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Punk
12-05-2012, 09:59 PM
The Toronto Raptors are the most likely team to acquire Pau Gasol if the Los Angeles Lakers trade him, according to rival executives.

The Raptors would likely build a trade for Gasol centered around Andrea Bargnani and Jose Calderon.

According to sources, however, Bryan Colangelo has showed no willingness to deal Bargnani.

Via Ken Berger/CBS Sports

Watch Colangelo not try to make a move.

kenzo400
12-05-2012, 10:01 PM
Watch Colangelo not try to make a move.

Speculation. BC has never said he intends to trade Barg's. He's obviously his lover.

Ty Fast
12-05-2012, 10:04 PM
based on the lakers history they will probably trade gasol and steve blake for cp3 and blake griffin

Johann
12-05-2012, 10:04 PM
Do they have Primo Pasta in LA?

B'sCeltsPatsSox
12-05-2012, 10:04 PM
If this does happen hopefully for the Raptors Lowry comes back and plays as good as he did before his injury. They could probably sneak into the playoffs if that were to happen.

Avenged
12-05-2012, 10:06 PM
Bargs AND Calderon? Tempting..

LAKERMANIA
12-05-2012, 10:06 PM
I'm not too high on Bargs... I'd love Ryan Anderson though

GiantsSwaGG
12-05-2012, 10:06 PM
Lakers would get raped in that trade

DoMeFavors
12-05-2012, 10:12 PM
If Raptors want to win in the near future they should

Lowry,Derozan,Gasol and Gasol is a international player perfect for Tdot

unleashthebeast
12-05-2012, 10:14 PM
Pau is a much better player than Bargnani, but damn. Bargnani's range next to Dwight would be down right nasty :drool:

bucketss
12-05-2012, 10:16 PM
no.

UPRock
12-05-2012, 10:22 PM
I don't think that's a good trade, they don't need Calderon, they have Nash who's a better player, plus Bargnani is not that good, they'd be better starting Jamison who can actually play defense and rebound.

310Casper
12-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Lakers can do better than that garbage of a trade.

Raps18-19 Champ
12-05-2012, 10:29 PM
Bargnani would get destroyed by Kobe. Kobe will call him out everyday to the media.

kyubi256
12-05-2012, 10:32 PM
Calderon is a really good player. I think it'd be a fair trade for the Lakers. Mainly because of the hate Pau gets on that team

Mave1002
12-05-2012, 10:32 PM
Pau Gasol will not be traded. Get over it.

kingsdelez24
12-05-2012, 10:33 PM
Trade him for anderson + rivers and filler

JOhnnyTHaJet
12-05-2012, 10:34 PM
Lakers would get raped in that trade

How?

Gasol is declining and Bargs is the perfect PF to put next to Dwight. Calderon is also one of the best backups in the league and a very solid starting PG (until Nash comes back).

Lakers would win that trade IMO.

tredigs
12-05-2012, 10:34 PM
Maybe it would be Lowry/Bargnani for Nash and Gasol - seeing as Nash's signing was contingent on Pau staying a Laker. It would be a dirty, smelly move by the Lakers, I could see it.

NYKNYGNYY
12-05-2012, 10:39 PM
That's a good trade for the lakers imo, they always pull it off somehow I don't get it

SACNYY
12-05-2012, 10:41 PM
That'd be a really good deal for LA

DumDum
12-05-2012, 10:43 PM
Maybe it would be Lowry/Bargnani for Nash and Gasol - seeing as Nash's signing was contingent on Pau staying a Laker. It would be a dirty, smelly move by the Lakers, I could see it.

Smelly yeah that sounds like the lakers

Raps18-19 Champ
12-05-2012, 10:48 PM
Maybe it would be Lowry/Bargnani for Nash and Gasol - seeing as Nash's signing was contingent on Pau staying a Laker. It would be a dirty, smelly move by the Lakers, I could see it.

Lolololololol. You actually think Colangelo would do that?

He'll never let go of Bargnani. Ever.

FriedTofuz
12-05-2012, 10:51 PM
According to sources, however, Bryan Colangelo has showed no willingness to deal Bargnani.

Just fire colangelo, Im tired of his ****ing garbage.

bholly
12-05-2012, 10:53 PM
As good as Gasol is, at 32 and with his contract, trade speculations are better off starting by figuring out what sort of team would want him, not what sort of return LAL are looking for.

I have no idea why Toronto would want Gasol right now, although stranger things have happened - but those guys talking about Ryan Anderson can keep dreaming. Not a chance.

NYMetros
12-05-2012, 10:53 PM
Stop making the Atlantic division so good, nba. :bang:

topdog
12-05-2012, 10:54 PM
Lakers can do better than that garbage of a trade.

Like? The best I can come up with for them is a trade with Charlotte for Tyrus Thomas and Ben Gordon, a trade with Detroit for Prince and Villanueva or a trade with New York for Amaré.

I know Lakers have pulled off some hauls before, but they have no assets (owing picks for the next decade) and Pau is obviously in decline and super expensive.

J4KOP99
12-05-2012, 10:55 PM
I don't think Gasol is going anywhere anytime soon.

ACanadian
12-05-2012, 10:55 PM
It's gonna happen im calling it

Kashmir13579
12-05-2012, 10:56 PM
Mike D'antoni's wet dream..

FriedTofuz
12-05-2012, 10:57 PM
get atlanta involved, so pau can shift to the center spot and move horford to the PF, by trading josh smith to Toronto

toronto gets : smith
lakers get : bargnani . calderon
atlanta gets: pau

RonE Coleman
12-05-2012, 11:00 PM
IDK how much this really helps the Lakers though...Once Nash is back theyd have 2 point guards who offer nothing defensively and Bargs is one of the worst defenders in the NBA.

FriedTofuz
12-05-2012, 11:01 PM
hell crooner, you get calderon in return, are you happy

Aleksandar
12-05-2012, 11:02 PM
Pau is not a PF, and is getting old. Maybe Toronto is better off without him, developing Valanciunas at C

Jenceman
12-05-2012, 11:02 PM
You know, I would think hard about this trade if I were Mitch.

Maybe try and squeeze a future pick out of it as well. Calderon- Bargs, and say what a 2014 or 2015 first rounder? I do that deal as a Laker fan is Pau's struggles continue to midseason. If you can't get a first out of them, try and snatch some more depth. Perhaps convince the Raptors to take on Blake or Duhon and/or bring back Kleiza, who could do well with some floor spacing.

An intriguing thought should Pau's struggles continue on. Calderon would be the key in the trade, giving the Lakers an excellent bench player.

Bigbadmoffo
12-05-2012, 11:02 PM
IDK how much this really helps the Lakers though...Once Nash is back theyd have 2 point guards who offer nothing defensively and Bargs is one of the worst defenders in the NBA.

He's pretty good one on one d but his help and rebounding sucks.

SINCESTARBURY25
12-05-2012, 11:03 PM
Wow and people thought Amare for Gasol was bad.

RonE Coleman
12-05-2012, 11:04 PM
Lakers should try and get PAUL MILLSAP

Sucha beast, good character as well

Jenceman
12-05-2012, 11:05 PM
Wow and people thought Amare for Gasol was bad.

That trade is terrible. I would take this trade by far over any deal involving Amare. Yuck to that guy.

ACanadian
12-05-2012, 11:08 PM
You know, I would think hard about this trade if I were Mitch.

Maybe try and squeeze a future pick out of it as well. Calderon- Bargs, and say what a 2014 or 2015 first rounder? I do that deal as a Laker fan is Pau's struggles continue to midseason. If you can't get a first out of them, try and snatch some more depth. Perhaps convince the Raptors to take on Blake or Duhon and/or bring back Kleiza, who could do well with some floor spacing.

An intriguing thought should Pau's struggles continue on. Calderon would be the key in the trade, giving the Lakers an excellent bench player.

We can't trade our first till 2018 I believe

Hellcrooner
12-05-2012, 11:08 PM
hell crooner, you get calderon in return, are you happy

no.

Not for Lakers (bargs sucks)

Not for Pau ( raptors go nowhere)

Not for Jose ( becomes the new scapegoat).

FriedTofuz
12-05-2012, 11:10 PM
You know, I would think hard about this trade if I were Mitch.

Maybe try and squeeze a future pick out of it as well. Calderon- Bargs, and say what a 2014 or 2015 first rounder? I do that deal as a Laker fan is Pau's struggles continue to midseason. If you can't get a first out of them, try and snatch some more depth. Perhaps convince the Raptors to take on Blake or Duhon and/or bring back Kleiza, who could do well with some floor spacing.

An intriguing thought should Pau's struggles continue on. Calderon would be the key in the trade, giving the Lakers an excellent bench player.

toronto is giving up a lot, their gm wont even do it cus he loves bargnani. you're crazy if you think toronto will give up a pick as well

FriedTofuz
12-05-2012, 11:11 PM
if bryan colangelo wont trade bargnani, show him the door

ACanadian
12-05-2012, 11:13 PM
if bryan colangelo wont trade bargnani, show him the door

I'd personally show him a steel-toe boot

shep33
12-05-2012, 11:14 PM
Kinda off topic, but Colangelo needs to get fired. Some of the worst GM moves I've witnessed in recent history.

shep33
12-05-2012, 11:15 PM
that trade is terrible. I would take this trade by far over any deal involving amare. Yuck to that guy.

+1

Bruno
12-05-2012, 11:23 PM
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showpost.php?p=24511544&postcount=533

The1_Who_knocks
12-05-2012, 11:25 PM
Hmmm

bucketss
12-05-2012, 11:28 PM
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showpost.php?p=24511544&postcount=533

thats crazy talk:o

John Walls Era
12-05-2012, 11:33 PM
I'm not too high on Bargs... I'd love Ryan Anderson though

Bargs can score in many more ways.

John Walls Era
12-05-2012, 11:34 PM
Hang up the damn phone if the Lakers are calling. They start off with Bargnani and Calderon for Gasol. But it'll end up being Ross + Calderon + Bargnani + Pietrus for Jordan Hill and Fillers.

If Lakers aren't calling. Raptors should just fax them the deal. You do not wanna talk with Lakers FO. Only way to prevent a trade rape.

Jamiecballer
12-05-2012, 11:37 PM
Bargs can score in many more ways.

they still count the same. they aren't looking for a first or second option. which is good because Bargnani isn't either.

John Walls Era
12-05-2012, 11:38 PM
Wow and people thought Amare for Gasol was bad.

No One wants Amare. Every one of us on PSD is worth more to a franchise than Amare THIS season.

Emphasis on THIS. Im sure if Amare is back at 100% next year, he'll be good.

SINCESTARBURY25
12-05-2012, 11:39 PM
That trade is terrible. I would take this trade by far over any deal involving Amare. Yuck to that guy.

Yeah because even when Amare is hurt he doesn't put up 18 and 8. Your acting like Amare is Jordan Hill.

SirSkyHook
12-05-2012, 11:46 PM
Hang up the damn phone if the Lakers are calling. They start off with Bargnani and Calderon for Gasol. But it'll end up being Ross + Calderon + Bargnani + Pietrus for Jordan Hill and Fillers.

If Lakers aren't calling. Raptors should just fax them the deal. You do not wanna talk with Lakers FO. Only way to prevent a trade rape.

lol. soooooo true! lol

RonE Coleman
12-05-2012, 11:47 PM
No One wants Amare. Every one of us on PSD is worth more to a franchise than Amare THIS season.

Emphasis on THIS. Im sure if Amare is back at 100% next year, he'll be good.

Lmao, because you know how he is going to play when he comes back THIS year? :facepalm:

John Walls Era
12-05-2012, 11:47 PM
Lmao, because you know how he is going to play when he comes back THIS year? :facepalm:

We are in december already so when you say "this year". Im probably right.

shep33
12-05-2012, 11:52 PM
Always a fan of Stat, but he's not getting traded. 67 mill is a lot of money.

Eg714
12-06-2012, 12:25 AM
3 way trade with wolves,hornets and lakers.

THE MTL
12-06-2012, 12:32 AM
Watch Colangelo not try to make a move.

I wouldnt do that move if im Toronto. Gasol looks horrible out there and is currently playing worst than Bargnani. Bargs is 27 in his prime while Gasol is 32 on decline.

And Gasol does not make Toronto significantly better; they still arent winning ***** and probi still NOT make the playoffs.

But this trade works wonders for the Lakers. Giving the Lakers one of the best backup PGs in the league along with someone who screams "i should play next to Dwight" aka Bargnani.....all wrapped up in D'Antoni's system. Not so fast! I would try to get more from the Lakers. Since they always wanna rape everyone else in trades.

Cracka2HI!
12-06-2012, 12:37 AM
based on the lakers history they will probably trade gasol and steve blake for cp3 and blake griffin

Geez, can't at least give us Nash :mad: LOL

mamba24
12-06-2012, 12:52 AM
Bargs is terrible. Guy is struggling with his shot right now. Lakers have enough struggling shooters lol. Bargs also plays worse defense than Pau does. I dont like the idea of Bragnani. I do like Calderon tho. still not enough to make me want to trade Pau for him tho.

Johann
12-06-2012, 12:57 AM
Anybody watching the Raps-Kings game?

Bargs is tearing it up!

Ebbs
12-06-2012, 01:00 AM
I like it for both sides.

Jonas - Pau - Posey - DeRoz - Lowry

FriedTofuz
12-06-2012, 01:03 AM
i hope bargs goes on to shoot 3-19, almost bad as his 2-19 game.

Evolution23
12-06-2012, 01:11 AM
I'm not too high on Bargs... I'd love Ryan Anderson though

Ryan Anderson and his squad isn't too high on the Lakers though.

shep33
12-06-2012, 01:20 AM
Yeah I'd take Anderson over Bargs easily

jammastershake
12-06-2012, 01:27 AM
Great, another Pau Gasol/Lakers thread. Just what this forum needs.

Cal827
12-06-2012, 01:30 AM
Yeah I'd take Bargs over Anderson easily

Fixed :D

Sorry Shep :(

I just Hate Bargs so much! I love the idea that he could be traded to the Lakers in a deal that doesn't take our lotto picks away until 2021.

Bargs needs to get out of here faster than a Pimp needs to get out of a church :facepalm:

FriedTofuz
12-06-2012, 01:39 AM
I dont understand ****ing bryan colangelo, why not trade bargnani? your team is ****ing trash with bargnani, you're not a ****ing contender. JUST TRADE HIM, ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN THIS. **** BARGNANI, **** COLANGELO.

Cal827
12-06-2012, 01:43 AM
Laker fans, can we send you Brian Colangelo too, so he can just spend his time being Mitch's Bittch? I think we have a better chance at winning games with DoMeFavors as our GM.

RoyMunson
12-06-2012, 01:44 AM
Can we make this trade while pau is still injured? Cause i honestly think the raps will be better with pau on the DL than with bargs on the court

shep33
12-06-2012, 01:45 AM
Fixed :D

Sorry Shep :(

I just Hate Bargs so much! I love the idea that he could be traded to the Lakers in a deal that doesn't take our lotto picks away until 2021.

Bargs needs to get out of here faster than a Pimp needs to get out of a church :facepalm:

:laugh: No worries Cal.

Haha yeah, Ed Davis is playing so much better than Bargs. Does Casey not see this? Or is Colangelo forcing him to play Bargs?

I think he'll get moved by the deadline. Maybe to us who knows. But Colangelo needs to hang up if Mitch calls him. Bargs, Lowry, Calderon, and the Blue Jays (great offseason) will be going to the Lakers lol.

But in all seriousness, if it goes through, and I hope it doesn't, I could see it being Bargs + Calderon for Pau and Darius Morris or something. I'm just not a fan of Bargs at all lol.

DeyAce
12-06-2012, 01:49 AM
He needs to come to the chi

diu9leilomo
12-06-2012, 01:50 AM
please get it donnneee, bargs needs to GTFO of toronto. 90% of the fans here hates him

MackSnackWrap
12-06-2012, 01:54 AM
do they have primo pasta in la?

lol

heyman321
12-06-2012, 01:57 AM
That would be nice, but Bargnani and Colangelo blow each other daily, so it's not going to happen until Raptors Higher ups fire Colangelo himself, and Casey, then Bargnani's azz might be outta here finally.

shep33
12-06-2012, 01:59 AM
That would be nice, but Bargnani and Colangelo blow each other daily, so it's not going to happen until Raptors Higher ups fire Colangelo himself, and Casey, then Bargnani's azz might be outta here finally.

Interesting dynamic happening between those two. Any video evidence? I need to check this out for myself... Not that I'm interested in watching it. fkasjdf;sjk ... Sorry all this lotion on my mouse is causing some typing issues.

I mean... Ugh, how bout them Pelicans?

Lakersfan2483
12-06-2012, 02:03 AM
I hope the Lakers don't trade Pau for Bargs, terrible move if they do.

kblo247
12-06-2012, 02:11 AM
Like? The best I can come up with for them is a trade with Charlotte for Tyrus Thomas and Ben Gordon, a trade with Detroit for Prince and Villanueva or a trade with New York for Amaré.

I know Lakers have pulled off some hauls before, but they have no assets (owing picks for the next decade) and Pau is obviously in decline and super expensive.
AK, Ridnour, Williams, and cash plus picks from Minny for Pau and Blake?

Steelers23_06
12-06-2012, 02:26 AM
Every one is bashing this move but bargnani will help spread the floor and make them more fast paced and play into D'Antonis system better. He plays better with athletic power forwards and pau would be a perfect center for his system but number 12 is holding that down firm atleast until the end of the season. Plus they really need a back up point guard especially with an aging Nash. This is a really good trade for LA. If you can say another trade that's better explain but don't mention josh smith bc ferry isn't letting him go unless its free agency.

shep33
12-06-2012, 02:32 AM
Every one is bashing this move but bargnani will help spread the floor and make them more fast paced and play into D'Antonis system better. He plays better with athletic power forwards and pau would be a perfect center for his system but number 12 is holding that down firm atleast until the end of the season. Plus they really need a back up point guard especially with an aging Nash. This is a really good trade for LA. If you can say another trade that's better explain but don't mention josh smith bc ferry isn't letting him go unless its free agency.

Smith would be a really bad fit for LA. Defensively he'd be great, but the problem is he's going to have to knock down jumpers and Smith can't do that.

If we could get Ryan Anderson, that'd be ideal, but if not, we should just stick with Pau. Dude needed to rest after a long summer of playing for Spain.

Evolution23
12-06-2012, 02:37 AM
Why would the Raptors make this trade?

Captain Moroni
12-06-2012, 02:39 AM
Maybe it would be Lowry/Bargnani for Nash and Gasol - seeing as Nash's signing was contingent on Pau staying a Laker. It would be a dirty, smelly move by the Lakers, I could see it.

Maybe the promise was that Gasol wouldn't be traded in the D12 trade only?

Sadds The Gr8
12-06-2012, 03:09 AM
anything to get Barfnani off my team I'm down for. sick of that ****in **** sucker

FriedTofuz
12-06-2012, 03:20 AM
Why would the Raptors make this trade?

believe it or not, we're desperate, we hate bargnani. I rather trade bargnani + fields for gasol, that would be a fair deal since the raptors are taking hefty salary.

pd1dish
12-06-2012, 03:25 AM
new report is saying that Pau wont be traded. im not going to really pay attention to all this nonsense until i see a report of a trade offer being on the table.

albertajaysfan
12-06-2012, 03:26 AM
I like it. I actually think this trade would make us both better.

LA get a better fill in than they have till Nash returns and then have a solid back up PG. It allows Jamison to start with Bargs coming off the bench giving them 2 stretch 4s.

TOR get a solid centre to play in the post as well as mentor Valanciunas as he adjusts to the NBA game.

At this point I think both Pau and Bargs need fresh starts somewhere and I believe both of these guys would be successful in their new environments.

albertajaysfan
12-06-2012, 03:29 AM
believe it or not, we're desperate, we hate bargnani. I rather trade bargnani + fields for gasol, that would be a fair deal since the raptors are taking hefty salary.

That would be amazing but Kupchak isn't brain dead. Landry Fields is possibly the worst free agent signing in Raptor history. Which is a mind blowing accomplishment, although Hedo Turkoglu may not be willing to give up that title just yet.

NFLNBA
12-06-2012, 04:12 AM
Lakers need a PF that can shoot the 15 footer - 3 pt shot when open. I swear to god Gasol gets more open looks then anyone i have ever seen. They cant leave Howard on the screen and you cant leave Kobe ect Gasol is not a good consistant shooter even when WIDE open. Sometimes the better player in this Gasol isnt actually the better play for the team. Gasol needs to be the guy in the post and he doesnt get that in LA.

Dream case for LA - Aldridge

Do-able trades.....Ryan Anderson and B-gani

FriedTofuz
12-06-2012, 04:16 AM
lakers refused the raptors pitch of calderon, bargnani and klieza, they want to wait and see how gasol plays with a healthy nash.

3ballbomber
12-06-2012, 05:24 AM
The Raptors would likely build a trade for Gasol centered around Andrea Bargnani and Jose Calderon.

that would be a steal for Raptors. i'm not quite sure if LA improves especially in the playoffs when those two disappear :ohno:

U cannot replace extensive playoff experience. Gasol is valuable, it's just too bad LA has messed w/ Gasol mind so much that the guy plays w/ alot of doubt - no player plays well under those circumstances.

aussie
12-06-2012, 05:35 AM
I'm not too high on Bargs... I'd love Ryan Anderson though
lol goodluck

aussie
12-06-2012, 05:38 AM
Lakers fans give up on Anderson, you guys haven't got good enough pieces to offer us. stop thinking you can get whoever you want

ATLPRIMETIME21
12-06-2012, 05:38 AM
I still can't get over the fact that Bargnani was the #1 overall pick in the draft. I was in shock for days I would randomly say out loud "Did they really waste the #1 pick like that" then I would just laugh because. They could of taken Lamarcus Aldridge, Rudy Gay, Brandon Roy who now would have been a bad choice but then not at all

shep33
12-06-2012, 05:39 AM
Anderson would be sweet, but his playoff performances worry me a lot.

Losoway
12-06-2012, 05:49 AM
lmao if u call gasol soft....imagine this trade

3ballbomber
12-06-2012, 06:09 AM
Lakers fans give up on Anderson, you guys haven't got good enough pieces to offer us. stop thinking you can get whoever you want

they CAN, they HAVE & they probably WILL lol

BALLER R
12-06-2012, 06:13 AM
I've always said if Andrea played with Howard he might become unstoppable because he has it in him. Just his mind set is I don't give a damn. Then again maybe he needs someone like Kobe to light a fire under his *** because every damn body in Toronto's organization seems to only be kissing it.

mvb815
12-06-2012, 06:31 AM
Bargnani would get destroyed by Kobe. Kobe will call him out everyday to the media.

Kobe is most likely to be quick friends with bargs considering he speaks Italian

STL Don
12-06-2012, 06:40 AM
If a trade between LA and Toronto went down, I'd like to see Gasol, Ebanks and Morris traded for Bargs, Calderon, Kleiza and Ross.

Steve Nash-Jose Calderon-Chris Duhon-Steve Blake
Kobe Bryant-Terrence Ross-Jodie Meeks
Ron Artest-Linas Kleiza-Earl Clark
Andrea Bargnani-Antawn Jameison
Dwight Howard-Jordan Hill-Robert Sacre

Kyle Lowry-Darius Morris-John Lucas
DeMarr DeRozan-Landry Fields-Alan Anderson
Mickael Pietrus-Devin Ebanks-Dominic McGuire
Pau Gasol-Amir Johnson-Ed Davis
Jonas Valanciunas-Aaron Gray

Toronto already has DeRozan as their starting shooting guard and some quality backups in Mickael Pietrus, Landry Fields and Alan Anderson. There's depth which allows them to add Ross in the deal to spice up the trade with the Lakers. He was a lottery pick and could learn under Kobe's wing, as well with Nash.
The Lakers have a log jam at point guard and Morris is probably our best available bench player that we can afford to offer back. He's a younger PG who is a work in progress and has the potential to be a serviceable backup throughout his career or even a decent starter if he can continue to improve and seizes the opportunity. Ebanks will get a fresh start and Gasol COULD be revived with love from the fans and possibly a few big games early on could get him going...a deal like this could set them up for a few possible playoff runs led by their own "Canadian Big 3" of Lowry/DeRozan/Gasol.

Six-8-TheWizard
12-06-2012, 08:26 AM
If a trade between LA and Toronto went down, I'd like to see Gasol, Ebanks and Morris traded for Bargs, Calderon, Kleiza and Ross.

Steve Nash-Jose Calderon-Chris Duhon-Steve Blake
Kobe Bryant-Terrence Ross-Jodie Meeks
Ron Artest-Linas Kleiza-Earl Clark
Andrea Bargnani-Antawn Jameison
Dwight Howard-Jordan Hill-Robert Sacre

Kyle Lowry-Darius Morris-John Lucas
DeMarr DeRozan-Landry Fields-Alan Anderson
Mickael Pietrus-Devin Ebanks-Dominic McGuire
Pau Gasol-Amir Johnson-Ed Davis
Jonas Valanciunas-Aaron Gray

Toronto already has DeRozan as their starting shooting guard and some quality backups in Mickael Pietrus, Landry Fields and Alan Anderson. There's depth which allows them to add Ross in the deal to spice up the trade with the Lakers. He was a lottery pick and could learn under Kobe's wing, as well with Nash.
The Lakers have a log jam at point guard and Morris is probably our best available bench player that we can afford to offer back. He's a younger PG who is a work in progress and has the potential to be a serviceable backup throughout his career or even a decent starter if he can continue to improve and seizes the opportunity. Ebanks will get a fresh start and Gasol COULD be revived with love from the fans and possibly a few big games early on could get him going...a deal like this could set them up for a few possible playoff runs led by their own "Canadian Big 3" of Lowry/DeRozan/Gasol.

No offence, but theres absolutely no way the Raptors would include Ross in that deal, especially if they were already giving up Jose and Kleiza. With Gasol already 32, with lingering knee injuries, not currently playing well and owed that much money still, he is not worth giving up the guy we just used our 8th pick on.

I lol'd at Canadian Big 3 though :laugh2:

uprightciti
12-06-2012, 08:42 AM
This is hilarious people are CRAZY to think Gasol has the value of 2 raptor starters
This dude just beat out Joe Johnson and Am are as worst NBA contract
Working with 3 of the best in the game and can't get it done
Also Howard is exposed

Mcdoh
12-06-2012, 09:37 AM
if lakers trade with the raptors maybe d'antoni would request for fields to be included in the package.. since fields played well under d'antoni..

pappie04
12-06-2012, 09:40 AM
if lakers trade with the raptors maybe d'antoni would request for fields to be included in the package.. since fields played well under d'antoni..

Plus the Raptors would love to dump that dumb contract on the Lakers anyway.

bucketss
12-06-2012, 09:52 AM
lakers refused the raptors pitch of calderon, bargnani and klieza, they want to wait and see how gasol plays with a healthy nash.

how do you know raptors offered that:confused:

Heediot
12-06-2012, 09:54 AM
if lakers trade with the raptors maybe d'antoni would request for fields to be included in the package.. since fields played well under d'antoni..

Bargnani/Fields/A. Gray and 2nd round pick (close to late first as of now) for Gasol.

bucketss
12-06-2012, 09:55 AM
bargnani either sucks real bad or is tanking so we can trade him to LA.

dalton749
12-06-2012, 10:07 AM
theyve changed up the offence in toronto and bargnani isnt getting the ball where he likes it anymore so its basically stand there and space the floor for the rest of the team and if the ball happens to come to you chuck up a shot from the outside. hes being way under utilized when the only thing he does well is score

treeleaf
12-06-2012, 10:18 AM
theyve changed up the offence in toronto and bargnani isnt getting the ball where he likes it anymore so its basically stand there and space the floor for the rest of the team and if the ball happens to come to you chuck up a shot from the outside. hes being way under utilized when the only thing he does well is score

Ya well the problem is hes not even good at scoring anymore. The guy is like 5/10 scorer and a -1/10 rebounder. Not to mention the fact he looks scared to step on any guy over 6.5

Faabs89
12-06-2012, 10:21 AM
LOL I posted this a week ago and it got closed within an hour...

TO Rapz
12-06-2012, 10:47 AM
:sigh: Trade ANDREA BARGNANI OR FIRE BC, then TRADE ANDREA BARGNANI,

LakersMaster24
12-06-2012, 10:56 AM
Bargnani will get eaten alive by LA fans.

ghettosean
12-06-2012, 11:17 AM
I've been talking about this for a while but I don't think we give up those 2 just for Pau...

Calderon and Bargs straight up for Gasol wouldn't be a fair trade and I'm sure all Laker fans are drooling at the prospect of that happening straight up but

A fair trade for both sides would be:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=77s44by

Both sides still get what they want since Steve Nash is hurt Calderon can run D'Antoni's offense and Bargs would be a lights out shooter for L.A because he wouldn't be a #1 option anymore and would not get doubled (which is bringing his shooting % down). Put Bargs in a position to not be the focus of attention and he will shine on L.A and spread the floor so D12 gets easy dunks.

The Raptors get a SF that they desperately need and we get a proven star in Gasol who I think would be happier here than taking all the heat he's getting in L.A.

ghettosean
12-06-2012, 11:20 AM
Bargnani/Fields/A. Gray and 2nd round pick (close to late first as of now) for Gasol.
I'd dig that trade! Can't happen though since the Raps just signed fields this season.

ACanadian
12-06-2012, 11:23 AM
Bargnani will get eaten alive by LA fans.

He will, and it will be a glorious day

C_Mund
12-06-2012, 11:24 AM
I wouldnt do that move if im Toronto. Gasol looks horrible out there and is currently playing worst than Bargnani. Bargs is 27 in his prime while Gasol is 32 on decline.

And Gasol does not make Toronto significantly better; they still arent winning ***** and probi still NOT make the playoffs.

But this trade works wonders for the Lakers. Giving the Lakers one of the best backup PGs in the league along with someone who screams "i should play next to Dwight" aka Bargnani.....all wrapped up in D'Antoni's system. Not so fast! I would try to get more from the Lakers. Since they always wanna rape everyone else in trades.

I can see where you're coming from but the fact remains that the Raps NEED a solid offensive option. Other than Bargs all of our big men are energy guys and don't create on the offensive side. That's why we always lose close games, because our best option is a guard/wing pulling up or trying to get into traffic. We haven't had somebody that can score from close to the basket since Bosh, and even he was a stretch 4

ZHawk1123
12-06-2012, 11:27 AM
Bargnani is exactly the kind of PF that you pair with Dwight Howard...

At the rate Pau is declining I think this trade makes a lot of sense.

BALLER R
12-06-2012, 11:28 AM
I'd dig that trade! Can't happen though since the Raps just signed fields this season.

Doesn't contract signed in the off season become trade able on the 15th or something like that.

bucketss
12-06-2012, 11:28 AM
Bargnani/Fields/A. Gray and 2nd round pick (close to late first as of now) for Gasol.

usually its the lakers raping teams in trades.

C_Mund
12-06-2012, 11:33 AM
This is hilarious people are CRAZY to think Gasol has the value of 2 raptor starters
This dude just beat out Joe Johnson and Am are as worst NBA contract
Working with 3 of the best in the game and can't get it done
Also Howard is exposed

I think everybody involved would need a change of scenery. Pau would give the Raps a conventional player at the 4, which they haven't had in a decade (no offense to the Bosh era, loved that guy but he played further from the basket than most 4's), Bargs would thrive with Howard beside him, and Jose seems to be mostly left out of this conversation but he's a beast offensive player. His 1-on-1 defense is pretty laughable, but in a good system with a player like Dwight behind him it would be manageable.

Actually that would be the worst part of this trade as a Raptors fan, seeing Calderon put some other team's jersey on. I think anybody that ends up with this guy will be amazed at how much better he looks when you see him play day in and out. Passionate guy, great teammate.

FriedTofuz
12-06-2012, 12:42 PM
how do you know raptors offered that:confused:

i posted the link to the article.


Stretch power forward Andrea Bargnani, veteran point guard Jose Calderon and fellow vet Linas Kleiza are among the players, sources say, that the Raptors have discussed making available to the Lakers in a deal for Gasol.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8719587/los-angeles-lakers-rebuffing-trade-inquiries-pau-gasol

AddiX
12-06-2012, 12:53 PM
Isn't Toronto trying install a similar system to mike ds?

BHF
12-06-2012, 01:07 PM
Laker fans you are not getting Lowry and Ross stop dreaming

DoMeFavors
12-06-2012, 01:08 PM
Calderon, Klezia and barngani all fit Mikes System and are shooters for Dwight, makes sense it gives them the best back up PG in the league and a good bench scorer.

rapjuicer06
12-06-2012, 01:09 PM
Lakers should trade with Atlanta. Gasol for Smith. Horford goes back to PF, Gasol at Center...very good front court combo there. Lakers get J-Smoove and pair him with Dwight. Great defense and rebounding there.

Lakerfrk
12-06-2012, 01:33 PM
Lakers should trade with Atlanta. Gasol for Smith. Horford goes back to PF, Gasol at Center...very good front court combo there. Lakers get J-Smoove and pair him with Dwight. Great defense and rebounding there.

Hawks have said numerous times that they are not interested in this...

John Walls Era
12-06-2012, 01:45 PM
Gasol is obviously more skilled. But Michelle Clowntonio uses Gasol as a jump shooter. So this would actually work.

scaramantula
12-06-2012, 02:22 PM
i posted the link to the article.


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8719587/los-angeles-lakers-rebuffing-trade-inquiries-pau-gasol

both klieza and calderon? that seems a bit much, we should keep one of them, or else whose gonna carry the ball? aside form lowry of corse

Gram
12-06-2012, 02:23 PM
I can't see it.

ghettosean
12-06-2012, 02:44 PM
both klieza and calderon? that seems a bit much, we should keep one of them, or else whose gonna carry the ball? aside form lowry of corse
Actually Bargs, Calderon and Klieza wouldn't work straight up for Pau... They are over the luxury tax and would be taking on more saleries... The lakers would have to throw someone else in like....

Metta World Peace!!!

Then it's a good trade for both parties.

Freakazoid
12-06-2012, 02:47 PM
Isn't Toronto trying install a similar system to mike ds?

Maybe back in 2006-2008.

Stinkyoutsider
12-06-2012, 02:54 PM
If I'm the Lakers, I don't make this trade but I would have been tempted to do the deal if I could get a 7 footer in return who could do more than just stretch the floor. The Lakers had a smaller version of this in Troy Murphy last year and it didn't work out for them.

They should keep Gasol and continue to work on team chemistry. I think Gasol has to change his way of thinking now and be more agressive. On the boards, defensively, and especially on offense. He's got too many skills in the post (high or low) to let Howard dominate that area. I wouldn't care if he was the best big in the world, I would be the most effective big in the world (Gasol should think this way).

shep33
12-06-2012, 02:58 PM
Actually Bargs, Calderon and Klieza wouldn't work straight up for Pau... They are over the luxury tax and would be taking on more saleries... The lakers would have to throw someone else in like....

Metta World Peace!!!

Then it's a good trade for both parties.

Blake would be involved too. I'm guessing we'd throw in a guy like Morris as well.

310Casper
12-06-2012, 03:00 PM
please dont trade world peace, he's been one of our best players this year.

jesus...

Sly Guy
12-06-2012, 03:29 PM
BC won't trade bargs and caldy in that type of deal. Toronto would not plug 2 holes in the lakers's roster in a single deal. Worse, I'm not even sure after the disastrous start to the season that BC is even considering dealing Bargnani. Don't get me wrong, Caldy and Bargnani would both look good in LA [offensively at least], and the Toronto fan base badly wants rid of Bargnani, but the decision making of BC is being called into question.

If a deal were to go down, I imagine it'd be part of a 3-way deal of some kind, which is a trademark of a Colangelo move. Probably resulting in Toronto taking back shorter term contracts and less player value at the cost of Bargs, Jose, and one of our bad contracts [fields, keiza etc]

greg_ory_2005
12-06-2012, 03:53 PM
Colangelo will never trade away his son. He loves him way too much.

spreadeagle
12-06-2012, 04:31 PM
The people who say Ryan Anderson is better than Bargs are nutz, Im not even a huge Bargnani fan but he can score 22-25 ppg a game with defences focusing on him, he would be awesome as a third fourth guy on that Laker sqaud, would easily put up 20 ppg, would stretch the D for Howard and his lack of rebounding would not look so bad paired with one of the best rebounders in the game. Yes Kobe might destroy him for his lack of passion, effort on D ect..but Kobe speaks Italian, maybe that would be a bonding thing...Im luke warm on Gasol, but at this point why not, The Raps team is TERRIBLE and I dont know why. Derozan is playing better than ever, Lowry is beasting, Valanciunas looks good, Bargs has been decent...they just dont click

ChongInc.
12-06-2012, 04:48 PM
i hope toronto doesnt make this move and they keep losing to have a bottom 3 pick and pick up a SF. we're one piece away and that 1 piece is not gasol. if we're giving you bargs, then we're keeping calderon to play with gasol. id only give you bargs, fields, and amir for gasol, other than that you can go see who else wants him.

Mr.SmackYoMama
12-06-2012, 04:57 PM
You know, I would think hard about this trade if I were Mitch.

Maybe try and squeeze a future pick out of it as well. Calderon- Bargs, and say what a 2014 or 2015 first rounder? I do that deal as a Laker fan is Pau's struggles continue to midseason. If you can't get a first out of them, try and snatch some more depth. Perhaps convince the Raptors to take on Blake or Duhon and/or bring back Kleiza, who could do well with some floor spacing.

An intriguing thought should Pau's struggles continue on. Calderon would be the key in the trade, giving the Lakers an excellent bench player.

I want some of whatever the ******* you're smoking!!!!!!!!!!

ChongInc.
12-06-2012, 04:58 PM
something like this:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d7uwk9e
but fields when hes eligable instead of kleiza

C_Mund
12-06-2012, 05:15 PM
i hope toronto doesnt make this move and they keep losing to have a bottom 3 pick and pick up a SF. we're one piece away and that 1 piece is not gasol. if we're giving you bargs, then we're keeping calderon to play with gasol. id only give you bargs, fields, and amir for gasol, other than that you can go see who else wants him.

I wish I had the same outlook as you but a bottom-3 team is not 1 piece away. Something's gotta give, and I doubt another rookie will be enough

FriedTofuz
12-06-2012, 05:18 PM
to people who say valauncuinas looks good, he hasnt been that great at all, hes had a few decent games. his number arent that good, and he isnt even a good rebounder

marvILLous
12-06-2012, 05:19 PM
The people who say Ryan Anderson is better than Bargs are nutz, Im not even a huge Bargnani fan but he can score 22-25 ppg a game with defences focusing on him, he would be awesome as a third fourth guy on that Laker sqaud, would easily put up 20 ppg, would stretch the D for Howard and his lack of rebounding would not look so bad paired with one of the best rebounders in the game. Yes Kobe might destroy him for his lack of passion, effort on D ect..but Kobe speaks Italian, maybe that would be a bonding thing...Im luke warm on Gasol, but at this point why not, The Raps team is TERRIBLE and I dont know why. Derozan is playing better than ever, Lowry is beasting, Valanciunas looks good, Bargs has been decent...they just dont click
Don't false advertise now.. Barg has never scored 22-25 PPG lol. But i agree that he would do much better beside Dwight.. not a 20 PPG scorer, but somewhere around 15.

Always thought barg would have been perfect for dwight in orlando, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in LA too.

Sssmush
12-06-2012, 05:30 PM
How about Pau to Washington Wizards, for Nene and Ariza ?

Or if not that, more of a defensive athletic banger PF type rather than the "stretch 4" guy like Bargnani, who might wind up being another of these inconsistent floaty type players

spreadeagle
12-06-2012, 05:33 PM
Don't false advertise now.. Barg has never scored 22-25 PPG lol. But i agree that he would do much better beside Dwight.. not a 20 PPG scorer, but somewhere around 15.

Always thought barg would have been perfect for dwight in orlando, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in LA too.

in 2010/11 averaged 22 a game and slightly less following year..hes a chucker tho, I think a lot of ppl could get those numbers on bad teams

Sssmush
12-06-2012, 05:35 PM
or a deal with Charlotte including Mullens maybe...

trini_knickfan
12-06-2012, 05:35 PM
Do they have Primo Pasta in LA?

I actually got that joke lol

Bruno
12-06-2012, 05:55 PM
How about Pau to Washington Wizards, for Nene and Ariza ?

Or if not that, more of a defensive athletic banger PF type rather than the "stretch 4" guy like Bargnani, who might wind up being another of these inconsistent floaty type players

hey, thats an interesting one i havent heard yet.

bucketss
12-06-2012, 06:05 PM
what do you guys think of this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cl349wc

toronto gets a young former 2nd pick along with an aging pau.
minny gets the best back up in the biz and the spanish connection with rubio if they run
a two pg lineup at times. they give up a forward who they dont give much minutes to.
lakers get their man bargnani plus a solid back up in ridnour

Johann
12-06-2012, 06:15 PM
what do you guys think of this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cl349wc

toronto gets a young former 2nd pick along with an aging pau.
minny gets the best back up in the biz and the spanish connection with rubio if they run
a two pg lineup at times. they give up a forward who they dont give much minutes to.
lakers get their man bargnani plus a solid back up in ridnour

I would personally love that trade.

smith&wesson
12-06-2012, 06:17 PM
as a toronto fan i worry about gasol being 32 and having issues with both knees.

also if were going after gasol it would make sence to keep calderon as they have chemistry together.

i would do a deal including bargs and fields + cash. bargs would be the perfect piece beside howard and would fit dantoni's system perfectly as well.

fields can come off the bench for world peace or bryant at the 2 or 3 and adds some deptch for the lakers second unit.

bootleg42
12-06-2012, 06:36 PM
Wow. The Raptors really know how to stay irrelevant in the league.

kenzo400
12-06-2012, 06:40 PM
what do you guys think of this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cl349wc

toronto gets a young former 2nd pick along with an aging pau.
minny gets the best back up in the biz and the spanish connection with rubio if they run
a two pg lineup at times. they give up a forward who they dont give much minutes to.
lakers get their man bargnani plus a solid back up in ridnour

So Minnesota would be giving away the second pick for Calderon? No way in hell they are going to do that lol

Raidaz4Life
12-06-2012, 06:49 PM
what do you guys think of this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cl349wc

toronto gets a young former 2nd pick along with an aging pau.
minny gets the best back up in the biz and the spanish connection with rubio if they run
a two pg lineup at times. they give up a forward who they dont give much minutes to.
lakers get their man bargnani plus a solid back up in ridnour

Lol that is a terrible trade for everyone but Toronto.


I'm not sure why Raptor fans think Gasol isn't worth Bargnani, Calderon, and Fields. Fields is worthless to them and a bad contract, Bargnani has another year on his contract than Gasol, and Calderon is as good as gone after the season. With Pau they get an all star center who is only struggling because the Lakers are more committed to Dwight than using Gasol properly and if it doesn't work out then they have a 19 mil expiring next season which could be amazingly valuable.

Gasol would easily get Toronto into the playoffs in the East imo.

AddiX
12-06-2012, 06:51 PM
So Minnesota would be giving away the second pick for Calderon? No way in hell they are going to do that lol

Tbh calderon is better than the 2nd pick.

But the trade makes no sense for minny either way.

bucketss
12-06-2012, 06:59 PM
So Minnesota would be giving away the second pick for Calderon? No way in hell they are going to do that lol

they hardly play him i think they want to win now imo. plus calderon is a huge expiring valuable to low market teams like minny.

bucketss
12-06-2012, 07:03 PM
Lol that is a terrible trade for everyone but Toronto.


I'm not sure why Raptor fans think Gasol isn't worth Bargnani, Calderon, and Fields. Fields is worthless to them and a bad contract, Bargnani has another year on his contract than Gasol, and Calderon is as good as gone after the season. With Pau they get an all star center who is only struggling because the Lakers are more committed to Dwight than using Gasol properly and if it doesn't work out then they have a 19 mil expiring next season which could be amazingly valuable.

Gasol would easily get Toronto into the playoffs in the East imo.

i don't know about that i think we dug ourselves too big of a hole lol.

kenzo400
12-06-2012, 07:05 PM
Tbh calderon is better than the 2nd pick.

But the trade makes no sense for minny either way.

Williams has yet to prove himself but he is only in his sophmore season and has huge potential. His trade value is definitely higher than Calderons. They might want to "win" now but not "win a championship" Calderon is not going to help the team that much, especially considering Rubio is going to come back soon and then Calderon is worthless. In fact it's better for them to hold on to Ridnour who is an excellent shooting pg off the bench, while having Rubio be the main assist leader.

In this case Calderon is pointless.

smith&wesson
12-06-2012, 07:11 PM
if toronto wants gasol they should keep calderon. it makes sence to have them play together.

Sssmush
12-06-2012, 07:17 PM
what do you guys think of this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cl349wc

toronto gets a young former 2nd pick along with an aging pau.
minny gets the best back up in the biz and the spanish connection with rubio if they run
a two pg lineup at times. they give up a forward who they dont give much minutes to.
lakers get their man bargnani plus a solid back up in ridnour

That's pretty neat trick, the way we send out Pau at $19M but manage to bring back only $14.5M.

I checked and the Nene+Ariza trade works as well; not sure if Washington would go for that though. It would likely benefit both teams.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=as9fvbl

Although mine does say negative -7 wins for the Lakers, while yours said plus +2 wins for the Lakers, so yours is better, allegedly.

ACanadian
12-06-2012, 07:32 PM
I would personally love that trade.

That would be a wet dream for Toronto

Rego247
12-06-2012, 07:35 PM
Lol that is a terrible trade for everyone but Toronto.


I'm not sure why Raptor fans think Gasol isn't worth Bargnani, Calderon, and Fields. Fields is worthless to them and a bad contract, Bargnani has another year on his contract than Gasol, and Calderon is as good as gone after the season. With Pau they get an all star center who is only struggling because the Lakers are more committed to Dwight than using Gasol properly and if it doesn't work out then they have a 19 mil expiring next season which could be amazingly valuable.

Gasol would easily get Toronto into the playoffs in the East imo.

No he wouldn't.

monty77
12-07-2012, 11:28 AM
It would be interesting Bargiani - Howard duo because Andrea can shot like Ryan Anderson and this is the kind of team mate who need Howard playing as PF.

However, Bargiani has been playing at center position in last years and he isn't the shot of player who D'Antoni desire since he isn't very athletic. Besides, he has a expensive, long contract. Neither Calderon nor Bargiani is able to improve this performance so I don't think this signing to become favorite to the Lakers.

Of course, Calderon is better than Blake, and he along with Nash is the kind of point guard that Kobe need, but Calderon fulfill this contract year and he will probably refuse stay with Lakers if they keep Nash.

By other hand, it's hard to believe that Raptors are interested in Pau Gasol as he isn't the type of player who they need to rebuilding a team. He probably left NBA in 2014-15 season so Raptors just have gotten rid of Bargiani's contract.

Sly Guy
12-07-2012, 01:49 PM
It would be interesting Bargiani - Howard duo because Andrea can shot like Ryan Anderson and this is the kind of team mate who need Howard playing as PF.

However, Bargiani has been playing at center position in last years and he isn't the shot of player who D'Antoni desire since he isn't very athletic. Besides, he has a expensive, long contract. Neither Calderon nor Bargiani is able to improve this performance so I don't think this signing to become favorite to the Lakers.

Of course, Calderon is better than Blake, and he along with Nash is the kind of point guard that Kobe need, but Calderon fulfill this contract year and he will probably refuse stay with Lakers if they keep Nash.

By other hand, it's hard to believe that Raptors are interested in Pau Gasol as he isn't the type of player who they need to rebuilding a team. He probably left NBA in 2014-15 season so Raptors just have gotten rid of Bargiani's contract.

Calderon has been starting and coming off the bench his entire career. He's a a pro in all senses of the word and will take the role any team gives them and play his best regardless.

Bargnani has been playing center, but he's naturally a PF, he prefers to play there, and the raps have tried to accommodate him. He may not be athletic, but he still can attack the rim from time to time [should be able to do this more freely in LA where defenses aren't keyed on him as the #1 guy].

The raptors are interested in Gasol because he isn't Bargnani. Bargnani is not someone you build around, and currently he's the #1 guy [unjustifiably so] and his team's record shows that he isn't the leader they need. Gasol to Toronto does 2 things.
#1, he's a big body capable of playing in the paint. He gets rebounds, plays the post, and believe it or not, is an upgrade in terms of protecting the rim.
#2, he's old, and may not be in the long term plans, but with $20mil for the next 2 seasons, he doesn't handicap the franchise in the long-term, and he is movable should the Raptors choose to flip him for picks or other assets.

bucketss
12-07-2012, 01:56 PM
It would be interesting Bargiani - Howard duo because Andrea can shot like Ryan Anderson and this is the kind of team mate who need Howard playing as PF.

However, Bargiani has been playing at center position in last years and he isn't the shot of player who D'Antoni desire since he isn't very athletic. Besides, he has a expensive, long contract. Neither Calderon nor Bargiani is able to improve this performance so I don't think this signing to become favorite to the Lakers.

Of course, Calderon is better than Blake, and he along with Nash is the kind of point guard that Kobe need, but Calderon fulfill this contract year and he will probably refuse stay with Lakers if they keep Nash.

By other hand, it's hard to believe that Raptors are interested in Pau Gasol as he isn't the type of player who they need to rebuilding a team. He probably left NBA in 2014-15 season so Raptors just have gotten rid of Bargiani's contract.

hes actually pretty athletic just not on defense

C_Mund
12-07-2012, 02:07 PM
hes actually pretty athletic just not on defense

Yeah his first step is deceptively fast, and even smaller guys get blown by when AB gets the ball 17 feet from the rim. That slow pump fake of his is his bread and butter