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JordansBulls
12-04-2012, 10:24 AM
1985: Patrick Ewing
1986: Brad Daugherty
1987: David Robinson
1988: Danny Manning
1989: Pervis Ellison
1990: Derrick Coleman
1991: Larry Johnson
1992: Shaquille O'Neal
1993: Chris Webber
1994: Glenn Robinson
1995: Joe Smith
1996: Allen Iverson
1997: Tim Duncan
1998: Michael Olowokandi
1999: Elton Brand
2000: Kenyon Martin
2001: Kwame Brown
2002: Yao Ming
2003: LeBron James
2004: Dwight Howard
2005: Andrew Bogut
2006: Andrea Bargnani
2007: Greg Oden
2008: Derrick Rose
2009: Blake Griffin
2010: John Wall
2011: Kyrie Irving

JordansBulls
12-04-2012, 10:24 AM
My list top 10

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron
4. Robinson
5. Ewing
6. Webber
7. Dwight
8. Yao
9. Rose
10. Iverson

stawka
12-04-2012, 10:34 AM
Careers? Prime? Who I would draft?

NJrockPD
12-04-2012, 10:56 AM
1. Shaquille O'Neal
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Patrick Ewing
5. David Robinson
6. Derrick Rose
7. Yao Ming
8. Allen Iverson
9. Dwight Howard
10. Chris Webber

Honorable Mention: Larry Johnson

JasonJohnHorn
12-04-2012, 10:57 AM
Duncan/Robinson/Shaq/LBJ
Everybody else.

mightybosstone
12-04-2012, 11:15 AM
My list top 10

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron
4. Robinson
5. Ewing
6. Webber
7. Dwight
8. Yao
9. Rose
10. Iverson

This is a pretty solid list, although if I'm going off of potential, I'd put Lebron first and then the rest. Irving and Davis are obviously the two wild cards. The two of them and Rose (if he gets healthy) have the potential to rise to the top five of this list by the end of their careers.

Heediot
12-04-2012, 11:17 AM
1997: Tim Duncan
1992: Shaquille O'Neal
2003: LeBron James
1987: David Robinson
1985: Patrick Weing
2004: Dwight Howard (projected after career finishes same application as everyone else on the list)
2008: Derrick Rose
1996: Allen Iverson
1993: Chris Webber
2011: Kyrie Irving
2009: Blake Griffin
2002: Yao Ming
1999: Elton Brand
1986: Brad Daugherty
1991: Larry Johnson
2010: John Wall
1994: Glenn Robinson
2000: Kenyon Martin
2005: Andrew Bogut
1988: Danny Manning
1995: Joe Smith
1990: Derrick Coleman
2006: Andrea Bargnani
1989: Pervis Ellison
1998: Michael Olowokandi
2001: Kwame Brown

2007: Greg Oden DNF

ManRam
12-04-2012, 11:24 AM
Treating this as "who would I draft if all these guys were in the same draft class"...

Off the top of the head, so don't be too mad!

1997: Tim Duncan
1992: Shaquille O'Neal
2003: LeBron James
1987: David Robinson
1985: Patrick Ewing
2004: Dwight Howard
1993: Chris Webber
2002: Yao Ming
2008: Derrick Rose
1996: Allen Iverson
2011: Kyrie Irving
2009: Blake Griffin
1994: Glenn Robinson
1999: Elton Brand
2005: Andrew Bogut
1991: Larry Johnson
2010: John Wall
2000: Kenyon Martin
1986: Brad Daugherty
1988: Danny Manning
1990: Derrick Coleman
2006: Andrea Bargnani
1995: Joe Smith
1989: Pervis Ellison
2001: Kwame Brown
1998: Michael Olowokandi
2007: Greg Oden

BALLER R
12-04-2012, 11:36 AM
Wait what's the criteria. Some guys are still in the league so is this based on no NBA experience but what they did in high school and College?

AYozzy
12-04-2012, 11:36 AM
Shaq
LeBron
Duncan
Robinson
Ewing
Rose
Dwight
AI
C. Webb
Irving
Wall

Schulte212
12-04-2012, 11:38 AM
Tim Duncan is without a doubt one of the best players ever, but would you guys seriously take him over a young Shaq? The general consensus seems to be that Shaq underachieved, but even so, he still has as many titles as Duncan. The guy was so dominant, I think he is the clear cut number one right now.

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. LeBron
4. Robinson

knicks=love
12-04-2012, 11:40 AM
1. Greg Oden
2. Michael Olowokandi
3. Kwame Brown
4. Andrew Bogut
5. Pervis Ellison
6. Andrea Bargnani
7. Elton Brand
8. Joe Smith
9. Kenyon Martin
10. Larry Johnson

ManRam
12-04-2012, 12:47 PM
Tim Duncan is without a doubt one of the best players ever, but would you guys seriously take him over a young Shaq? The general consensus seems to be that Shaq underachieved, but even so, he still has as many titles as Duncan. The guy was so dominant, I think he is the clear cut number one right now.

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. LeBron
4. Robinson

Well, most of this is hindsight. It's really close, and I do agree that at the time if the two were in the same class it would be hard to convince anyone to take Duncan over Shaq. But, with hindsight, if you're a smaller market team, taking Duncan makes more sense. Shaq wanted Hollywood, Duncan doesn't. More teams would be wise taking Duncan over Shaq because of that.

Also, while it might be foolish to worry what the player will do 15 years after you draft him, I think Duncan's sustained success helps his case too.

LongWayFromHome
12-04-2012, 02:28 PM
I'm surprised nobody is putting Shaq over Duncan. They won the same amount of rings. Shaq had a FAR BETTER prime. Duncan has been good longer but still. Shaq won 4 rings during Duncan's prime. I'm not saying he should be higher, I'm just saying I'm surprised nobody thinks so.

Talick
12-04-2012, 02:39 PM
Putting Oden at the bottom of the list is unwarranted. It's hard to fight a debilitating knee. He had all the talent to be great. you can't knock him for that.

sep11ie
12-04-2012, 02:58 PM
Putting Oden at the bottom of the list is unwarranted. It's hard to fight a debilitating knee. He had all the talent to be great. you can't knock him for that.

You also can't put him ahead of better players because of that.

miller74
12-04-2012, 03:08 PM
Huge Duncan fan, but him over Shaq is tough, quite the debate there in itself

miller74
12-04-2012, 03:09 PM
1. Shaquille O'Neal
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Patrick Ewing
5. David Robinson
6. Derrick Rose
7. Yao Ming
8. Allen Iverson
9. Dwight Howard
10. Chris Webber

Honorable Mention: Larry Johnson

hahahahaha best sig ever

todu82
12-04-2012, 03:15 PM
Top 10:

1) O'neal
2) Duncan
3) Lebron
4) Ewing
5) Robinson
6) Iverson
7) Howard
8) Webber
9) Ming
10) Rose

Rivera
12-04-2012, 03:16 PM
It depends....who has home court advantage?

JordansBulls
12-04-2012, 03:27 PM
I'm surprised nobody is putting Shaq over Duncan. They won the same amount of rings. Shaq had a FAR BETTER prime. Duncan has been good longer but still. Shaq won 4 rings during Duncan's prime. I'm not saying he should be higher, I'm just saying I'm surprised nobody thinks so.

You can but since it is a draft of #1 picks, Duncan has had arguably a better career and more likely will stick with your franchise.

topdog
12-04-2012, 03:35 PM
Tim Duncan is without a doubt one of the best players ever, but would you guys seriously take him over a young Shaq? The general consensus seems to be that Shaq underachieved, but even so, he still has as many titles as Duncan. The guy was so dominant, I think he is the clear cut number one right now.

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. LeBron
4. Robinson

I was thinking the same thing about Shaq. One of the most dominant players ever.


Well, most of this is hindsight. It's really close, and I do agree that at the time if the two were in the same class it would be hard to convince anyone to take Duncan over Shaq. But, with hindsight, if you're a smaller market team, taking Duncan makes more sense. Shaq wanted Hollywood, Duncan doesn't. More teams would be wise taking Duncan over Shaq because of that.

Also, while it might be foolish to worry what the player will do 15 years after you draft him, I think Duncan's sustained success helps his case too.

Fair point i.e. Shaq's need for the spotlight.

Sactown
12-04-2012, 03:50 PM
My list might have MJ in it.... To bad he wasn't good enough to go in the 1st round :rolleyes: , but if he did

Lebron
Shaq
Duncan
MJ

Talick
12-04-2012, 03:56 PM
You also can't put him ahead of better players because of that.

...like Kwame Brown?

Everybody's so quick to take a crap on Oden. He had a superstar drafted right behind him, tough luck. His skillset, with no doubt, warranted a top 2 pick in that draft. I would've drafted him #1.

sep11ie
12-04-2012, 03:56 PM
^I'm not crapping on him, but how many games did he play in?

sep11ie
12-04-2012, 03:57 PM
My list might have MJ in it.... To bad he wasn't good enough to go in the 1st round :rolleyes: , but if he did

Lebron
Shaq
Duncan
MJ

Ummm, what?

noodle
12-04-2012, 04:22 PM
How the F are some of you putting Rose over Iverson already? Seriously?

Sactown
12-04-2012, 04:28 PM
Ummm, what?

I meant 1st overall!

JordansBulls
12-04-2012, 05:04 PM
My list might have MJ in it.... To bad he wasn't good enough to go in the 1st round :rolleyes: , but if he did

Lebron
Shaq
Duncan
MJ

The draft lottery didn't happen until 1985 which is why that is the first year.

SLY WILLIAMS
12-04-2012, 05:43 PM
Shaq
Robinson
Duncan
Lebron
Ewing (Great day for me personally when we won that lottery)
Dwight
Yao
Webber
Rose
Iverson

Alayla
12-04-2012, 06:03 PM
How the F are some of you putting Rose over Iverson already? Seriously?

Iverson will forever be disrespected dude
People forget just how good Iverson was his frist 4 or 5 years in the nba
He was a better scorer than rose a better ball thief a comparable passer until he started playing the 2
And believe it or not was about the same as a rebounder

There isnt a single vaild argument a person can make too say Rose has had a better start to his career than Iverson did
But people will continue to pretend he was never anything special

pedrofan45
12-04-2012, 06:20 PM
Iverson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Drose

Faneik
12-04-2012, 06:22 PM
Shaq
Duncan
Lebron
Admiral
Ewing

pd1dish
12-04-2012, 06:39 PM
Treating this as "who would I draft if all these guys were in the same draft class"...

Off the top of the head, so don't be too mad!

1997: Tim Duncan
1992: Shaquille O'Neal
2003: LeBron James
1987: David Robinson
1985: Patrick Ewing
2004: Dwight Howard
1993: Chris Webber
2002: Yao Ming
2008: Derrick Rose
1996: Allen Iverson
2011: Kyrie Irving
2009: Blake Griffin
1994: Glenn Robinson
1999: Elton Brand
2005: Andrew Bogut
1991: Larry Johnson
2010: John Wall
2000: Kenyon Martin
1986: Brad Daugherty
1988: Danny Manning
1990: Derrick Coleman
2006: Andrea Bargnani
1995: Joe Smith
1989: Pervis Ellison
2001: Kwame Brown
1998: Michael Olowokandi
2007: Greg Oden

your list is pretty solid, however, i would move Chris Webber down a few spots and move Derrick Rose and Kyrie Irving ahead of him. here's how my top 10 would shape out:

1997: Tim Duncan
1992: Shaquille O'Neal
2003: LeBron James
1987: David Robinson
1985: Patrick Ewing
2004: Dwight Howard
2002: Yao Ming
2008: Derrick Rose
2011: Kyrie Irving
1993: Chris Webber

very similar but i jumbled around your 7-10 and moved AI to #11

stejay
12-04-2012, 07:00 PM
1. Duncan
2. Lebron
3. Shaq
4. Robinson
5. Iverson
6. Ewing
7. Howard
8. Rose
9. Ming
10.Irving

pedrofan45
12-04-2012, 07:06 PM
your list is pretty solid, however, i would move Chris Webber down a few spots and move Derrick Rose and Kyrie Irving ahead of him. here's how my top 10 would shape out:

1997: Tim Duncan
1992: Shaquille O'Neal
2003: LeBron James
1987: David Robinson
1985: Patrick Ewing
2004: Dwight Howard
2002: Yao Ming
2008: Derrick Rose
2011: Kyrie Irving
1993: Chris Webber

very similar but i jumbled around your 7-10 and moved AI to #11

Kyrie Irving over AI eh? pass the ganj bruh

Borough
12-04-2012, 07:25 PM
im too young for this...:sigh:

Stuckey#3
12-04-2012, 10:19 PM
How is everyone ranking Kyrie over Wall? I guess hype plays a factor.

Raps18-19 Champ
12-04-2012, 10:29 PM
How is everyone ranking Kyrie over Wall? I guess hype plays a factor.

Probably because he's outplayed him.

mrblisterdundee
12-04-2012, 10:49 PM
1987: David Robinson
2003: LeBron James
1997: Tim Duncan
1985: Patrick Ewing
1992: Shaquille O'Neal
1996: Allen Iverson
1993: Chris Webber
2008: Derrick Rose
2002: Yao Ming
2004: Dwight Howard
... Who cares, or who cares yet?

Hitman21
12-04-2012, 11:22 PM
How is everyone ranking Kyrie over Wall? I guess hype plays a factor.

to be honest bro...us wiz fans r pretty dissapointed in wall as of now. hes got no jumper, and hasnt developed. although he hasnt played this year, last year we saw no improvments. id personally trade wall for kyrie in a heart beat

Bruno
12-05-2012, 01:41 AM
1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. LBJ
4. Robinson
5. Howard
6. Rose
7. Ewing
8. Iverson
9. Webber
10. Griffin

Steelers23_06
12-05-2012, 02:05 AM
I feel shaq was the biggest can't miss star and most dominant player of all time and if I am a magical gm that gas the power to draft anyone to start a team around in the history of the nba in a draft I choose shaq. He wasn't the sloppy lazy player that he was toward the end he was swift and athletic and his post game as a rookie was second to none. And don't anyone say wilt because you never seen him play as a rookie.

WAYNEBO
12-05-2012, 07:27 PM
My list in order of significance:

01) Tim Duncan
02) Shaquille O'Neal
03) LeBron James
04) David Robinson
05) Allen Iverson
06) Patrick Ewing
07) Derrick Rose
08) Blake Griffin
09) Chris Webber
10) Yao Ming
11) Kenyon Martin
12) Larry Johnson
13) Elton Brand
14) Kyrie Irving
15) Andrew Bogut
16) John Wall
17) Glenn Robinson
18) Brad Daugherty
19) Derrick Coleman
20) Andrea Bargnani
21) Danny Manning
22) Pervis Ellison
23) Michael Olowokandi
24) Greg Oden
25) Joe Smith
26) Kwame Brown

RonE Coleman
12-05-2012, 07:29 PM
Duncan
Shaq
Lebron
Robinson
Ewing

the rest

PleaseBeNice
12-06-2012, 02:49 AM
shaq-1 lbj-2 duncan-3

pd1dish
12-06-2012, 03:15 AM
Kyrie Irving over AI eh? pass the ganj bruh

i would but its finals week so im not blazing this week. but yes, im basing my rankings off of what their potential is if they are a young player, so i put Irving ahead of Iverson.

also, like the another poster said, im basing it off of who i would pick if they were all in the same draft class. Iverson was a great player, but i think Irving is more of a team player (Iverson NEVER was), a better person off and on the court, and his potential is through the roof.

albertajaysfan
12-06-2012, 03:47 AM
You also can't put him ahead of better players because of that.

I would still draft him ahead of Kwame Brown and Michael Olowokandi

FOXHOUND
12-06-2012, 06:39 PM
1985: Patrick Ewing
1986: Brad Daugherty
1987: David Robinson
1988: Danny Manning
1989: Pervis Ellison
1990: Derrick Coleman
1991: Larry Johnson
1992: Shaquille O'Neal
1993: Chris Webber
1994: Glenn Robinson
1995: Joe Smith
1996: Allen Iverson
1997: Tim Duncan
1998: Michael Olowokandi
1999: Elton Brand
2000: Kenyon Martin
2001: Kwame Brown
2002: Yao Ming
2003: LeBron James
2004: Dwight Howard
2005: Andrew Bogut
2006: Andrea Bargnani
2007: Greg Oden
2008: Derrick Rose
2009: Blake Griffin
2010: John Wall
2011: Kyrie Irving

I'm going to look at this like what they did for their organization. Example, Shaq did good things for Orlando but left after just four years, and in FA so they had nothing else to show for it.

So with that I would say;

1- Tim Duncan

By far, really. Still there after 14 years, brought a franchise 4 rings it would have had no business winning otherwise. Enough said.

2- Patrick Ewing

He made the Knicks relevant again for the first time since the title years. Put in 15 excellent years there. Played the Jordan Bulls tougher than anyone at their apex. One game away from a Finals win despite minimal help, compared to other star players of the era.

3 - David Robinson

Similar to Ewing, only could not get the team over the hump until Tim Duncan came aboard. Played a big role in the first ring, played a nice role in the 2nd, but ultimately could never get it done before hand. Notorious for choking in many spots. Still, did many great things, and kept the Spurs franchise alive for many years. Odd thing is getting hurt in 96 was the best thing he ever did for the franchise, allowing for the twin tower duo of Duncan and Robinson to be born.

4 - Dwight Howard

A short, but sweet career in Orlando. Got them to their 2nd Finals in franchise history, and led them to their only Finals win in franchise history. Best run in franchise history, and he did it with very little help due to very poor GM work. Left via trade, at least leaving Orlando with some good players instead of nothing like LeBron and Shaq, respectively.

5 - LeBron James

Didn't spent nearly as much time in Cleveland as the top 3 for their respective teams, but still spearheaded the greatest run in that franchises history. Left in a heart breaking way, but I don't think anyone in Cleveland would rather not go through the success they did go through with LeBron despite the ending.

HM

Shaq - very few years, but led the franchise to its first Finals, even if they got swept.

Daugherty - Made Cleveland a playoff team for many years, into the 90's.

Webber - The draft day trade for Penny and 3 1sts ultimately helped Orlando reach the Finals, even if their #1 overall pick wasn't there for it.

Iverson - Was never a big fan, but he was instrumental in getting the 76ers back to the Finals.

2008-present draftees - Too soon.

Cracka2HI!
12-06-2012, 10:47 PM
If all these players came out the same year Greg Oden probably would have gone first. Either him or LeBron.

mike_noodles
12-06-2012, 11:12 PM
My list

1. Shaquille O'Neal
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. David Robinson
5. Patrick Ewing
6. Derrick Rose
7. Allen Iverson
8. Dwight Howard
9. Yao Ming
10. Chris Webber

SteveNash
12-06-2012, 11:29 PM
1. LeBron
2. Shaq
3. Duncan
4. Yao
5. David Robinson
6. Ewing
7. Webber
8. Griffin
9. Brand
10. Oden
11. Bogut
12. Wall
13. Daugherty
14. Larry Johnson
15. Irving
16. Glenn Robinson
17. Manning
18. Joe Smith
19. Ellison
20. Howard
21. Martin
22. Coleman
23. Olowokandi
24. Kwame
25. Rose
26. Bargnani
27. Iverson

JordansBulls
12-07-2012, 12:12 AM
1. LeBron
2. Shaq
3. Duncan
4. Yao
5. David Robinson
6. Ewing
7. Webber
8. Griffin
9. Brand
10. Oden
11. Bogut
12. Wall
13. Daugherty
14. Larry Johnson
15. Irving
16. Glenn Robinson
17. Manning
18. Joe Smith
19. Ellison
20. Howard
21. Martin
22. Coleman
23. Olowokandi
24. Kwame
25. Rose
26. Bargnani
27. Iverson
What the hell?