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Towelie
12-24-2012, 11:12 AM
I want everyone thats in the league to vote on the rules for keepers this year.

Keeper Costs:

We get to keep 2 players (Thus not killing the draft in any way really) these players will be a "Where you drafted them last year plus two rounds" So if player is a 10th round pick. You lose the 8th round pick for him. You can obviously pick to not keep anyone, and just use the draft to pick the team.

Players that are undrafted normally cost 5 bucks later so in other words some value needs to be given up. My suggestion for these players would be Where ever they are drafted this year you get two less rounds. So a guy drafted in the 10th round you would give up your 12th round pick based on ADP boards for this year.

Draft will be the same as the last 7 years.

If you have questions or suggestions of other ways to run the keepers please let me know.

WhyDuquette
12-24-2012, 11:25 AM
Towelie, if i traded for a player it would be from where the other owner drafted them correct?

Towelie
12-24-2012, 11:31 AM
Correct!

WhyDuquette
12-24-2012, 11:41 AM
Correct!

Ok cool,

Only other question is, will the draft order be random or will it be reverse to where you finished record wise?

ruckus16969
12-24-2012, 12:52 PM
Any open spots? I was in a couples back. Had to go to prison an lost my spot

Green_Monster
12-24-2012, 01:43 PM
I was in it last year. How do we find our team from last year? I'm not sure if I want to keep anyone.

Edit: Found it.

ZHawk1123
12-24-2012, 01:51 PM
I think these rules are fair.

-Lavigne43-
12-24-2012, 02:29 PM
Damn. I thought I was only losing a 2nd with Stanton. MAybe I should just keep Machado and Profar.

Boston-Born
12-24-2012, 04:00 PM
Any open spots? I was in a couples back. Had to go to prison an lost my spot

How is the old state prison up in Warren these days?

terriblemente69
12-24-2012, 05:02 PM
Nothing against the rules and im in .....

avrpatsfan
12-24-2012, 06:17 PM
In.

AI
12-24-2012, 06:48 PM
I'll dew it again

Corey
12-24-2012, 08:16 PM
Back

penuch
12-25-2012, 12:07 AM
Back and I think those rules will do just fine.

ruckus16969
12-25-2012, 07:26 PM
How is the old state prison up in Warren these days?

I didnt make it there I went to Windam then from there to pre release in Portland

GrkGawdofWalkz
12-25-2012, 09:34 PM
Well if this is a check in again, well I'm in. But, I really need to stop ending up in last place.

Towelie
12-26-2012, 10:19 AM
You can't help what you are Grk.

JMP83
12-26-2012, 01:28 PM
Those rules sound fine. I assume if you traded for a player drafted in the first round and are also keeping your own first round pick you then lose your second round pick, correct?

wolf82
12-26-2012, 01:34 PM
I'm in... I just wish that I only had to give up the round I picked them last year. I guess I'll just have to see who i should keep.

AI
12-26-2012, 01:44 PM
I'm in... I just wish that I only had to give up the round I picked them last year. I guess I'll just have to see who i should keep.

Yeah, it sucks, I thought I'd only have to give up my 3rd round pick for Strasburg. :(

Towelie
12-26-2012, 01:46 PM
Those rules sound fine. I assume if you traded for a player drafted in the first round and are also keeping your own first round pick you then lose your second round pick, correct?

Correct.

wolf82
12-26-2012, 03:34 PM
Yeah, it sucks, I thought I'd only have to give up my 3rd round pick for Strasburg. :(

Yeah I was gonna keep Shields, but he isn't worth a 3rd rounder.


Quick Question I have Salvador Perez.. he was never drafted. I picked him off waivers. What would I give up for him?

Towelie
12-26-2012, 04:59 PM
Perez would be a "Average ADP minus two rounds"

penuch
12-26-2012, 08:29 PM
Yeah I was gonna keep Shields, but he isn't worth a 3rd rounder.


Quick Question I have Salvador Perez.. he was never drafted. I picked him off waivers. What would I give up for him?

Just to correct this, he was drafted in the 15th rd by me.

Draft Results (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/mlb/2012/3367/draftresults)

wolf82
12-27-2012, 08:51 AM
Just to correct this, he was drafted in the 15th rd by me.

Draft Results (http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/mlb/2012/3367/draftresults)

Damn I didn't see that. Oh well that not bad 13th rounder.

Shields and Kennedy def not worth 3rd rounders.

wolf82
12-28-2012, 09:57 AM
I definately hope to draft better this season. Just a quick question. Does the draft start end of Feb or more at the end of March?

GrkGawdofWalkz
12-28-2012, 02:13 PM
You can't help what you are Grk.

Fair enough. :D

Towelie
12-28-2012, 03:03 PM
I definately hope to draft better this season. Just a quick question. Does the draft start end of Feb or more at the end of March?

It should be in March.

wolf82
12-30-2012, 10:45 AM
It should be in March.

Cool, I hope to have a better team than last year. I drafted Aubrey Huff.... What was I thinking last year.

redsox4life2434
01-03-2013, 02:48 AM
Hey boys, its been a while. I wanna join this league. Im very active and competitive when it comes to fantasy!

wolf82
01-23-2013, 11:40 AM
Hey boys, its been a while. I wanna join this league. Im very active and competitive when it comes to fantasy!

Well who ever doesn't make it into the league, can always make the second league we made two years ago.

I'm willing to reopen the other league for who ever doesn't make it into the league. Lets see who wants to play and can't be in the league and we will go from there.

Fukudome
01-23-2013, 12:18 PM
Rizzo for a 21st round pick :win:

Nomar
01-23-2013, 12:19 PM
Rizzo for a 21st round pick :win:

You jinxed him he's getting hurt.

Fukudome
01-23-2013, 12:54 PM
Still probably better to have a month of Rizzo than almost anyone in the 21st :laugh2:

Bird Fan
01-23-2013, 01:22 PM
Very active fantasy player. Id love a spot if open. I have done PSD Celtics Fanasty/PSD Pats Fantasy also. Send me messege or info.

Baseball is really cool fanasty sport.

ManRam
01-24-2013, 11:29 AM
Not sure what the status of this is, but if there's room I'd like in again. Missed last year's, but was in it for a few years before that. Let me know.

wolf82
01-24-2013, 12:50 PM
I'm still in...can't wait till March

ZHawk1123
01-24-2013, 01:54 PM
I'm in as always

Melo15
01-24-2013, 03:04 PM
My team is going to be so bad this year. I traded like all my picks to win it last year :laugh2:

cclipper44
01-24-2013, 03:53 PM
i'd be interested in joining in the second league if there is enough interest. I was in a PSD league awhile back i do believe.

-Lavigne43-
01-24-2013, 06:33 PM
My team is going to be so bad this year. I traded like all my picks to win it last year :laugh2:

I don't think you have a pick until the 5th or 6th round, lol! Good thing you won.

AI
01-24-2013, 08:40 PM
Definitely in again, and yes Melo, you are screwed. :laugh2:

ZHawk1123
01-25-2013, 08:40 AM
My team is going to be so bad this year. I traded like all my picks to win it last year :laugh2:

I traded a ton of picks also... Gonna be a tough draft for sure.

JMP83
01-25-2013, 10:02 AM
Anyone know when it opens back up?

wolf82
01-25-2013, 11:13 AM
Anyone know when it opens back up?

March I believe

Fukudome
01-25-2013, 11:17 AM
I came in second :pity:

Bird Fan
01-25-2013, 11:45 AM
Yeah I've done keeper leagues and Fant Baseball for 6 years. I also did PSD Celtics NBA, Pats PSD Football for years.

Im in for first or second teams...very active player. let me know, thanks

Melo15
01-25-2013, 01:45 PM
I don't think you have a pick until the 5th or 6th round, lol! Good thing you won.

I think I have my 2nd rounder and then not another pick until the 9th :laugh2:



Definitely in again, and yes Melo, you are screwed. :laugh2:

I'm going to have the Astros real life roster :laugh2:

GrkGawdofWalkz
01-25-2013, 02:31 PM
So I guess finishing last means I have the first pick. Meh.

Fukudome
01-25-2013, 06:15 PM
I think I have my 2nd rounder and then not another pick until the 9th :laugh2:

Take the top 15 prospects.

Melo15
01-25-2013, 07:09 PM
Take the top 15 prospects.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OCAkRkAHTk

wolf82
01-28-2013, 08:40 AM
So I guess finishing last means I have the first pick. Meh.

Thats actually a good point.

How is the order of who picks first/last gonna go? I it random, or does it go in the rank you finshed the year prior?

Towelie
02-03-2013, 11:45 AM
We always random it, so don't see why we shouldn't this year. Plus I imagine someone might drop out from the league as well. However it does open this week people so get ready for the invites!

AI
02-03-2013, 11:59 AM
Yayz. :)

Towelie
02-03-2013, 01:49 PM
Anyone who drops out will have it's team given to someone else, and will get to pick the keepers.

wolf82
02-04-2013, 09:15 AM
Anyone who drops out will have it's team given to someone else, and will get to pick the keepers.

I'm def playing this year!

JMP83
02-04-2013, 05:42 PM
Can't wait to get back in there and start playing again.

I got some extra picks and I'm willing to deal 'em. Also have Tulo, Votto, Bumgarner I can include with the picks for the right player back as well.

penuch
02-05-2013, 02:43 AM
Can't wait to get back in there and start playing again.

I got some extra picks and I'm willing to deal 'em. Also have Tulo, Votto, Bumgarner I can include with the picks for the right player back as well.

You do realize you can only keep 2 players?

JMP83
02-05-2013, 09:53 AM
You do realize you can only keep 2 players?

Yup, which is why I'm open to dealin'.

wolf82
02-05-2013, 10:07 AM
Yup, which is why I'm open to dealin'.

What you want for Votto?

Bird Fan
02-05-2013, 11:46 AM
Man I would love to jump in. If anyone has a spot or 1st/ 2nd team is cool. Im in if a spot opens....

-Lavigne43-
02-05-2013, 01:43 PM
Can you even trade before the draft? I hope so since I don't know which 2 of Stanton, Machado, and Profar to keep.

Towelie
02-05-2013, 03:43 PM
Yeah, we should be able to trade before the draft. You can trade draft picks too.

AI
02-05-2013, 03:58 PM
Can you even trade before the draft? I hope so since I don't know which 2 of Stanton, Machado, and Profar to keep.

Give me Stanton, NAO!!!

wolf82
02-05-2013, 04:10 PM
yeah, we should be able to trade before the draft. You can trade draft picks too.

sweeeet! I'm willing to trade my 1st rd for a decent player

AI
02-05-2013, 06:02 PM
sweeeet! I'm willing to trade my 1st rd for a decent player

Take a look at my team, let's get it done sir.

wolf82
02-06-2013, 08:15 AM
AI which one is your team?

Towelie
02-06-2013, 09:07 AM
I'd be willing to trade anyone on my team really. Give me offers before the keeper deadline.

penuch
02-06-2013, 10:03 AM
I'd be willing to trade anyone on my team really. Give me offers before the keeper deadline.

Same here.

JMP83
02-06-2013, 10:35 AM
What you want for Votto?

Which team are you? I'll take a look.

Bumgarner's available for a non-top pick.

Would love to pair Tulo up with a pick to upgrade that keeper position. Can include good pick(s) for the right player back.

wolf82
02-06-2013, 10:53 AM
Which team are you? I'll take a look.

Bumgarner's available for a non-top pick.

Would love to pair Tulo up with a pick to upgrade that keeper position. Can include good pick(s) for the right player back.

I'm Chicken and Beer I'm willing to trade my 1st rounder also if your interested

AI
02-06-2013, 12:57 PM
AI which one is your team?

I think I'm the Lincredibles. Anybody on my team can be had.

-Lavigne43-
02-06-2013, 02:26 PM
Other than Giancarlo, Profar, and Machado, I have other young guys who will likely impact the 2013 season: Olt, Billy Hamilton, Bundy, Hultzen, Wheeler, and Rubby De La Rosa.

AI
02-06-2013, 02:58 PM
I want Stanton. Right nao!!!

-Lavigne43-
02-06-2013, 03:08 PM
Actually, I don't think I can trade Stanton. He requires a #1 pick to keep, and I would require a #1 pick to trade him. I believe I'm the only one who has multiple 1st round picks.

Also I just realized I had both Cy Young winners on my team, how awesome is that.

Towelie
02-06-2013, 04:18 PM
I might not actually keep anyone on my team hahahaha.

Fukudome
02-06-2013, 04:28 PM
Yeahhh, I'm keeping Rizzo <3

wolf82
02-06-2013, 04:43 PM
I dunno who to keep.

Towelie
02-06-2013, 04:51 PM
I think I value the picks more than the players I have so I might just throw it all back.

AI
02-06-2013, 05:43 PM
Kershaw, Strasburg and everone else is available. Give me picks or equal talent back.

-Lavigne43-
02-06-2013, 06:13 PM
Are we going to know where we are picking before we select our keepers? With so many teams there is a big difference between losing a pick in the beginning of the 1st round and the end of the first round.

Towelie
02-06-2013, 09:12 PM
I always random the draft weeks before, so yes everyone will know the draft order (Random) prior to picking keepers.

AI
02-06-2013, 09:16 PM
The LINcredibles
Round 1 - Clayton Kershaw
Round 2 - Matt Holliday
Round 3 - Stephen Strasburg
Round 4 - Alex Rodriguez
Round 5 - Matt Moore
Round 6 - Carlos Beltran
Round 7 - Jayson Werth
Round 8 - Nick Swisher
Round 9 - Joel Hanrahan
Round 10 - Dee Gordon
Round 11 - Doug Fister
Round 12 - Jonny Venters
Round 13 - Addison Reed
Round 14 - Grady Sizemore
Round 15 - Adam Dunn
Round 16 - Mark Buehrle
Round 17 - Greg Holland
Round 18 - Carlos Ruiz
Round 19 - Maicer Izturis
Round 20 - Brian Roberts
Round 21 - Wei-Yin Chen
Round 22 - Ramon Hernandez

Beltran was traded last year for Kelly Johnson and Michael Bourn. I also dropped some of those guys and now have Crawford, V-Mart, Middlebrooks, Lackey and others. I'll trade my top guys for a first and the middle tier guys for a good pick.

AI
02-06-2013, 09:20 PM
Also, how do keepers work again? If I drafted MacDime in the 5th round, then he counts as a 3rd?

Towelie
02-06-2013, 09:32 PM
Yes, and undrafted is ADP minus 2 rounds.

AI
02-06-2013, 10:22 PM
Yes, and undrafted is ADP minus 2 rounds.

What does ADP stand for? Actual draft pick?

So if WMB is a 10th rounder this year, he'd count as a 12th for me?

terriblemente69
02-06-2013, 10:23 PM
Terrible
1. (1) Miguel Cabrera
(Det - 1B,3B)
2. (36) Cole Hamels
(Phi - SP)
3. (37) Josh Hamilton
(LAA - OF)
4. (72) Asdrubal Cabrera
(Cle - SS)
5. (73) Rickie Weeks
(Mil - 2B)
6. (108) Mariano Rivera
(NYY - RP)
7. (109) Ricky Romero
(Tor - SP)
8. (144) Josť Valverde
(Det - RP)
9. (145) Martin Prado
(Ari - 2B,3B,SS,OF)
10. (180) Justin Masterson
(Cle - SP)
11. (181) Adam Lind
(Tor - 1B)
12. (216) Austin Jackson
(Det - OF)
13. (217) Geovany Soto
(Tex - C)
14. (252) Jason Bay
(Sea - OF)
15. (253) Ricky Nolasco
(Mia - SP)
16. (288) Francisco Liriano
(CWS - SP,RP)
17. (289) Scott Downs
(LAA - RP)
18. (324) Gordon Beckham
(CWS - 2B)
19. (325) Brennan Boesch
(Det - OF)
20. (360) Juan Carlos Oviedo
(TB - RP)
21. (361) Alfonso Soriano
(ChC - OF)
22. (396) Chris Davis
(Bal - 1B,3B,OF)

So if i choose to keep Chris Davis im going to lose my 20th pick??

Towelie
02-06-2013, 10:32 PM
Correct

Towelie
02-06-2013, 10:33 PM
double post

Towelie
02-06-2013, 10:34 PM
What does ADP stand for? Actual draft pick?

So if WMB is a 10th rounder this year, he'd count as a 12th for me?

Average Draft pick. If WMB wasn't drafted (I know I took him off WW and ****ed up when I dropped him) I don't think he was drafted so yeah he would be a 12th rounder if his ADP was 10th.

JMP83
02-06-2013, 11:19 PM
Average Draft pick. If WMB wasn't drafted (I know I took him off WW and ****ed up when I dropped him) I don't think he was drafted so yeah he would be a 12th rounder if his ADP was 10th.

Are we using Yahoo for ADP? Or Mock Draft Central?

WhyDuquette
02-06-2013, 11:25 PM
Keeping Chris Sale, Drafted in 12th round
going to wait to the draft order if i want to keep Pujols and lose my 1st round pick or not.

Towelie
02-06-2013, 11:52 PM
Yes you lose the 1st rounder

Towelie
02-06-2013, 11:52 PM
Are we using Yahoo for ADP? Or Mock Draft Central?

Yahoo as thats where we play

wolf82
02-07-2013, 08:51 AM
When you post the draft rankings..how long do we have to pick our keepers?

Towelie
02-07-2013, 09:17 AM
We will have up until 72 hours of draft time.

wolf82
02-07-2013, 10:24 AM
anyone wanna trade for my first rounder?

AI
02-07-2013, 10:33 AM
I do, check your PM's.

AI
02-07-2013, 12:07 PM
Strasburg and Kershaw will be traded for a first round pick.

Already have a deal in place for one, who wants the other?

wolf82
02-07-2013, 12:25 PM
Strasburg and Kershaw will be traded for a first round pick.

Already have a deal in place for one, who wants the other?

I thought we were gonna wait till we see what positions we have in the 1st round before we made a deal? Plus, I just remembered, Yahoo doesn't allow you to trade players for DP you need to trade player for player and dp for dp for an equal swap.

Also Towlie If we already selected our keepers before this trade goes through. Does that mean we can keep that third player?

-Lavigne43-
02-07-2013, 01:50 PM
Pretty sure it would be dumb to trade a first round pick for either, since both of them require a first round pick to keep.

AI
02-07-2013, 02:56 PM
I thought we were gonna wait till we see what positions we have in the 1st round before we made a deal? Plus, I just remembered, Yahoo doesn't allow you to trade players for DP you need to trade player for player and dp for dp for an equal swap.

Also Towlie If we already selected our keepers before this trade goes through. Does that mean we can keep that third player?

Yeah I was talking about our deal, it's on the table just have to wait to see where we pick. Also, what Lav said is true. We'll talk later to see what players/picks we can swap.

JMP83
02-07-2013, 03:16 PM
Pretty sure it would be dumb to trade a first round pick for either, since both of them require a first round pick to keep.

Sorry for all the questions, have never played in a keeper league with rotating draft slots.

But what would happen in this case? If you trade someone your 1st round pick just to pick up a player that would normally cost you a 1st round pick, would the person you traded your pick to just pick in your place still and you'd lose a 2nd round pick instead? Or are you only penalized one draft pick instead of two?

-Lavigne43-
02-07-2013, 08:19 PM
I haven't either. I'm pretty sure Towelie said somewhere that you have to have the pick available (or one higher) to keep a player. So, if you have no 1st pick, you can't keep a player that would cost a 1st pick. If you keep someone worth a 3rd pick and have no 3rd pick, you lose your 2nd pick.

It will probably suck for someone that they can't keep 2 of their first 3 picks. But it will keep the beginning of the draft interesting.

AI
02-07-2013, 08:56 PM
If we could keep players where they were drafted I'd probably keep Strasburg. Not bad for a 3rd rounder.

JMP83
02-08-2013, 12:05 AM
I haven't either. I'm pretty sure Towelie said somewhere that you have to have the pick available (or one higher) to keep a player. So, if you have no 1st pick, you can't keep a player that would cost a 1st pick. If you keep someone worth a 3rd pick and have no 3rd pick, you lose your 2nd pick.

It will probably suck for someone that they can't keep 2 of their first 3 picks. But it will keep the beginning of the draft interesting.

Ah, so you can't really give up your first round pick for a player you'd have to give up a 1st round pick then?

wolf82
02-08-2013, 09:13 AM
Ah, so you can't really give up your first round pick for a player you'd have to give up a 1st round pick then?

AI, I guess the deal is off. Cause i'm not gonna give up a 1 rd If I can't keep em.

Anyone know how you can check how many DP you have, and what rounds. I remember a few months ago looking at it, But, can't seem to find it anymore.

Bird Fan
02-08-2013, 10:32 AM
Anyone doing a second team. If first is full, thoughts on second fantasy league? Im in if anyone else is doing a second or starting a league.

Towelie
02-08-2013, 10:55 AM
It's live people! Check your emails!

AI
02-08-2013, 12:58 PM
Boats'n Hoes :cool:

Towelie
02-09-2013, 07:11 PM
Just missing 7 people.

rnoderator
avrpatsfan
Superdude
Sox Rox
Terrible
Grkgawdofwalkz
McNuttEverywhere

Towelie
02-10-2013, 11:42 AM
Did Superdude901 get banned? Or, is his name just different?

-Lavigne43-
02-10-2013, 12:57 PM
I think his name is just Superdude now.

ruckus16969
02-10-2013, 04:19 PM
Anyways I can get in??? I was in a few years ago

terriblemente69
02-10-2013, 04:44 PM
In, however i have some problems to draft on Friday's so if u can change the day of the draft i'll be very happy....

wolf82
02-10-2013, 04:45 PM
Quick question.

Would anyone give up their 1st rounder for Adrian Beltre?

Towelie
02-10-2013, 08:32 PM
No chance.

NYSPORTS98
02-10-2013, 11:16 PM
Would like to join (as long as it's not 200 different stat categories)

Head to head or roto?

Giants/Belichick/Sox fan

wolf82
02-11-2013, 12:08 AM
No chance.

Hey Towelie,

I left you a PM can you read it and get back to me?

Fukudome
02-11-2013, 04:46 AM
I'm in.

I'm going to have Rizzo for awhile :laugh2:

AI
02-11-2013, 02:39 PM
Can we trade already?

GrkGawdofWalkz
02-11-2013, 02:49 PM
Some guys available:
Jay Bruce, CC Sabathia, Brett Lawrie, and others.

I am undecided on keeping two of the following: Buster Posey, Bryce Harper, Jason Heyward

AI
02-11-2013, 03:08 PM
Everybody on my team is available.

wolf82
02-11-2013, 03:37 PM
Same here anyone on my team is available

AI
02-11-2013, 04:12 PM
Wolf you still want Kershaw or Stras? If so, send me your draft recap via PM.

wolf82
02-11-2013, 04:14 PM
Wolf you still want Kershaw or Stras? If so, send me your draft recap via PM. I won't be able to keep em if I give up my 1st rounder.

AI
02-11-2013, 04:39 PM
I'd be willing to do a player for player trade if I see somebody I like on your team.

terriblemente69
02-11-2013, 08:06 PM
Im going to keep Davis and maybe Jackson but everybody is available...

terriblemente69
02-11-2013, 08:16 PM
Just a question, can i keep Cabrera who was my 1st pick last year and if i choose to keep him what it will cost to me???

AI
02-11-2013, 09:43 PM
Your first.

wolf82
02-11-2013, 09:55 PM
Ai who do you like on my team?

AI
02-11-2013, 10:33 PM
I don't know which team is yours which is why I asked you to send me ypur draft recap via PM. I'd be willing to deal Kershaw or Strasburg for a player if you have someone I'd like to keep.

penuch
02-11-2013, 11:42 PM
Just a question, can i keep Cabrera who was my 1st pick last year and if i choose to keep him what it will cost to me???

It will cost you your 1st rd pick. If you don't have a 1st rd pick you can't keep him.

AI
02-12-2013, 03:27 AM
If I keep Kershaw I lose my first, what if I want to keep Strasburg as well? I'd lose my second even though he'll probably be ranked as a first rounder?

wolf82
02-12-2013, 08:52 AM
If I keep Kershaw I lose my first, what if I want to keep Strasburg as well? I'd lose my second even though he'll probably be ranked as a first rounder?

I was under the impression if you don't have the pick to give up you can't keep em. Thats why i didn't want to give up my 1st because if I did i wouldn't be able to keep the guy i traded for.

Towelie
02-12-2013, 10:40 AM
If you don't have a 1st round pick you can't keep a first rounder.

Bird Fan
02-12-2013, 11:12 AM
Is there a second league? I'll fill a spot if someone drops out.

wolf82
02-12-2013, 11:25 AM
Hey AI check you PM

penuch
02-12-2013, 09:54 PM
If I keep Kershaw I lose my first, what if I want to keep Strasburg as well? I'd lose my second even though he'll probably be ranked as a first rounder?

You wouldn't be able to keep both. In order to keep a player you must have their pick available.

JMP83
02-13-2013, 11:03 AM
You wouldn't be able to keep both. In order to keep a player you must have their pick available.

I think it's only if you trade away your pick. If you still have your picks, you'd just lose your next round's pick I believe.

wolf82
02-13-2013, 12:04 PM
I think it's only if you trade away your pick. If you still have your picks, you'd just lose your next round's pick I believe.


If you don't have a 1st round pick you can't keep a first rounder.

No, he can't keep both 1st rounders

JMP83
02-13-2013, 02:13 PM
No, he can't keep both 1st rounders

Hmm, so that means you can only keep one player from your Round 1-3 picks? That doesn't make much sense to me.

wolf82
02-13-2013, 04:42 PM
They said that who ever you keep, you will give up the DP two rounds higher. For instance, if you wanted to keep a player you drafted in the 5th rd you have to give up your 3rd rounder.

AI
02-13-2013, 08:40 PM
Hmm, so that means you can only keep one player from your Round 1-3 picks? That doesn't make much sense to me.

I agree. I can't keep Strasburg.

Towelie
02-13-2013, 09:41 PM
Hmm, so that means you can only keep one player from your Round 1-3 picks? That doesn't make much sense to me.

The reason for this is because the draft is not going to get killed. The Keepers need to be worth it, keeping anyone from the 1-3 rounds to me isn't going to be worth it.

terriblemente69
02-13-2013, 10:58 PM
So if i want to keep my 3rd round i loss my 1st but if instead of it i want to keep my 1st round i have to give up only my 1st too???

keep my 3rd = give up only my 1st
keep my 2nd = give up only my 1st
keep my 1st= give up only my 1st
???

JMP83
02-13-2013, 11:23 PM
The reason for this is because the draft is not going to get killed. The Keepers need to be worth it, keeping anyone from the 1-3 rounds to me isn't going to be worth it.

I really wish I had known this earlier. I feel like I read differently earlier in the offseason. I had traded for Tulowitzki at the trade deadline because I thought I could keep both him and Votto.

wolf82
02-13-2013, 11:46 PM
It keeps the draft interesting. The draft would suck if the number 1 pick ended up being a player that is actually a 3rd rounder.

Towelie
02-14-2013, 09:38 AM
Whats the point of keeper costs? For those who said "They didn't know" the keeper costs have always been the same. You can't give up a pick you don't have anymore, otherwise you would be bypassing the keeper costs. It doesn't make sense.

wolf82
02-14-2013, 10:45 AM
Whats the point of keeper costs? For those who said "They didn't know" the keeper costs have always been the same. You can't give up a pick you don't have anymore, otherwise you would be bypassing the keeper costs. It doesn't make sense.

i like the way it is.

AI
02-14-2013, 11:05 AM
Who wants Strasburg?

penuch
02-14-2013, 11:43 AM
Who wants Strasburg?

What are you asking?

AI
02-14-2013, 11:59 AM
Wanted a first but you wouldn't be able to keep him.

I'll take a player for player trade or an early 2nd.

penuch
02-14-2013, 12:05 PM
Lavigne has 17 picks in the 1st 10 rds and 4 in the 1st 2rds..... If he doesn't have the best draft then Ill be shocked.

penuch
02-14-2013, 12:12 PM
Question are the divisions weighted a bit unfairly? just looking at the old standing from the past couple years, Division 1 seems to have a lot of the recent top 5 finishers in comparison to division 2.

penuch
02-14-2013, 12:14 PM
Wanted a first but you wouldn't be able to keep him.

I'll take a player for player trade or an early 2nd.

Damn, I want him, but I actually wouldn't be able to keep him. I thought he was drafted outside the top 3 for some reason.

AI
02-14-2013, 12:26 PM
Player for player trade and you'd be able to keep him.

penuch
02-14-2013, 12:40 PM
Player for player trade and you'd be able to keep him.

Yeah Im an idiot I don't know what I was thinking.

Take a look at my team and see if anything interest you.

GrkGawdofWalkz
02-14-2013, 06:38 PM
Looking to move Jason Heyward if anyone is interested. I now have my two set keepers otherwise.

AI
02-14-2013, 06:56 PM
Towelie when will you be doing the draft order and allowing trades?

terriblemente69
02-14-2013, 06:59 PM
Whats the point of keeper costs? For those who said "They didn't know" the keeper costs have always been the same. You can't give up a pick you don't have anymore, otherwise you would be bypassing the keeper costs. It doesn't make sense.

Im asking because i've never played with "keeper rules" before this year and i just wanted to know if i want to keep Cabrera i only lost my 1st pick this year draft because if i have the 18th pick im going to keep a player who would have been clearly out of my reach if i wouldn't choose to keep him, that's why im asking....

Towelie
02-15-2013, 08:22 AM
Towelie when will you be doing the draft order and allowing trades?

Draft order once everyone is in, and trades right after that. If you PM me the trades I will apply them right away.

Towelie
02-15-2013, 08:25 AM
Looks like we will need 3 new people. Rukus is back in as he's been in years before. I'm gonna take 3 guys I think will be active as they post here enough.

wolf82
02-15-2013, 08:28 AM
Looks like we will need 3 new people. Rukus is back in as he's been in years before. I'm gonna take 3 guys I think will be active as they post here enough.

I'm def playing. Anyone wanna trade? I wanna get a SP.

Pittz
02-15-2013, 02:11 PM
I'll win.

AI
02-15-2013, 02:46 PM
Towelie you can go ahead and trade Strasburg for Posey. Grk and I agreed to it.

penuch
02-16-2013, 02:35 AM
Looking to move Jason Heyward if anyone is interested. I now have my two set keepers otherwise.

What is heywards draft cost?

avrpatsfan
02-16-2013, 04:00 AM
nvm

Towelie
02-17-2013, 12:00 AM
There were 18 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

The Van Gundy's
Towelie's Sox
Theo's Tarzier's
Green Monster
Melo15
Peaches En Cream
Wild Blue Yonder
avrpats
RUCKU$1699
Chicken and Beer
lavigne43's
AI's
Penuch
ZHawk1123
last team
Corey
Grkgawdofwalkz
Terrible
Timestamp: 2013-02-17 03:59:12 UTC

Draft Order

Towelie
02-17-2013, 12:27 AM
Towelie you can go ahead and trade Strasburg for Posey. Grk and I agreed to it.

Done

Pittz
02-17-2013, 02:28 AM
I'll win.


There were 18 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

The Van Gundy's
Towelie's Sox
Theo's Tarzier's
Green Monster
Melo15
Peaches En Cream
Wild Blue Yonder
avrpats
RUCKU$1699
Chicken and Beer
lavigne43's
AI's
Penuch
ZHawk1123
last team
Corey
Grkgawdofwalkz
Terrible
Timestamp: 2013-02-17 03:59:12 UTC

Draft Order

Awkward, am I last team?

ManRam
02-17-2013, 12:42 PM
FIRST PICK *****ES!

Suck it BRANDON Pittz.

AI
02-17-2013, 12:43 PM
Hopefully he forgot you so draft order has to be redone.

GrkGawdofWalkz
02-17-2013, 01:27 PM
Nvm.

-Lavigne43-
02-17-2013, 02:04 PM
Awkward, am I last team?

Last team is the team that hasn't been filled yet. He either forgot to email you, doesn't like you, or you didn't read the email he sent you and signed up.


FIRST PICK *****ES!

Suck it BRANDON Pittz.

First pick isn't all that great in this. I don't know what team you took over, but the obvious top 10ish are likely going to be keepers on their teams, and you don't pick again until 36.

ManRam
02-17-2013, 02:10 PM
No. I know. I always hate having the first pick. Just playing around with Pittzypoo :laugh:

I hope we have to re-do it.

-Lavigne43-
02-17-2013, 02:40 PM
Oh. Well there's no reason to re-do it. Last team is either Pittz or whoever replaces Pittz.

Melo15
02-17-2013, 03:03 PM
Just realized I took Carlos Zambrano 6 picks before R.A. Dickey got drafted last year :laugh:

Towelie
02-17-2013, 03:22 PM
Awkward, am I last team?

Did you not already join the league? If not you must gotta join it based on the email hahaha. But yeah you will be the last team. Why didn't you speak up when I said email invites sent gotta join? lol. So I might have given someone else your team, but I'll make sure to transfer it back. This is what happens when people don't use forum names in the League, I don't know who is who. Hopefully you were rnoderator last year.

Towelie
02-17-2013, 03:27 PM
nvm

Would you sign up already or check your PM's!

ruckus16969
02-17-2013, 03:30 PM
How can I tell if I got draft picks from last year

ruckus16969
02-17-2013, 03:35 PM
How do u find out that for my team. I took over super dude.

Im thinking about selling Verlander hit me up

-Lavigne43-
02-17-2013, 04:01 PM
Just realized I took Carlos Zambrano 6 picks before R.A. Dickey got drafted last year :laugh:

lol, he was so underrated until this season, always putting up a lot of innings with a good era. I always seem to draft pitching so well, and am hit and miss with hitters. That's huge for you though, you can keep him with what, your 15th round pick? The one everyone should regret is Mike Trout. I picked Gaby Sanchez with the pick right before him :facepalm:

-Lavigne43-
02-17-2013, 04:02 PM
How do u find out that for my team. I took over super dude.

Im thinking about selling Verlander hit me up

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/18455/showtradedpicks

Melo15
02-17-2013, 04:03 PM
lol, he was so underrated until this season, always putting up a lot of innings with a good era. I always seem to draft pitching so well, and am hit and miss with hitters. That's huge for you though, you can keep him with what, your 15th round pick? The one everyone should regret is Mike Trout. I picked Gaby Sanchez with the pick right before him :facepalm:

Yup, I'm keeping him and Sergio Romo. I don't have the picks to keep any of my top hitters :laugh2:

Judging by the draft order though you're in for an awesome first few rounds.

ruckus16969
02-17-2013, 07:13 PM
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/18455/showtradedpicks

Thanx bro

ruckus16969
02-17-2013, 07:14 PM
Can I trade someone just for a draft pic?

wolf82
02-17-2013, 10:25 PM
Will there be a list of players who are not listed as keepers? It would be kinda helpful to see what players are not being kept to prepare for the draft.

penuch
02-18-2013, 06:44 AM
lol, he was so underrated until this season, always putting up a lot of innings with a good era. I always seem to draft pitching so well, and am hit and miss with hitters. That's huge for you though, you can keep him with what, your 15th round pick? The one everyone should regret is Mike Trout. I picked Gaby Sanchez with the pick right before him :facepalm:

Once I knew we were going keepers, he was one of the top guys in my mind. Was shocked he was still there in the 12th. Best part was I traded him and then he got dropped like a week later and I got him right back haha.

ManRam
02-18-2013, 11:17 AM
Can someone just clarify these for me, since I'm new to keeper leagues and don't want to royally mess up. I think they're obvious questions, just wanna make sure though.

Since I have the first overall pick, it's probably not wise for me to keep anyone drafted in rounds 1-3 last year, including Adrian and Zobrist since that would cost me the #1 overall pick? Correct?

If I keep a player that went undrafted last year, do I just lose my second-to-last pick? If I want to keep 2 undrafted players (yes, my team sucks that much) which two picks would I lose? I have no picks traded away currently.

While we're at it, if anyone wants anyone on my team let me know here and we'll find a way to talk about it (can't VM/PM). I'm not keeping any of my best players in all likelihood. I'm the Van Gundy's.

JMP83
02-18-2013, 11:37 AM
Can someone just clarify these for me, since I'm new to keeper leagues and don't want to royally mess up. I think they're obvious questions, just wanna make sure though.

Since I have the first overall pick, it's probably not wise for me to keep anyone drafted in rounds 1-3 last year, including Adrian and Zobrist since that would cost me the #1 overall pick? Correct?

If I keep a player that went undrafted last year, do I just lose my second-to-last pick? If I want to keep 2 undrafted players (yes, my team sucks that much) which two picks would I lose? I have no picks traded away currently.

While we're at it, if anyone wants anyone on my team let me know here and we'll find a way to talk about it (can't VM/PM). I'm not keeping any of my best players in all likelihood. I'm the Van Gundy's.

If you want to keep an undrafted player you'll have to give up a pick correlating to their Average Draft Position at the time of our draft plus moving up two rounds like normal keepers.

Do you know which team you took over?

ManRam
02-18-2013, 11:44 AM
If you want to keep an undrafted player you'll have to give up a pick correlating to their Average Draft Position at the time of our draft plus moving up two rounds like normal keepers.

Do you know which team you took over?

OK. That makes sense. But for players who WERE drafted last year, the draft pick compensation is based on the round they were drafted in last year, correct?

Not sure why I'm not getting this. Monday mornings I guess...

I took over for Sox Rox. I'm the Van Gundy's now.

JMP83
02-18-2013, 02:15 PM
OK. That makes sense. But for players who WERE drafted last year, the draft pick compensation is based on the round they were drafted in last year, correct?

Not sure why I'm not getting this. Monday mornings I guess...

I took over for Sox Rox. I'm the Van Gundy's now.

Right, whatever round they were drafted last year plus two Rounds.

Towelie
02-18-2013, 07:39 PM
Can someone just clarify these for me, since I'm new to keeper leagues and don't want to royally mess up. I think they're obvious questions, just wanna make sure though.

Since I have the first overall pick, it's probably not wise for me to keep anyone drafted in rounds 1-3 last year, including Adrian and Zobrist since that would cost me the #1 overall pick? Correct?

If I keep a player that went undrafted last year, do I just lose my second-to-last pick? If I want to keep 2 undrafted players (yes, my team sucks that much) which two picks would I lose? I have no picks traded away currently.

While we're at it, if anyone wants anyone on my team let me know here and we'll find a way to talk about it (can't VM/PM). I'm not keeping any of my best players in all likelihood. I'm the Van Gundy's.

If undrafted you lose the ADP minus two rounds. So If ADP is round 15 it would cost you 17th round.

Towelie
02-18-2013, 07:39 PM
Pittz join the league!!!!!!

wolf82
02-19-2013, 10:59 AM
anyone wanna trade? My team is chicken and beer

Fukudome
02-19-2013, 01:47 PM
Suck it, 3rd pick.

ruckus16969
02-19-2013, 02:33 PM
Can someone just clarify these for me, since I'm new to keeper leagues and don't want to royally mess up. I think they're obvious questions, just wanna make sure though.

Since I have the first overall pick, it's probably not wise for me to keep anyone drafted in rounds 1-3 last year, including Adrian and Zobrist since that would cost me the #1 overall pick? Correct?

If I keep a player that went undrafted last year, do I just lose my second-to-last pick? If I want to keep 2 undrafted players (yes, my team sucks that much) which two picks would I lose? I have no picks traded away currently.

While we're at it, if anyone wants anyone on my team let me know here and we'll find a way to talk about it (can't VM/PM). I'm not keeping any of my best players in all likelihood. I'm the Van Gundy's.


How can u tell they werent drafted or when they where drafted

-Lavigne43-
02-19-2013, 02:44 PM
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/mlb/2012/3367/draftresults

AI
02-19-2013, 03:45 PM
Suck it, 3rd pick.

Suck it some more

Melo15
02-19-2013, 06:32 PM
Everybody suck everybody.

Towelie
02-19-2013, 09:38 PM
What do I have to do to get Pittz and AVRPats to join the league? I'd like to actually get a draft date settled, and keeper dates settled.

wolf82
02-19-2013, 10:45 PM
What do I have to do to get Pittz and AVRPats to join the league? I'd like to actually get a draft date settled, and keeper dates settled.


Make a 3 day mandate then get two new peeps

penuch
02-19-2013, 11:23 PM
What do I have to do to get Pittz and AVRPats to join the league? I'd like to actually get a draft date settled, and keeper dates settled.

Sounds like they'll be very active haha

ruckus16969
02-20-2013, 12:48 PM
If I keep a 22nd rounder I only loose my 20th pick?

AI
02-20-2013, 01:11 PM
Who wants Posey? Give me a good player and pick upgrades.

penuch
02-20-2013, 02:00 PM
If I keep a 22nd rounder I only loose my 20th pick?

Correct

ruckus16969
02-20-2013, 04:40 PM
Im keeping Altuve and Pagan. I did it on the league page.

ruckus16969
02-20-2013, 04:54 PM
anyone wanna trade? My team is chicken and beer

I want Ross Lohse and Hughes. You can have any 3 guys on my team

wolf82
02-21-2013, 08:31 AM
I want Ross Lohse and Hughes. You can have any 3 guys on my team

what was your last years teams name /

GrkGawdofWalkz
02-21-2013, 12:36 PM
5. (79) Jason Heyward (Atl - OF) - Available for pick in the round based on ADP.

penuch
02-21-2013, 04:15 PM
I want Ross Lohse and Hughes. You can have any 3 guys on my team

Why would he trade for 3 people? you can only keep two.

Fukudome
02-21-2013, 05:09 PM
Keeping Rizzo and Beltran...wooohoooo.

AI
02-21-2013, 06:35 PM
Keeping Kershaw and Posey.

Anybody else on my team is available for picks.

Werth, Bourn, Middlebrooks, Lackey, Crawford, V-Mart.

penuch
02-21-2013, 07:17 PM
Keeping trout can't decided on my other

GrkGawdofWalkz
02-21-2013, 07:23 PM
Keeping Strasburg and Harper.

Available:
CC Sabathia, Jay Bruce, Jason Heyward. About all that's worth keeping.

ruckus16969
02-21-2013, 11:52 PM
what was your last years teams name /

Superdude. But ill ill give ya verlander for any 2

ruckus16969
02-21-2013, 11:53 PM
What round pick ya want for midlebrookes?

ZHawk1123
02-22-2013, 09:21 AM
I'm keeping Cespedes and Matt Harvey

Looking to trade Fielder, Carlos Gonzalez, Yadier Molina or Hellickson for picks.

wolf82
02-22-2013, 11:22 AM
Superdude. But ill ill give ya verlander for any 2

ok ruckus you want lohse, but i don't have any other of the guys can you take a look at my final roster of who you want?

ruckus16969
02-22-2013, 09:31 PM
Send me an offer for cody ross and lohse

wolf82
02-22-2013, 11:53 PM
I don't have Cody Ross the only guy I have is lohse. Take a look at my final roster for anyone else you want

JMP83
02-23-2013, 05:14 PM
Tulo's available for a not top round pick.

AI
02-23-2013, 05:18 PM
I'm keeping Cespedes and Matt Harvey

Looking to trade Fielder, Carlos Gonzalez, Yadier Molina or Hellickson for picks.

What round was Fielder drafted in?

ruckus16969
02-23-2013, 08:44 PM
ok ruckus you want lohse, but i don't have any other of the guys can you take a look at my final roster of who you want?

How bout Lohse and ur 3rd round pick for Verlander

ruckus16969
02-23-2013, 10:42 PM
what round was fielder drafted in?

1st

Towelie
02-24-2013, 01:03 AM
Pittz and AVR will have until Wednesday until they give up the team.

ruckus16969
02-24-2013, 01:25 AM
I run a league and I need a few more managers if anyones interested get me ur email

wolf82
02-24-2013, 12:56 PM
I run a league and I need a few more managers if anyones interested get me ur email

I'll join email me at hawk3851@yahoo.com

ruckus16969
02-24-2013, 10:08 PM
I'll join email me at hawk3851@yahoo.com

Sent ya the invite my man

wolf82
02-24-2013, 10:17 PM
Sent ya the invite my man

Joined.

AI
02-24-2013, 11:29 PM
When's the draft for this thing?

Towelie
02-25-2013, 12:18 AM
The current date won't be known until I get 18 people in this thing. I set the deadline to this wednesday. I've sent PM's and replied to threads and neither has joined.

AI
02-25-2013, 12:45 AM
OK, the only day I won't be able to do drafts at all from now on are Sundays. Any other day is fine.

GrkGawdofWalkz
02-25-2013, 10:29 AM
The only day that I'm not good on is Friday unless it's close to 11PM

Fukudome
02-25-2013, 10:44 AM
I'm thinking a Wednesday. Or a Monday.

Melo15
02-25-2013, 12:26 PM
I'm thinking a Wednesday. Or a Monday.

Shut up *****.

Fukudome
02-25-2013, 12:44 PM
Yes, sir. Right away, sir.

AI
02-25-2013, 04:09 PM
Don't talk to Fuku like that ever again or I will rip your face off. Understood?

Melo15
02-25-2013, 05:10 PM
Silly AI, you know I don't speak spanish.

wolf82
02-25-2013, 11:11 PM
Hey Ruck did you get my PM?

wolf82
02-26-2013, 08:34 AM
Hey Towelie,

Can you switch Verlander for Lohse, and my 4th round pick? Ruck and I have agreed to this trade.

ZHawk1123
02-26-2013, 09:18 AM
I'd like to reiterate that Carlos Gonzalez, Prince Fielder, Yadier Molina, Aramis Ramirez, and Jeremy Hellickson can all be had for draft picks.

I need draft picks.

Towelie
02-26-2013, 08:35 PM
Hey Towelie,

Can you switch Verlander for Lohse, and my 4th round pick? Ruck and I have agreed to this trade.

You both must trade a pic. Can't have a extra pick hanging out.

ruckus16969
02-26-2013, 11:34 PM
I'd like to reiterate that Carlos Gonzalez, Prince Fielder, Yadier Molina, Aramis Ramirez, and Jeremy Hellickson can all be had for draft picks.

I need draft picks.

I cant have 2 forth rounders?

Towelie
02-26-2013, 11:43 PM
No you can't get a extra 4th rounder because it would give you 1 more draft pick and one more person on your roster than possible.

wolf82
02-27-2013, 12:02 AM
Hey Ruck,

We need to trade draft picks to make it even. Want to include your 6th rounder?

Also, we only have three teams for your other fantasy league. Is anyone else joining?

Towelie
02-27-2013, 08:08 AM
I've sent the invites. Bogeyman got one because he's asked me for years to be in. The last one is also being sent out so we will see

ruckus16969
02-27-2013, 02:22 PM
How bout my 22nd

ruckus16969
02-27-2013, 02:24 PM
Or actually keep Lohse