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B'sCeltsPatsSox
12-15-2012, 01:46 PM
Saturday, December 15th


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Location: Phillips Arena
Time: 7:00 PM ET



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Location: Time Warner Cable Arena
Time: 7:30 PM ET



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Location: Madison Square Garden
Time: 7:30 PM ET




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Location: AmericanAirlines Arena
Time: 7:30 PM ET



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Location: The Palace of Auburn Hills
Time: 7:30 PM ET



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Location: United Center
Time: 8:00 PM ET



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Location: Target Center
Time: 8:00 PM ET



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Location: BMO Harris Bradley Arena
Time: 8:30 PM ET



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Location: AT&T Center
Time: 8:30 PM ET
TV: NBA TV


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Location: EnergySolutions Arena
Time: 9:00 PM ET

shep33
12-15-2012, 02:05 PM
Lot of good games

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-15-2012, 02:49 PM
Zee return of zee gratest Rubio!!!!!

Chavacano
12-15-2012, 03:13 PM
Warriors @ Hawks
Wizards @ Heat
Magic @ Cats
Cavs @ Knicks
Pacers @ Pistons
Nets @ Bulls
Mavs @ Wolves
Clippers @ Bucks
Celtics @ Spurs
Grizzlies @ Jazz

jp611
12-15-2012, 03:52 PM
Bulls should beat NJ fairly easily tonight

Ebbs
12-15-2012, 03:55 PM
Warriors @ Hawks
Wizards @ Heat
Magic @ Cats
Cavs @ Knicks
Pacers @ Pistons
Nets @ Bulls
Mavs @ Wolves
Clippers @ Bucks
Celtics @ Spurs
Grizzlies @ Jazz

heyman321
12-15-2012, 04:58 PM
Dang, Rubio is back *****es! I hope he kills it, one of my favourite players.

chicagocubsfan
12-15-2012, 05:38 PM
Bulls with the win tonight

Baller1
12-15-2012, 06:00 PM
Good to see Rubio back, hopefully Wolves kick ***.

shep33
12-15-2012, 08:13 PM
Wizards vs. Heat might get ugly for Washington. Payback game

TeamSeattle
12-15-2012, 08:29 PM
Bulls with the win tonight

Yep Bulls will win and an awesome new One piece to watch tonight. :D

Ebbs
12-15-2012, 08:42 PM
Wizards vs. Heat might get ugly for Washington. Payback game

You'd hope so.

shep33
12-15-2012, 08:45 PM
You'd hope so.

Cartier Martin goes off. I wish I had that first name

shep33
12-15-2012, 09:04 PM
Josh Smith is 1-10

shep33
12-15-2012, 09:07 PM
David Lee should be an all-star if he keeps this up

iDefend10
12-15-2012, 09:23 PM
Sick block by little nate!

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 09:37 PM
Wow is Josh Smith having a terrible game or what..

1/12? Really?

Sota4Ever
12-15-2012, 09:40 PM
Ricky Rubio..

Im_in_Mia_bish
12-15-2012, 09:41 PM
Oh My Wade :drool:

shep33
12-15-2012, 09:42 PM
Dubs are for real. Josh Smith playing rancid right now.

kdspurman
12-15-2012, 09:45 PM
Kg and Duncan getting into it 2 mins in.

NBA_Starter
12-15-2012, 09:56 PM
Kemba is dealin!

heyman321
12-15-2012, 09:57 PM
God I hate Derek Fisher so much he's such a scumbag

Andrew32
12-15-2012, 10:06 PM
Wade is having another great game.

13pts on 5-7 shooting with 4ast in 22mp.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 10:12 PM
These refs have no idea what theyre doing in this Bulls Nets game.

Just stranges calls for both teams, missed fouls, nobody in position to see who it went off of? Get it together.

Mr. Baller
12-15-2012, 10:20 PM
LeBron has a 14 point 3rd quarter to make it 26 games in a row with 20 points or more

rocket
12-15-2012, 10:21 PM
Andre Drum is going to be a superstar. 7 points 9 rebounds 2 blocks in 18 mins. In a 30 second span he just got a sick put back dunk then took a charge and then blocked a 3 point shot after sprinting from the free throw line.

rocket
12-15-2012, 10:22 PM
OMG Drum is ****ing killing it

YoungOne
12-15-2012, 10:23 PM
Andre Drum is going to be a superstar. 7 points 9 rebounds 2 blocks in 18 mins. In a 30 second span he just got a sick put back dunk then took a charge and then blocked a 3 point shot after sprinting from the free throw line.

:eyebrow:

NBA_Starter
12-15-2012, 10:24 PM
Nelson is in foul trouble now

kdspurman
12-15-2012, 10:25 PM
Spurs have been without Kawhi Leonard, and Stephen Jackson for more than a month (with a pretty brutal schedule) and now Manu is out with a quad contusion.

:sigh:

rocket
12-15-2012, 10:26 PM
:eyebrow:

Have you been watching him at all durning the season? No. Are you watching the game right now? No. Well I can't expect you to watch the Pistons but holy crap he is a freaking BEAST. Just blocked the **** out of Hansbrough when he went for the dunk.

Mr. Baller
12-15-2012, 10:32 PM
J-kidd has taken 12 3's so far against the cavs :speechless:

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 10:36 PM
Block that gets stuck on the side of the rim by Wallace, hilarious.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 10:37 PM
Another excellent block by Wallace, god I love this guy.

NYMetros
12-15-2012, 10:39 PM
Kyrie is putting on a SHOW in the Garden tonight

Theyhateme459
12-15-2012, 10:41 PM
BOBCATS!! Yesss Sir

kylem4711
12-15-2012, 10:42 PM
clipps are killin it so far.

Theyhateme459
12-15-2012, 10:48 PM
I really dislike JJ Reddick...ugh

Cracka2HI!
12-15-2012, 10:49 PM
DeAndre, Blake and Bledsoe putting on a show! Future is bright!! Barnes having a great game as well. He is turning into a huge steal!

Theyhateme459
12-15-2012, 10:51 PM
Good game for Kyrie, but it's not gonna be enough tonight.

Theyhateme459
12-15-2012, 10:54 PM
Kyrie is Special....

Kemba has a career high tonight.. ballin, to bad we can't play defemse down the stretch

justinnum1
12-15-2012, 10:55 PM
irving is a top 3 pg

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 10:55 PM
Plenty of cute calls tonight for the refs. Not sure whats going on.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 10:56 PM
Kyrie = Batman

Max.This
12-15-2012, 10:56 PM
yeah but kyrie needs to learn to distribute too. If his shot is off one night he needs to learn to pass better

NYMetros
12-15-2012, 10:56 PM
Please just stay healthy Kyrie.

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 10:57 PM
Varejao will miss one for sure

Theyhateme459
12-15-2012, 10:59 PM
I know he was wide open, but Kyrie can not pass that ball up to Anderson V. I would rather Kyrie go against the double team the way he's been shooting.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 10:59 PM
Knicks got lucky tonight, Andersons gotta knock those down.

Mr. Baller
12-15-2012, 11:00 PM
I got to give Clyde credit. He called that

justinnum1
12-15-2012, 11:02 PM
you pass it to a 60% foul shooter? oh well

knicksfan42
12-15-2012, 11:03 PM
you pass it to a 60% foul shooter? oh well

He was wide open, they had zero timeouts, it was a good pass.

nycericanguy
12-15-2012, 11:03 PM
Knicks got lucky tonight, Andersons gotta knock those down.

it took an unreal performance by Kyrie in those last 2 minutes to even make it a game...

Cracka2HI!
12-15-2012, 11:04 PM
Clippers bigs passing like PG's!

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:04 PM
wow a win is a win 18-5 and 10 -0 at home and man is kryie irving a beast and felton played well along with chandler

BklyNyk
12-15-2012, 11:04 PM
Irving is such a beast. I hope he can stay healthy cause he's fun to watch.

Mr. Baller
12-15-2012, 11:04 PM
you pass it to a 60% foul shooter? oh well

Rather have Varejao get it at the basket and get fouled then Irving force a double teamed 3 at the buzzer

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:05 PM
it took an unreal performance by Kyrie in those last 2 minutes to even make it a game...

Or I can turn it around and say it took a missed free throw for the Knicks to not have blown that game.

bucketss
12-15-2012, 11:06 PM
knicks win another without the cancer.

knicksfan42
12-15-2012, 11:06 PM
18-5, 10-0 at home.

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:06 PM
Or I can turn it around and say it took a missed free throw for the Knicks to not have blown that game.
and we win in overtime

SteBO
12-15-2012, 11:08 PM
Who cares...a win is a win.

bklynny67
12-15-2012, 11:08 PM
Knicks will continue to get hate. You guys are funny. Talk all you want, Knicks are 18-5 and 10-0 at home, winning games even when Melo sits, and still no Amar'e or Shump all season.

Once again, keep talkin, Knicks keep winnin. 18-5. Only OKC has a better record and only slightly better. People still don't wanna admit Knicks are a top NBA team this yr, and that's fine. LOL people so funny/jealous this yr.

xxplayerxx23
12-15-2012, 11:09 PM
:phew: Kyrie is such a beast.

knicksfan42
12-15-2012, 11:09 PM
and we win in overtime

Besides Novak and Smith missed free throws in the final minute, bad luck. Luck evened out.



Without, Melo, Camby, Wallace, Shumpert, and Amare (last two more important today do to severe lack of depth tonight).

xxplayerxx23
12-15-2012, 11:10 PM
Who cares...a win is a win.

:nod: This.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:10 PM
and we win in overtime

The way Kyrie was playing down the stretch.. Im not too sure.

But I wont play what ifs anymore.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:11 PM
18-5, 10-0 at home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCtm4STyIkE :dance2::drunk:

xxplayerxx23
12-15-2012, 11:11 PM
Enough without Amare and Iman crap they have been out all year. Obviously not having Melo hurt we held on, Im sick of seeing without those other two because we have this record without them,just adds to the haters hate. 18-5 is great once amare comes back they will see he will make it work.

Theyhateme459
12-15-2012, 11:13 PM
Old man fisher still doing work

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:13 PM
Brook Lopez got a double double!!!! Praise Jesus! The world IS coming to an end on Friday!!!

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:14 PM
Irving is such a beast. I hope he can stay healthy cause he's fun to watch.

Him and Lillard are so fun to watch

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:15 PM
Brook Lopez got a double double!!!! Praise Jesus! The world IS coming to an end on Friday!!!

That's Reggie Evans who has toughened him up. Tyson had an allstar game tonight. But so is Lopez right now, he's effecting Chicago's D.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:15 PM
Brook Lopez got a double double!!!! Praise Jesus! The world IS coming to an end on Friday!!!

Glad to see him back on track.

And you have to admit, his defense has been MUCH better.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:16 PM
somebody give Gerald Wallace the C right now.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:16 PM
Nets players just keep going into the stands hahahha. Love the hustle.

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:17 PM
That's Reggie Evans who has toughened him up. Tyson had an allstar game tonight. But so is Lopez right now, he's effecting Chicago's D.

We cannot win without him

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:17 PM
Nets players just keep going into the stands hahahha. Love the hustle.

No just Wallace. The man has no regard for his own body.

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:18 PM
Brook Lopez on a minute restriction and now we cannot score. We will lose this.

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:20 PM
wow
teague

BigBlueCrew
12-15-2012, 11:20 PM
Teague is such a ****

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:21 PM
Wow ref really? 3 FTs

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:21 PM
Yup, bailout for Deron.

Ebbs
12-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Kyrie is something else

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:22 PM
wow Teague :facepalm:

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Need a bucket here

Robbw241
12-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Teague deserved that for even trying to block. It's deron he's missing anyways

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Chicago defense is so suffocating

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Teague might as well hugged Reggie there. What was that?

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:22 PM
bulls defense is so good

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:23 PM
Kyrie is something else

he's the best PG in the East. Soon to be in the game.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:24 PM
he's the best PG in the East. Soon to be in the game.

I......completely agree.

BBallfan8
12-15-2012, 11:24 PM
The way Kyrie was playing down the stretch.. Im not too sure.

But I wont play what ifs anymore.

You should just worry about your own team and that pathetic excuse of a superstar point guard.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:24 PM
Brook Lopez back in? hell w/ mins. limits

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:25 PM
You should just worry about your own team and that pathetic excuse of a superstar point guard.

uncalled for

justinnum1
12-15-2012, 11:26 PM
nets defense was pathetic there

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:26 PM
wow

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:26 PM
What on earth... did we fall asleep??!?!?!

BigBlueCrew
12-15-2012, 11:26 PM
wow the lane just spread open for Marco

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:26 PM
You should just worry about your own team and that pathetic excuse of a superstar point guard.

blah blah blah blah.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:26 PM
Nets have no legs left.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:27 PM
Nets have no legs left.

Not after last night.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:27 PM
gotta go Lopez or Johnson here.

SteBO
12-15-2012, 11:27 PM
The way Kyrie was playing down the stretch.. Im not too sure.

But I wont play what ifs anymore.

You should just worry about your own team and that pathetic excuse of a superstar point guard.
Someone's insecure....:laugh2:

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:28 PM
joe time

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:28 PM
I called the Nets to lose this one while we were up 4 with 2 minutes left. Lets see

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:28 PM
gotta go Lopez or Johnson here.

My prediction. Deron will somehow be left wide open and miss it.

Longhornfan1234
12-15-2012, 11:29 PM
Parker is clearly the best player on the Spurs.

Theyhateme459
12-15-2012, 11:29 PM
OT.... Minny could not get the winning shot on multiple chances

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:29 PM
Deron Williams lost his clutch game?

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:29 PM
And here comes the Deron criticism.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:29 PM
Deron Williams lost his clutch game?

Just just short.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:30 PM
My prediction. Deron will somehow be left wide open and miss it.

good call.

kdspurman
12-15-2012, 11:30 PM
Winning so many games without key players is just great. Being able to stay afloat with the injuries and tough schedule will pay off late in the season

TeamSeattle
12-15-2012, 11:30 PM
Its just not Deron Williams's year.

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:30 PM
Parker is clearly the best player on the Spurs.

no

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:30 PM
Why would they go to Deron? The guy has been terrible in clutch situations. 9%

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:30 PM
good call.

Not happy that I made the call, trust me.

BigBlueCrew
12-15-2012, 11:30 PM
And here comes the Deron criticism.

Are you implying that he doesnt deserve it?

BBallfan8
12-15-2012, 11:31 PM
Deron sucks so much...

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:31 PM
Why would they go to Deron? The guy has been terrible in clutch situations. 9%

With Teague on him I dont blame Avery honestly.

kdspurman
12-15-2012, 11:31 PM
Parker is clearly the best player on the Spurs.

Do you only show up when Parker is having a better game than Duncan? Seriously man :pity:

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:31 PM
Deron Williams lost his clutch game?

Never had it. He is 9% FG percentage in clutch situations

Longhornfan1234
12-15-2012, 11:31 PM
no

You haven't watch any recent Spurs games.

Longhornfan1234
12-15-2012, 11:32 PM
Do you only show up when Parker is having a better game than Duncan? Seriously man :pity:

No, I have watched the last 5 Spurs games. Parker > Duncan.

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:33 PM
:laugh2:

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:33 PM
Ugh. Hate those types on losses.

Great shot by Deron..four points down :facepalm:

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:33 PM
I put this on the Nets coach. Sitting Lopez and knowing if it got close you were going to put him in? what was the point of the mins. limit?

cheaptrikz
12-15-2012, 11:33 PM
Nice win, good game from the rook

TeamSeattle
12-15-2012, 11:34 PM
Lol Deron hits the shot that doesn't count though. Brooklyn could be the 7th seed tonight with a win by Boston and now Chicago.

netsgiantsyanks
12-15-2012, 11:34 PM
deron williams :facepalm:

BBallfan8
12-15-2012, 11:34 PM
Serious question Nets fans. How many times have you watched Deron in a Nets jersey and thought "this guy is a superstar".

kdspurman
12-15-2012, 11:35 PM
No, I have watched the last 5 Spurs games. Parker > Duncan.

You only comment when Parker is playing better.

Like I said before, and like many others have said Duncan is more valuable to this team. Easily

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:35 PM
I put this on the Nets coach. Sitting Lopez and knowing if it got close you were going to put him in? what was the point of the mins. limit?

Just being overcautious with Brook. I dont exactly blame Avery.

We just broke down on defense at the end. Tough game.

effen5
12-15-2012, 11:36 PM
Deron hasn't been good since he made Sloan retire.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:36 PM
Serious question Nets fans. How many times have you watched Deron in a Nets jersey and thought "this guy is a superstar".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgVcR5mXQHE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN8CYbmVRHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIXQ2w2pv9o

You sure do talk a lot.

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:36 PM
Deron Williams is terrible. Anyone calling him the Nets best player knows nothing about basketball

kdspurman
12-15-2012, 11:36 PM
Ha. Terry struggling makes me :)

netsgiantsyanks
12-15-2012, 11:37 PM
Serious question Nets fans. How many times have you watched Deron in a Nets jersey and thought "this guy is a superstar".

barely. i can understand that he had a ****** team, but he doesn't have a ****** team anymore. he's probably the most frustrating player on the team.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:37 PM
Just being overcautious with Brook. I dont exactly blame Avery.

We just broke down on defense at the end. Tough game.

you have to. If you know that he's coming in if it's a 2 pt. game why take him out when you leading by double digits? when he was on a roll and not showing any sign of fatigue. Is he that brittle?

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:38 PM
Serious question Nets fans. How many times have you watched Deron in a Nets jersey and thought "this guy is a superstar".

For a guy whose team who has been pretty awful the past 2 years with 2 "superstars" you talk alot of garbage

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:38 PM
Lol Deron hits the shot that doesn't count though. Brooklyn could be the 7th seed tonight with a win by Boston and now Chicago.

Are we already looking into playoff seeds? The 8th seed is only out of 1st by 5 or so?

Longhornfan1234
12-15-2012, 11:38 PM
You only comment when Parker is playing better.

Like I said before, and like many others have said Duncan is more valuable to this team. Easily

Parker is the leader, runs the offense, leading scorer, and the man they go to in the clutch. Parker's value > Duncan's value.

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:38 PM
With Teague on him I dont blame Avery honestly.

I do. Deron has been bad this year. He was bad in this game too even though the stats say otherwise. He is such an overrated player.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:39 PM
you have to. If you know that he's coming in if it's a 2 pt. game why take him out when you leading by double digits? when he was on a roll and not showing any sign of fatigue. Is he that brittle?

Not that brittle at all, just again the Nets realize how important he is to the team. They dont want to overwork him coming off a back to back in his second game.

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:39 PM
Lol Deron hits the shot that doesn't count though. Brooklyn could be the 7th seed tonight with a win by Boston and now Chicago.

Oh the playoffs start tomorrow? Good to know. Guess thats why the Knicks assembled a team of 40 year olds

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:39 PM
For a guy whose team who has been pretty awful the past 2 years with 2 "superstars" you talk alot of garbage

wat is his favorite team

Longhornfan1234
12-15-2012, 11:39 PM
Parker is underrated. He's abusing the best PG in the NBA.

NYJ - NYY
12-15-2012, 11:39 PM
Serious question Nets fans. How many times have you watched Deron in a Nets jersey and thought "this guy is a superstar".

For a guy whose team who has been pretty awful the past 2 years with 2 "superstars" you talk alot of garbage

Pretty sure Knicks were still better than the nuts

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:39 PM
I do. Deron has been bad this year. He was bad in this game too even though the stats say otherwise. He is such an overrated player.

Right now? 1000%.

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:40 PM
Parker is underrated. He's abusing the best PG in the NBA.

he is not playing cp4

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:40 PM
you have to. If you know that he's coming in if it's a 2 pt. game why take him out when you leading by double digits? when he was on a roll and not showing any sign of fatigue. Is he that brittle?

Avery is an idiot. While Brook was in the Bulls could not score and we could not be stopped. He takes him out and waits for the Bulls to cut it to 2 with all the momentum to put him back in

effen5
12-15-2012, 11:40 PM
Can't wait to see Rose/Teague in the future.

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:40 PM
Right now? 1000%.

Always has been except for a few years in Utah

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:41 PM
Deron should have destroying Teague but his lazy *** let Joe and Lopez do all the work.

TeamSeattle
12-15-2012, 11:41 PM
Oh the playoffs start tomorrow? Good to know. Guess thats why the Knicks assembled a team of 40 year olds

Top seed in the East.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:42 PM
even that last shot by Deron.....**** go to the rim or just give it to Joe or Gerald.

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:42 PM
Pretty sure Knicks were still better than the nuts

we have a superstar since when

Longhornfan1234
12-15-2012, 11:42 PM
he is not playing cp4

Nope, he's playing Rajon Rondo.

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:42 PM
Serious question Nets fans. How many times have you watched Deron in a Nets jersey and thought "this guy is a superstar".

For a guy whose team who has been pretty awful the past 2 years with 2 "superstars" you talk alot of garbage

Pretty sure Knicks were still better than the nuts

And yet your team was the bigger joke.

BBallfan8
12-15-2012, 11:42 PM
For a guy whose team who has been pretty awful the past 2 years with 2 "superstars" you talk alot of garbage

Just calling how i see it... I have watched enough Nets games to know how horrible he has been in that jersey.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:42 PM
Always has been except for a few years in Utah

Disagree. But he certainly hasnt put it together this year by any means. I'm not sure if he needs a game off or what but hes just look completely sluggish.

Passing still as great as ever but his shot is non existent.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
12-15-2012, 11:42 PM
Top seed in the East.

On December 15th....


Seriously, so much **** talking going around by everyone and it's December. Things are going to change by April.

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:43 PM
For a guy whose team who has been pretty awful the past 2 years with 2 "superstars" you talk alot of garbage

Just calling how i see it... I have watched enough Nets games to know how horrible he has been in that jersey.

He has played far below expectation but to say horrible is idiotic. He is like 2011 Melo right now

netsgiantsyanks
12-15-2012, 11:44 PM
his passing isn't the problem, it's his defense and his ****** shot selection.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:45 PM
On December 15th....


Seriously, so much **** talking going around by everyone and it's December. Things are going to change by April.

Exactly, Most teams are still coming together. The Knicks have gotten off to a great start but all this "without Amare and Shump" and NBA champs nonsense is way too much at this point in the season.

And I get I'll be bashed because I am a Nets fan and saying this but any rational Knicks fan should/would agree.

nyballa1991
12-15-2012, 11:45 PM
He has played far below expectation but to say horrible is idiotic. He is like 2011 Melo right now

bahahahahaha thats the dumbest thing I've seen here today.

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:45 PM
Oh the playoffs start tomorrow? Good to know. Guess thats why the Knicks assembled a team of 40 year olds

Top seed in the East.

Lmao good to know championships are won in December. Werent Knicks top 3 seed in the East last Jan? Funny stuff

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:46 PM
Avery is an idiot. While Brook was in the Bulls could not score and we could not be stopped. He takes him out and waits for the Bulls to cut it to 2 with all the momentum to put him back in

yeh that's why I'm more into blaming him. Ngl Deron had an efficient game coming off back to back and 4 gms. in 5 nights, but in this type of game it comes down to the coach and right now, the Nets have championship contending talent but not championship coaching.

BBallfan8
12-15-2012, 11:46 PM
He has played far below expectation but to say horrible is idiotic. He is like 2011 Melo right now

Meant horrible by star standards... And Melo never avraged 16ppg on 38% shooting ... He is more like 2011 Brandon Jennings.

netsgiantsyanks
12-15-2012, 11:47 PM
cocky knick fans amuse me. 4 more months of basketball left.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:47 PM
his passing isn't the problem, it's his defense and his ****** shot selection.

I can't really **** on his D tonight. Again 4 out of 5 nights double OT last night, when you spent, you spent. Point is your coach put him into that type of position. He D'Antoni this game.

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:48 PM
Disagree. But he certainly hasnt put it together this year by any means. I'm not sure if he needs a game off or what but hes just look completely sluggish.

Passing still as great as ever but his shot is non existent.

Tell me why you disagree instead of just throwing it out there and hoping it stick.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:48 PM
I wonder how good this Nets team would be with Tom Thibodeau.....

TeamSeattle
12-15-2012, 11:48 PM
Exactly, Most teams are still coming together. The Knicks have gotten off to a great start but all this "without Amare and Shump" and NBA champs nonsense is way too much at this point in the season.

And I get I'll be bashed because I am a Nets fan and saying this but any rational Knicks fan should/would agree.

Of course nba champs is nonsense, tell me what knick fan said this? Please Nets fans you were talkin a lot of stuff before the season started and now all you can say is wait until the end of season because of the state of ur team.

Mr Costanza
12-15-2012, 11:48 PM
Lmao good to know championships are won in December. Werent Knicks top 3 seed in the East last Jan? Funny stuff

You are obsessed with the Knicks.

nyballa1991
12-15-2012, 11:48 PM
Exactly, Most teams are still coming together. The Knicks have gotten off to a great start but all this "without Amare and Shump" and NBA champs nonsense is way too much at this point in the season.

No one has crowned knicks as champs. Just because the fan base is happy to be in first place (we know you hate that as do many others) you dont need to fabricate stories in your minds. Knicks fans have a right to over celebrate sometimes, times have been hard rooting for this team. Its hard not to be excited with all the crap the knicks get on psd.

kdspurman
12-15-2012, 11:48 PM
Parker is the leader, runs the offense, leading scorer, and the man they go to in the clutch. Parker's value > Duncan's value.

Nope. Again shows your lack of knowledge on the system.
They go to whoever in the clutch, whether its TP, TD, Manu, or even Neal or Green.

Parker is great, runs the offense and creates for everyone.

Duncan provides post play, and is literally the foundation on defense. He's the anchor. If Tim goes out you're looking at Diaw/Blair/Bonner/Splitter. Teams will score at the basket at will. And the defensive numbers with TD on the bench only further prove my point.

We have several guys who can score in place of Parker and Manu can provide play making ability. Yea we'll rely on some guys to hit more jump shots but we have the personnel for it.

You're talking to a guy who's been following this team for as long as I've understood basketball, and no disrespect but from your comments about the spurs and other topics it shows your clouded judgment on many topics are pure bs and responses based on the now and things going on in a particular game.

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:49 PM
He has played far below expectation but to say horrible is idiotic. He is like 2011 Melo right now

Meant horrible by star standards... And Melo never avraged 16ppg on 38% shooting ... He is more like 2011 Brandon Jennings.

And Melo has also never averaged 9 assists. Your comparing apples to oranges. We dont need him to score we need him to make everyone else better he aint doing that and yes for a 1 month and a half Melo has shot sub 40%

netsgiantsyanks
12-15-2012, 11:50 PM
I wonder how good this Nets team would be with Tom Thibodeau.....

better than right now, i can tell you that.

nyballa1991
12-15-2012, 11:50 PM
And Melo has also never averaged 9 assists. Your comparing apples to oranges and yes for a 1 month and a half Melo has shot sub 40%

And how well did deron shoot last year?? just barely 40% for a WHOLE season.

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:51 PM
cocky knick fans amuse me. 4 more months of basketball left.

well we havent since this played this well in over decade some guys go overbroad because they are tired of losing and getting made funny of being a knicks fan but your right its early

effen5
12-15-2012, 11:51 PM
So in this thread
Parker > Duncan
Knicks = Champions
Deron = 2011 Melo

BBallfan8
12-15-2012, 11:51 PM
And Melo has also never averaged 9 assists. Your comparing apples to oranges. We dont need him to score we need him to make everyone else better he aint doing that and yes for a 1 month and a half Melo has shot sub 40%

Deron has shot sub 40% for two years... Clearly the same thing.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:52 PM
I wonder how good this Nets team would be with Tom Thibodeau.....

even Stan Van Gundy would be an upgrade.

TeamSeattle
12-15-2012, 11:52 PM
So in this thread
Parker > Duncan
Knicks = Champions
Deron = 2011 Melo


You forgot Bulls> Nets

Mr Costanza
12-15-2012, 11:52 PM
So in this thread
Parker > Duncan
Knicks = Champions
Deron = 2011 Melo

Maybe I missed it but who declared the Knicks the champs? No sarcasm, did someone make that post?

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:52 PM
And Melo has also never averaged 9 assists. Your comparing apples to oranges and yes for a 1 month and a half Melo has shot sub 40%

And how well did deron shoot last year?? just barely 40% for a WHOLE season.

And Melo shot barely 40% the WHOLE SEASON for a Forward that plays in the post in 2011.

nyballa1991
12-15-2012, 11:53 PM
So in this thread
Parker > Duncan
Knicks = Champions
Deron = 2011 Melo

lol who said this? i swear lol people just make ***** up in their head when it comes to the knicks...People will never run out of something to hate on.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:53 PM
Tell me why you disagree instead of just throwing it out there and hoping it stick.

His entire time in Utah he was an exceptional player. He truly was the reason they were such a great team, that is why I disagree.

But I'm not trying to get at him being as good of a player in NJ/BK. He's completely fallen off the map in that 2 year time span. (he was actually playing a lot better last year than so far this year) Now while I'm hoping for him to come back to that level of play, I certainly am realistic.

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:54 PM
So in this thread
Parker > Duncan
Knicks = Champions
Deron = 2011 Melo


You forgot Bulls> Nets

Dont forget

BULLS>KNICKS

nyballa1991
12-15-2012, 11:54 PM
And Melo shot barely 40% the WHOLE SEASON for a Forward that plays in the post in 2011.

nah williams was two bad games away from being under 40% melo had plenty of breathing room. IN FACT if you total up derons career as a net, i think he might be under 40%..just saying

ecorrea
12-15-2012, 11:55 PM
So much talk about Knicks and nets in these threads.

How about some credit to dem bulls! Thibs, Noah, deng, boozer, bellenelli, butler, and now Teague coachin and playin some ball as of late...

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:55 PM
And how well did deron shoot last year?? just barely 40% for a WHOLE season.

he only played 22 games last season.

TeamSeattle
12-15-2012, 11:55 PM
Dont forget

BULLS>KNICKS

They are leading in the season series but we still have the better record. By the end of the season the Bulls will be right there though with us, they have a good future.

seikou8
12-15-2012, 11:56 PM
So much talk about Knicks and nets in these threads.

How about some credit to dem bulls! Thibs, Noah, deng, boozer, bellenelli, butler, and now Teague coachin and playin some ball as of late...

true imiss watching d-rose tho

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:56 PM
Of course nba champs is nonsense, tell me what knick fan said this? Please Nets fans you were talkin a lot of stuff before the season started and now all you can say is wait until the end of season because of the state of ur team.

I hate that whole "every Nets fan was talking junk". Besides DoMeFavors and Wavey, who was saying that?

95 percent of the actual Nets fans on here and on different sites have been completely realistic.

There are a number of Knicks fans that have reiterated the championship talk, please dont act like I'm saying this out of the blue.

nyballa1991
12-15-2012, 11:57 PM
he only played 22 games last season.


nah that was 2 years ago.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-15-2012, 11:58 PM
he only played 22 games last season.

Not true, 55.

waveycrockett
12-15-2012, 11:58 PM
And Melo shot barely 40% the WHOLE SEASON for a Forward that plays in the post in 2011.

nah williams was two bad games away from being under 40% melo had plenty of breathing room. IN FACT if you total up derons career as a net, i think he might be under 40%..just saying
Melo is a big man post up player that is only a scorer Deron is a PG. DeAndre Jordan has a better FG% than CP3. Whats your point??

Chill_Will_24
12-15-2012, 11:59 PM
I wonder how good this Nets team would be with Tom Thibodeau.....

Nets have no defensive players. Their best one is Wallace and the rest range from average to bad with horrible interior defense and pathetic pick and roll defense. Their transition D is terrible as well.

Their deficiencies are masked by an excellent defensive coach. In fact i give Avery props for doing as well as he has given the lack of tools.

The problem with Avery is he is stubborn and refuses to play young guys even on the back end of a back to back. He allows Deron to chuck all day but if MarShon Brooks makes one mistake he is yanked. He has a hell of a defensive athletic quick PG on the bench and never plays him even against quick guards like Curry, Ellis, and Jennings.

His substitutions are horrible and his play calling is laughable. We rarely ever score off a time out unless it's with a broken play. He is predictable and his sets are simplistic and at times baffling. For example he will have Deron run off all these screens just to get the ball at the top of the key to run a play.

He does not hold players accountable. Brook Lopez takes 6 seconds to decide what to do on an isolation play instead of nipping that in the bud and coaching the kid. Brook Lopez has NEVER had a legit coach to toughen him up.

So all this crud about Thibs somehow magically working the Nets into a top defensive team is ridiculous. He has Deng, Noah, Gibson, Hinrich, great defenders and even Bellineli has been good for him.

Avery has Wallace who is all effort limited skill and who else? Bogans? Brook has been better this year but his pick and roll D is still pathetic and his help defense is still not great. He has improved his post defense though.

KniCks4LiFe
12-15-2012, 11:59 PM
nah that was 2 years ago.

21 and 8 w/ team that played in a morgue? seriously dude have you ever played in Continental Air wait ... I that ditch in the swamp they use to play at? :laugh:

nyballa1991
12-15-2012, 11:59 PM
I hate that whole "every Nets fan was talking junk". Besides DoMeFavors and Wavey, who was saying that?

95 percent of the actual Nets fans on here and on different sites have been completely realistic.

There are a number of Knicks fans that have reiterated the championship talk, please dont act like I'm saying this out of the blue.

prove this. Saying knicks will win a championship...and knicks have a shot at a championship are totally different.

nyballa1991
12-16-2012, 12:00 AM
Melo is a big man post up player that is only a scorer Deron is a PG. DeAndre Jordan has a better FG% than CP3. Whats your point??

melo takes just as money jumpshots as deron does.. get outta here with that

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:01 AM
Melo is a big man post up player that is only a scorer Deron is a PG. DeAndre Jordan has a better FG% than CP3. Whats your point??

melo takes just as money jumpshots as deron does.. get outta here with that
Dude Melo plays PF get out of here with that

Mr Costanza
12-16-2012, 12:01 AM
I hate that whole "every Nets fan was talking junk". Besides DoMeFavors and Wavey, who was saying that?

95 percent of the actual Nets fans, and on different sites are completely realistic.

There are a number of Knicks fans that have reiterated the championship talk, please dont act like I'm saying this out of the blue.

Very true DMF and the hipster give the Net fans a very bad rep around here.

As far as the Knicks winning the championship, I see many more posts from other team fans mocking these phantom posts that never existed. Example, someone saying the Knicks currently have the best record in the east and somehow that turns into us saying they are going to win the championship?

nyballa1991
12-16-2012, 12:02 AM
21 and 8 w/ team that played in a morgue? seriously dude have you ever played in Continental Air wait ... I that ditch in the swamp they use to play at? :laugh:

what does that have to do with him shooting poorly? I actually think he actually was once a top 2 pg....im just pointing out his inefficient scoring.

nyballa1991
12-16-2012, 12:03 AM
Dude Melo plays PF get out of here with that

so? andrea bargnani plays C...yeah i guess hes a real post up player.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-16-2012, 12:03 AM
prove this. Saying knicks will win a championship...and knicks have a shot at a championship are totally different.

I really dont have the time to go through every Knicks post on this site. I've simply seen it more than I can count. If you dont believe me fine, I wont stress over it.

BBallfan8
12-16-2012, 12:04 AM
And Melo shot barely 40% the WHOLE SEASON for a Forward that plays in the post in 2011.

It was 43%.... And Deron hasnt sniffed that in years.

effen5
12-16-2012, 12:04 AM
CJ Watson on Deron Williams


“I always thought Deron was the best point guard in the league,” Watson said yesterday during his introductory press conference at the Nets’ practice facility. “When everyone asks me who is the toughest point guard, I always say him."

I wonder if your thinking twice about that now.

nyballa1991
12-16-2012, 12:04 AM
I really dont have the time to go through every Knicks post on this site. I've simply seen it more than I can count. If you dont believe me fine, I wont stress over it.

I'm not saying it isnt true, but I've never seen it.

KniCks4LiFe
12-16-2012, 12:05 AM
what does that have to do with him shooting poorly? I actually think he actually was once a top 2 pg....im just pointing out his inefficient scoring.

what do you mean what does that have to do?

Did you not see Melo when they told him he was traded to NJ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDw48rY_nW8)?

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:06 AM
I hate that whole "every Nets fan was talking junk". Besides DoMeFavors and Wavey, who was saying that?


gtfo I said IF we got Dwight. Dont lump in the same category as that degenerate. Deron and JJ need to figure **** out if we want to get to that level. Lopez has and JJ is slowly turning a corner but Deron is in his own ****ing world right now.

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:07 AM
It was 43%.... And Deron hasnt sniffed that in years.

Ok whats your point? That Melo is a better shooter? ok thats his job. 43% is awful for a guy with his size/skill and responsibility on the court.

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-16-2012, 12:07 AM
Very true DMF and the hipster give the Net fans a very bad rep around here.

As far as the Knicks winning the championship, I see many more posts from other team fans mocking these phantom posts that never existed. Example, someone saying the Knicks currently have the best record in the east and somehow that turns into us saying they are going to win the championship?

I see where you're coming from. I've seen it before on this site and others, but hey if I'm getting ahead of myself then my mistake. Its not like I have a number of these posts saved.

Knicks have a real shot at a championship, I wont doubt that at all. But this is a LONG season and an even more difficult playoffs. I understand the excitement, I just feel many fans are getting a bit too ahead of themselves.

Chill_Will_24
12-16-2012, 12:10 AM
His entire time in Utah he was an exceptional player. He truly was the reason they were such a great team, that is why I disagree.

But I'm not trying to get at him being as good of a player in NJ/BK. He's completely fallen off the map in that 2 year time span. (he was actually playing a lot better last year than so far this year) Now while I'm hoping for him to come back to that level of play, I certainly am realistic.

Deron Williams benefited from a great system with Jerry Sloan and also solid teams. He was NOT the reason they were good. Deron did well under Sloan because Sloan is a no nonsense coach that demanded excellence from him and challenged him to be his best. As soon as he got to NJ he got the "players coach" that he wanted and Avery lets him chuck all day and play lazy and pout. We are seeing the REAL Deron Williams.

If Brooklyn fires Johnson and gets a no nonsense coach that will get in his face when he does something wrong, we might see Utah Deron again. For the sake of argument though Deron was often compered to Paul while in Utah which is the reason i say he has always been overrated.

If you need me to show you the stats i will but Deron has NEVER been close to Paul. Paul has always been better by a lot. I did a fanpost over at NetsDaiy about it but when you check the advanced stats Paul's all time WORST statistics are comparable to Deron's best. The only major difference was in asst% where Deron in 2009 had a 47.8% mark while Paul's worst mark ever was his rookie year at 38.2%

Besides that, through the board all of Paul's worst marks in every category are either comparable or better than Deron's best mark in the respective category

TeamSeattle
12-16-2012, 12:10 AM
what do you mean what does that have to do?

Did you not see Melo when they told him he was traded to NJ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDw48rY_nW8)?

That video is still hilarious to this day, poor Nets.

"Looks like its official now you've been traded to the Nets"

"Huh Who...Am I?....I dont even know dawg, thats a new one."

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-16-2012, 12:11 AM
Nets have no defensive players. Their best one is Wallace and the rest range from average to bad with horrible interior defense and pathetic pick and roll defense. Their transition D is terrible as well.

Their deficiencies are masked by an excellent defensive coach. In fact i give Avery props for doing as well as he has given the lack of tools.

The problem with Avery is he is stubborn and refuses to play young guys even on the back end of a back to back. He allows Deron to chuck all day but if MarShon Brooks makes one mistake he is yanked. He has a hell of a defensive athletic quick PG on the bench and never plays him even against quick guards like Curry, Ellis, and Jennings.

His substitutions are horrible and his play calling is laughable. We rarely ever score off a time out unless it's with a broken play. He is predictable and his sets are simplistic and at times baffling. For example he will have Deron run off all these screens just to get the ball at the top of the key to run a play.

He does not hold players accountable. Brook Lopez takes 6 seconds to decide what to do on an isolation play instead of nipping that in the bud and coaching the kid. Brook Lopez has NEVER had a legit coach to toughen him up.

So all this crud about Thibs somehow magically working the Nets into a top defensive team is ridiculous. He has Deng, Noah, Gibson, Hinrich, great defenders and even Bellineli has been good for him.

Avery has Wallace who is all effort limited skill and who else? Bogans? Brook has been better this year but his pick and roll D is still pathetic and his help defense is still not great. He has improved his post defense though.

A bit of sarcasm there in my post but I realize how one would not realize that. I'm actually a supporter of Avery, mostly because of how well he's taught this team how to play defense. Trust me, I watch the same games you do and get upset (mostly) with some of the strange calls he makes and his lack of one on one coaching with players that need it (Marshon and Brook).

I'm not just another guy on netsdaily saying FIRE AVERY, but I certainly want to see him improve more on the offensive end as a coach.

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:12 AM
Very true DMF and the hipster give the Net fans a very bad rep around here.

As far as the Knicks winning the championship, I see many more posts from other team fans mocking these phantom posts that never existed. Example, someone saying the Knicks currently have the best record in the east and somehow that turns into us saying they are going to win the championship?

And Nobody cares.

BBallfan8
12-16-2012, 12:13 AM
gtfo I said IF we got Dwight. Dont lump in the same category as that degenerate. Deron and JJ need to figure **** out if we want to get to that level. Lopez has and JJ is slowly turning a corner but Deron is in his own ****ing world right now.

If I wasn't lazy I would pull up the countless "Nets are takin ova NY!!!!!" And "Knicks are scared" crap you posted non stop this summer. Don't backtrack now, Brooklyn's backcourt is TAKING OVER NEW YORK!!!

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:13 AM
CJ Watson on Deron Williams



I wonder if your thinking twice about that now.

He must be thinking it's Marquis Teague

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-16-2012, 12:13 AM
gtfo I said IF we got Dwight. Dont lump in the same category as that degenerate. Deron and JJ need to figure **** out if we want to get to that level. Lopez has and JJ is slowly turning a corner but Deron is in his own ****ing world right now.

Cmon man, be realistic. A number of times you have overrated this team. Granted it was somewhat to bait Knicks fans into arguing but you do not present a realistic case for this team and have some strange reasoning.

KniCks4LiFe
12-16-2012, 12:14 AM
That video is still hilarious to this day, poor Nets.

"Looks like its official now you've been traded to the Nets"

"Huh Who...Am I?....I dont even know dawg, thats a new one."

nobody was going to play to their full potential in that dump. Hell atleast Deron has a chance now. I bet he's not going to shoot under 40% this season. He's too good once he gets going. That reaction as much as I had issues w/ Melo because of stuff = :laugh:

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:14 AM
If I wasn't lazy I would pull up the countless "Nets are takin ova NY!!!!!" And "Knicks are scared" crap you posted non stop this summer. Don't backtrack now, Brooklyn's backcourt is TAKING OVER NEW YORK!!!

Really even if you did I wouldn't care. It's a sports forum. Sue me for getting hyped we built a solid basketball team this summer.

Blitzbolt
12-16-2012, 12:15 AM
I'm so tired of small lineups as a Gizz fan its so annoying.But this Jazz game was a battle of bigs you almost never see that anymore.

Chill_Will_24
12-16-2012, 12:15 AM
A bit of sarcasm there in my post but I realize how one would not realize that. I'm actually a supporter of Avery, mostly because of how well he's taught this team how to play defense. Trust me, I watch the same games you do and get upset (mostly) with some of the strange calls he makes and his lack of one on one coaching with players that need it (Marshon and Brook).

I'm not just another guy on netsdaily saying FIRE AVERY, but I certainly want to see him improve more on the offensive end as a coach.

Let's be clear here i DO WANT him fired. he is a terrible coach. I just think he has done a great job with their defense given his lack of tools. Avery has no business being anything more than a defensive coach in this league

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:18 AM
Avery Johnson is Mike Brown in disguise

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-16-2012, 12:18 AM
Deron Williams benefited from a great system with Jerry Sloan and also solid teams. He was NOT the reason they were good. Deron did well under Sloan because Sloan is a no nonsense coach that demanded excellence from him and challenged him to be his best. As soon as he got to NJ he got the "players coach" that he wanted and Avery lets him chuck all day and play lazy and pout. We are seeing the REAL Deron Williams.

If Brooklyn fires Johnson and gets a no nonsense coach that will get in his face when he does something wrong, we might see Utah Deron again. For the sake of argument though Deron was often compered to Paul while in Utah which is the reason i say he has always been overrated.

Who would you suggest?


If you need me to show you the stats i will but Deron has NEVER been close to Paul. Paul has always been better by a lot. I did a fanpost over at NetsDaiy about it but when you check the advanced stats Paul's all time WORST statistics are comparable to Deron's best. The only major difference was in asst% where Deron in 2009 had a 47.8% mark while Paul's worst mark ever was his rookie year at 38.2%

Besides that, through the board all of Paul's worst marks in every category are either comparable or better than Deron's best mark in the respective category

I've never been the one to call him the best PG in the league. I certainly know who that is. Now have I called him the second or third? Sure, because I felt as though a player who can give you 19 and 11 on a season is exceptional, but as we both know, he has simply not done that here with the Nets. I wont give up on Deron just yet, but I certainly can admit he is not the 07-10 Deron Williams.

KniCks4LiFe
12-16-2012, 12:19 AM
Avery Johnson is Mike Brown in disguise

Mike Brown is a little bit better than him. Avery is that bad. I only rank Kevin McHale under him.

BBallfan8
12-16-2012, 12:19 AM
Really even if you did I wouldn't care. It's a sports forum. Sue me for getting hyped we built a solid basketball team this summer.

Can't judge Knicks fans for getting excited about going 18-5.... And then say the ******** you just said above. Don't be a ****ing hypocrite, truth is you ran your mouth nonstop and are now butthurt because your team spent 85 mill a year on their starting line up to become a slightly above average team.

nyballa1991
12-16-2012, 12:20 AM
what do you mean what does that have to do?

Did you not see Melo when they told him he was traded to NJ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDw48rY_nW8)?

lol thats funny, but you cant tell me you really believe he shot poorly because he played in jersey.....

nyballa1991
12-16-2012, 12:22 AM
Can't judge Knicks fans for getting excited about going 18-5.... And then say the ******** you just said above. Don't be a ****ing hypocrite, truth is you ran your mouth nonstop and are now butthurt because your team spent 85 mill a year on their starting line up to become a slightly above average team.

This.

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:22 AM
Can't judge Knicks fans for getting excited about going 18-5.... And then say the ******** you just said above. Don't be a ****ing hypocrite, truth is you ran your mouth nonstop and are now butthurt because your team spent 85 mill a year on their starting line up to become a slightly above average team.

You guys look stupid for acting like you deserve a parade in December with a team of 40 year olds. Dont see how thats being a hypocrite but...

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-16-2012, 12:22 AM
Can't judge Knicks fans for getting excited about going 18-5.... And then say the ******** you just said above. Don't be a ****ing hypocrite, truth is you ran your mouth nonstop and are now butthurt because your team spent 85 mill a year on their starting line up to become a slightly above average team.

The season isnt over by any means. While the Nets are under performing at the moment, thats not to say they still cant be one of the better teams in the East.

You need to realize there are 59 games left.

netsgiantsyanks
12-16-2012, 12:23 AM
who's a good coach that's available that one would suggest?

Chill_Will_24
12-16-2012, 12:24 AM
Who would you suggest?



I've never been the one to call him the best PG in the league. I certainly know who that is. Now have I called him the second or third? Sure, because I felt as though a player who can give you 19 and 11 on a season is exceptional, but as we both know, he has simply not done that here with the Nets. I wont give up on Deron just yet, but I certainly can admit he is not the 07-10 Deron Williams.

He is overrated. Even during his best runs he did not really have a lot of competition. Since then the PG position has become tough. I stand by my comment. He has always been overrated and if he makes the AS game this season it will be a travesty and disrespect to Holiday and Irving

BBallfan8
12-16-2012, 12:26 AM
You guys look stupid for acting like you deserve a parade in December with a team of 40 year olds. Dont see how thats being a hypocrite but...

Look up the definition of hypocrite. You were as obnoxious as anyone before the nets even played ONE game. Now that it didn't work out for you, you judge others for celebrating too early. I can't even begin to imagine the type of garbage you would post here if the Nets were 18-5 and the Knicks were 13-10.

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:27 AM
He is overrated. Even during his best runs he did not really have a lot of competition. Since then the PG position has become tough. I stand by my comment. He has always been overrated and if he makes the AS game this season it will be a travesty and disrespect to Holiday and Irving

Chris Paul pre-knee injury
And a prime Nash
Prime Tony Parker

He is playing like an idiot and I dont think he worked on his game this summer enough. Too much PR.

KniCks4LiFe
12-16-2012, 12:29 AM
lol thats funny, but you cant tell me you really believe he shot poorly because he played in jersey.....

that's part of the reason, some players need alot of hype to play big. Look at Melo, he needed the spotlight on him to perform, Deron right now is adjusting, but his coach is not an upgrade. Avery hasn't coached for many yrs. and look at how much Devin Harris couldn't stand playing for him. It all adds up.

KniCks4LiFe
12-16-2012, 12:30 AM
who's a good coach that's available that one would suggest?

Stan.

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:31 AM
Look up the definition of hypocrite. You were as obnoxious as anyone before the nets even played ONE game. Now that it didn't work out for you, you judge others for celebrating too early. I can't even begin to imagine the type of garbage you would post here if the Nets were 18-5 and the Knicks were 13-10.

I know the definition of hypocrite. Even if it applies. Doesnt change the fact you guys look stupid. I dont see Clippers, Hawks or Grizzlies fans running a muck over here acting like they need a ring cause there teams are doing work in December.

BBallfan8
12-16-2012, 12:31 AM
that's part of the reason, some players need alot of hype to play big. Look at Melo, he needed the spotlight on him to perform, Deron right now is adjusting, but his coach is not an upgrade. Avery hasn't coached for many yrs. and look at how much Devin Harris couldn't stand playing for him. It all adds up.

How many excuses can you have for this guy... First he needed the spotlight to care, and now he needs to adjust to the spotlight?

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:34 AM
How many excuses can you have for this guy... First he needed the spotlight to care, and now he needs to adjust to the spotlight?

You are right clearly he has always been overrated and always sucked. I dont know what Coach K was thinking when he took this bum for Team USA and played him over Westbrook. He should have consulted with you. I wonder if the Knicks would give us Felton for him.

BBallfan8
12-16-2012, 12:34 AM
I know the definition of hypocrite. Even if it applies. Doesnt change the fact you guys look stupid. I dont see Hawks or Grizzlies fans running a muck over here acting like they need a ring.

It CLEARLY applies. Don't rain on other people's parade because this season isn't meeting your expectations. Plus stop implying Knicks fans are saying they won the ship, I'm just enjoying you eat crow after all the crap you spewed. We all remember your rants about the nets running New York City. Guess what, ny still doesn't care about your team.

KniCks4LiFe
12-16-2012, 12:36 AM
How many excuses can you have for this guy... First he needed the spotlight to care, and now he needs to adjust to the spotlight?

Deron went from Chicago, to a winning culture in Utah being built, playoff hype, then he went Marbury, went to NJ, losing culture, the forgotten team, no hype and now he's in Brooklyn lights are on, peeps are watching. It's going to take a bit. It's still December. Can't jump on players like that. He's a prick but very talented. And you can't name me anything that you'd get that's equal value on the market for him other than CP3 and Rando.

waveycrockett
12-16-2012, 12:36 AM
It CLEARLY applies. Don't rain on other people's parade because this season isn't meeting your expectations. Plus stop implying Knicks fans are saying they won the ship, I'm just enjoying you eat crow after all the crap you spewed. We all remember your rants about the nets running New York City. Guess what, ny still doesn't care about your team.
Ok it applies man. You caught me red handed I'm a homer. Let me know when you get that medal from PSD. 1 month into the season and I actually thought the Hawks would be AWFUL so I have to eat that crow first. NY doesn't care about my team yet you feel insecure enough about to keep bringing it up like it matters why?

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-16-2012, 12:37 AM
Phil Jackson to the Nets campaign starts NOW ;)

KniCks4LiFe
12-16-2012, 12:37 AM
Phil Jackson to the Nets campaign starts NOW ;)

chill homie.