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Jays Claw
12-07-2012, 04:33 PM
Is he... ?

This season: 18.3 ppg, 6.0 apg, 5.7 rpg, 1.6 spg, & 23.5 PER

b@llhog24
12-07-2012, 04:35 PM
Sure why not.

jakedajewler
12-07-2012, 04:46 PM
I think so

2-ONE-5
12-07-2012, 04:47 PM
at the moment (statistaclly) he is 4th to me behind Paul, Rondo, Holiday

Chronz
12-07-2012, 04:49 PM
Yes

Baller1
12-07-2012, 04:54 PM
If he keeps this up all season, then yeah.

conway429
12-07-2012, 05:03 PM
at the moment (statistaclly) he is 4th to me behind Paul, Rondo, Holiday

on top of the fact that he's probably the 2nd best defensively

DoMeFavors
12-07-2012, 05:08 PM
nope he doesnt win games

B'sCeltsPatsSox
12-07-2012, 05:09 PM
He's at least in the top 4 if not 2 or 3 defensive wise and has a pretty solid offensive game. I've got him at about 8 or so. Not really changing my PG rankings yet from where they were at the beginning of the season.


nope he doesnt win games

So that must mean Deron was one of the worst PG's in the league for the past season and a half, right?

Rivera
12-07-2012, 05:11 PM
if he can stay healthy and keep a similar pace (i expect a slight drop off but nothing crazy just small) then yes he was one two years ago i took him off because of his injury season last year and hes creeping back on that list id have him somewhere between 8-10

DoMeFavors
12-07-2012, 05:13 PM
He's at least in the top 4 if not 2 or 3 defensive wise and has a pretty solid offensive game. I've got him at about 8 or so. Not really changing my PG rankings yet from where they were at the beginning of the season.



So that must mean Deron was one of the worst PG's in the league for the past season and a half, right?

Last year was a short season and the year he was traded to Nets he played 10 games so if you want to count that as a half be my guest. Lowry has never achieved anything as a starting PG , Deron has been to WCF....Give Deron the respect he deserves bro.

bucketss
12-07-2012, 05:19 PM
Last year was a short season and the year he was traded to Nets he played 10 games so if you want to count that as a half be my guest. Lowry has never achieved anything as a starting PG , Deron has been to WCF....Give Deron the respect he deserves bro.

give lowry some respect cuuh

5ass
12-07-2012, 05:22 PM
Last year was a short season and the year he was traded to Nets he played 10 games so if you want to count that as a half be my guest. Lowry has never achieved anything as a starting PG , Deron has been to WCF....Give Deron the respect he deserves bro.

Did u seriously use tge shortened season excuse to justify why deron couldnt win more games? Quit while ur behind.

DoMeFavors
12-07-2012, 05:24 PM
Did u seriously use tge shortened season excuse to justify why deron couldnt win more games? Quit while ur behind.

no he basically called it a year and a half of losing games, Deron didnt have Brook last year. Lowry has played with Kevin Martin, Scola, Dalambert,Shane and still couldnt get it done.

Kuya_Clive
12-07-2012, 05:25 PM
For sure, I am just glad I was patient with his injury in the beginning of the season for fantasy.

Raps18-19 Champ
12-07-2012, 05:29 PM
I've been disappointed with his decision making but he's playing good.

NYJ - NYY
12-07-2012, 05:31 PM
He's at least in the top 4 if not 2 or 3 defensive wise and has a pretty solid offensive game. I've got him at about 8 or so. Not really changing my PG rankings yet from where they were at the beginning of the season.



So that must mean Deron was one of the worst PG's in the league for the past season and a half, right?

booom pow kick punch right in the kisser... take the dmf u ****in clown

Swift Game
12-07-2012, 05:31 PM
Absolutely. Bottom 10 though. Hope the Lakers can get him in the Gasol trade instead of Calderon.

LAKobeBryant
12-07-2012, 05:34 PM
My Top 10 in no order:

CP3
Rondo
D.Will
D.Rose
Irving
Parker
Westbrook
Nash
Jrue Holiday
Lowry

Lowry is on top of the list for non-elite/superstar point guard.

RonE Coleman
12-07-2012, 05:34 PM
Why does it not surprise me that Domefavors is one of the 2 votes for "NO".

Definitely top 10, probably in the 8-10 range though.

Lakers + Giants
12-07-2012, 05:35 PM
CP3
Deron
Westbrook
Parker
Rondo
Conley
Curry
Lillard
Holiday

Other PGs out with injuries that I'd take over Lowry
Kyrie
Rose
Nash

Is he a top 10 PG right now? Probably, at 10th.

When the injured PGs come back? No.

RonE Coleman
12-07-2012, 05:37 PM
CP3
Deron
Westbrook
Parker
Rondo
Conley
Curry
Lillard
Holiday

Other PGs out with injuries that I'd take over Lowry
Kyrie
Rose
Nash

Is he a top 10 PG right now? Probably, at 10th.

When the injured PGs come back? No.

Lillards played 15 games in the NBA :facepalm:

DoMeFavors
12-07-2012, 05:39 PM
My list

Deron
Rose
Paul
Westbrook
Rondo
Nash
Curry
Kyrie Irving
Jrue Holiday
Tony Parker

LAKobeBryant
12-07-2012, 05:39 PM
CP3
Deron
Westbrook
Parker
Rondo
Conley
Curry
Lillard
Holiday

Other PGs out with injuries that I'd take over Lowry
Kyrie
Rose
Nash

Is he a top 10 PG right now? Probably, at 10th.

When the injured PGs come back? No.

curry, conley, lillard, holiday all above lowry? :facepalm:

RonE Coleman
12-07-2012, 05:43 PM
My list

Deron
Rose
Paul
Westbrook
Rondo
Nash
Curry
Kyrie Irving
Jrue Holiday
Jennings

Always proving you know NOTHING about Basketball.

Deron over Rose Paul and Rondo??? :facepalm:

Where is Tony Parker?

DoMeFavors
12-07-2012, 05:43 PM
Always proving you know NOTHING about Basketball.

Deron over Rose Paul and Rondo??? :facepalm:

Where is Tony Parker?

its not in order man but yes I do think Dwill is better

2-ONE-5
12-07-2012, 05:44 PM
My list

PaDeronRose
ul
Westbrook
Rondo
Nash
Curry
Kyrie Irving
Jrue Holiday
Jennings

LOL you would have D-Will at 1. he is not even top 5 at the moment.


curry, conley, lillard, holiday all above lowry? :facepalm:

Holiday, yes and not just saying that to be a homer. the rest i agree with you

Sly Guy
12-07-2012, 05:45 PM
I've been disappointed with his decision making but he's playing good.

so have I, but you can't hold it completely against him, he's got little to work with thus far.

DoMeFavors
12-07-2012, 05:46 PM
Ok I took out Jennings and put in Parker

Sly Guy
12-07-2012, 05:47 PM
My list

Deron
Rose
Paul
Westbrook
Rondo
Nash
Curry
Kyrie Irving
Jrue Holiday
Tony Parker

that's an awful list, and I'll let virtually everyone else explain why.

NoahH
12-07-2012, 05:47 PM
He's like top 7 id say even

Becks2307
12-07-2012, 05:52 PM
I think Kyle Lowry is better than D will right now

LAKobeBryant
12-07-2012, 05:55 PM
I think Kyle Lowry is better than D will right now

if you base it on a 1 game comparison....

smith&wesson
12-07-2012, 05:57 PM
paul
westbrook
rondo
d.will
parker
lawson
lowry
dragic
irving
conley
holiday
nash
rose


i found it hard to put these guys in order but i think all these guys have a case for top 10. rose and nash being injured obviously moved some guys up. I also think rubio could have a case if he was healthy as well.

Becks2307
12-07-2012, 05:59 PM
if you base it on a 1 game comparison....

Well I look at it like this.

I fear Lowry on the opposing team more than I fear seeing Deron Williams. of corse body of work has to go into this debate but Lowry is balling right now.

Bruno
12-07-2012, 05:59 PM
when he's on the court, yeah.
he's a fantasy giant as well.

SRT4SS
12-07-2012, 06:17 PM
Lowry can put up numbers but he can't run an offence and his stats don't contribute to winning games. Also I think he is overrated as a defender, he takes chances which leads to steals but on the flip side also leads to easy points for the opposing team. That said, his numbers put him as a top 10 PG but I could think of 10 better option to run a team. As a Raptors fan I was excited this offseason but now that I've seen him play I feel he is a me first type player that doesn't involve his teammates enough.

mike_noodles
12-07-2012, 06:18 PM
I'm a Raps fan and I say no. You have to win to be in that coversation for me. If they were close to .500 I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but they'll be 4-16 in a few hours, not acceptable.

smith&wesson
12-07-2012, 06:33 PM
when he's on the court, yeah.
he's a fantasy giant as well.

he really is. i have him on my fantasy team i also have chris paul. if they both play on a certain night and i have to chose between them i go with lowry every time. he is a fantasy jaugernaut.

smith&wesson
12-07-2012, 06:35 PM
I'm a Raps fan and I say no. You have to win to be in that coversation for me. If they were close to .500 I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but they'll be 4-16 in a few hours, not acceptable.

ya but mike you have to consider the fact that he was injured for 6 games. Plus the raps have lost some pretty close games as well.

BHF
12-07-2012, 06:38 PM
Lowry can put up numbers but he can't run an offence and his stats don't contribute to winning games. Also I think he is overrated as a defender, he takes chances which leads to steals but on the flip side also leads to easy points for the opposing team. That said, his numbers put him as a top 10 PG but I could think of 10 better option to run a team. As a Raptors fan I was excited this offseason but now that I've seen him play I feel he is a me first type player that doesn't involve his teammates enough.

:facepalm:

i swear you didn't watch 2 games this season or you are just clueless what the **** are you talking about LOL

Swashcuff
12-07-2012, 07:01 PM
I may just rank him ahead of Jrue despite being a 76ers fan he's absolutely a top 10 PG in the NBA no real question about that. As far as two way PGs go on Westy, Jure, CP3, Rose and Rondo (from a play making standpoint) can compare.

Honestly the only two PGs that have been clearly better than him this season are CP3 and Westy. Rondo, Curry, Holiday, Kyrie, Lillard, Deron, Parker, Conley and Dragic are somewhere in there and then well Rose and Nash can't be overlooked. He's around 7 at worse if you ask me.

FriedTofuz
12-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Hes been gambling a lot of defense by going for steals, he hasnt been that great. hes isnt that good at making plays, hes a better rebounder than a playmaker. Id say hes a top 10 still

Swashcuff
12-07-2012, 07:12 PM
I'm a Raps fan and I say no. You have to win to be in that coversation for me. If they were close to .500 I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but they'll be 4-16 in a few hours, not acceptable.

So then Kyrie isn't a top 10 PG either? How about Deron last season?

This is a team sport what don't people understand about that? This whole he needs to win to be a top player bull is baseless if you don't apply any context.

heyman321
12-07-2012, 07:25 PM
It's sad that he is the leading rebounder on the Raptors.

SRT4SS
12-07-2012, 07:38 PM
:facepalm:

i swear you didn't watch 2 games this season or you are just clueless what the **** are you talking about LOL

I think you may have blinders on if you're not seeing Lowry's faults. I'm not calling him a scrub but how is he improving the teams record. The Raptors are 2-4 without him and 2-7 with him.

dtmagnet
12-07-2012, 07:58 PM
Absolutely. Bottom 10 though. Hope the Lakers can get him in the Gasol trade instead of Calderon.

Thats a pretty ridiculous thing to hope for, thats like hoping a supermodel will appear at your door naked and ready to party.

RonE Coleman
12-07-2012, 08:09 PM
Thats a pretty ridiculous thing to hope for, thats like hoping a supermodel will appear at your door naked and ready to party.

It happens :shrug:

BHF
12-07-2012, 08:23 PM
I think you may have blinders on if you're not seeing Lowry's faults. I'm not calling him a scrub but how is he improving the teams record. The Raptors are 2-4 without him and 2-7 with him.

i do see his faults like not getting back after a missed layup or some other small stuff like that, but saying he cant run the team and his d is overrated is just ridicules + he played a lot of his games he was injured came back a week early. You are blaming him for the 2-7 but if you watched closely you would see that with him in the game we would be up by 5-10 points and when Jose comes in the game within 5 minutes we go down by 10 and its on Lowrys back to bring us back every time, if you are a true raptors fan you should be more than happy to have him run the team instead of that scrub Jose Calderon

dolphan
12-07-2012, 08:40 PM
Without an inkling of a doubt. For those of you that have him in fantasy, you'll definitely agree with me

bucketss
12-07-2012, 08:55 PM
I'm a Raps fan and I say no. You have to win to be in that coversation for me. If they were close to .500 I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but they'll be 4-16 in a few hours, not acceptable.

you must be insane hes playing damn scrubs and rookies