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JasonJohnHorn
12-11-2012, 04:13 PM
The Lakers are currently 3 games under .500 and there are ten teams in the West alone with better records than the Lakers (not to mention Portland who has the same record). Wish Nash out two more weeks at least, Blake out two more months at least, and Pau... who knows how long he's going to be out and if he's ever even going to suit up with the Lakers again, it's hard to say when the Lakers will be at full force. Certainly no sooner than January, and then Nash still has to work his way into the system (he hasn't had much time with these guys).

What is LA's record going to be by then? Sure, they'll likely beat the Cavs and Wizards (though I wouldn't put money on it), but that won't even get them to .500! Before December is up they will have played two games with the Knicks, neither of which I expect them to win considering how they've faired against some sub-.500 teams, and games against the 76ers and Warriors. The Lakers will likely be between 3-6 games under .500 when January rolls around.

The Lakers have one of the most talented rosters the league has ever seen on paper, but health issues are going to keep them from putting their best porduct on the floor at least until January, and by that time the 10 teams that have records better than LA, will have time to put more distance between themselves and the Lakers, meaning the second half of the season the Lakers will not only have to play .500 ball, but they'll have to play better than that just to catch up to the other western conference playoff teams.


Are the Lakers in serious jeopardy of missing the playoffs?


And please note, I did not point that finger at any one person, be it player or coach, and nor did I intentionally leave the letter "D" out of anybody's name ;-)

Hellcrooner
12-11-2012, 04:14 PM
lol, of course.

SteBO
12-11-2012, 04:16 PM
:laugh:

Dude, it's freakin' December. I couldn't care less what their record is now, no team with Nash, Kobe, Pau, and Dwight on it is missing the playoffs.

CityofTreez
12-11-2012, 04:22 PM
This poster, JasonJohnHorn, may be a good NBA forum poster and all, but how hilarious are his threads. Trying to light a fire under the Lakers because "JJH" said so...

Keep it up Champ!

greg_ory_2005
12-11-2012, 04:23 PM
Yep.

QueensG_718
12-11-2012, 04:25 PM
Doubt it

Tymathee
12-11-2012, 04:27 PM
it would be weird if they don't. the Lakers have only missed the playoffs 5 times in their whole history and only once did they not make it in back to back years.

thats in 64 years.

thats insane.

http://www.nba.com/lakers/history/year_by_year.html

b@llhog24
12-11-2012, 04:29 PM
No.

Ebbs
12-11-2012, 04:32 PM
Ahahaha

I guess there really a large clueless lot on psd.

Lakers will be in the playoffs.

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-11-2012, 04:32 PM
Gawd no.

ManRam
12-11-2012, 04:33 PM
Absolutely.

I'd bet my firstborn on this.

ROY 2 MVP Braun
12-11-2012, 04:36 PM
Absolutely.

I'd bet my firstborn on this.

well ur womans gonna have a miscarrige bc theyre making it!

Heediot
12-11-2012, 04:37 PM
Enough with these redundant threads!

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-11-2012, 04:44 PM
well ur womans gonna have a miscarrige bc theyre making it!

What an ignorant idiotic comment.

amos1er
12-11-2012, 04:46 PM
I voted yes, but I'm honestly not too sure. Jim Buss really ****ed us over with his arrogance. Only a fool with a grudge would hire D'Antoni over Phil Jackson. And only a fool would deny that fact.

DoMeFavors
12-11-2012, 04:52 PM
I honestly dont think they make it, they were awful fully healthy in pre season with Nash. But even if they do make it they will face a top team with home court and probably be a 1st round exit.

8kobe24
12-11-2012, 04:55 PM
well ur womans gonna have a miscarrige bc theyre making it!

wow. u 12?

mamba24
12-11-2012, 04:55 PM
I voted yes, but I'm honestly not too sure. Jim Buss really ****ed us over with his arrogance. Only a fool with a grudge would hire D'Antoni over Phil Jackson. And only a fool would deny that fact.

It's pretty common knowledge and has been widely reported that Dr. Buss hired D'Antoni... Not Jim Buss...

xILLN355
12-11-2012, 04:55 PM
voted gawd no cause it sounded cool. they'll make it in

8kobe24
12-11-2012, 04:56 PM
I honestly dont think they make it, they were awful fully healthy in pre season with Nash. But even if they do make it they will face a top team with home court and probably be a 1st round exit.

:facepalm:

hidalgo
12-11-2012, 04:59 PM
they'll easily make it, they're stacked

amos1er
12-11-2012, 05:07 PM
It's pretty common knowledge and has been widely reported that Dr. Buss hired D'Antoni... Not Jim Buss...

I guess that you just believe everything you read than??? :rolleyes:

You don't think for one moment that daddy just took that bullet in order to protect his little Jimmy from the scrutiny of the media and the fans. It's called reading between the lines buddy and you should learn how to do it because if you are just going to believe everything everybody tells you in life than I have some property in Chernobyl I would like to sell you.

Take a look at this vid of Magic himself outing Jim and squashing that lame attempt at protecting Jim Buss from his own arrogance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE6uPJ5ucm0

NoahH
12-11-2012, 05:13 PM
Obviously theyll make it in

Jumi
12-11-2012, 05:14 PM
I'm not sure. They should've feasted on this part of the schedule. The slate of games they have coming up in January will be brutal! That will make or break their season!

JNoel
12-11-2012, 05:18 PM
The west is too weak, they won't make it obviously.

Avenged
12-11-2012, 05:21 PM
Hard to go against a team consisting of Kobe and Dwight...

Then add Pau and Nash when they return.. It would the biggest team bust ever if they fail to make the playoffs.

nickdymez
12-11-2012, 05:22 PM
I voted no because december is the perfect time to tell whether or not an NBA team will make the playoffs....

dnewguy
12-11-2012, 05:33 PM
Only a fool will actually think a team with Kobe and D Howard wont make the play-offs. Just watch them go on winning streaks after All-Star. I predict they will be in top 4 when it's all said and done.

SportsFanatic10
12-11-2012, 06:13 PM
Are the Lakers in serious jeopardy of missing the playoffs?

lol really? serious jeopardy? it's ****in mid december!

justinnum1
12-11-2012, 06:18 PM
to hard to say. they are awful. How a team with 2 top 10 players is below .500 is pretty sad.

there defense is atrocious and getting nash back wont help.

Sneaky
12-11-2012, 06:33 PM
Of coarshe. *Bane voice*

JasonJohnHorn
12-11-2012, 06:34 PM
:laugh:

Dude, it's freakin' December. I couldn't care less what their record is now, no team with Nash, Kobe, Pau, and Dwight on it is missing the playoffs.

If I had asked, on the first day of training camp: Will the Lakers be below .500 when January starts, the response would have been: "No team with Nash, Kobe, Pua and Dwight on it is going to be below .500 two months into the season."

Yet, low and behold, that team is below .500

There have been very talented teams miss the playoffs due to chemistry and coaching issues. One need look no further than the 94.95 Warriors:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/1995.html

They had Sprewell, Mullin and Hardaway and Seilkaly at center and Tom Googs and Gatling and Marshall, and somehow they only managed to win 26 games!

So yeah... very talented teams can lose a lot of games. Let's not pretend that at this point it is out of the question. The Lakers are tied for 11th in the West right now.

b-ballistic
12-11-2012, 09:19 PM
It's getting worse. They're down by fifteen at the half to a lowly Cleveland club............:facepalm:

Raps18-19 Champ
12-11-2012, 09:29 PM
I voted yes, but I'm honestly not too sure. Jim Buss really ****ed us over with his arrogance. Only a fool with a grudge would hire D'Antoni over Phil Jackson. And only a fool would deny that fact.

So you think the Lakers will miss the playoffs?

Raps18-19 Champ
12-11-2012, 09:30 PM
Did anyone else but me notice that the thread question and the poll question ask 2 different things?

kdspurman
12-11-2012, 09:43 PM
I think it's a legitimate concern, because the West has so many playoff quality teams. It's hard to fathom that team NOT making it, but it's not out of the question.

I think there's a chance they do in all honesty, and I don't mean that to troll. There's an unfair amount of pressure on Nash to come in an make everything better, but I don't think that'll resolve all the issues.

The defense, bench production, chemistry, and style of play are all legitimate concerns. It'll be interesting to see if they can get hot and win a bunch of games at a time. Going 7-6 on your home court early on is certainly not ideal since they've played 5 more home games than the road. They'll need to really be on point by the all star break.

RLundi
12-11-2012, 10:10 PM
No, they'll be in the postseason, but they look like crap right now. Wouldn't surprise me if they get a lower seed and get bounced out by the Clippers or Warriors.

RLundi
12-11-2012, 10:14 PM
I voted no because december is the perfect time to tell whether or not an NBA team will make the playoffs....

Conversely, if the Lakers were 18-3, you and every other Lakers fan would be yelling "CHAMPIONSHIP OR BUST!!!!!"

It doesn't work both ways. The amount of hypocrisy on this forum is stunning.

Jeff559
12-11-2012, 10:14 PM
Even as a Laker hater, I still have to say yes. Prolly 3-5 seed..

Raps18-19 Champ
12-11-2012, 10:17 PM
Why is everyone voting yes? You people seriously think the Lakers will miss the playoffs?

NoTippinPippen
12-11-2012, 10:30 PM
They're too talented to miss the playoffs. Once Nash returns their season will turn around.

Guppyfighter
12-11-2012, 10:34 PM
Even as a Laker hater, I still have to say yes. Prolly 3-5 seed..

Do you realize they would need to play as a 70 win team to be the third seed, right?

kdspurman
12-11-2012, 10:36 PM
Why is everyone voting yes? You people seriously think the Lakers will miss the playoffs?

You don't think it's a legitimate possibility? Even Denver is out of the playoffs as of now. It'll be interesting to see if GS can keep up this play, Dirk is still out, The Wolves have a legitimate shot, and Utah plays well enough at home that they can sneak in.

We only have now to use, and based off their style of play, and lack of chemistry and trust, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they'll be in the playoffs.

HowFit
12-11-2012, 10:38 PM
Poor ol Lakers...

HowFit
12-11-2012, 10:39 PM
Even as a Laker hater, I still have to say yes. Prolly 3-5 seed..

For real?

Andrew32
12-11-2012, 10:41 PM
It would be quite humorous if they didn't but I have to believe they will.

jimm120
12-11-2012, 10:57 PM
:laugh:

Dude, it's freakin' December. I couldn't care less what their record is now, no team with Nash, Kobe, Pau, and Dwight on it is missing the playoffs.

Antoni is their coach....

....that's enough....

but they'll make the playoffs.


But Dantoni sucks balls.

Raps18-19 Champ
12-11-2012, 11:05 PM
You don't think it's a legitimate possibility? Even Denver is out of the playoffs as of now. It'll be interesting to see if GS can keep up this play, Dirk is still out, The Wolves have a legitimate shot, and Utah plays well enough at home that they can sneak in.

We only have now to use, and based off their style of play, and lack of chemistry and trust, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they'll be in the playoffs.

The question asks if the Lakers will miss the playoffs. They clearly won't. No reason why people are voting yes.

kdspurman
12-11-2012, 11:32 PM
The question asks if the Lakers will miss the playoffs. They clearly won't. No reason why people are voting yes.

Whats so clear about it though?The last 3 full seasons, the Western Conference 8th seed has averaged 48 wins. Lakers need to go 39-21 the rest of the way. Is it possible? Of course it is, but there is a chance they miss the playoffs.

strahan92osi72
12-11-2012, 11:41 PM
As bad as the NY Media can be, Dumb'Toni is probably missing it as opposed to LA. Check this out, I never saw him do this in NY.

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/11/mike-dantoni-to-reporter-probably-t-j-simers-youre-starting-to-piss-me-off-video/?source=top-modules

JNoel
12-11-2012, 11:42 PM
1st overall pick goes to...

petersmagic12
12-12-2012, 12:24 AM
Even as a Laker hater, I still have to say yes. Prolly 3-5 seed..


The spurs, clippers, memphis and okc already have the top 4 spots on lock down unless something catastrophic happens with injuries I know its early to call this but you have to figure they at least make playoffs. So that leaves seeds 5 through 8 to be fought over. Utah is playing well, you cannot count out denver, and golden state is 7 games above 500 plus Minnesota still has a shot because ricky rubio isnt back yet and dirk is due back soon for Dallas and they are still over 500. So that means 6 teams are fighting over 3 spots. Still think its impossible that they will miss the playoffs examine the games closer.

The lakers with the loss to cleveland tonight are 4 games under 500 so its not far fetched to question there playoff chances they are 9-13 with nash and Gasol questionable for at least another week or so. And its not like Gasol has been helping much when he has been playing. To think Steve Nash will change all right away is crazy especially coming back from injury.

Do I think the lakers will make the playoffs "yes I do" However there should be some concern they are loosing games they should be wining even without steve nash and Gasol

They lost to Cleveland Orlando Houston, Sacramento and Indiana Are all teams the Lakers should be beating even without those 2 starters. So its not just that they are loosing its who they are loosing too. They are way under performing. and even if you look at there wins only 2 of them are against teams over 500.

It is still a little early but I say if there still under 500 in a month Lakers fans should start to worry.

justinnum1
12-12-2012, 12:39 AM
lakers could have used barnes

also, kobe doesnt care about rings anymore. he could get 7 rings and still never pass jordan. he is going after the scoring record, even if it hurts his team

JasonJohnHorn
12-12-2012, 12:46 AM
Yeah... when I made this thread... I kinda assumed that they would at least be able to be the Cavs.... and Howard let Anderson-V drop 20 on him! WTF?!?!?!?! Anybody surprised to see Kobe take 19 MORE shots than Howard?

JasonJohnHorn
12-12-2012, 12:52 AM
Seriously though... after 12 games 'Antoni is 4-8
Mike Brown was 1-4
Mike Brown was closer to .500 than 'Antoni... even if his winning percentage wasn't as high.

I think if the Lakers fire him in the first 90 days of the contract, they don't have to pay him the entire value of the contract ;-)

Raps18-19 Champ
12-12-2012, 12:54 AM
Whats so clear about it though?The last 3 full seasons, the Western Conference 8th seed has averaged 48 wins. Lakers need to go 39-21 the rest of the way. Is it possible? Of course it is, but there is a chance they miss the playoffs.

It's possible, but not likely.

petersmagic12
12-12-2012, 01:06 AM
Just another food for thought lakers are 1-9 when kobe scores over 30. You think kobe should start distributing more or keep shooting?

AddiX
12-12-2012, 01:10 AM
Did I just hear mike d brag about practicing defense for a half hour?


lmao, so glad I don't need to deal with him anymore.

Blame mike brown! Blame gasol!

LakersMaster24
12-12-2012, 01:11 AM
Shabazz Muhammad to Lakers? :drool:

Beltrans Mole
12-12-2012, 01:11 AM
Just another food for thought lakers are 1-9 when kobe scores over 30. You think kobe should start distributing more or keep shooting?

Kobe is Kobe...he's not changing his ways at this point. D'Antoni wasn't the guy for the job. Dwight in a D'Antoni offense is a waste.

dhopisthename
12-12-2012, 01:19 AM
I meant to vote no, but misread the question. I don't think they have a chance of missing the playoffs baring another big injury

hidalgo
12-12-2012, 01:25 AM
ball hog boy strikes again

DoMeFavors
12-12-2012, 01:30 AM
Dantoni is very upset

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmnWc88u2L8

JasonJohnHorn
12-12-2012, 01:37 AM
Did I just hear mike d brag about practicing defense for a half hour?


lmao, so glad I don't need to deal with him anymore.

Blame mike brown! Blame gasol!

I know... I heard him say: Yeah, we practiced defence for half an hour.

Half an hour? Our practices in HIGH SCHOOL were two hours at least... and half of that was spent on defence, and that's three times a week... he 'brags' about spending half an hour in one practice? WTF??!!?!?

:facepalm:

I never thought I would hear myself say this, but I actually feel bad for Lakers fans.

RipCity32
12-12-2012, 01:40 AM
Watching the post game for the Lakers they are really starting to fall apart mentally and starting the blame game drama.

DoMeFavors
12-12-2012, 01:42 AM
Watching the post game for the Lakers they are really starting to fall apart mentally and starting the blame game drama.

reminding me of 2004 Lakers instead of staying calm they are losing their minds.

oG $wank.
12-12-2012, 01:55 AM
their not going anywhere with mike antoni as their head coach

Hawkeye15
12-12-2012, 02:02 AM
yes, but they will be on the road in their first series, and face a superior team.

AddiX
12-12-2012, 02:04 AM
I know... I heard him say: Yeah, we practiced defence for half an hour.

Half an hour? Our practices in HIGH SCHOOL were two hours at least... and half of that was spent on defence, and that's three times a week... he 'brags' about spending half an hour in one practice? WTF??!!?!?

:facepalm:

I never thought I would hear myself say this, but I actually feel bad for Lakers fans.

Mike is notorious for short practices, it's why players use to love him. when you don't rotate on defense, there really isn't much to teach.

I had to deal with mike for years in ny, I can promise lakers fans, nothing is going to change, your only hope is to fire mike d, or trade gasol for new pieces asap.

You can't change mikes system, only the players. Something has to go

And don't give me that when Nash comes back nonsense, dude broke his leg bumping into someone, physically he won't last long. No way Kobe can play all year like this, and Dwight will definitely leave. Kobes ego is to big for them both on the same roster.

raiderposting
12-12-2012, 02:06 AM
Whats so clear about it though?The last 3 full seasons, the Western Conference 8th seed has averaged 48 wins. Lakers need to go 39-21 the rest of the way. Is it possible? Of course it is, but there is a chance they miss the playoffs.

no they don't have to go 39-21 they're 2 games out of the 8th seed lol

Hopper15
12-12-2012, 02:51 AM
They'll make it. But they have bigger concerns. Like hoping Dwight Howard wants to stay long term with an awful head coach and an old supporting cast.

lakersfan211
12-12-2012, 03:31 AM
As a Laker fan I have to say I don't know!...this team is Horrible!!!!!!

richiesaurus310
12-12-2012, 03:44 AM
Lakers will have to win at least 35/60 games left to make the playoffs.

c.c.
12-12-2012, 04:00 AM
Kobe will get to rest this summer

Sssmush
12-12-2012, 04:16 AM
haha best trick poll ever

rockbottom2010
12-12-2012, 08:05 AM
this is soo sad for the lakers....the d'antoni is relying on nash...man....i know that kobe is irate..and in my opinion....they are probably going to compete for 8th place.....1. thunder...2. spurs....3. grizzlies...4. clippers...the lakers are in big trouble

cg_la00
12-12-2012, 08:11 AM
LUULLZZ i thought the poll said "will the lakers MAKE the playoffs" smh i put yes but you can change my answer to GAAAWWDD no lol

kdspurman
12-12-2012, 08:36 AM
no they don't have to go 39-21 they're 2 games out of the 8th seed lol

Did you read the rest of my post? Its just based on the avg number of 48 wins the 8th seed has had the last full 3 seasons.

kdspurman
12-12-2012, 12:07 PM
Ha just realized the Thread Name is Will the Lakers Make the Playoffs? but the Poll is Will the Lakers miss the playoffs?

Sly Guy
12-12-2012, 12:16 PM
no, they've got too much money invested in that to miss. It's still too early on and the entire team hasn't been healthy. Some of those pieces are movable if it comes to that. All the lakers have to do is figure it for the end of the regular season. If they can do that, they'll be a tough out for anyone in the first round. After that anybody can win.

Mitch Kramer
12-12-2012, 12:37 PM
Ha just realized the Thread Name is Will the Lakers Make the Playoffs? but the Poll is Will the Lakers miss the playoffs?

haha same... well played, OP

sep11ie
12-12-2012, 12:47 PM
JasonJohnHorn is on DoMeFavors level of PSD posting.

MintBerryCrunch
12-12-2012, 12:48 PM
Overreacting

thenaj17
12-12-2012, 12:54 PM
lakers could have used barnes

also, kobe doesnt care about rings anymore. he could get 7 rings and still never pass jordan. he is going after the scoring record, even if it hurts his team

You clearly haven't been watching the games. Not only has Kobe had to shoot in volume to try and get buckets when no-one else is making any, but he is doing it very efficiently and the majority of the time, within the flow of the offence.

Stinkyoutsider
12-12-2012, 01:33 PM
They're making the playoffs. It's only December so they have time to get things going in the right direction. They've put together a new core, revamped the bench, and have a new coaching staff so they're going to struggle for a while.

I don't think it's the talent on the team that's letting them down right now. I just think it's the system (defensive mostly) so they need to find a way to make it work in the next 20 games or so.

SportsFanatic10
12-14-2012, 12:54 AM
I still think they'll make the playoffs almost for sure and posted as much earlier in this thread. But I found this interesting from ESPN Los Angeles:


"Over the past three full NBA seasons, the No. 8 seed in the Western Conference has averaged 48 wins. The Lakers, now 9-14 following Thursday's 116-107 fraternity-style paddling at the hands of the Knicks at Madison Square Garden, would have to go 39-20 to get there. That's a .661 winning percentage, the equivalent of a 54-win pace over a full season. Doable -- at least in theory -- for the roster assembled in the offseason, except nobody has any real idea of when that team will actually take the court, and the current group has shown nothing but the ability to lose to any team on any night. Sure, the Lakers made a late push against the Knicks, just as they did last week in Oklahoma City. But spotting teams huge leads and hoping they get bored (or that the star player turns an ankle) before staging a comeback isn't exactly sound strategy.

Who is willing to call Friday's game in Washington a sure win? I'm certainly not.

The rest of the conference won't wait around for the Lakers. Dallas will eventually get Dirk Nowitzki back. Minnesota gets Ricky Rubio back, maybe as soon as this weekend. The Wolves were strong last season with Rubio and Kevin Love available. Denver ought to get better, and so on. Even stipulating the Lakers will look like the team we expected once Nash and Gasol return (and there are reasons to believe they'll still have some issues), they've reached a point where the games in between are critical. Not for winning the conference (ha!) or pushing into the top four on the playoff ladder, but to avoid having to play .700 or .750 ball just to make the playoffs. Somehow, someway, the Lakers need to win games with the guys available to them or they risk making their quality of play with Nash and Gasol a moot point.

I still believe they'll get in and I know we're not even to Christmas yet, but the threat is very real. As someone expressed to us via Twitter after the Lakers paid homage to the Cuyahoga River fire with their self-immolation act Tuesday in Cleveland, Nash is seen as the guy who can right the ship, and get the Lakers back on course. Except there's only so much he can do if the boat is halfway to the ocean floor when he returns.

Without question, water is currently flowing in faster than the Lakers can bail."

Baller1
12-14-2012, 02:33 AM
I hope so.

Vinny642
12-14-2012, 03:35 AM
I think they will make it, but in terms of competing they have some things that need fixing

Hawkeye15
12-14-2012, 03:36 AM
this is soo sad for the lakers....the d'antoni is relying on nash...man....i know that kobe is irate..and in my opinion....they are probably going to compete for 8th place.....1. thunder...2. spurs....3. grizzlies...4. clippers...the lakers are in big trouble

eww. **** them. If they can't make it with a stacked roster, tough ****.

LADTXR
12-14-2012, 04:07 AM
eww. **** them. If they can't make it with a stacked roster, tough ****.

Stacked? You're right, this is a stacked team with metta, duhon, hill, Jamison, meeks, Morris and Ebanks, it is just not fair. All of which are poor defenders. How many of those guys start for a playoff team and how many wouldn't even come off the bench? Lets see, artest may start or come off the bench for a team or two but other than him no other guy is a capable starter. Morris, Ebanks and duhon wouldn't see the floor on most teams and they're playing significant minutes because of injuries. Doesn't matter who's coaching, this is a team with 2 good players and then garbage.

naps
12-14-2012, 04:08 AM
I think they will eventually make it. But it's a very legit question now since they might have to go 39-20 the rest of the way for a playoff spot.


As a result, the Lakers are facing their most significant problem: Math.

Over the past three full NBA seasons, the No. 8 seed in the Western Conference has averaged 48 wins. The Lakers, now 9-14 following Thursday's 116-107 fraternity-style paddling at the hands of the Knicks at Madison Square Garden, would have to go 39-20 to get there. That's a .661 winning percentage, the equivalent of a 54-win pace over a full season. Doable -- at least in theory -- for the roster assembled in the offseason, except nobody has any real idea of when that team will actually take the court, and the current group has shown nothing but the ability to lose to any team on any night. Sure, the Lakers made a late push against the Knicks, just as they did last week in Oklahoma City. But spotting teams huge leads and hoping they get bored (or that the star player turns an ankle) before staging a comeback isn't exactly sound strategy.

LINK (http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/35038/rapid-reaction-knicks-116-lakers-107).

Sadds The Gr8
12-14-2012, 04:16 AM
them missing the playoffs would be even better than Miami losing in 2011

#knickstape
12-14-2012, 04:28 AM
Yes.

NYKnicksAllDay
12-14-2012, 04:34 AM
lakers could have used barnes

also, kobe doesnt care about rings anymore. he could get 7 rings and still never pass jordan. he is going after the scoring record, even if it hurts his team

Well that's a load of ****.

NYYCowboys
12-14-2012, 04:57 AM
I'm almost sure they will, but I'm rooting against them because:

A. Mike D'Antoni is their coach
B. Dwight Howard
C. It's really entertaining watching them suck with such a good team.

kobe4thewinbang
12-14-2012, 04:59 AM
they'll easily make it, they're stackedPass the weed you're smoking, yo. :rolleyes:

Daaaarryyl
12-14-2012, 05:07 AM
Honestly, it's still too early to tell. There's still a lot of time for any team to get going and make a run.

Also, the laughing at teams when they're struggling (not singling anyone out) should really stop. Every team has their peaks and valleys.

kobebabe
12-14-2012, 05:21 AM
Gawd no....are u happy?? This is bs to say the least. Thanks for your ignorance

The1_Who_knocks
12-14-2012, 05:51 AM
Clown question bro

Guppyfighter
12-14-2012, 06:06 AM
Just look at the teams in front of the Lakers: DEN,HOU,POR,DAL,MIN,UTA,GSW - how many can they leapfrog?

This is now a legitimate question. With their age and lack of depth, once Nash and Pau comes back they need to stay back.

They are 6.5 games back of the fifth seed (Warriors)

I'd imagine that's their ceiling, but when Nash comes back they will be half way through the season, likely to have struggled without Nash.

For those who have not noticed, their simple rating system has dropped from seventh to 13th in the last two weeks. That's a pretty big drop.

I believe they do make it as a sixth seed, but not making the playoffs can be a reality now.

5ass
12-14-2012, 06:07 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ayk4jxn

make this trade with a 1st round pick going to the lakers.

Nash/Udrih/Blake
Kobe/Meeks
Artest/Dunleavy/Luc
Luc/Udoh/Dunleavy/Artest
Howard/Udoh/Hill

They'll have a ton of options at PF to pair with dwight. You want great defense with a decent jumpshot, put in luc. If you want to stretch the floor, use dunleavy or artest. If you want defense, rebounding and hustle, get Udoh or Hill in the game.

They get a lot younger, and a lot more athletic.
With Udoh and Luc, they will improve their D.
They get much deeper as a team.

Milwaukee gets to pair Pau with a great young defender in Sanders, and one of the best back courts in the NBA in Jennings and Monte. They might not have a SF, but they can use Dalembart + Henson to try to get a SF.

Baller1
12-14-2012, 12:30 PM
Stacked? You're right, this is a stacked team with metta, duhon, hill, Jamison, meeks, Morris and Ebanks, it is just not fair. All of which are poor defenders. How many of those guys start for a playoff team and how many wouldn't even come off the bench? Lets see, artest may start or come off the bench for a team or two but other than him no other guy is a capable starter. Morris, Ebanks and duhon wouldn't see the floor on most teams and they're playing significant minutes because of injuries. Doesn't matter who's coaching, this is a team with 2 good players and then garbage.

So before the season, Laker fans wanted to crown them and talk about how great this team was going to be... And now you're going to make excuses that the team isn't stacked.

They're stacked, they just suck.

Greedy22
12-14-2012, 01:14 PM
Too early to tell, they look awful right now, but once they piece it together they will be fine. If they don't get it together soon they can kiss a top 4 seed good bye.

eddyv7
12-14-2012, 01:32 PM
yes they will probably end up 5th in the west and still do damage in the playoff when everyone is healthy

nolin
12-14-2012, 01:44 PM
I think they will eventually make it. But it's a very legit question now since they might have to go 39-20 the rest of the way for a playoff spot.



LINK (http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/35038/rapid-reaction-knicks-116-lakers-107).

ha 39 and 20. i dont think so. 34 and 25 gets it done. 43 wins will be good enough this year out west. the west is alot more top heavy then balance this year.

nolin
12-14-2012, 01:57 PM
Stacked? You're right, this is a stacked team with metta, duhon, hill, Jamison, meeks, Morris and Ebanks, it is just not fair. All of which are poor defenders. How many of those guys start for a playoff team and how many wouldn't even come off the bench? Lets see, artest may start or come off the bench for a team or two but other than him no other guy is a capable starter. Morris, Ebanks and duhon wouldn't see the floor on most teams and they're playing significant minutes because of injuries. Doesn't matter who's coaching, this is a team with 2 good players and then garbage.

ummmm :facepalm: did u just call ron ron a poor defender?

mightybosstone
12-14-2012, 02:04 PM
I think it's way too early to tell at this point. Reading some posts, there were a lot of "obviously"s and "of course"s, but right now they're 2 1/2 games out of the 8th seed, there are three teams in front of them and there are a lot of really good teams in those first 11 teams who aren't just going to fold over and let the Lakers take their spot. At some point, they have to stop caring about the potential and all the media hype and just win some damn basketball games. Until that happens, I'm not willing to say anything.

LADTXR
12-14-2012, 02:12 PM
So before the season, Laker fans wanted to crown them and talk about how great this team was going to be... And now you're going to make excuses that the team isn't stacked.

They're stacked, they just suck.

Everyone knew they were a top heavy team with a decent enough bench. Nash, gasol and Blake being out are killing them. That's what, 75 minutes that duhon, Morris, hill and Jamison are playing instead. Duhon and Morris were lucky to see the floor before Nash and Blake got hurt.

LADTXR
12-14-2012, 02:15 PM
ummmm :facepalm: did u just call ron ron a poor defender?

My bad, he's a good defender, but not like he was 3-4 years ago.

RonE Coleman
12-14-2012, 02:19 PM
They will make the playoffs, 6-8 seed if I had to guess.

THE MTL
12-14-2012, 02:19 PM
I'm inclined to say yes just because its the Lakers and its Kobe. But its going to be interesting to see which team in the West misses the playoffs now that Golden State has emerged as a near-lock. Jazz, Mavs, Nuggets, Lakers, & Wolves......basically 5 teams in the fight for 3 spots.

LADTXR
12-14-2012, 02:24 PM
I'm inclined to say yes just because its the Lakers and its Kobe. But its going to be interesting to see which team in the West misses the playoffs now that Golden State has emerged as a near-lock. Jazz, Mavs, Nuggets, Lakers, & Wolves......basically 5 teams in the fight for 3 spots.

I wouldn't call golden state a near lock, don't they do this every year? Start off well, beat a good team, curry gets hurt and they're out of it. Maybe curry will stay healthy.