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giants9689
11-27-2012, 04:12 PM
Makes some sense considering Dantoni and nash are in LA now.

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-news-and-rumors/articles/170229-rumor-alert-lakers-and-knicks-working-on-a-pau-gasol-for-amare-stoudemire-trade

giants9689
11-27-2012, 04:12 PM
i think at this point gasol would be a much better fit for the knicks

LAKERMANIA
11-27-2012, 04:14 PM
No!!!!!!

xxplayerxx23
11-27-2012, 04:14 PM
:drool:

Dade County
11-27-2012, 04:15 PM
Lol
No Way

Pluvious
11-27-2012, 04:15 PM
Not a real rumor. Close Thread.

JordansBulls
11-27-2012, 04:15 PM
Can you post part of the article? When I click on it my company labels it as a malicious site.

FOBolous
11-27-2012, 04:16 PM
why would anyone wants amare?

giants9689
11-27-2012, 04:16 PM
"The rumor around town is that the Lakers are actively looking to trade Pau Gasol to the Knicks for Amare Stoudemire

HoopsVibe's Very Quick Call: This isn't much of a win for either team, but edge goes to Knicks.

This isn't the first time Pau Gasol has been at the center of trade rumors in Los Angeles. The Big Llama has known his time in LA is questionable at best for over a year now. First, it was Gasol leaving LA as part of the trade that was going to bring Chris Paul to the Lakers, but that got vetoed by David Stern. Next, it was the non-stop trade rumors throughout the off-season reportedly due to his soft play in the playoffs last season. This time it is a trade between the Laker big man and the New York Knicks' power forward Amare Stoudemire."

xxplayerxx23
11-27-2012, 04:17 PM
:drool: I like the word Actively in this :drool:

strahan92osi72
11-27-2012, 04:18 PM
why would anyone wants amare?

Because he fits D'Antoni and Nash to a tee, plus the good chance Howard bolts and heads to Dallas next year.

strahan92osi72
11-27-2012, 04:20 PM
Wasn't Gasol almost traded for Boozer at some point last year. If the Lakers would ever consider that, they would definitely consider Pau for Amare being Amare>>>Boozer.

JordansBulls
11-27-2012, 04:20 PM
This would really make the Knicks legit contenders.

blahblahyoutoo
11-27-2012, 04:20 PM
why would anyone wants amare?

LA feels guilty about getting Pau for nothing so they are doing the right thing by sending him off for a horrible contract in amare.

giants9689
11-27-2012, 04:22 PM
LA feels guilty about getting Pau for nothing so they are doing the right thing by sending him off for a horrible contract in amare.


didnt they give up marc gasol in that trade? Who looks to be the better player right now

strahan92osi72
11-27-2012, 04:22 PM
This would really make the Knicks legit contenders.

I'm not as sold on Gasol as many other Knick fans. I mean if we're talking about the 2009 Gasol, this trade would definitely make the Knicks serious title conteners. However, I'm not 100% sold on the idea that he's the same Gasol anymore.

Baller1
11-27-2012, 04:32 PM
This would be so nice for NY. Pau and Tyson is a nice set of bigs, with Sheed coming in as the bench big.

This has potential to be a really solid move for LA considering we saw what Nash, Amare, and D'Antoni could do together... But I'm leaning toward this being a regretful move for LA if it happens.

Gram
11-27-2012, 04:35 PM
Good for the Knicks if this is true.

Tysons_Beard
11-27-2012, 04:37 PM
not happening

JordansBulls
11-27-2012, 04:37 PM
I'm not as sold on Gasol as many other Knick fans. I mean if we're talking about the 2009 Gasol, this trade would definitely make the Knicks serious title conteners. However, I'm not 100% sold on the idea that he's the same Gasol anymore.

It's sold because of there frontcourt which is what gives Miami problems. Having a frontcourt of Gasol and Chandler would be too much for Miami to overcome. Because in a series like that now you have to decide if you want Lebron to defend Melo or Gasol?

mamba24
11-27-2012, 04:42 PM
Good for the Knicks if this is true.

Its not true fortunately for us Lakers fans... LA Times reported today that Pau isnt being shopped at the moment... BUT when Nash gets back, if Pau doesnt mesh almost immediately I do see him being put on the block. I dont think he will be traded tho.

If this trade happened in 2009 it would be an awesome deal. I don't see Amare as being worth his huge contract. Next season Pau is expiring. His contract will be extremely valuable to any team looking to rebuild. If anything I see Pau being traded next year.

JiffyMix88
11-27-2012, 04:43 PM
didnt they give up marc gasol in that trade? Who looks to be the better player right now

Marc looks better now buuuuuuuut Pau did lead the Lakers to 3 Finals apperances and 2 Championships.

Becks2307
11-27-2012, 04:45 PM
If Amare reverts back to his old self holy ****

Dwight
Amare
Kobe
Nash

4 MVP candidates from 2010 lol

NYKnickFanatic
11-27-2012, 04:48 PM
Can you post part of the article? When I click on it my company labels it as a malicious site.


This isn't the first time Pau Gasol has been at the center of trade rumors in Los Angeles. The Big Llama has known his time in LA is questionable at best for over a year now. First, it was Gasol leaving LA as part of the trade that was going to bring Chris Paul to the Lakers, but that got vetoed by David Stern. Next, it was the non-stop trade rumors throughout the off-season reportedly due to his soft play in the playoffs last season. This time it is a trade between the Laker big man and the New York Knicks' power forward Amare Stoudemire.

Gasol is set to earn $38.3 million over the next 2 seasons, an amount far ahead of his current production. Yet, Stoudemire will be earning $60 million over the next 3 years which is also far ahead of his current ability to produce on the court. Whoever ends up with Stoudemire would have more money on the table, but both teams would be only debatably improved. The question is which aging big man is worth it. Both are having significant injury issues this season and having trouble fitting in with their respected offenses.

The Knicks are statistically better when Stoudemire is out of the game. New York has a record of 23-9 when Stoudemire doesn't play and a record of 23-29 when he is in the game. It is easy to see how New York would be motivated to find a player that fits with Carmelo Anthony better than Stoudemire. No matter what you think of Carmelo Anthony, the Knicks win more games when the offense flows through him.

It would appear this trade would benefit the Knicks more than the Lakers, but LA may be desperate enough to throw more money at a season going down the drain. Unfortunately, acquiring Stoudemire will do little to help the Lakers win and simply add another big name and up-tempo style player not built to how Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant play ball.

Haaank.

Knicks21
11-27-2012, 04:50 PM
As evident by the return I like this, but I doubt LA does unless there is more ie Shumpert and/or others.

JordansBulls
11-27-2012, 04:51 PM
If Amare reverts back to his old self holy ****

Dwight
Amare
Kobe
Nash

4 MVP candidates from 2010 lol

Was Nash a MVP candidate in 2010?

RonE Coleman
11-27-2012, 04:52 PM
LA feels guilty about getting Pau for nothing so they are doing the right thing by sending him off for a horrible contract in amare.

Marc Gasol >>> Pau Gasol

Byronicle
11-27-2012, 04:52 PM
i think this is a trade that would benefit both teams

LoveMeOrHateMe
11-27-2012, 04:53 PM
Marc looks better now buuuuuuuut Pau did lead the Lakers to 3 Finals apperances and 2 Championships.

Correction Kobe did but pau was a big reason the 2nd biggest reason to be exact why they made it that far

He115ing
11-27-2012, 04:55 PM
Knicks would soo win with this!

shep33
11-27-2012, 04:57 PM
Not happening LA Times shot this rumor down

mjm07
11-27-2012, 04:57 PM
^^^ Affirmative.

"The Lakers are not attempting to trade Pau Gasol, according to the Los Angeles Times."

knicks=love
11-27-2012, 04:59 PM
not happening. LA would most definitely want shumpert apart of this deal IMO and i don't think the knicks are exactly ready to give up their one future piece for pau gasol.

nystandup
11-27-2012, 05:00 PM
^^^ Affirmative.

"The Lakers are not attempting to trade Pau Gasol, according to the Los Angeles Times."

I mean that could be true but just because the Times said so doesn't mean it hasn't been discussed.

Max.This
11-27-2012, 05:02 PM
The trade deadline is far away. It couldve been as simple as a phone call saying hey! how about this guy for this guy and a simple answer.

nickdymez
11-27-2012, 05:03 PM
Because he fits D'Antoni and Nash to a tee, plus the good chance Howard bolts and heads to Dallas next year.

Link?

Avenged
11-27-2012, 05:05 PM
No they are not.

ThunderousDemon
11-27-2012, 05:07 PM
Link?

Don't count on it, it's probably so far up his *** he can't reach it.

shep33
11-27-2012, 05:11 PM
So an already undermanned Lakers team is going to trade a healthy player for an injured one?

topdog
11-27-2012, 05:13 PM
Honestly, after choosing D'Antoni for head coach and his insistance on run 'n' gun, this makes a lot of sense. You are committed to Amare for an extra year; but, knowing the Lakers, they probably could turn that extra year into some huge expiring contract trade.

The alternative would probably be a deal like Tyrus Thomas and Ben Gordon for Gasol. I just don't see much of anywhere for the Lakers to go now that they're painted into a corner.

RonE Coleman
11-27-2012, 05:14 PM
So an already undermanned Lakers team is going to trade a healthy player for an injured one?

While I don't think this is going to happen its seems high risk but high reward if it works.

Amare and Nash played great together under D'Antoni.

Hellcrooner
11-27-2012, 05:16 PM
While I don't think this is going to happen its seems high risk but high reward if it works.

Amare and Nash played great together under D'Antoni.

its hard risk high reward for both.

But riskier for lakers, thos knees......:rolleyes:

Bruno
11-27-2012, 05:24 PM
i can't get behind this. amare is made of glass and is literally on his last legs. if you're gona move Pau, there's gotta be a better option.

Gritz
11-27-2012, 05:25 PM
Anybody that believes this is ********, then again, I wouldn't be surprised

StarvingKnick22
11-27-2012, 05:25 PM
Well, thank you.....

bholly
11-27-2012, 05:27 PM
This is maybe the least legit source I've seen since that guy in Orlando who comes up with pro-Orlando trades for ******.

It might be even worse than that. It doesn't even pretend to have sources, it just says 'rumor about town'. It's probably just based on the idle speculation of fans, like on here.

Not a real source.

NYYCowboys
11-27-2012, 05:31 PM
Very misleading title. The source is about as reliable as bklynknicks analysis of Carmelo Anthony.

colinskik
11-27-2012, 05:32 PM
So an already undermanned Lakers team is going to trade a healthy player for an injured one?
By "healthy player" you mean the giant with two tendonitis ridden knees?

Ill21
11-27-2012, 05:34 PM
Very misleading title. The source is about as reliable as bklynknicks analysis of Carmelo Anthony.

Lol

Cano-Montero...
11-27-2012, 05:35 PM
hahahaha...no way kupcake do this...

Zefflin
11-27-2012, 05:37 PM
I'm not as sold on Gasol as many other Knick fans. I mean if we're talking about the 2009 Gasol, this trade would definitely make the Knicks serious title conteners. However, I'm not 100% sold on the idea that he's the same Gasol anymore.

Haha you're right about your hunch about Gasol not being the same anymore because he's not. I would gladly take Amare for Gasol...plus fillers on both sides...

mamba24
11-27-2012, 05:41 PM
Haha you're right about your hunch about Gasol not being the same anymore because he's not. I would gladly take Amare for Gasol...plus fillers on both sides...

This is why you would never be a GM...

Zefflin
11-27-2012, 05:43 PM
This is why you would never be a GM...

I'll quote you on that. I'm gonna pull a Jay Z on your *** and buy psd.

mamba24
11-27-2012, 05:49 PM
I'll quote you on that. I'm gonna pull a Jay Z on your *** and buy psd.

haha im just trying to give you the motivation to actually become a gm

Zefflin
11-27-2012, 05:49 PM
it's working...hahah

Chronz
11-27-2012, 05:55 PM
why would anyone wants amare?

DAntoni

Chronz
11-27-2012, 05:57 PM
It's sold because of there frontcourt which is what gives Miami problems. Having a frontcourt of Gasol and Chandler would be too much for Miami to overcome. Because in a series like that now you have to decide if you want Lebron to defend Melo or Gasol?

Neither, he would defend Chandler like he did Camby

shep33
11-27-2012, 05:57 PM
By "healthy player" you mean the giant with two tendonitis ridden knees?

Amare has just about missed more games this season than Pau has in his entire Laker career.

Out of the 4 years Pau has been here, in 3 of them he's either played every game, or missed 1 the entire season.

WickedBadMan
11-27-2012, 06:00 PM
Wouldn't this turn LA into the old Phoenix team that couldn't win a title plus 8 years of age and diminishing skill?

Jroz
11-27-2012, 06:03 PM
Wouldn't this turn LA into the old Phoenix team that couldn't win a title plus 8 years of age and diminishing skill?

yes, except you'd have Kobe Bryant instead of Joe Johnson and Dwight Howard instead of Boris Diaw

LoveMeOrHateMe
11-27-2012, 06:04 PM
Wouldn't this turn LA into the old Phoenix team that couldn't win a title plus 8 years of age and diminishing skill?

Nope because Kobe and Dwight = way better players then Nash had in Phoenix

shep33
11-27-2012, 06:05 PM
You know what's crazy? Even with Pau struggling and playing out of position, an 80% Dwight Howard, a 34 year old Kobe Bryant, and no Steve Nash or Steve Blake, the Lakers have the 4th most efficient offense in the NBA.

Point is, no need to trade Pau until we see what he can do with Steve Nash.

Testaverde16
11-27-2012, 06:21 PM
do people call pau the big llama? that might be the best thing ive ever seen

GiantsSwaGG
11-27-2012, 06:22 PM
I would sell my house if this is true. But most likely it's not, so I'll put my paperwork away!

Zefflin
11-27-2012, 06:51 PM
You know what's crazy? Even with Pau struggling and playing out of position, an 80% Dwight Howard, a 34 year old Kobe Bryant, and no Steve Nash or Steve Blake, the Lakers have the 4th most efficient offense in the NBA.

Point is, no need to trade Pau until we see what he can do with Steve Nash.

exactly

AsfanSince99
11-27-2012, 06:59 PM
The salaries match.

But I wouldn't do this trade simply because I want to first see Pau play with a healthy Nash before I make any trades.

TmacBryant
11-27-2012, 07:18 PM
The salaries match.

But I wouldn't do this trade simply because I want to first see Pau play with a healthy Nash before I make any trades.

as a laker fan hell no.

Why trade for someone who is injury prone and plays just as bad defense if not worse than Gasol.

Little known fact, gasol has had tendonitis since preseason in both his knees, he will run better and shoot better as the season unfolds itself. If he can knock down that mid range jump shot when Nash comes back, the Lakers will be unstoppable.

THE MTL
11-27-2012, 07:20 PM
Why are ppl overrating Gasol? Do u see how awful he's been recently. His trade value is dropping almost every game. Shooting 43% for a big?? Averaging 13ppg 9rpg? Even last year in the playoffs, he basically quit on his team. Ppl are thinking this is the Gasol from 2011 and under.

The trade is more fair than you think.

I'll admit and give my team the slight edge in this trade, but its NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM a rape when it comes to trades.

king4day
11-27-2012, 07:22 PM
I hope something like this happens. It'd be interesting to see a blockbuster midseason. Problem is, Amar'e needs to be the first option on offense. He'd be the 3rd in LA. In NY he has a shot to be the 2nd option if he starts and 1st off the bench.

Hawkeye15
11-27-2012, 07:40 PM
as a Laker hater, I would love this trade. That being said, the boards are already flooded with Knicks fans already designing their championship t-shirts, so that part would suck.

Hawkeye15
11-27-2012, 07:41 PM
Why are ppl overrating Gasol? Do u see how awful he's been recently. His trade value is dropping almost every game. Shooting 43% for a big?? Averaging 13ppg 9rpg? Even last year in the playoffs, he basically quit on his team. Ppl are thinking this is the Gasol from 2011 and under.

The trade is more fair than you think.

I'll admit and give my team the slight edge in this trade, but its NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM a rape when it comes to trades.

Gasol is better than Amare, period. He wasn't used right last year, and hasn't been used right this year.

knicks=love
11-27-2012, 07:43 PM
as a Laker hater, I would love this trade. That being said, the boards are already flooded with Knicks fans already designing their championship t-shirts, so that part would suck.

they're designing those already? where can i get one? :cool:

Hawkeye15
11-27-2012, 07:50 PM
they're designing those already? where can i get one? :cool:

haha, says one of the rational fans...

But yeah, its already been tough, with the strong start and small sample size. Gasol would make them better, for sure.

$GangGr33n$
11-27-2012, 07:50 PM
in a minute!

GiantsSwaGG
11-27-2012, 07:52 PM
I would trade Amare for Eddy Curry's fat

D-Leethal
11-27-2012, 07:55 PM
Gasol is better than Amare, period. He wasn't used right last year, and hasn't been used right this year.

Amare wasn't being used right either. He had Toney Douglas, Baron Davis' corpse and Mike Bibby as his PG for almost the whole season. We ran a **** ton of iso's and never ran pick and rolls with him (Tyson was the featured screener/roller). We basically forced Amare to be a spot shooter and iso guy, and gave a guy who is very reliant on his PG no PG's to work with. He played with Lin for about a week. He still put up 18-8. Amare is not as done as people think just like I don't think Pau is. Both are being used wrong. Lakers want to run a system Amare is built for and Knicks run a half court system Pau is built for. Win win in my book.

KnickaBocka.44
11-27-2012, 07:56 PM
I would trade Amare for Eddy Curry's fat

Blasphemy!

yankeesown69
11-27-2012, 07:58 PM
I just don't see this happening at all and I would only do it if it was straight up. I would definitely not do it if the Lakers ask for shumpert as well

LakersA's49ers
11-27-2012, 07:59 PM
Oh jesus. Lakers may as well get Diaw, Bell and Tim Thomas while theyre at it. There's a reason that team never won it all

championships
11-27-2012, 08:01 PM
You guys forget how bad Amares knees are. This is not the Amare of Phoenix.

Awful contract ,bad knees that will not allow him to run and gun. This is just a media driven story fueled only by the fact D'Antoni is the coach.

Not going to happen

Evolution23
11-27-2012, 08:01 PM
Not happening. More ESPN ******** rumors

Avenged
11-27-2012, 08:06 PM
Not happening. More ESPN ******** rumors

Yep. They want this to happen so bad. Pau getting kicked out of town. Amare reuniting with his former coach and Nash.

Maybe if the media keeps bringing it up they think it'll happen. :shrug:

Jetsguy
11-27-2012, 08:10 PM
You guys forget how bad Amares knees are. This is not the Amare of Phoenix.

Awful contract ,bad knees that will not allow him to run and gun. This is just a media driven story fueled only by the fact D'Antoni is the coach.

Not going to happen

Have to agree, I mean Pau is not what he once was either but Amare with the knees/contract is a tough sell and the Lakers never lose a deal. It would most certainly include Shumpert and picks but still not happening.

It is just to easy of a story and makes to much sense for the media not to run with it.

KnickaBocka.44
11-27-2012, 08:12 PM
Amare had his worst season of his career last year. So far this year Pau makes that season look MVP worthy

AI
11-27-2012, 08:21 PM
Yep. They want this to happen so bad. Pau getting kicked out of town. Amare reuniting with his former coach and Nash.

Maybe if the media keeps bringing it up they think it'll happen. :shrug:

I want Ariana under my tree for Christmas.

Raps08-09 Champ
11-27-2012, 08:26 PM
Knicks would be so awesome.

D-Leethal
11-27-2012, 08:27 PM
Oh jesus. Lakers may as well get Diaw, Bell and Tim Thomas while theyre at it. There's a reason that team never won it all

Ya, because they had about 4 years healthy to do it, traded away picks and great young players year after year to save money, and ran into an all time great dynasty.

How many teams win with a 4 year window? You guys were all fawning over Jerry Sloan who couldn't win a chip in like 40 years as HC.

richiesaurus310
11-27-2012, 08:32 PM
If the lakers still have their amnesty clause, which I believe they do this makes sense. Theyll just use it on amare when kobe retires and theyll instanly have a ridiculous amount of cap. And if dwight leaves theyll have even more cap room.

More-Than-Most
11-27-2012, 08:34 PM
I am not reading the rumors or the thread...If the Lakers do this that would be so much fail... I would not trade Gas for Amare if they were eating some of his contract and throwing in draft picks...Sorry he plays 0 defense and those knees

ACanadian
11-27-2012, 08:37 PM
If the Laker's get Amare they better reinforce those LA fire hydrants on the arena.

D-Leethal
11-27-2012, 08:37 PM
If the lakers still have their amnesty clause, which I believe they do this makes sense. Theyll just use it on amare when kobe retires and theyll instanly have a ridiculous amount of cap. And if dwight leaves theyll have even more cap room.

Almost positive you can only amnesty guys who were on your books the time the rule went into place. You can't trade for a guy than amnesty him.

ACanadian
11-27-2012, 08:38 PM
If the Laker's get Amare they better reinforce those LA fire hydrants in the arena.

GiantsSwaGG
11-27-2012, 08:41 PM
I am not reading the rumors or the thread...If the Lakers do this that would be so much fail... I would not trade Gas for Amare if they were eating some of his contract and throwing in draft picks...Sorry he plays 0 defense and those knees

Dantoni preaches 0 defense so it's a perfect fit

More-Than-Most
11-27-2012, 08:45 PM
Dantoni preaches 0 defense so it's a perfect fit

I know and if your a knick fan you Jerk off to this rumor every night because I would if he was on my team with that contract. That being said its just dumb to do this when there are other options out there who someone like Nash will make look great and has less the risk and less the cost.

GiantsSwaGG
11-27-2012, 08:51 PM
I know and if your a knick fan you Jerk off to this rumor every night because I would if he was on my team with that contract. That being said its just dumb to do this when there are other options out there who someone like Nash will make look great and has less the risk and less the cost.

Dude I'm jerking off right just because it was mention from a legit source. I know it will likely not happen but this might be the closes we trade Amare.

Ps I can see Dantoni pursuing this trade, he actually stupid enough to do it.

GiantsSwaGG
11-27-2012, 08:53 PM
Plus Nash made Amare an MVP canidate

richiesaurus310
11-27-2012, 08:54 PM
Almost positive you can only amnesty guys who were on your books the time the rule went into place. You can't trade for a guy than amnesty him.

Can anyone confirm this? Im a clipper fan so I dgaf, but im assuming thats what the lakers are thinking.

JOhnnyTHaJet
11-27-2012, 08:58 PM
Makes zero sense for the Lakers. Pau is a much better player than Amare, system or not.

GiantsSwaGG
11-27-2012, 09:03 PM
Makes zero sense for the Lakers. Pau is a much better player than Amare, system or not.

He doesn't fit the system. That's the point. Amare does, he's a spread/pick and roll 4. Gasol isn't. It doesn't make sense cause of the contract, but the Lakers are one of the richest franchises in sports. They can pay that man

More-Than-Most
11-27-2012, 09:08 PM
Dude I'm jerking off right just because it was mention from a legit source. I know it will likely not happen but this might be the closes we trade Amare.

Ps I can see Dantoni pursuing this trade, he actually stupid enough to do it.

100 percent agreed and it will be hilarious and will suck as a sixer fan but be hilarious all at the same time. I think it is dumb but because he is there I think its going to happen which is :facepalm:

SACNYY
11-27-2012, 09:09 PM
The Lakers have said they have no interest in this trade. Close this

Jenceman
11-27-2012, 09:11 PM
God no, please never let this happen.

**** amare, and that contract. Even if the Knicks threw in Shumpert and a couple firsts, and took back Blake, I'd still say hell no.

xxplayerxx23
11-27-2012, 09:11 PM
I know and if your a knick fan you Jerk off to this rumor every night because I would if he was on my team with that contract. That being said its just dumb to do this when there are other options out there who someone like Nash will make look great and has less the risk and less the cost.

:drool:

xxplayerxx23
11-27-2012, 09:12 PM
God no, please never let this happen.

**** amare, and that contract. Even if the Knicks threw in Shumpert and a couple firsts, and took back Blake, I'd still say hell no.

Well u are a fool. Shump+amare would be a good haul

meloman1592
11-27-2012, 09:13 PM
gasol is better than amare but he's a punk ***** that fades away in the playoffs and looks scared on the court sometimes...no thanks

GiantsSwaGG
11-27-2012, 09:14 PM
God no, please never let this happen.

**** amare, and that contract. Even if the Knicks threw in Shumpert and a couple firsts, and took back Blake, I'd still say hell no.

Now I see why they denied your application for the Laker's GM position :facepalm:

knicks=love
11-27-2012, 10:49 PM
haha, says one of the rational fans...

But yeah, its already been tough, with the strong start and small sample size. Gasol would make them better, for sure.

psh, i joke :shrug: Y U NO LIKE MY JOKE?!

knicks=love
11-27-2012, 10:50 PM
gasol is better than amare but he's a punk ***** that fades away in the playoffs and looks scared on the court sometimes...no thanks

i'd rather have that then the idiotic moron who punches fire extinguishers after one loss and can't even stay healthy during the playoffs.

Hawkeye15
11-27-2012, 10:55 PM
psh, i joke :shrug: Y U NO LIKE MY JOKE?!

I do...

Wait, its Amare/Shump for Gasol?

That sounds enticing as a Laker fan.

C-Style
11-27-2012, 11:00 PM
Dafuq would the Lakers want that trash with a horrible contract?????

xxplayerxx23
11-27-2012, 11:01 PM
I do...

Wait, its Amare/Shump for Gasol?

That sounds enticing as a Laker fan.

It better not be.! I didn' want to trade Shump for Nash, I sure as hell dont want shump in a deal for gasol. As far as this "Rumor" its Amare for Pau Base.

envymamba24
11-27-2012, 11:11 PM
id love for shumpert to be included, but i dont want amare lol

RipCity32
11-27-2012, 11:13 PM
I would go for it if I were the Lakers

thekmp211
11-27-2012, 11:13 PM
what exactly would amare stoudemire bring to the table that would help LA besides not being gasol?

Lakers4life08
11-27-2012, 11:15 PM
Stoudamire is garbage,no one wants this dude,his defense is joke,has zero post up moves,has lost all athleticism..he is total trash...

RipCity32
11-27-2012, 11:22 PM
I know Im joking that would be completley stupid for the Lakers to do this

Alayla
11-27-2012, 11:31 PM
This makes alot more sense for the lakers than people think it does.
But at the same time they shouldnt be trading Gasol at all

RealLiveBear
11-27-2012, 11:35 PM
Win for the knicks

Trueblue2
11-28-2012, 12:34 AM
I do...

Wait, its Amare/Shump for Gasol?

That sounds enticing as a Laker fan.

Not really to be honest...

DreamShaker
11-28-2012, 03:00 AM
The Knicks would LOVE that.

John Walls Era
11-28-2012, 03:05 AM
Dantoni doesn't give up.

STL Don
11-28-2012, 03:14 AM
I would never just make a trade for someone who's coming off an injury that caused him to miss an extended period of time, for an allstar like player in Pau. That's crazy. Ama're is pretty similar to Gasol's in the way they play the game and it's not like he would be filling a void outside of the perimeter or shoring up the defense. This would be absurd.

SportsFanatic10
11-28-2012, 03:48 AM
it would be great for the knicks. as is i don't think they can take down the heat in a best of 7 but with gasol instead of amare they'd definitely improve there chances imo. gasol/chandler would be a tough front court matchup vs miami.

JayW_1023
11-28-2012, 06:21 AM
Yeah, it WOULD be nice to see LAL on the wrong end of a lopsided trade FOR ONCE.

PHX2daDEATH
11-28-2012, 06:50 AM
This is logical for both only Stoudemire's injury is too big of a question..he goes to the lakers gets hurt again...lakers dont make the playoffs. Lakers need another scorer from the perimeter..they need to squeeze Gasol for 2/3 and a 4.

thenaj17
11-28-2012, 07:56 AM
Marc looks better now buuuuuuuut Pau did lead the Lakers to 3 Finals apperances and 2 Championships.

I must have missed the part where Kobe didn't play those 3 years...

Andrew32
11-28-2012, 08:00 AM
I must have missed the part where Kobe didn't play those 3 years...
Pau was arguably better then Kobe in 2010.

Outplayed him in the OKC and Boston series and was at worst co-mvp of the Utah series.

He was a #2 only in 2008 and 2009.

Knicks21
11-28-2012, 08:03 AM
Just pray to god Pau keeps playing like ****.

YashBoone
11-28-2012, 08:18 AM
I've been an avid supporter of amare, and I hate entertaining trade rumors, but gasol is a way better fit for us at this point.
He gives us everything we lack when amare comes back
A post up big
Rebounds
Defense

Amare, when healthy is athletically gifted, but what good is that when you only play on one side of the court, and actually has lost some his ability at that one end.
And, he doesn't even play completely at that one end..... I honestly think Amare is the worst rebounding big I've ever seen in Ny.
There is no one who can deny that amare has to take alot of blame when the Knicks in the past few seasons lose close games to scrub teams because their no name power forward dominated amare all night long on the boards and effort.

WAYNEBO
11-28-2012, 07:51 PM
LA feels guilty about getting Pau for nothing so they are doing the right thing by sending him off for a horrible contract in amare.

Hahaha... I was thinking the same thing. Pay it forward Lakers!!!

WAYNEBO
11-28-2012, 07:59 PM
I certainly wouldn't want Shumpert included in the deal, but unfortunately he is the cog that would make this trade happen. Having Brewer, Kidd and Felton as perimeter defenders makes this more palatable. Knicks are built to win NOW, not 2 years from now when Shump is 110% and has developed a consistent jumper.

xxplayerxx23
11-28-2012, 08:05 PM
No way, If we give Shump up for an old Gasol (who is still good) Id be pissed. Gasol is a better fit but not a perfect one, Still would leave Melo not that much space on the floor.

WAYNEBO
11-28-2012, 08:14 PM
Stoudamire is garbage,no one wants this dude,his defense is joke,has zero post up moves,has lost all athleticism..he is total trash...

You're a homer and garbage fan of the NBA ---

He is in decline no doubt and plays NO defense, but to call a stretch PF/C who can PnR and elbow J for 18ppg / 7bpg in his worst year as garbage, then your comments show your ignorance.

WAYNEBO
11-28-2012, 08:17 PM
No way, If we give Shump up for an old Gasol (who is still good) Id be pissed. Gasol is a better fit but not a perfect one, Still would leave Melo not that much space on the floor.

Agreed, but Gasol gives us a post player NOW, versus what STAT keeps saying he's developed. A 2yr contract still producing versus a 3yr with no production (to date) and proven to be a wrong fit -- Easy to make the judgement, and I'm a big STAT supporter.

xxplayerxx23
11-28-2012, 09:14 PM
Agreed, but Gasol gives us a post player NOW, versus what STAT keeps saying he's developed. A 2yr contract still producing versus a 3yr with no production (to date) and proven to be a wrong fit -- Easy to make the judgement, and I'm a big STAT supporter.

Well Amare was great his first year here. I agree Gasol is a better fit and player at this point but not worth Shump IMO

JasonJohnHorn
11-28-2012, 10:21 PM
Amare>>>Boozer.

I'm not sure I would agree with that. I like Boozer better... he's a better rebounder. Amare has a better offensive game though, but Boozer's is solid and his rebound gives him the edge in my book.

WAYNEBO
11-29-2012, 01:38 AM
Really? Look at STAT's rebounding lines... not much worse than Boozer's last 3 years.

PurpleJesus
11-29-2012, 02:00 AM
oh my god, please happen, I would love for LA to actually lose a trade for once.

WAYNEBO
11-29-2012, 02:58 AM
as a Laker hater, I would love this trade. That being said, the boards are already flooded with Knicks fans already designing their championship t-shirts, so that part would suck.

This coming from one of the more biased PSD trolls, er mods.

nickdymez
11-29-2012, 03:00 AM
People on this board over rate Gasol because they hate the Lakers and they only look at advanced stats.

HowFit
11-29-2012, 11:36 AM
Lol

VinceCarter
11-29-2012, 02:14 PM
why would anyone wants amare?

I'd trade 2 2nd rounders and $3 million for him. But that wouldn't work financially. Nevermind I don't want that horrid contract. The Nets already know all about those right now.