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mrblisterdundee
12-03-2012, 07:59 PM
I've made a statement before - and I'm guessing many others have - that no team coached by Mike D'Antoni will ever win a championship.
Do you think a D'Antoni-coached team will ever win a championship? If so, why? If not, do you think there's something he could slightly alter to make his system more successful, other than the obvious defensive improvements?
To win a championship using his system, a team would need such a perfect combination of speed, athleticism and talent that it just isn't plausible. The Suns came pretty close, but once again, they had all those qualities including a prime Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion.
At this point, it seems D'Antoni's system is the problem, not the teams trying to fit it. He might fit well at the University of Oregon, making the basketball team more like the football team - doing really well but eventually losing to a good defensive team.

LoveMeOrHateMe
12-03-2012, 08:02 PM
Yes this years lakers, times are rough right now but they'll get it together soon enough

Hawkeye15
12-03-2012, 08:03 PM
I will say a shaky "no".

Da Knicks
12-03-2012, 08:08 PM
I see the lakers in the chip game and losing it so i say no....

StarvingKnick22
12-03-2012, 08:13 PM
don't be ridiculous.

Bruno
12-03-2012, 08:13 PM
no.

SteBO
12-03-2012, 08:16 PM
He hasn't given me a reason to believe that he can....but we'll see.

mrblisterdundee
12-03-2012, 08:18 PM
Yes this years lakers, times are rough right now but they'll get it together soon enough

Did you not just see them get owned in the last six minutes against the Magic at the Staples Center last night? And don't tell me Steve Nash would have helped stop the Magic from scoring 31 points in six minutes.

Corey
12-03-2012, 08:27 PM
No reason to believe the answer to this question is yes.

PLAYERS FAN
12-03-2012, 08:33 PM
No.

HowFit
12-03-2012, 08:45 PM
Not with current team...

PC
12-03-2012, 08:56 PM
It's possible

You can argue that they could have won in '07 if not for the Amar'e/Diaw suspensions

KnickaBocka.44
12-03-2012, 09:04 PM
A definite no. I've been sayin this since his days with the Suns and knew he would never be the coach to bring the Knicks to the promised land. He is overly reliant on his system, doesn't preach defense AT ALL and on top of all that he is bad with his rotations, most often only using 8 players in total. His system is entertaining and puts points on the board but he simply isn't a very good coach.

Jesse2272
12-03-2012, 09:24 PM
It's possible

You can argue that they could have won in '07 if not for the Amar'e/Diaw suspensions

With a tailor made team and a great defensive assistant

still a big maybe

07 he did have a shot

Chill_Will_24
12-03-2012, 09:24 PM
Absolutely not. Bad move by the Lakers. What a waste of talent.

Spurred1
12-03-2012, 09:29 PM
Probably not. He knows how to entertain and rack up points but his style just doesn't win anything.
The Knicks are the best current example of this. They struggle like hell with him there, fire him, make Woodson the coach and focus more on defense. Chandler also brings a ton of defense to the team and spreads it around.
Do you think that would have happened with D'Antoni?

heyman321
12-03-2012, 09:31 PM
Yes 06-07 they should have won but as usual Cheap shot Rob/Bruce Bowen were dirty as hell, and David Stern didn't want Phoenix to win anything.

Heediot
12-03-2012, 09:45 PM
Quote me on this: I would still take the Lakers in a 7 game series over the Heat with or without Mike D.

Avenged
12-03-2012, 09:50 PM
Maybe. He's not great but he's not bad either. He did good things with Phoenix.

Until proven otherwise though, I will have to say no.

evadatam5150
12-03-2012, 09:59 PM
I've made a statement before - and I'm guessing many others have - that no team coached by Mike D'Antoni will ever win a championship.
Do you think a D'Antoni-coached team will ever win a championship? If so, why? If not, do you think there's something he could slightly alter to make his system more successful, other than the obvious defensive improvements?
To win a championship using his system, a team would need such a perfect combination of speed, athleticism and talent that it just isn't plausible. The Suns came pretty close, but once again, they had all those qualities including a prime Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion.
At this point, it seems D'Antoni's system is the problem, not the teams trying to fit it. He might fit well at the University of Oregon, making the basketball team more like the football team - doing really well but eventually losing to a good defensive team.

Unfortunately for the Lakers, Nope..

blastmasta26
12-04-2012, 02:11 AM
No. I never thought he was that bad of a coach, but I feel like this will be the best roster he ever gets and I don't see the Lakers winning the title with this squad.

TeamSeattle
12-04-2012, 02:15 AM
Fool's Gold. It'll never happen.

Iceman_9
12-04-2012, 02:36 AM
no.

LBJ6
12-04-2012, 02:59 AM
Have him coached the Heat, then yes.

sharqstealth
12-04-2012, 03:06 AM
Of all the teams he has coached, this Lakers team has the best shot of proving critics wrong, but I'm still convinced that it is a "no".

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-04-2012, 03:51 AM
Quote me on this: I would still take the Lakers in a 7 game series over the Heat with or without Mike D.

Are you saying this because of their advantage of having 2 skilled big men?

If the Lakers decide to trade Pau, would your statement still hold?

Just curious.

LegendX
12-04-2012, 05:52 AM
Not even a big NBA fan and I feel confident in saying no.

amos1er
12-04-2012, 05:57 AM
Lets hope so, though I still pray every night that Phil will return soon.

TopsyTurvy
12-04-2012, 09:25 AM
If Spoelstra can guide a team to a title, anything is possible.

SteBO
12-04-2012, 09:41 AM
If Spoelstra can guide a team to a title, anything is possible.
Yeah I know it's cool to downplay Spo and all because of the players he has, but at least his stubbornness doesn't cloud him to the point where when we need a change, he'll still have his heels dug in. Can't say the same about D'Antoni......

DumDum
12-04-2012, 09:45 AM
He already had his best chance with his 5 seconds or less climax offense

Heediot
12-04-2012, 09:49 AM
Are you saying this because of their advantage of having 2 skilled big men?

If the Lakers decide to trade Pau, would your statement still hold?

Just curious.


Miami has always had trouble with Howard.

It depends who they trade Pau for. We'll see what happens here so I cannot comment. But you are right in why I think LA wins, Miami's weakness is a lack of strength, shot blocking and rebounding down low.

I think Miami beats OKC again. The Clippers are a mystery, they always give Miami fits and match well, how that adds up in a 7 game series I have no clue. Spurs are too old, they are always a top regular season but I think they maxed out with the current Squad as far as they could last year.

DumDum
12-04-2012, 09:55 AM
Miami has always had trouble with Howard.

It depends who they trade Pau for. We'll see what happens here so I cannot comment. But you are right in why I think LA wins, Miami's weakness is a lack of strength, shot blocking and rebounding down low.

I think Miami beats OKC again. The Clippers are a mystery, they always give Miami fits and match well, how that adds up in a 7 game series I have no clue. Spurs are too old, they are always a top regular season but I think they maxed out with the current Squad as far as they could last year.

I maybe wrong here but hasn't Miami blown out a magic team with howard two or more times since lebron and bosh have been in miami.

nickdymez
12-04-2012, 11:20 AM
no

Heediot
12-04-2012, 11:39 AM
I maybe wrong here but hasn't Miami blown out a magic team with howard two or more times since lebron and bosh have been in miami.

They were 500 against Orlando the past 2 seasons against Dwight.

Orlando didn't have much else besides Ryan Anderson last year. With the Lakers they'll have to focus on other guys aside from Dwight and Anderson.

8kobe24
12-04-2012, 12:28 PM
I'd say yes, if he had the right players.

blahblahyoutoo
12-04-2012, 02:27 PM
is this an attempt to slight dantoni?

JasonJohnHorn
12-04-2012, 05:42 PM
My answer is no, because I believe that even if LAL wins it this year, it will be because Nash takes over as coach while 'Antoni serves as a cheer leader on the sidelines and gets credit for Nash's coaching.

mrblisterdundee
12-05-2012, 01:32 AM
If Spoelstra can guide a team to a title, anything is possible.

Spoelstra had a much more athletic, cohesive team than the Lakers. And besides, Pat was telling him what to do the whole time.

John Walls Era
12-05-2012, 01:35 AM
If Spoelstra can guide a team to a title, anything is possible.

Spoelstra at least makes adjustments. Senile Dantoni only wants to play 1 way.

THE MTL
12-05-2012, 01:36 AM
His best case was in Phoenix and had they kept that team together, I think they would have eventually won it all.

Look at the Mavs, they been a 50-win team for the entire decade of 00s and lost in the Finals in 06. They didnt panic, kept the core together, and won a championship 6 years later. I think Phoenix would have had a similar story

Jarvo
12-05-2012, 03:19 AM
Nope.

RonE Coleman
12-05-2012, 03:21 AM
His best case was in Phoenix and had they kept that team together, I think they would have eventually won it all.

Look at the Mavs, they been a 50-win team for the entire decade of 00s and lost in the Finals in 06. They didnt panic, kept the core together, and won a championship 6 years later. I think Phoenix would have had a similar story

TBH, Phoenix would have won in 05 I believe it was when Amare was undeservedly suspended for Robert Horry throwing Nash into the announcers table.

Bowman53
12-05-2012, 04:23 AM
Never will happen.

That was a such a dumb hire by the Lakers.