedule got tougher. They are a true .500 team, with or without Avery.

Well your team was below .500 with Dantoni and without him actually started doing well.

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 04:39 PM
Smart move to at least give Phil a call if you're Brooklyn, though I do think he'll end up laughing it off.

Not if Prokhorov lets Phil make personnel decisions that fit the triangle. That would be sweet. I actually think this roster is well-equipped for the Triangle Offense.

I want to see Phil back on an NBA bench dammit!

Hawkeye15
12-27-2012, 04:40 PM
No, you are still side stepping the fact that Deron has NOT run anyone out of a job. Despite what you want to think, there's no solid evidence pointing to that claim.

tell you what. You believe the side of the story you want to, I will do the same. On top of everything that came out, why would you suddenly trade your franchise PG, a top 6 player entering his prime, right after the legendary Sloan just quits out of nowhere, which just happened to be after the feud between him and Deron went public?

You are not changing my opinion, I don't care if I change yours. That is not my motive, its instead to display why I don't like Deron, or any star who ends up controlling other people's destiny due in part because of their own ****** struggles. "Not my fault I have sucked for over 2 years, better get me someone else to blame!"

SteBO
12-27-2012, 04:41 PM
Not if Prokhorov lets Phil make personnel decisions that fit the triangle. That would be sweet. I actually think this roster is well-equipped for the Triangle Offense.

I want to see Phil back on an NBA bench dammit!
True. I was stunned that Prok even pulled off the Deron trade in 2010-2011 to begin with; that caught most people off guard, so I wouldn't put it past him.

JiffyMix88
12-27-2012, 04:44 PM
Yup... SVG really handled all that dwight B.S. well, right out of a job.

I'm pretty sure he didn't care to keep hearing the same questions everyday so he said **** it im gonna let people see Dwight ain't about smiles and fun but rather he's a dick.


And I hope he does sign in Brooklyn so Dwight has to sign with him as Head Coach if he wants to go there lol

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-27-2012, 04:44 PM
True. I was stunned that Prok even pulled off the Deron trade in 2010-2011 to begin with; that caught most people off guard, so I wouldn't put it past him.

Prokhy is way richer than Old Man Buss. Hell, he can give Phil 20M a yr. He could care less. And Billy King would essentially be working under Phil. How can Phil say no to that?

Prokhy's goal was that w/in 5 yrs of him becoming owner, he wanted to win a championship, and I think he's set on that goal.