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waveycrockett
12-10-2012, 12:15 PM
Going back to his days in Wisconsin he was an athletic freak of a PG. His first 6 seasons in the NBA he got better every year. He was a defensive stud on an elite team in Dallas and looked like he was going to blossom into a star after being traded to NJ and making the allstar team in 2009. He averaged 21 points and 7 assists with 1.7 stls his first full season under Lawrence Frank and was widely considered a top-5 PG after that season. He then fell off a cliff. For Anbody who watched ball seriously before 2004 are you shocked this guy never blossomed into a perennial allstar?

shen
12-10-2012, 12:21 PM
No because I always felt he was over rated. I never expected or believed he could be a star.

yaswaggin
12-10-2012, 12:28 PM
Didn't he get owned 1v1 by a street baller in jeans?

KnickaBocka.44
12-10-2012, 12:33 PM
I never thought he would be a star but I was definitely surprised by how steep his decline was. He just was never really great at anything on offense. He could get by people but was never a great distributer, and never really improved his outside shot all that much.

NJDrew2
12-10-2012, 12:49 PM
A little while after he got traded to the Nets they asked him to score the ball more. Once they did that he got lazy on D and he stopped setting up his teammates. Since that happened he hasn't been very good.

LAKobeBryant
12-10-2012, 12:50 PM
His game winner vs philly is the highlight of his career.

YoungOne
12-10-2012, 12:51 PM
injuries are part of the deal

Cal827
12-10-2012, 12:55 PM
Quite a bit. I thought for sure that Dallas made a mistake trading away Devin, a future all-star/top-3-Pg, for an Old, Declining Kidd at that time. I am definitely eating crow on this one

greg_ory_2005
12-10-2012, 01:02 PM
I'm more shocked at how bad he fell off after those first couple years in NJ.

Bravo95
12-10-2012, 01:25 PM
Not really.

Jesse2272
12-10-2012, 01:31 PM
I never thought he would be a star but I was definitely surprised by how steep his decline was. He just was never really great at anything on offense. He could get by people but was never a great distributer, and never really improved his outside shot all that much.

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very shocked

I expected more

he just disappeared as a player

sep11ie
12-10-2012, 01:38 PM
I'm shocked that you're shocked.

Jesse2272
12-10-2012, 01:39 PM
I'm shocked that you're shocked.

So am I :speechless:

THE MTL
12-10-2012, 01:41 PM
He fell off HARD. He had that one great season in NJ and disappeared.

tennisoscar1
12-10-2012, 01:42 PM
His game winner vs philly is the highlight of his career.

When he made that shot I literally started crying.. how the hell does that happen lol

Stinkyoutsider
12-10-2012, 01:44 PM
I was surprised he didn't turn out to be a very important piece to a playoff/championship team...

I think injuries were the main reason he dropped off? After he had his first major injury and lost some of his athleticism, he was never the same player.

yaswaggin
12-10-2012, 01:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysv3v7uXblw

Highlight of his career

VinceCarter
12-10-2012, 01:45 PM
I just remember he had that NASTTYYYY between the legs and pull up from the free throw line after sprinting on a fast break at full speed (which he set the record dribbling the length of the court in 3.8 seconds I believe). That move was nuts and he made whoever was guarding him look absolutely foolish!!

JasonJohnHorn
12-10-2012, 06:54 PM
I'ts kind of funny... the same thing happened to him that happened to D-Will.. he's on a western conference playoff team... improving his FG% each season, gets traded to the NEts and then goes into a shooting slump for several years?

The thing was, as a young player, he kept improving.. assists go up, turnovers go down, FG% goes up, scoring goes up... I though he was blossoming into a really good player.. I wouldn't say that I thought he was going to be at a CP3 level or Nash, but I thought he would be good, like perhaps as good as Mark Price (though very different).

then in NJ he just fell of the face of the earth? And a trip to Utah didn't help much.

This happens so often... you see it with guys like Marbury and Francis, who perform at an even higher level, and then they just drop off the face of the earth.

Raps18-19 Champ
12-10-2012, 06:55 PM
I never thought he would be a star but I was definitely surprised by how steep his decline was. He just was never really great at anything on offense. He could get by people but was never a great distributer, and never really improved his outside shot all that much.

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HouRealCoach
12-10-2012, 07:11 PM
Thinking back on that trade, I remember EVERYBODY thought Dallas made a huge mistake by trading Devin Harris & Diop lol... Just proves that people from the outside looking in know nothing

NoahH
12-10-2012, 07:49 PM
MIKE JAMES effect

AddiX
12-10-2012, 07:55 PM
I remember when he first got to nj and lite up the mavs for 50 + or some nonsense.

Yeah ppl expected much bigger things from him for sure. He hit a certain level, and his development was completely over.

Ebbs
12-10-2012, 07:59 PM
I'm a little bit. The guy looked so promising after our 06 run.

SACNYY
12-10-2012, 08:00 PM
I thought Shaun Livingston would be a star.

Alayla
12-10-2012, 08:00 PM
not really his game was biased on his speed once he lost it it was over.

dhopisthename
12-10-2012, 08:10 PM
he was just too small. he started out going to the line a ton in his younger days but he had curtail that because he couldn't stay healthy

SACNYY
12-10-2012, 08:22 PM
Yatu Tabuse had more potential

TmacBryant
12-10-2012, 08:23 PM
Didn't he get owned 1v1 by a street baller in jeans?

I was going to say this, no NBA star would ever let that happen to them by a non-nba player.

netsgiantsyanks
12-10-2012, 08:41 PM
yes and no. i never saw him as a all-star, but i'm surprised how badly he declined. those couple of years in NJ where he basically had to be the man and injuries can be a factor

netsgiantsyanks
12-10-2012, 08:45 PM
I'ts kind of funny... the same thing happened to him that happened to D-Will.. he's on a western conference playoff team... improving his FG% each season, gets traded to the NEts and then goes into a shooting slump for several years?

The thing was, as a young player, he kept improving.. assists go up, turnovers go down, FG% goes up, scoring goes up... I though he was blossoming into a really good player.. I wouldn't say that I thought he was going to be at a CP3 level or Nash, but I thought he would be good, like perhaps as good as Mark Price (though very different).

then in NJ he just fell of the face of the earth? And a trip to Utah didn't help much.

This happens so often... you see it with guys like Marbury and Francis, who perform at an even higher level, and then they just drop off the face of the earth.

both d-will and harris were placed in ****** situations and had to be the main guy. devin harris will NEVER be the main guy on a playoff team while d-will is a much better #2 option.

yanksrock
12-10-2012, 09:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysv3v7uXblw

Highlight of his career

:laugh:

KingPosey
12-10-2012, 09:28 PM
I think about Harris all the time and wonder what happened to his game. I met him last season on a street corner downtown in Sacramento

waveycrockett
12-10-2012, 11:52 PM
He was Jon Wall 1.0. Dude has tremendous talent and athleticism. I honestly just think he didn't have the desire to be great.

IversonIsKrazy
12-11-2012, 02:59 AM
I am REALLY Surprised! I used to hate playing the Mavs (Spurs) because of him, he would rip us apart. I remember when they first traded him for JKidd, I thought Mavs were stupid to do it, and after the 1st season it seemed that way too. But after, I really don't know or understand what happened to him.

PurpleJesus
12-11-2012, 03:07 AM
He was such a big commodity when he was with Dallas, for a span of about 5 years, he was one of those fringe all star type players. He was always a solid player. I am more shocked on how fall he has fallen now.

aman_13
12-11-2012, 03:29 AM
Ya there was a lot hype around him, Cuban got killed for that trade. Dallas ended up making the right move.

albertajaysfan
12-11-2012, 05:38 AM
both d-will and harris were placed in ****** situations and had to be the main guy. devin harris will NEVER be the main guy on a playoff team while d-will is a much better #2 option.

Which is exactly why Lopez is so important for the Nets. Explains why the sucked so bad last year.

albertajaysfan
12-11-2012, 05:40 AM
He was Jon Wall 1.0. Dude has tremendous talent and athleticism. I honestly just think he didn't have the desire to be great.

Makes no sense. That would make John Wall Devon Harris 2.0 not the other way around.

That is like saying Wilt was Shaq 1.0.

king4day
12-11-2012, 10:46 AM
I thought NJ robbed Dallas on the J-Kidd deal because of how good (I thought) Harris was. Clearly I was wrong there.

sixer04fan
12-11-2012, 12:06 PM
I never thought he would be a star but I was definitely surprised by how steep his decline was. He just was never really great at anything on offense. He could get by people but was never a great distributer, and never really improved his outside shot all that much.

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ZHawk1123
12-11-2012, 12:11 PM
No... He's not a great play maker and isn't a good shooter...

He's fast though.