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Faneik
12-12-2012, 07:12 PM
Rules:
- 12 man roster
- no more than 3 rookie contracts

http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

HouRealCoach
12-12-2012, 07:22 PM
That isn't Brandon Roy's contract...

HouRealCoach
12-12-2012, 07:26 PM
Howard/ Sanders
Ibaka/ Favors
LeBron/ Brewer
T. Allen/ Ray Allen
Rondo/ Billups

Defense = Championships

Robbw241
12-12-2012, 07:29 PM
I got Finals to study for... but **** it this is a perfect distraction

Kyrie Irving
Ray Allen
Lebron James
Kevin Love
Omer Asik

Richard Hamilton
Reggie Evans
Chandler Parsons
Jermaine O Neal
Greivis Vazquez
Corey brewer
Nick Collison




Coulda added more stars but thought this team would be "somewhat" realistic

GiantsSwaGG
12-12-2012, 07:30 PM
Pg Cp3
SG toney Allen
Sf Melo
Pf Ryan Anderson
C Tyson Chandler

HouRealCoach
12-12-2012, 07:36 PM
My team could beat both of yours lol

GiantsSwaGG
12-12-2012, 07:38 PM
My team could beat both of yours lol

**** yo team lol

HouRealCoach
12-12-2012, 07:39 PM
**** yo team lol

I'll add that my head coach is Doc Rivers & my assistant coach is Thibs lol

BEAST!!!

GiantsSwaGG
12-12-2012, 07:41 PM
I'll add that my head coach is Doc Rivers & my assistant coach is Thibs lol

BEAST!!!

My coach is pop and assistant jvg let gooo

HouRealCoach
12-12-2012, 07:43 PM
The score would be in the 70's & 80's lol

Faneik
12-12-2012, 07:44 PM
1st Unit
PG - Kyrie Irving 5.5M (rookie contract)
SG - Klay Thompson 2.3M (rookie contract)
SF - Lebron James 17.5M
PF - Kevin Love 13.7M
C - Anderson Varejao 8.4M


2nd Unit
PG - Kyle Lowry 5.8M
SG - JR Smith 2.8M
SF - Chandler Parsons 0.8M (rookie contract)
PF - Antawn Jamison 1.4M
C - Marcin Gortat 7.3M

11 - Chauncey Billups 3M
12 - Ronny Turiaf 1.1M

Total: 69.6M

mightybosstone
12-12-2012, 07:48 PM
I got Finals to study for... but **** it this is a perfect distraction

Kyrie Irving
Ray Allen
Lebron James
Kevin Love
Omer Asik

Richard Hamilton
Reggie Evans
Klay Thompson
Jermaine O Neal
Greivis Vazquez
Corey brewer
Nick Collison


$62,458,201

Coulda added more stars but thought this team would be "somewhat" realistic
This starting five is nearly identical to what I would have added, but since we've got about $7.5 million left to spend, let's take away Asik and add Tyson Chandler, then remove $1 million in salary on the bench. Also, I would recommend adding Chandler Parsons to the bench if possible. He's easily one of the best value contracts in the NBA and he's an extremely versatile player who can defend multiple positions, score from anywhere on the floor and hit set 3-pointers.

Faneik
12-12-2012, 07:50 PM
This starting five is nearly identical to what I would have added, but since we've got about $7.5 million left to spend, let's take away Asik and add Tyson Chandler, then remove $1 million in salary on the bench. Also, I would recommend adding Chandler Parsons to the bench if possible. He's easily one of the best value contracts in the NBA and he's an extremely versatile player who can defend multiple positions, score from anywhere on the floor and hit set 3-pointers.

for sure

NoahH
12-12-2012, 07:52 PM
C Anthony Davis (5) / Varejao (8)
PF Kevin Love (13) / Reggie Evans (1.5) / Ivan Johnson (1)
SF LeBron (17) / Paul George (2)
SG OJ Mayo (4) / Wes Matthews (6) / Ray Allen (3)
PG Kyle Lowry (5) / Kyrie Irving (5)
Total = 69.5

GiantsSwaGG
12-12-2012, 07:54 PM
The score would be in the 70's & 80's lol

We will be boring lol

Faneik
12-12-2012, 07:58 PM
C Anthony Davis (5) / Varejao (8)
PF Kevin Love (13) / Reggie Evans (1.5) / Ivan Johnson (1)
SF LeBron (17) / Paul George (2)
SG OJ Mayo (4) / Wes Matthews (6) / Ray Allen (3)
PG Kyle Lowry (5) / Kyrie Irving (5)
Total = 69.5

Paul George also good value @ 2.6M. Good find.

xxplayerxx23
12-12-2012, 07:59 PM
Pg-Paul-18 (rounded up)
SG-Allen-3.090.000
SF-Durant-18
PF-Lebron-18
C-Blatche 854,000

Bench
Crawford-5 mill
Shumpert-2 (rounded up)
Kidd 3,090,000
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed- 854,000
Matt Barnes 854,000
Two Minum scrubs 800,000 K
Beat that ;)

strahan92osi72
12-12-2012, 08:00 PM
Lillard/Bledsoe/Vazquez
DeRozan/George/Shumpert
Lebron/Parsons
Melo/Favors
Varejao/Koufos

sfattahian
12-12-2012, 08:04 PM
Starters:

Westbrook-$13.67
T.Allen-3.30
Durant-17.55
Ibaka-2.53
Chandler-13.60

Starters-50.65

Bench:

Rubio-3.71
CharlesJenkins-0.76
Harden-5.82
KlayThompson-2.29
DraymonGreen-0.85
K.Faried-1.35
Anthony Davis-5.14

Total Bench: $19.92

Total: $69.81 million

Faneik
12-12-2012, 08:05 PM
Lillard/Bledsoe/Vazquez
DeRozan/George/Shumpert
Lebron/Parsons
Melo/Favors
Varejao/Koufos

how many rookie contracts?

GiantsSwaGG
12-12-2012, 08:06 PM
Can we overpay a player?

robrobert13
12-12-2012, 08:07 PM
Kyle Lowry (5.8)/CJ Watson(0.9)
James Harden (5.8)/OJ Mayo (4)/Shannon Brown (3.5)
LeBron James (17.5)/Kawhi Leonard (1.6)
Serge Ibaka (2.2)/Reggie Evans (1.6)/Carl Landry (4.0)
Dwight Howard (19.2)/Andray Blatche (.8)

Total: 67 Mil

strahan92osi72
12-12-2012, 08:08 PM
how many rookie contracts?

3, Lillard, Shump, and Parsons.

Faneik
12-12-2012, 08:12 PM
3, Lillard, Shump, and Parsons.

what about Paul George?

strahan92osi72
12-12-2012, 08:13 PM
what about Paul George?

Oops, okay swap George with Ray Allen.

Faneik
12-12-2012, 08:13 PM
Starters:

Westbrook-$13.67
T.Allen-3.30
Durant-17.55
Ibaka-2.53
Chandler-13.60

Starters-50.65

Bench:

Rubio-3.71
CharlesJenkins-0.76
Harden-5.82
KlayThompson-2.29
DraymonGreen-0.85
K.Faried-1.35
Anthony Davis-5.14

Total Bench: $19.92

Total: $69.81 million

Faried @ $1.35M - another great value

xxplayerxx23
12-12-2012, 08:16 PM
:sad2:

jon32
12-12-2012, 08:16 PM
Pg - Ty Lawson
SG - Russel Westbrbook
SF - Lebron James
PF - Blake Griffin
C - Marc Gasol

Kenneth Faried
Chauncy Billups
Serge Ibaka
Greg Monroe
Vince Carter
Rasheed Wallace
Leandro Barbosa

with about 2 cents left over

ManRam
12-12-2012, 08:20 PM
PG: Kyrie Irving - 5.53M (rookie 1)
SG: James Harden - 5.821M (rooke 2)
SF: LeBron James - 17.545M
PF: Ryan Anderson - 8.7M
C: Marc Gasol - 13.891M

Jason Kidd - 3.09M
Ray Allen - 3.09M
Corey Brewer - 3.243M
Reggie Evans - 1.623M
Greg Monroe - 3.218M (rookie 3)
Matt Barnes - .854M
Shane Battier - 3.135M

That's a few thousand under 70 million. Might not be the best possible, but I'd love to watch them play.

JNoel
12-12-2012, 08:20 PM
Rondo/Kyrie/Cole
Tony Allen/Ray Allen
Durant/Parsons
Kevin Love/Anthony Davis/Reggie Evans
Pekovic/Jordan Hill/Blatche

With room to spare

Faneik
12-12-2012, 08:22 PM
Rondo/Kyrie/Cole
Tony Allen/Ray Allen
Durant/Parsons
Kevin Love/Anthony Davis/Reggie Evans
Pekovic/Jordan Hill/Blatche

With room to spare

how many rookie contracts?

Faneik
12-12-2012, 08:24 PM
PG: Kyrie Irving - 5.53M (rookie 1)
SG: James Harden - 5.821M (rooke 2)
SF: LeBron James - 17.545M
PF: Ryan Anderson - 8.7M
C: Marc Gasol - 13.891M

Jason Kidd - 3.09M
Ray Allen - 3.09M
Corey Brewer - 3.243M
Reggie Evans - 1.623M
Greg Monroe - 3.218M (rookie 3)
Matt Barnes - .854M
Shane Battier - 3.135M

That's a few thousand under 70 million. Might not be the best possible, but I'd love to watch them play.

good find with Matt Barnes

JNoel
12-12-2012, 08:25 PM
how many rookie contracts?

Whoops, replace Cole with CJ Watson. Kyrie, Anthony Davis, and Parsons are the rookie contacts.

topdog
12-12-2012, 08:37 PM
Starters
PG - Ricky Rubio 3.7M (R)
SG - Paul George 2.6M (R)
SF - Kevin Durant 16.7M
PF - Lebron James 17.5M
C - Deandre Jordan 10.5M

2nd Unit
PG - Jason Kidd 3.1M
SG - Ray Allen 3.0M
SF - Mike Dunleavy 3.8M
PF - Anthony Davis 5.1M (R)
C - Andre Blatche 0.9M

11 - Matt Barnes 0.9M
12 - Nate Robinson 0.9M

Total: 68.7M

topdog
12-12-2012, 08:39 PM
Whoops, replace Cole with CJ Watson. Kyrie, Anthony Davis, and Parsons are the rookie contacts.

Pek is also on his rookie contract.

JNoel
12-12-2012, 08:41 PM
Pek is also on his rookie contract.
Really? Then I'll replace Pek with Gortat.

topdog
12-12-2012, 08:42 PM
Lillard/Bledsoe/Vazquez All rookie contracts
DeRozan/George/Shumpert All rookie contracts
Lebron/Parsons Another rookie
Melo/Favors One more rookie
Varejao/Koufos

You have 8 rookie contracts...

topdog
12-12-2012, 08:48 PM
Pg-Paul-18 (rounded up)
SG-Allen-3.090.000
SF-Durant-18
PF-Lebron-18
C-Blatche 854,000

Bench
Crawford-5 mill
Shumpert-2 (rounded up)
Kidd 3,090,000
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed- 854,000
Matt Barnes 854,000
Two Minum scrubs 800,000 K
Beat that ;)

Lame! At least name those scrubs!

Pretty nice, but I think your front court is a little lacking. My bizaro Durant/Lebron have the advantage against you with DJ and Davis putting pressure on the interior and Paul George D'ing up old Ray Ray. Great minds do think alike though :cheers:

JNoel
12-12-2012, 09:05 PM
I had the best team by far...

Devils05
12-12-2012, 09:17 PM
Noah 11.1 / Blatche 0.9
Monroe 3.2 / Varejao 8.4 / Jamison 1.3
Durant 17.5 / Brewer 1.1
Harden 5.8 / Allen 3.1 / Mayo 4
Rondo 11 / Holiday 2.7

xxplayerxx23
12-12-2012, 10:07 PM
Lame! At least name those scrubs!

Pretty nice, but I think your front court is a little lacking. My bizaro Durant/Lebron have the advantage against you with DJ and Davis putting pressure on the interior and Paul George D'ing up old Ray Ray. Great minds do think alike though :cheers:

Michael Thompson and Chris Copland. Lebron Durant and Paul :drool:

Deception
12-12-2012, 10:07 PM
Chandler/Blatche
Ibaka/Millsap
LeBron/Parson
OJ Mayo/R. Allen
Rondo/Irving
(65.9M)

Dade County
12-13-2012, 12:20 AM
KD
Lbj

and fillers

Giraffes Rule
12-13-2012, 01:26 AM
Kyrie Irving (Rookie)
Ray Allen
Kawhi Leonard (Rookie)
Kevin Love
Tim Duncan

Kyle Lowry
Kenneth Faried (Rookie)
Alonzo Gee
Anderson Varejao
OJ Mayo
Ryan Anderson
Danny Green

Comes out to a little under $69 million. Probably could do better, but I like that team. I wanted Lebron, but he's expensive and I like Kyrie Irving a lot. Feel like they wouldn't play so well together for some reason.

Celtics33
12-13-2012, 02:20 AM
Kyrie Irving- 5.53M
OJ Mayo- 4.02M
Kevin Durant- 17.54M
LeBron James- 17.54M
Anthony Davis- 5.14M

Jason Kidd- 3.09M
Ray Allen- 3.09M
Jamaal Crawford- 5M
Andray Blatche- .85M
Grant Hill- 1.95M
Elton Brand 2.1M
Greg Monroe- 3.21M

Red=Rookie Contract

Heediot
12-13-2012, 08:01 AM
Chris Paul 17.8
Paul George 2.6
Kevin Durant 17.5
Blake Griffin 7.2
DeAndre Jordan 10.5
Eric Bledose 1.7
Jamal Crawford 5.0
Matt Barnes 0.9
Elton Brand 2.1
Rasheed Wallace 0.9
Chauncey Billups 3.0
Hasheem Thabeet 0.8

70 million

Heediot
12-13-2012, 08:05 AM
Starters:

Westbrook-$13.67
T.Allen-3.30
Durant-17.55
Ibaka-2.53
Chandler-13.60

Starters-50.65

Bench:

Rubio-3.71
CharlesJenkins-0.76
Harden-5.82
KlayThompson-2.29
DraymonGreen-0.85
K.Faried-1.35
Anthony Davis-5.14

Total Bench: $19.92

Total: $69.81 million

Too many rookie contracts

rapjuicer06
12-13-2012, 01:11 PM
PG: Irving/Jack
SG: Sefolosha/Redick
SF: Durant/Parsons
PF: Love/Iblockya
C: Asik/Varejao

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 01:18 PM
Chris Paul 17.8
Paul George 2.6
Kevin Durant 17.5
Blake Griffin 7.2
DeAndre Jordan 10.5
Eric Bledose 1.7
Jamal Crawford 5.0
Matt Barnes 0.9
Elton Brand 2.1
Rasheed Wallace 0.9
Chauncey Billups 3.0
Hasheem Thabeet 0.8

70 million
Why do you have like the entire Clippers lineup in your roster? For example... you have DeAndre Jordan starting at center for $10.5 million when you could easily have a much better center for similar or less money. Also, you have have Hasheem Thabeet on your roster... Really? You couldn't find a better player making $800k a year? How about Chandler freaking Parsons?

Seriously, this is one of the worst ones I've seen, because you essentially just tacked on Kevin Durant and Paul George to the Clippers roster...

Ty_Lawson
12-13-2012, 01:35 PM
Rondo 11
Thompson 2.3-R
Durant 17.6
Love 13.7
Al Horford 12
----------------=56,6
Jeff Teague 2.4-R?
C.Brewer 3.2
JR 2,8
Faried 1.3-R
Blatche 0.8
----------------=10,5
Barnes 0.8
A.Randolph 1.7
----------------=2.5
=69.6

Heediot
12-13-2012, 01:40 PM
Why do you have like the entire Clippers lineup in your roster? For example... you have DeAndre Jordan starting at center for $10.5 million when you could easily have a much better center for similar or less money. Also, you have have Hasheem Thabeet on your roster... Really? You couldn't find a better player making $800k a year? How about Chandler freaking Parsons?

Seriously, this is one of the worst ones I've seen, because you essentially just tacked on Kevin Durant and Paul George to the Clippers roster...

Obviously it's a homer team but yeah your right, the Thabeet was choice was bad lol. Aside from that, I think the chemistry is good and everyone knows their roles.

Sure Parsons may be better than Barnes at their prices, but i'm gojng homer all the way. Why would I pay my 11th man 3 mil in Billups if it wasn't? I could of made a better team, even could ofsaved money by replacing a guy like crawford for Mayo. I could of replaced Parson/Barnes, DJ for Varejao or something etc.. oh well!

Edit: I would of put Turiaf or Hollins in for Thabeet, but it would of went over 70 mil.

CB29
12-13-2012, 01:45 PM
Kyrie - 5.5
Mayo - 4
Durant - 17.5
Lebron - 17.5
Duncan - 10
Cousins - 4
Blatche - 800K
Jrue Holiday - 2.6
Jr Smith - 2.8
Jamison - 1.5
Sheed - 1.3

Adjusted for Rookie Contracts

I'm pretty sure that's less than 70 and no one is beating that team.

LongWayFromHome
12-13-2012, 01:52 PM
Kyrie Irving
O.J. Mayo
Kevin Durant
Tim Duncan
Anderson Varejao

Iman Shumpert
Ray Allen
Shawn Marion
Louis Scola
Boogie
min
min

And a couple mil to spare.

rapjuicer06
12-13-2012, 01:53 PM
Kyrie - 5.5
Mayo - 4
Durant - 17.5
Lebron - 17.5
Duncan - 10
Cousins - 4
Blatche - 800K
Kemba - 2.5
Avery Bradley - 1.6
Jamison - 1.5
Anthony Davis - 5.1

That equals exactly 70. Perfect team.

I'm pretty sure that's less than 70 and no one is beating that team.

So Kyrie/Kemba/Cousins/Davis/Bradley all on rookie contracts huh...You are DQ'd for not being able to read :(

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 02:18 PM
Here's mine....
STARTING FIVE
PG Kyrie Irving (rookie) - $5,530,080
SG Ray Allen - $3,090,000
SF Kevin Durant - $17,548,838
PF Lebron James - $17,545,000
C Tyson Chandler - $13,604,188

BENCH
PG Jason Kidd - $3,090,000
SG/SF Tony Allen - $3,300,000
SF Chandler Parsons (rookie) - $888,250
PF Kenneth Faried (rookie) - $1,348,800
PF/C Elton Brand - $2,100,000
SG/SF Matt Barnes - $854,389
C Ryan Hollins - $1,069,509

TOTAL = $69,969,054

The hardest part was finding a capable big man as the 12th guy who wasn't on a rookie contract. I could have gone with a few wings at the 12th spot, but I knew that I needed another big on my bench. Eventually, I traded Sefolosha for Allen to cut $300k, and that gave me space to add Hollins. There were a few other, better bigs that would have put me over by like $100k and I was trying my hardest not to cheat.

But I dare anyone to beat this roster. My starting five has the two best players in the NBA with arguably the best defensive center in the league, a phenomenal rookie point guard and the league's greatest sharpshooter. That starting five has floor spacing, penetrating, post play and defense. On the bench, I've got great veterans who can produce on either side of the ball with a couple of efficient, versatile young guys (Parsons, Faried) to provide energy off the bench. Brand and Kidd are steals considering how little they make and how good they are and Parsons may have the best contract in the entire NBA right now.

Giannis94
12-13-2012, 02:24 PM
Why no love for Larry Sanders?

smith&wesson
12-13-2012, 02:36 PM
lebron
durant

and 10 scrubs.

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 02:46 PM
lebron
durant

and 10 scrubs.

You don't have to throw out 10 scrubs to get under the $70 million mark. Did you see my roster?

BKLYNpigeon
12-13-2012, 03:11 PM
im not going to waste my time....

heyman321
12-13-2012, 03:13 PM
Lebron/ fill the rest with crap = probably get to the Finals.

blacknell
12-13-2012, 03:17 PM
PG.Rondo
Sg. OJ. Mayo
SF. Lebron
PF.Dirk
C.Anderson Varejao
6. Klay thompson
7.Brandon Jennings
8.JJ Hickson
9.Kenneth Faried
10.Tony Allen
11. Metta world piece
12.Matt Bonner

JiffyMix88
12-13-2012, 03:28 PM
I'll add that my head coach is Doc Rivers & my assistant coach is Thibs lol

BEAST!!!

funny you say that because when I first looked at your team I seen how other teams will easily defend you guys and my thoughts were, what a terrible team. lol

True Sports Fan
12-13-2012, 04:08 PM
PG: Steph Curry/Bledsoe
SG: OJ Mayo/Tony Allen
SF: LeBron James/Paul George/Matt Barnes
PF: Kenneth Faried/Reggie Evans/Antawn Jamison
C: Marc Gasol/DeAndre Jordan

Lucky Junior
12-13-2012, 04:09 PM
You should've said only 3 guys on "rookie contracts" not just rookies. I'm seeing a lot of 2nd and 3rd year players as if that's no the same thing as just selecting a ton of rookies. And if a guy wouldn't be ok with coming off the bench, you shouldn't be allowed to try and have him come off your fantasy bench. Kyrie coming off the pine as the #1 overall, you're crazy. Allen as the 11th man? He'd retire.

Nash (8.9)
Allen (3)
Lewis (1.3)
Nowitzki (20.9)
Gasol (19)
Kidd (3)
Lamb (2)
Hill (1.9)
Wallace (1.3)
Frye (6)
Jones III (1)
Shumpart (1.6)

$69.9

Gasol is probaby the 3rd best center in the league when allowed to play on the low block. Combined with Nash and Nowitzki and you can literally run pick and roll 9 out of every 10 plays.

Kidd coming off the bench like he does in New York and Shumpart backing him up will keep everybody fresh. All shooters surrounding the core. Wallace, Frye and Jones are all 4.5s. We're running kids out the building. And the 4 rings and 3 MVPs in the starting lineup says they'd figure out how to sustain their success throughout the post season.

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 04:24 PM
You should've said only 3 guys on "rookie contracts" not just rookies. I'm seeing a lot of 2nd and 3rd year players as if that's no the same thing as just selecting a ton of rookies. And if a guy wouldn't be ok with coming off the bench, you shouldn't be allowed to try and have him come off your fantasy bench. Kyrie coming off the pine as the #1 overall, you're crazy. Allen as the 11th man? He'd retire.

Nash (8.9)
Allen (3)
Lewis (1.3)
Nowitzki (20.9)
Gasol (19)
Kidd (3)
Lamb (2)
Hill (1.9)
Wallace (1.3)
Frye (6)
Jones III (1)
Shumpart (1.6)

$69.9

Gasol is probaby the 3rd best center in the league when allowed to play on the low block. Combined with Nash and Nowitzki and you can literally run pick and roll 9 out of every 10 plays.

Kidd coming off the bench like he does in New York and Shumpart backing him up will keep everybody fresh. All shooters surrounding the core. Wallace, Frye and Jones are all 4.5s. We're running kids out the building. And the 4 rings and 3 MVPs in the starting lineup says they'd figure out how to sustain their success throughout the post season.
Wow this team is awful. You don't even have a single top five player on your roster and you had your pick of the entire NBA. And you have maybe only two top 25 guys. Totally inexcusable. Also, you ripped the OP for not mentioning rookie contracts, but go back and look at the original post. He LITERALLY says:

Rules:
- 12 man roster
- no more than 3 rookie contracts
How is that in any way confusing?

Edit: Also, I think it's freaking hilarious that you said in your own post that Gasol is "the third best center". If you honestly believe this, why didn't you use that money on the best or second best center? That's makes absolutely no sense whatsoever...

Chi~TwnHawksFan
12-13-2012, 04:42 PM
Starters:
PG- Kyrie (5.5) Rookie
SG- Mayo (4)
SF- Lebron (17.5)
PF- Noah (11)
C- Horford (12)

Bench:
1. Tyreke (5.25) Rookie? G/SF
2. Parsons (1 For sake of numbers) Rookie SF
3. Brewer (1) G/SF
4. Evans (1.5) C
5. Hickson (4) PF
6. J.Jones (3.35) SG-SF
7. Larry Sanders (2) PF-C
2.4 Million Remaining
*rounded*

Antiam17
12-13-2012, 04:59 PM
Pg-Irving/S curry
Sg-george/J crawford
SF-LBJ/Barnes
PF-griffin/Jamison/Blatche
C-Chandler/gortat/Cousins

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 05:04 PM
Pg-Irving/S curry
Sg-george/J crawford
SF-LBJ/Barnes
PF-griffin/Jamison/Blatche
C-Chandler/gortat/Cousins

This is actually really solid for a first post. But I believe you have at least four guys still on their rookie contracts. I would insert a random veteran replacement making similar money for Cousins or Curry.

CraigInSanJose
12-13-2012, 05:06 PM
Pg Ricky Rubio $3.7 mil
Sg James Harden $5.8 mil
Sf Lebron James $17.5
Pf Blake Griffin $7.3 mil
C Marcin Gortat $7.2 mil

Pg Jarret Jack $5.6 mil
Sg Klay Thomspon $2.5 mil
Sf Kyle Korver $5 mil
Pf Carl Landry $4 mil
C Omer Asik $5 mil

Uti Tony Allen $3.3 mil
Uti Chauncy Billups $3

3 Rookie contracts
Klay
Blake
Rubio

The starting lineup and bench will score like crazy. Defense isn't a premium but tough to match these guys.

FOBolous
12-13-2012, 05:07 PM
PG - Chris Paul - $17.7 mil
SG - Tony Allen - $3.5 mil
SF - Rudy Gay - $15 mil
PF - Kevin Love - $13.6 mil
C - Anthony Davis - $5.1 mil

-Bench-

Kyrie Irving - $5.3 mil
Luis Scola - $4.1 mil
Grant Hill - $1.9 mil
Imam Shumpert - $1.6 mil
Yi Jianlian -$.7 mil
Josh Howard - $ .73 mil
Allen Iverson - %.65 mil

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 05:07 PM
Starters:
PG- Kyrie (5.5) Rookie
SG- Mayo (4)
SF- Lebron (17.5)
PF- Noah (11)
C- Horford (12)

Bench:
1. Tyreke (5.25) Rookie? G/SF
2. Parsons (1 For sake of numbers) Rookie SF
3. Brewer (1) G/SF
4. Evans (1.5) C
5. Hickson (4) PF
6. J.Jones (3.35) SG-SF
7. Larry Sanders (2) PF-C
2.4 Million Remaining
*rounded*
I'd swap Noah and Horford and Sanders is still on his rookie contract, I believe. Also, I wouldn't have touched Tyreke with a 10-foot poll. Other than that, this isn't a bad lineup. Are you by any chance a Florida Gators fan?

xxplayerxx23
12-13-2012, 05:11 PM
Paul-Ray-Durant-Lebron with Kidd and Crawford off the bench :drool:

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 05:12 PM
Pg Ricky Rubio $3.7 mil
Sg James Harden $5.8 mil
Sf Lebron James $17.5
Pf Blake Griffin $7.3 mil
C Marcin Gortat $7.2 mil

Pg Jarret Jack $5.6 mil
Sg Klay Thomspon $2.5 mil
Sf Kyle Korver $5 mil
Pf Carl Landry $4 mil
C Omer Asik $5 mil

Uti Tony Allen $3.3 mil
Uti Chauncy Billups $3

3 Rookie contracts
Klay
Blake
Rubio

The starting lineup and bench will score like crazy. Defense isn't a premium but tough to match these guys.
Harden's also on his rookie contract, but other than that, not bad. I also would have picked some more veteran guys than you did, and the defense will struggled a bit.


PG - Chris Paul - $17.7 mil
SG - Tony Allen - $3.5 mil
SF - Rudy Gay - $15 mil
PF - Kevin Love - $13.6 mil
C - Anthony Davis - $5.1 mil

-Bench-
Kyrie Irving - $5.3 mil
Luis Scola - $4.1 mil
Grant Hill - $1.9 mil
Imam Shumpert - $1.6 mil
Yi Jianlian -$.7 mil
Josh Howard - $ .73 mil
Allen Iverson - %.65 mil
C'mon Fob... You'd rather spend $15 million on Rudy guy than $17-18 million on Durant or Lebron? All you would have to do is cut some of your bench spending. I'd swap Irving or Scola for cheaper bench options.

Antiam17
12-13-2012, 05:14 PM
Yea wasnt quite sure. Have read alot of posts on this site but never signed up.

Changes...

Pg-Irving/Felton
Sg-george/crawford
SF-LBJ/Barnes
PF-griffin/Jamison/Blatche
C-chandler/gortat/Cousins

Both some offense and defense

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 05:21 PM
Paul-Ray-Durant-Lebron with Kidd and Crawford off the bench :drool:

But how are you filling out the rest of your roster? Because your front court is gonna suck if you can't get a solid defensive center with than undersized roster.

Lucky Junior
12-13-2012, 05:54 PM
Wow this team is awful. You don't even have a single top five player on your roster and you had your pick of the entire NBA. And you have maybe only two top 25 guys. Totally inexcusable. Also, you ripped the OP for not mentioning rookie contracts, but go back and look at the original post. He LITERALLY says:

How is that in any way confusing?

Edit: Also, I think it's freaking hilarious that you said in your own post that Gasol is "the third best center". If you honestly believe this, why didn't you use that money on the best or second best center? That's makes absolutely no sense whatsoever...

I obviously stayed away from the Durants and Lebrons of the world because they are the easy obvious choices. That's no fun. Now if you're actually dumb enough to say that Nash, Dirk, and Pau don't qualify as an effective core than I'm probably even dumber for explaining to you exactly how much trouble almost ALL teams would have with defending this constant pick and roll attack. The P&R would demand a constant double whether you run it with Dirk or Pau, and you'd get baked trying to help off of ANYONE on the roster.

And I didn't "rip" the OP at all. I actually thought it was a cool idea, just that he didn't make it hard enough. It's almost impossible to put together the rosters I've seen some people put together. Maybe it's just me, but reality is more fun. You shouldn't get the benefit of having a championship caliber team, and a #1 overall PG in the starting lineup.

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 06:15 PM
I obviously stayed away from the Durants and Lebrons of the world because they are the easy obvious choices. That's no fun. Now if you're actually dumb enough to say that Nash, Dirk, and Pau don't qualify as an effective core than I'm probably even dumber for explaining to you exactly how much trouble almost ALL teams would have with defending this constant pick and roll attack. The P&R would demand a constant double whether you run it with Dirk or Pau, and you'd get baked trying to help off of ANYONE on the roster.
It's not about whether or not it would be effective. You could build a ton of really talented, effective teams without Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Paul, Dwight, etc. But why not build the best possible team you can? Do you honestly think your roster would defeat my roster with a Durant, Lebron, Chandler frontcourt? No way. And clearly you were focused on offense with your roster, but how in the hell are you going to stop anybody defensively without a single above average defender in your starting five? Durant and Lebron would absolutely have their way with your team.


And I didn't "rip" the OP at all.
You said that he didn't include "rookie contracts" in the thread, but he clearly did. That's what I was referring to.


I actually thought it was a cool idea, just that he didn't make it hard enough. It's almost impossible to put together the rosters I've seen some people put together. Maybe it's just me, but reality is more fun. You shouldn't get the benefit of having a championship caliber team, and a #1 overall PG in the starting lineup.
I vaguely understand your reasoning, but this isn't an exercise in reality. This is "build the best team you can with $70 million." And if you wanted to build a team based more in reality, you should have prefaced your post that way. The way your post read, it seemed as if you honestly felt like it was the best team you could build. No competent NBA fan would think that was the best team they could build with the entire NBA at their disposal and $70 million.

bgdreton
12-13-2012, 06:47 PM
Here is my team:

Pg: Stephen curry (3.9)
Sg: Klay Thompson (1.9)
Sf LBJ (17.5)
Pf: Serge Ibaka (2.2)
C: Dwight Howard (20)

Bench:
Thabo Sefolosha (3.6)
CJ Watson (1.0)
Andray Blatche (.8)
Andre Iguodala (14.6)
Brendon Haywood (2.0)
Dominque Maguire (.8)
Rasheed Wallace (1.3)


69.5

The reason the didn't take Durant was both him and LBJ are most effective with the ball in their hands. With lebron I took top shooters with play makers around him ie klay and steph. I also picked 2 premium defenders in Thabo and AI off the bench so in case we play a team with Durant and LBJ type teams. Then I would have all five spots with top level defenders (if I take out steph and klay of course.) I would run pick and roll with LBJ and Howard with Ibaka spaced at 17 foot jumper and curry and Thompson behind the arc. This is a unstoppable team that can also play great defense. Tell me what u think? I think I also have only 3 rookie salaries, so correct me if I'm wrong.

topdog
12-13-2012, 06:54 PM
Here's mine....
STARTING FIVE
PG Kyrie Irving (rookie) - $5,530,080
SG Ray Allen - $3,090,000
SF Kevin Durant - $17,548,838
PF Lebron James - $17,545,000
C Tyson Chandler - $13,604,188

BENCH
PG Jason Kidd - $3,090,000
SG/SF Tony Allen - $3,300,000
SF Chandler Parsons (rookie) - $888,250
PF Kenneth Faried (rookie) - $1,348,800
PF/C Elton Brand - $2,100,000
SG/SF Matt Barnes - $854,389
C Ryan Hollins - $1,069,509

TOTAL = $69,969,054

But I dare anyone to beat this roster. My starting five has the two best players in the NBA with arguably the best defensive center in the league, a phenomenal rookie point guard and the league's greatest sharpshooter. That starting five has floor spacing, penetrating, post play and defense. On the bench, I've got great veterans who can produce on either side of the ball with a couple of efficient, versatile young guys (Parsons, Faried) to provide energy off the bench. Brand and Kidd are steals considering how little they make and how good they are and Parsons may have the best contract in the entire NBA right now.

I like my team better and think it could beat yours. I also went with Lebron and Durant - they played great together on Team USA. I decided Rubio would be a good PG with them because of his defense, unselfishness and fairly good 3pt shooting. Paul George is coming into his own and is another long defender and capable shooter who I believe can shut down an aging Ray Allen. DJ isn't the greatest center but he can get up high to block shots and becomes more dangerous offensively with Ricky Rubio. Every one of the starters can get up and down the floor in no time flat.

Ray Ray does have a great contract for what he brings and that's why he comes off of my bench. I had the other Allen at first, but switched once I brought another contract steal in Kidd on board. Dunleavy was a natural cheap addition to help space the floor and make room for already amazing Anthony Davis and born again Andre Blatche.

Finally, Barnes serves as a defensive substitute for Dunleavy and Nate Robinson is that nice 12th option for when things need a change of pace to put the opponent on their heels.


Starters
PG - Ricky Rubio 3.7M (R)
SG - Paul George 2.6M (R)
SF - Kevin Durant 16.7M
PF - Lebron James 17.5M
C - Deandre Jordan 10.5M

2nd Unit
PG - Jason Kidd 3.1M
SG - Ray Allen 3.0M
SF - Mike Dunleavy 3.8M
PF - Anthony Davis 5.1M (R)
C - Andre Blatche 0.9M

11 - Matt Barnes 0.9M
12 - Nate Robinson 0.9M

Total: 68.7M

bgdreton
12-13-2012, 07:10 PM
I like my team better and think it could beat yours. I also went with Lebron and Durant - they played great together on Team USA. I decided Rubio would be a good PG with them because of his defense, unselfishness and fairly good 3pt shooting. Paul George is coming into his own and is another long defender and capable shooter who I believe can shut down an aging Ray Allen. DJ isn't the greatest center but he can get up high to block shots and becomes more dangerous offensively with Ricky Rubio. Every one of the starters can get up and down the floor in no time flat.

Ray Ray does have a great contract for what he brings and that's why he comes off of my bench. I had the other Allen at first, but switched once I brought another contract steal in Kidd on board. Dunleavy was a natural cheap addition to help space the floor and make room for already amazing Anthony Davis and born again Andre Blatche.

Finally, Barnes serves as a defensive substitute for Dunleavy and Nate Robinson is that nice 12th option for when things need a change of pace to put the opponent on their heels.

What do you think about my team vs yours?

Raidaz4Life
12-13-2012, 07:46 PM
PG: Mike Conley (7.1)
SG: Arron Afflalo (7.5)
SF: Kevin Durant (17.5)
PF: Ryan Anderson (8.7)
C: Omer Asik (5)


Bench
PG: Eric Bledsoe (1.7 rookie contract)
SG: JR Smith (2.8)
SF: Chandler Parsons (.8 rookie contract)
PF: Andrei Kirilenko (9.7)
C: Serge Ibaka (2.2 rookie contract)

11th man Matt Barnes (.8)
12th man Jordan Hill (3.5)



First unit has an emphasis on D and efficient offense

Second unit keeps up the defensive intensity while looking to turn up the tempo.

Barnes and Hill are there for the hustle plays. Good hard fouls, loose balls, offensive boards, etc.



I did my best to avoid big names and focused on chemistry and allowing players to thrive in a role. No ego's just good hard basketball.

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 07:49 PM
I like my team better and think it could beat yours. I also went with Lebron and Durant - they played great together on Team USA. I decided Rubio would be a good PG with them because of his defense, unselfishness and fairly good 3pt shooting. Paul George is coming into his own and is another long defender and capable shooter who I believe can shut down an aging Ray Allen. DJ isn't the greatest center but he can get up high to block shots and becomes more dangerous offensively with Ricky Rubio. Every one of the starters can get up and down the floor in no time flat.
Except that Rubio isn't a great perimeter shooter and that's what you need next to playmakers like Lebron and Durant. Meanwhile, Irving is a superior 3-point shooter and scorer, as is Allen to George. Defensively, your back court is better, but my starting five more than makes up for it with the reigning DPOY at center. Also, Chandler, Irving and Allen are superior in terms of offensive efficiency. And my team has far more veteran and championship experience.


Dunleavy was a natural cheap addition to help space the floor and make room for already amazing Anthony Davis and born again Andre Blatche.
Meh. I'd rather have a veteran, versatile point guard like Kidd running my offense off the bench. Also, Elton Brand is a phenomenal defensive presence off the bench for next to nothing, and I'd rather have Chandler Parsons over Dunleavy. Davis was a nice pickup, but he's still really raw at this point. And I liked having Parsons and Faried off the bench, and it freed up enough money to get Allen and Kidd.

Finally, Barnes serves as a defensive substitute for Dunleavy and Nate Robinson is that nice 12th option for when things need a change of pace to put the opponent on their heels.[/QUOTE]

topdog
12-13-2012, 07:56 PM
What do you think about my team vs yours?


Here is my team:

Pg: Stephen curry (3.9)
Sg: Klay Thompson (1.9)
Sf LBJ (17.5)
Pf: Serge Ibaka (2.2)
C: Dwight Howard (20)

Bench:
Thabo Sefolosha (3.6)
CJ Watson (1.0)
Andray Blatche (.8)
Andre Iguodala (14.6)
Brendon Haywood (2.0)
Dominque Maguire (.8)
Rasheed Wallace (1.3)


69.5

The reason the didn't take Durant was both him and LBJ are most effective with the ball in their hands. With lebron I took top shooters with play makers around him ie klay and steph. I also picked 2 premium defenders in Thabo and AI off the bench so in case we play a team with Durant and LBJ type teams. Then I would have all five spots with top level defenders (if I take out steph and klay of course.) I would run pick and roll with LBJ and Howard with Ibaka spaced at 17 foot jumper and curry and Thompson behind the arc. This is a unstoppable team that can also play great defense. Tell me what u think? I think I also have only 3 rookie salaries, so correct me if I'm wrong.

In my biased opinion, I think George and Rubio can limit Curry and Thompson with their length and defense while producing more offensively against your relatively weak perimeter defense. Your James beats my Durant in the head-to-head. My James gets Ibaka into foul trouble. Dwight versus DJ probably isn't pretty and I'd say D12 probably gets the better of the matchup except that Rubio and George can get past the first line of defense, draw Howard or Ibaka up and dish to Lebron or DJ inside for an easy 2.

While you do have a good number of defenders, I feel like you lose too much offense when you bring them in. Also, Sheed is a nice choice at the stretch 4, but by me playing Lebron at the 4 it's not a hard cover. I feel like your team definitely is built around getting the most out of Lebron and would be successful against regular NBA teams, but doesn't have enough balance in this exercise where everyone can have Lebron +.

Finally, while there is a decent argument about top players playing better with the ball in their hands, Durant is a good spot-up 3 point shooter and Lebron benefits like anyone else from a PG setting him up either in motion or with deep position which Rubio's handle and vision can provide.

topdog
12-13-2012, 08:13 PM
Except that Rubio isn't a great perimeter shooter and that's what you need next to playmakers like Lebron and Durant. Meanwhile, Irving is a superior 3-point shooter and scorer, as is Allen to George. Defensively, your back court is better, but my starting five more than makes up for it with the reigning DPOY at center. Also, Chandler, Irving and Allen are superior in terms of offensive efficiency. And my team has far more veteran and championship experience.

Meh. I'd rather have a veteran, versatile point guard like Kidd running my offense off the bench. Also, Elton Brand is a phenomenal defensive presence off the bench for next to nothing, and I'd rather have Chandler Parsons over Dunleavy. Davis was a nice pickup, but he's still really raw at this point. And I liked having Parsons and Faried off the bench, and it freed up enough money to get Allen and Kidd.

Rubio is a decent 3pt shooter at 34% with the greater value in him being his passing and defense. He can set up both 'Bron and Durant in good positions and Durant (43%) and George (41%) are both very good 3pt shooters. The Rubio-Irving matchup has only happened once and the results were mixed with Irving scoring 4 more points but with 4 more TOs.

I also have Ray and Kidd but off of the bench with Dunleavy (another 42% 3pt shooter). Davis is already scoring 15pts. on a good shooting percentage and a 10pt positive difference between offensive and defensive ratings despite being on a 5 win team. Brand's defensive rating is one point better than Davis but is a negative in o to d differential. Parsons is a nice player but George, Rubio and Davis all are better players for the money.

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 08:41 PM
Rubio is a decent 3pt shooter at 34% with the greater value in him being his passing and defense. He can set up both 'Bron and Durant in good positions and Durant (43%) and George (41%) are both very good 3pt shooters. The Rubio-Irving matchup has only happened once and the results were mixed with Irving scoring 4 more points but with 4 more TOs.
The problem with this is that it doesn't matter how good of a passer Rubio is, because Lebron should be the guy running the offense. It's the same reason Chalmers works so well in Miami, because he doesn't have to run the offense or have the ball in his hand. Also, 34 percent is about average to slightly below average, while Allen is arguably the greatest 3-point shooter in the history of the game. As for regular season head-to-head matchups, I don't take it seriously unless it's a much larger sample size. Bottom line, Kyrie Irving is the better basketball player and he's a better fit next to Lebron and Durant than Rubio is.


I also have Ray and Kidd but off of the bench with Dunleavy (another 42% 3pt shooter).
I also have Tony Allen (the best perimeter defender in the NBA) off the bench and Chandler Parsons, who is essentially on par with George. Look at George and Parsons' numbers and you'll see that they're remarkably similar despite George being in the league a year longer. Also, let's not forget rebounding machine Kenneth Faried.


Davis is already scoring 15pts. on a good shooting percentage and a 10pt positive difference between offensive and defensive ratings despite being on a 5 win team. Brand's defensive rating is one point better than Davis but is a negative in o to d differential.
First off, throw offensive rating and defensive rating out the window, especially when you're talking about such a small sample size as Davis has had. They've both great defenders, but Brand has been doing it for over a decade and Davis has been doing it for all of five seconds. Davis clearly has the edge offensively, but I have a huge advantage in my starting five from Chandler to DJ that it doesn't matter that much. Also, how would you plan to stagger your minutes? Because I plan to get Chandler 30 MPG, so Davis' advantage over Brand will be minimal at best.


Parsons is a nice player but George, Rubio and Davis all are better players for the money.
False. Parsons makes less than $900k a year, which means he provides far more value than the other three guys in terms of bang for his buck. And having his insanely awesome contract means I was able to afford a much better PG (Irving) and C (Chandler), while hardly sacrificing much in terms of the drop from George to Parsons.

In terms of starting five, I beat you handily in two of five positions and my bench is maybe only slightly worse than yours because of Davis. But you also don't have a perimeter defender off your bench as good as Allen. Also, my team has more veteran leadership, a superior defense and more championship/postseason experience than yours does.

FOBolous
12-13-2012, 09:14 PM
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Wesley Matthews
SF - Nicolas Batum
PF - Kevin Love
C - Dwight Howard

- Bench -
Kyrie Irving
Ray Allen
Imam Shimpert
Anthony Davis
Dejuan Blair
and 2 of the lowest paid player in the nba @ 7k

total: 69 million

NO team is better than this team. this team will flatout dominate. even my bench will dominate most starting 5 in the nba

bgdreton
12-13-2012, 09:18 PM
In my biased opinion, I think George and Rubio can limit Curry and Thompson with their length and defense while producing more offensively against your relatively weak perimeter defense. Your James beats my Durant in the head-to-head. My James gets Ibaka into foul trouble. Dwight versus DJ probably isn't pretty and I'd say D12 probably gets the better of the matchup except that Rubio and George can get past the first line of defense, draw Howard or Ibaka up and dish to Lebron or DJ inside for an easy 2.

While you do have a good number of defenders, I feel like you lose too much offense when you bring them in. Also, Sheed is a nice choice at the stretch 4, but by me playing Lebron at the 4 it's not a hard cover. I feel like your team definitely is built around getting the most out of Lebron and would be successful against regular NBA teams, but doesn't have enough balance in this exercise where everyone can have Lebron +.

Finally, while there is a decent argument about top players playing better with the ball in their hands, Durant is a good spot-up 3 point shooter and Lebron benefits like anyone else from a PG setting him up either in motion or with deep position which Rubio's handle and vision can provide.

Nice outlook on the teams. So what if I put lebron at the 4 and bring in andre Iguodala at the 3 then Durant will have a tougher time to score because of the strengh of AI he won't stop him but he can make it harder. Your team will also have a tough time rebounding with Howard in the middle. DJ is overrated and doesn't rebound that well typically. Rubio won't have that easy of time playing against Thabo bc of his length. Rubio isn't that great of shooter anyway. Furthermore Paul George is hit or miss for me but a nice player offensively it would be difficult for u ur team to score consistently. On offense Thabo sits at 3 point like curry would and AI could take Durant off the dribble bc Durant is not a great defender. What u have to understand is defensively it's not one one. Its a team game. The only way you can contest thompsons shot is off a drive and kick and George doesn't help on the drive. It's a double edge sword with lebron Howard roll. And with AI, Thabo, lebron, klay I would switch all screens so the pick and roll game would be mute. I probably have the most versitle team even Ibaka can play some smaller player in the past.

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 09:21 PM
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Wesley Matthews
SF - Nicolas Batum
PF - Kevin Love
C - Dwight Howard

- Bench -
Kyrie Irving
Ray Allen
Imam Shimpert
Anthony Davis
Dejuan Blair
and 2 of the lowest paid player in the nba @ 7k

total: 69 million

NO team is better than this team. this team will flatout dominate. even my bench will dominate most starting 5 in the nba
Meh.... Your wings are pretty mediocre. Also, you have four guys on their rookie contracts: Irving, Shumpert, Davis and Blair. And you have little to no championship experience on your roster. My roster has the two best players in the NBA, multiple rings, DPOYs, HOFs, veterans, etc. Also, why have Irving come off the bench? How many minutes is he honestly going to get behind Paul? You could play him at SG, but he'll get exposed defensively against longer 2-guards. It makes no sense to waste a player of Irving's talent on the bench behind your best player.

FOBolous
12-13-2012, 09:38 PM
Meh.... Your wings are pretty mediocre. Also, you have four guys on their rookie contracts: Irving, Shumpert, Davis and Blair. And you have little to no championship experience on your roster. My roster has the two best players in the NBA, multiple rings, DPOYs, HOFs, veterans, etc. Also, why have Irving come off the bench? How many minutes is he honestly going to get behind Paul? You could play him at SG, but hqe'll get exposed defensively against longer 2-guards. It makes no sense to waste a player of Irving's talent on the bench behind your best player.

my wings are good defenders (ea. avg close to 2 stls a game) that are able to spread the floor with their solid 3 pts shooting and can score in bunches if they want. they compliment cp3, love, and d12 well.

and who cares if my players are on their rookie contract, the point is to make the best team possible within 70k and my team meets the criteria.

and all these things about awards and experience is overrated. my players are young...who's to say they don't have the talent to win the awards your players won?

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 09:51 PM
my wings are good defenders (ea. avg close to 2 stls a game) that are able to spread the floor with their solid 3 pts shooting and can score in bunches if they want. they compliment cp3, love, and d12 well.
I have Lebron and Durant. Check and mate.


and who cares if my players are on their rookie contract, the point is to make the best team possible within 70k and my team meets the criteria.
Dude... Look at the OP's post. Based on the rules of the thread, you're allowed three players on their rookie contracts.


and all these things about awards and experience is overrated. my players are young...who's to say they don't have the talent to win the awards your players won?
It's called potential vs. reality. In reality, I have one of the best players in the history of the NBA and a 3-time MVP as well as the undisputed two best players in the league and the reigning DPOY. And three of my starters have won rings while four of five have been in the finals.

Also, if you really wanted to maximize your talent, you wouldn't have gotten Irving on your bench, you would have used that salary to improve at starting SG or SF. It just doesn't make sense to have one of your four best players backing up your best player.

bgdreton
12-13-2012, 10:05 PM
my wings are good defenders (ea. avg close to 2 stls a game) that are able to spread the floor with their solid 3 pts shooting and can score in bunches if they want. they compliment cp3, love, and d12 well.

and who cares if my players are on their rookie contract, the point is to make the best team possible within 70k and my team meets the criteria.

and all these things about awards and experience is overrated. my players are young...who's to say they don't have the talent to win the awards your players won?

You know this forum said max 3 rookie contracts thats y people care and your team would beat mine at all. Not even on my weakest day

roshan3ai
12-13-2012, 10:22 PM
C: Marc Gasol | Greg Monroe | Rasheed Wallace
PF: Kevin Love | Elton Brand | Rasheed Wallace
SF: Lebron James | Paul George
SG: Tony Allen | OJ Mayo | Jason Kidd
PG: Kyrie Irving | Jason Kidd | Gary Neal

mightybosstone
12-13-2012, 10:46 PM
C: Marc Gasol | Greg Monroe | Rasheed Wallace
PF: Kevin Love | Elton Brand | Rasheed Wallace
SF: Lebron James | Paul George
SG: Tony Allen | OJ Mayo | Jason Kidd
PG: Kyrie Irving | Jason Kidd | Gary Neal

Again, this is a very solid team, but I think there are actually five guys on their rookie contracts on this roster: Irving, Mayo, George, Monroe, Neal. If not, I certainly would have added Monroe or Neal to my bench.

Raps08-09 Champ
12-13-2012, 10:53 PM
C-Duncan
PF-Davis
SF-Lebron
SG-Mayo
PG-Lowry

Raps08-09 Champ
12-13-2012, 10:53 PM
Again, this is a very solid team, but I think there are actually five guys on their rookie contracts on this roster: Irving, Mayo, George, Monroe, Neal. If not, I certainly would have added Monroe or Neal to my bench.

Mayo isn't on his rookie deal. He just signed a small deal this offseason.

roshan3ai
12-13-2012, 11:06 PM
Again, this is a very solid team, but I think there are actually five guys on their rookie contracts on this roster: Irving, Mayo, George, Monroe, Neal. If not, I certainly would have added Monroe or Neal to my bench.
Mayo definitely isn't. Neal may be though. My mistake

Chi~TwnHawksFan
12-13-2012, 11:10 PM
I'd swap Noah and Horford and Sanders is still on his rookie contract, I believe. Also, I wouldn't have touched Tyreke with a 10-foot poll. Other than that, this isn't a bad lineup. Are you by any chance a Florida Gators fan?

not gonna lie, i LOVED their team when Noah Horford was there

dhopisthename
12-13-2012, 11:21 PM
PG:Kyle Lowry(5.8 mill)/Jason Kidd(3.1 mill)
SG:OJ Mayo(4 mill)/Danny Green(3.5)/Dionte Christmas(.2)
Sf:Lebron(17.5 mill)/Kawhi Leonard(1.9 mill)
PF:Griffin(7.3 mill)/Kenneth Faried(1.3)/Matt Bonner(4)
C: Duncan(9.6 mill)/Al Horford(12)

Thought I would add some different guys

mightybosstone
12-14-2012, 12:03 AM
PG:Kyle Lowry(5.8 mill)/Jason Kidd(3.1 mill)
SG:OJ Mayo(4 mill)/Danny Green(3.5)/Dionte Christmas(.2)
Sf:Lebron(17.5 mill)/Kawhi Leonard(1.9 mill)
PF:Griffin(7.3 mill)/Kenneth Faried(1.3)/Matt Bonner(4)
C: Duncan(9.6 mill)/Al Horford(12)

Thought I would add some different guys

I didn't realize Duncan was so cheap. I think I'm going to change up my roster now. Also, I don't think Christmas should count since the Celtics waived him. But I do like to see Lowry get some love.

mightybosstone
12-14-2012, 12:10 AM
(Updated)
STARTING FIVE
PG Kyrie Irving (rookie) - $5,530,080
SG Ray Allen - $3,090,000
SF Kevin Durant - $17,548,838
PF Lebron James - $17,545,000
C Tim Duncan - $9,638,554

BENCH
PG Jason Kidd - $3,090,000
SG/SF Tony Allen - $3,300,000
SF Chandler Parsons (rookie) - $888,250
PF/C Anthony Davis (rookie) - $5,144,280
PF/C Elton Brand - $2,100,000
SG/SF Matt Barnes - $854,389
C Ryan Hollins - $1,069,509

TOTAL = $69,798,900

This updated roster swaps Chandler for Duncan to provide more of an offensive presence at center, while not dropping off significant defensively. It also provides enough cap leeway to swap out Faried for Davis. I honestly don't think anyone can beat this roster.

FOBolous
12-14-2012, 02:41 AM
I have Lebron and Durant. Check and mate.

so? i have the best PG in the league, arguably the best PF, and the best C. your point?


Dude... Look at the OP's post. Based on the rules of the thread, you're allowed three players on their rookie contracts.

oh my bad. switch out Kyrie Irving with Chauncey Billups then.


It's called potential vs. reality. In reality, I have one of the best players in the history of the NBA and a 3-time MVP as well as the undisputed two best players in the league and the reigning DPOY. And three of my starters have won rings while four of five have been in the finals

nope. it's call reality. and reality is...talent + chemistry wins games...not accolades. putting together a whole bunch of players with tons of accolades doesnt guaranttee you a good team...even if the players with accolades have "championship experience." case and point: LA Lakers. And you act like a young, talented, upstart team with no experience and very little accolades never beaten a team with experience AND accolades before. case and point: OKC Thunders last year...they went through THREE teams FILLED with MVPs and championship experiences before they reached the Heat in the finals.

fact of the matter is...my team is filled with young, talented, athletic players who style of play compliments each other very well...paired with role players with little egos that are good on both ends of the players whose skill sets compliments my star players


Also, if you really wanted to maximize your talent, you wouldn't have gotten Irving on your bench, you would have used that salary to improve at starting SG or SF. It just doesn't make sense to have one of your four best players backing up your best player.

Wesley Matthews and Batum are VERY good players who just doesnt have the name recognition that players like Ray Allen has. At the current stage of their careers, both Matthews and Batum are better players than Ray Allen. They can spot up as well as Allen, can defend better than Allen, run the floor better then Allen, AND are more athletic than Allen.

mightybosstone
12-14-2012, 03:07 AM
so? i have the best PG in the league, arguably the best PF, and the best C. your point?
Lebron and Durant are the two best players in the world, and I'm not sure this is debatable. Also, there isn't a chance in hell that your team would be able to guard Lebron and Durant, whereas my squad could feasibly defend yours.


nope. it's call reality. and reality is...talent + chemistry wins games...not accolades.
Oh okay.... Well, then I just combined the two best players from the team that just dominated the world at the Olympics. That's talent + chemistry for you.


putting together a whole bunch of players with tons of accolades doesnt guaranttee you a good team...even if the players with accolades have "championship experience." case and point: LA Lakers.
The Lakers are the exception to the rule, and I would argue that there are a number of reasons why that team doesn't work. But you couldn't argue that on a team with Lebron and Durant. They would be a much better compliment for one another than Lebron and Wade, and they would absolutely destroy the rest of the league.


And you act like a young, talented, upstart team with no experience and very little accolades never beaten a team with experience AND accolades before. case and point: OKC Thunders last year...they went through THREE teams FILLED with MVPs and championship experiences before they reached the Heat in the finals.
You know you just made my argument for me, right? Which two teams were in the NBA Finals last year? Heat and Thunder. Who were clearly the two best players on those teams? Lebron and Durant. Who are clearly the two best players in the world over the last two years? Lebron and Durant.


fact of the matter is...my team is filled with young, talented, athletic players who style of play compliments each other very well...paired with role players with little egos that are good on both ends of the players whose skill sets compliments my star players
What's your point? So does mine. Lebron likes to control the ball and find ways to set up open shooters on the outside or look for creative ways to get guys the ball as they move to the basket. Durant is a phenomenal shooter and has learned to play without the ball in the same lineup as Westbrook. Duncan/Chandler plays the role of the rim protector and post scorer while Allen hits the wide open set shots and Irving plays the No. 3 who can create for himself, run the offense to get Lebron and Durant looks going to the basket or hit set shots.


Wesley Matthews and Batum are VERY good players who just doesnt have the name recognition that players like Ray Allen has. At the current stage of their careers, both Matthews and Batum are better players than Ray Allen. They can spot up as well as Allen, can defend better than Allen, run the floor better then Allen, AND are more athletic than Allen.
Now I could see your point of view up to this point, but I disagree with almost everything in this paragraph. I do agree that Matthews and Batum are better defenders and more athletic than Allen. But everything else you're wrong about. They are not VERY good players, they are above average starters for their positions who will never see an All-Star game. They also don't come anywhere close to Allen in terms of spot shooting and you should know better than that if you've watched the NBA over the last 15 years. The dude is untouchable in that category.

Also, if you want to talk about guys who play a perfect role... There is not a better wide open spot shooter in the NBA than Ray Allen. There's a reason why he's shooting nearly 50% from 3s this season, and it's because Lebron does a phenomenal job of finding open guys on the perimeter. Also, my bench has guys who can step up and are nearly as talented as Batum or Matthews, like Chandler Parsons.

I'm not trying to knock your roster, but I think it makes no sense to have $70 million and not try to get one of the two best players in the whole world when they both only make $17 million. Your team would be phenomenal, but mind would be better. Batum and Love would get crushed by Durant and Lebron, whereas your frontcourt won't have nearly the advantage you'd like going up against Lebron and Chandler/Duncan.

tallboy12321
12-14-2012, 05:19 AM
PG: Kyrie Irving: 5.375 (Rookie Contract)
SG: Klay Thompson: 2.22 (Rookie Contract)
SF: Kevin Durant: 17.548
PF: Lebron James:17.545m
C: Anderson Varajao:8.4m

Bench:

Ray Allen: 3.090m
Serge Ibaka: 2.253m (Rookie Contract)
Carl Landry: 4.000m
Nate Robinson: 1.14m
Tony Allen: 3.3m
Patty Mills: 1.09m
Greg Stiemsma: 2.5


:speechless::speechless::speechless:

KG21
12-14-2012, 06:47 AM
Howard/ Sanders
Ibaka/ Favors
LeBron/ Brewer
T. Allen/ Ray Allen
Rondo/ Billups

Defense = Championships

Best Team on the planet!!!

Even 2nd unit is beating!
Been looking for other picks and they don't come close.

cubs1st
12-14-2012, 07:19 AM
Cp3 17.779457
Lebron 17.545
Love 13.66875
A. Davis 5.14428
JR Smith 2.806452

Brand 2.1
Marshon Brooks 1.19328
Barnes 2.79804
Ronnie Brewer 1.069509
Watson .99268
Brendan Haywood 2
BJ Mullens 2.256061

Total: 69.35 M

cubs1st
12-14-2012, 07:26 AM
(Updated)
STARTING FIVE
PG Kyrie Irving (rookie) - $5,530,080
SG Ray Allen - $3,090,000
SF Kevin Durant - $17,548,838
PF Lebron James - $17,545,000
C Tim Duncan - $9,638,554

BENCH
PG Jason Kidd - $3,090,000
SG/SF Tony Allen - $3,300,000
SF Chandler Parsons (rookie) - $888,250
PF/C Anthony Davis (rookie) - $5,144,280
PF/C Elton Brand - $2,100,000
SG/SF Matt Barnes - $854,389
C Ryan Hollins - $1,069,509

TOTAL = $69,798,900

This updated roster swaps Chandler for Duncan to provide more of an offensive presence at center, while not dropping off significant defensively. It also provides enough cap leeway to swap out Faried for Davis. I honestly don't think anyone can beat this roster.

That's a great team. Pairing LeBron and Durant make a nearly unstoppable duo. My only holdup would be Kyrie- he seems too injury prone to hold up to the rigors of the NBA schedule.

mightybosstone
12-14-2012, 11:33 AM
Best Team on the planet!!!

Even 2nd unit is beating!
Been looking for other picks and they don't come close.
Meh.... It's obviously good defensively, but you don't need that much defense in a starting five. And he's essentially sacrificing floor spacing and offense in general to try to get five great defenders on the floor. Offensively, that would team would struggle against some of the other teams listed.

That's a great team. Pairing LeBron and Durant make a nearly unstoppable duo. My only holdup would be Kyrie- he seems too injury prone to hold up to the rigors of the NBA schedule.
Yeah, I thought about using Lowry instead of Irving, but he's also really injury prone. Plus, money is extremely tight doing this, so if I had Lowry, I'd have to seriously downgrade somewhere else.

Lab Rat Robby
12-14-2012, 02:12 PM
ibaka sheed hawes
davis brand
lebron battier
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paul dragic