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FOBolous
12-17-2012, 11:01 PM
playing next Harden, on a per-36-minute basis, Lin has averaged 10.7 points, 6.5 assists and 4.3 rebounds with a ghastly 46.5 true shooting percentage (TS%) to go along with a 12.1 player efficiency rating...according to the NBA.com's StatsCube tool.

But in 106 minutes Lin played when Harden hits the bench: 19.7 points, 7.5 assists, 5.1 rebounds with an above-average 55.4 TS% and a 17.7 PER.

With that in mind...Lin's per-36 minute stat line in New York last season was 19.6 points, 8.3 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 55.2 TS%, and a 19.9 PER.

so Lin's stats without Harden this year is identical to Lin's stats in NYC last year. what do yall think about this?

JasonJohnHorn
12-17-2012, 11:09 PM
You'd think his numbers outside of scoring would go up with Harden on the court. Like he'd get more assists and have better looks? Curious. I guess it's time to trade Harden then. ;-)

knicksfan42
12-17-2012, 11:09 PM
playing next Harden, on a per-36-minute basis, Lin has averaged 10.7 points, 6.5 assists and 4.3 rebounds with a ghastly 46.5 true shooting percentage (TS%) to go along with a 12.1 player efficiency rating...according to the NBA.com's StatsCube tool.

But in 106 minutes Lin played when Harden hits the bench: 19.7 points, 7.5 assists, 5.1 rebounds with an above-average 55.4 TS% and a 17.7 PER.

With that in mind...Lin's per-36 minute stat line in New York last season was 19.6 points, 8.3 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 55.2 TS%, and a 19.9 PER.

so Lin's stats without Harden this year is identical to Lin's stats in NYC last year. what do yall think about this?



106 minutes is not even in the stratosphere of a sample size large enough to be able to cite as proof of anything.


I do agree though that he looks better without Harden. There was that 38 point game he had without Harden this season.


Jeremy is best when he's the one primarily handling the ball.

Ebbs
12-17-2012, 11:10 PM
It makes sense it was a major concern when they united. They're both ball dominant guards. Maybe move Lin to the bench have him be a 6th man.

Blitzace137
12-17-2012, 11:14 PM
106 minutes is not even in the stratosphere of a sample size large enough to be able to cite as proof of anything.


I do agree though that he looks better without Harden. There was that 38 point game he had without Harden this season.


Jeremy is best when he's the one primarily handling the ball.

This, I think he would have been more effective in NY then he is in Houston because he would be the primary handler/playmaker

Blitzace137
12-17-2012, 11:15 PM
It makes sense it was a major concern when they united. They're both ball dominant guards. Maybe move Lin to the bench have him be a 6th man.

This is what I was thinking have him play the Harden role like in OKC

eternal slumber
12-17-2012, 11:18 PM
i would rather see them work things out by playing together. we got a nice preview how good they can be playing together and having turns in running the team's offense.

they'll develop that chemistry in time.

tripleplay2007
12-17-2012, 11:35 PM
Jeremy Lin sucks. He's racist.

IndyRealist
12-17-2012, 11:36 PM
Too much of that time was from one great game.

YashBoone
12-17-2012, 11:46 PM
I wonder if the same can be said for every second option in the league?

nytunnelvision
12-18-2012, 12:07 AM
Jeremy Lin sucks. He's racist.

Indeed.

Chronz
12-18-2012, 02:04 AM
Yea its been mentioned before, I think Houston is desperately trying to get their chemistry on track because we both know that Morey knows of these numbers. Willing to sacrifice wins in hope that their backcourt of the future learns to play together, similar thing going on in GS with Curry and Klay.

rocketfuel
12-18-2012, 03:44 AM
Well, they had balanced scoring against the Knicks. Lin had 22 and 8 and Harden 28.

heyman321
12-18-2012, 03:45 AM
#Linsanity #FeartheBeard

FOXHOUND
12-18-2012, 03:51 AM
Lin needs to further develop as a PG first, then he and Harden can really start to thrive together. A big problem Lin has offensively is his game is completely reliant on driving and attacking the rim. The rest of his game, the passing, the shooting, all plays off of that and how the defense plays him after he gashes them a few times.

This is much like Harden, only Harden is way better at it. What we have is a similar situation to what happens in Miami with LeBron and Wade, only with players on a much smaller scale. The 6th Man idea is an interesting solution, but then how do you justify that? How do you justify benching Lin, who was signed as their marquee free agent and as their PG of the future, for Toney Douglas?

If Lin and Harden can't figure out how to make each other as effective as they can while on the court together then it's never going to work there. Might as well let them learn on the job. It's an extremely young team, and they're not exactly playing for a title this year.

AWC713
12-18-2012, 03:56 AM
As a rockets fan, I'm one of his biggest critics. But the sample size is too small. It's been a fourth of a season. They're both young--they'll learn how to play together. They looked fine tonight, Lin with 22 and 8 assists, harden with 28 and 10 reb.

I think a big reason the two will succeed is because both are unselfish players. Neither cares who scores, whether its one of them, chandler parsons, asik, Marcus Morris, Patterson...it just doesn't matter...

ILLUSIONIST^248
12-18-2012, 04:00 AM
106 minutes? Come on man .

dee279
12-18-2012, 05:21 AM
106 minutes? I can see if it was a 107 minutes but 106 just is too short.