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OaktownRaider92
11-24-2012, 12:18 AM
Before you say this needs to go to the LAker forum let me finish...
IF the Lakers indeed are looking to ship Gasol out does anybody see them finding a trade partner?
If so, what do you think guys think hes worth now days?
Also, do you see any teams wanting him and his ridiculous contract?

Hellcrooner
11-24-2012, 12:20 AM
They need to buy him out.

Seriously.

He is so bad, he will make the Heat or Thunder sink when he signs for vets minimum.
Granted.

Lets buy him out.

OaktownRaider92
11-24-2012, 12:22 AM
They need to buy him out.

Seriously.

He is so bad, he will make the Heat or Thunder sink when he signs for vets minimum.
Granted.

Lets buy him out.

Is it possible to buyout at this time of the year?

Hellcrooner
11-24-2012, 12:22 AM
Is it possible to buyout at this time of the year?

Yes.

OaktownRaider92
11-24-2012, 12:24 AM
Yes.

Would that mean we have to pay him all the money we owe him?
Would we take a cap hit?

Hellcrooner
11-24-2012, 12:28 AM
^yes and yes.

But he is the responsible for all that is happening, he also is responsible for the black plague, world wars I and II, silphilis , aids and everything else-

so he needs to get bought out asap.

bucketss
11-24-2012, 12:29 AM
he can be bought out? imagine if he signed with miami:facepalm: rip to the league. i don't think the lakers are that stupid though.

OaktownRaider92
11-24-2012, 12:29 AM
^yes and yes.

But he is the responsible for all that is happening, he also is responsible for the black plague, world wars I and II, silphilis , aids and everything else-

so he needs to get bought out asap.

not happening

bucketss
11-24-2012, 12:30 AM
seriously bargnani and john lucas for pau and blake.

c.c.
11-24-2012, 12:40 AM
Just don't send him to Houston!!! I'm glad that Chris Paul trade got dismissed, send him back to Memphis.

Mr_Amaziing
11-24-2012, 02:51 AM
Pau Gasol in Okc! :D
I doubt it would happen but that would be Amazing

Pg- Westbrook / Maynor
Sg- Sefo / Martin / Lamb
Sf- Durant / Jones
Pf- Ibaka / Collison
C- Gasol / Thabeet / Perkins

Munkeysuit
11-24-2012, 03:11 AM
Pau to NY for Stoudemire ...that'd be interesting

raiderposting
11-24-2012, 04:13 AM
posted this in another thread too

pau and ebanks for Derrick Williams, AK, and Shved. That would be sick. Derrick Williams is a nice stretch 4. At just 21 he is very young. with Dwight teaching him on the defensive end how to guard big men and kobe teaching him how to get the mamba reflex by the time hes 24 or 25 he can be a very good player. AK is a beast and will help so much playoff time. Alexey= Manu 2.0

Kyben36
11-24-2012, 04:47 AM
Pau is not bad, he is just being miss used, ever since they got a good center in bynum to step up they made Pau a mid range jump shooter, now that Howard is there all he does is pass. he is a good player. and the Ring with the lakers proves it.

As far as a trade, Bulls would send Boozer and rip, but that being said, Boozer is just as bad of a contract. if not worse. bulls would love him though.

LakersIn5
11-24-2012, 04:55 AM
jamison for pau

Losoway
11-24-2012, 05:16 AM
Pau guasol is playing terrible this year

-Kobe24-TJ19-
11-24-2012, 05:24 AM
jamison for pau

lol we already have that guy.

But PAU SUCKS:facepalm::(

PurpleJesus
11-24-2012, 06:23 AM
Pau gets more money than he is worth, but he is a hell of a player, and plenty of teams will trade for him if they can make the money work...almost every team in the league is better with Pau on it.

DeRozan10
11-24-2012, 06:31 AM
So when Pau gets traded and the Lakers are still losing, then who becomes the new whipping boy???

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 06:35 AM
So when Pau gets traded and the Lakers are still losing, then who becomes the new whipping boy???

Probably Nash or Dwight.

nyyfan4life
11-24-2012, 06:59 AM
He would be great on the Rockets. They need a scoring presence on the block because the team is too reliant on perimeter play. I don't know what the Rockets would give up though considering the Lakers are a contending team. Lin-Harden-Parsons-Gasol-Asik is a very strong starting 5. Pau has become severely underrated (not specifically here on PSD) the past few seasons. Good 2-way big men are hard to find.

3ballbomber
11-24-2012, 09:05 AM
He would be great on the Rockets. They need a scoring presence on the block because the team is too reliant on perimeter play. I don't know what the Rockets would give up though considering the Lakers are a contending team. Lin-Harden-Parsons-Gasol-Asik is a very strong starting 5. Pau has become severely underrated (not specifically here on PSD) the past few seasons. Good 2-way big men are hard to find.
like your sig. she is too much that girl.

Manimal
11-24-2012, 09:20 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=clrh3ve

Who says no?

JasonJohnHorn
11-24-2012, 09:38 AM
I can't believe 'Antoni comes in and after three games he's already publically knocking one of his best players and benches Gasol for the entire 4th quarter. They guy helps get the Lakers to 3-straight finals appearances and helps win two rings, and then some coach who got fired from his last job and is 1-2 thinks he's in a place to start knocking a HOF player like Gasol.

If 'Antoni is going to take thie attitude with Gasol then the Lakers might as well trade him. But I'd get rid of 'antoni before I got rid of Gasol.

Mambashiro
11-24-2012, 09:49 AM
Pau has to be moved to his natural position as backup center to D. Howard. He looks awkward at the forward position in this offense. Give him minutes when Howard comes out. Also, I don't know who taught him how to come off the pick and roll. His is more like a pic and slide. Idea of the roll is to have the other defender to his back side when he comes off the pick. Pau needs to guard slower players not forwards that are quicker than him. He seems to have lost a few steps in the past few years. Besides that in the post he will be able to use more of his shooting skills instead of just shooting set shots.

Hellcrooner
11-24-2012, 10:24 AM
So when Pau gets traded and the Lakers are still losing, then who becomes the new whipping boy???

anyone but kobe.:rolleyes:

Im_in_Mia_bish
11-24-2012, 10:27 AM
This needs to go to the Lakers forum lol jk

c.c.
11-24-2012, 10:30 AM
He would be great on the Rockets. They need a scoring presence on the block because the team is too reliant on perimeter play. I don't know what the Rockets would give up though considering the Lakers are a contending team. Lin-Harden-Parsons-Gasol-Asik is a very strong starting 5. Pau has become severely underrated (not specifically here on PSD) the past few seasons. Good 2-way big men are hard to find.

We only going after guys in their 20's, no 30 year old and above!!!!

Lakers4life08
11-24-2012, 10:45 AM
Lakers won't shop him....he has contract until 2014 like everyone on Lakers (EXPECT NASH) only chance Gasol will be traded is for player that contract runs out at 2014...in the 2014 Lakers will begin the new window of they era...with big cap space for 2 superstars to sing alongside Howard

nycericanguy
11-24-2012, 10:45 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=clrh3ve

Who says no?

obviously MIN!

Why in the world would they trade a young stud center for a 33 year old declining Gasol?

And then you want them to add the #2 pick from last year AND Barea? :facepalm:

MIN wouldn't even do Pek for Gasol straight up

Manimal
11-24-2012, 11:18 AM
obviously MIN!

Why in the world would they trade a young stud center for a 33 year old declining Gasol?

And then you want them to add the #2 pick from last year AND Barea? :facepalm:

MIN wouldn't even do Pek for Gasol straight up

No team would give up a first rounder for Williams right now. He's a bust. Minnesota tried to package him for Batum and Portland rejected.

Minnesota needs to challenge to keep Love. What better way than to put Gasol next to Love. Would fit Adelmans offense like a glove.

AK + Love + Pau. That's a deadly front court.

Dade County
11-24-2012, 12:23 PM
paul>Bosh...... right Lakers fans?

D'antoni needs to change his style of play to fit the team that he has.

kobebabe
11-24-2012, 01:02 PM
I would rather keep Pau than buy him out! That would mean him heading to Miami and he would be just what they need to kiss the rest of the league goodbye!

knicks=love
11-24-2012, 01:03 PM
let's keep making pau threads and just name this site Pau Speculations Daily! :nod:

John Walls Era
11-24-2012, 01:05 PM
They need to buy him out.

Seriously.

He is so bad, he will make the Heat or Thunder sink when he signs for vets minimum.
Granted.

Lets buy him out.

What about Raptors? They can trade him for Bargnani. They use Gasol like Bargnani anyways, all he does is shoot jumpers. So it actually would help the Lakers.

Iron24th
11-24-2012, 01:06 PM
Pau for whoever can play with heart,effort and passion.

Patrick Ewing33
11-24-2012, 01:15 PM
He's going to be traded to the Knicks...... when I play NBA 2k.

reffahead
11-24-2012, 01:26 PM
Barg and Calderon for Pau is a trade helps both teams.

greg_ory_2005
11-24-2012, 02:51 PM
^yes and yes.

But he is the responsible for all that is happening, he also is responsible for the black plague, world wars I and II, silphilis , aids and everything else-

so he needs to get bought out asap.

Stop being a hater bro. Not cool. :pity:

JNoel
11-24-2012, 03:06 PM
Gasol is going to be traded real soon, trust me on that one.

MetroMan
11-24-2012, 03:35 PM
http://www.rantsports.com/nba/2012/11/24/nba-rumors-lakers-looking-to-trade-pau-gasol/

chi-townlove1
11-24-2012, 03:37 PM
Again.... Mods please do something.

DoMeFavors
11-24-2012, 03:44 PM
I thought these rumors would stop its like every month in the season, didnt kobe say Pau would be there untill he was there? But they should try to trade him to the Bucks for Illayasova and some others

Im_in_Mia_bish
11-24-2012, 03:45 PM
OH GOD, another two months of Chris Broussard and his sources.

KNICKS R BACK
11-24-2012, 03:54 PM
Again.... Mods please do something.

you sound like a butthurt lil puta homes

JOhnnyTHaJet
11-24-2012, 03:54 PM
Unless its for Josh Smith theyre not going to deal him. And the Hawks would be idiots to accept anything the Lakers offer.

Tmath
11-24-2012, 03:56 PM
Calderon & Bargnani for Pau + 1st rd pick

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 03:57 PM
Unless its for Josh Smith theyre not going to deal him. And the Hawks would be idiots to accept anything the Lakers offer.

Honestly, I don't even think it's going to be a star for star.

It's going to be for a borderline star at that starting 4 position with 2 solid role players that fit D'Antoni's style of play off that current putrid Lakers bench.

Ebbs
11-24-2012, 03:58 PM
Well I think everyone knows this whether the source is legitimate or not.

John Walls Era
11-24-2012, 03:59 PM
Calderon & Bargnani for Pau + 1st rd pick

Bargs for him straight up. Gasol + Calderon = :drool:

They basically use Gasol like Bargnani anyways.

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 04:00 PM
Calderon & Bargnani for Pau + 1st rd pick

First of all, Pau is the better player (in general), so why the hell would we be giving up a 1st round pick.

Second, even if we were asked to ship out a first round pick, guess what, we don't have anymore 1st round picks. We used up all of them for like the next 4 yrs to get Dwight and Nash.

Third, why would you guys want to give us Calderon? Wouldn't you want that Spanish-Spanish connection with him and Pau.

4th, Why in the world would you just trade away an expiring $10M+ contract of Calderon that could give you salary cap relief going forward?

superior
11-24-2012, 04:01 PM
Again.... Mods please do something.

LLLMMMAAAOOO!!! bruh u sound like a real hoe

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 04:02 PM
Bargs for him straight up. Gasol + Calderon = :drool:

They basically use Gasol like Bargnani anyways.

Too bad the salaries won't match. Bargs makes 10M while Pau makes 19M.

We'll give you Pau, Ebanks and Earl Clark for Bargs, Kleiza, Amir Johnson and a 2nd round pick.

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 04:02 PM
LLLMMMAAAOOO!!! bruh u sound like a real hoe

Agree. :laugh2:

dalton749
11-24-2012, 04:06 PM
take bargnani we need a change

bucketss
11-24-2012, 04:12 PM
Calderon & Bargnani for Pau + 1st rd pick

f the pick add darius morris:pray:

bucketss
11-24-2012, 04:13 PM
First of all, Pau is the better player (in general), so why the hell would we be giving up a 1st round pick.

Second, even if we were asked to ship out a first round pick, guess what, we don't have anymore 1st round picks. We used up all of them for like the next 4 yrs to get Dwight and Nash.

Third, why would you guys want to give us Calderon? Wouldn't you want that Spanish-Spanish connection with him and Pau.

4th, Why in the world would you just trade away an expiring $10M+ contract of Calderon that could give you salary cap relief going forward?

listen bro no one carers about no damn spanish connection lol we have lowry we don't need calderon lmao.

Avenged
11-24-2012, 04:16 PM
Again.... Mods please do something.

Llullz

bucketss
11-24-2012, 04:16 PM
Too bad the salaries won't match. Bargs makes 10M while Pau makes 19M.

We'll give you Pau, Ebanks and Earl Clark for Bargs, Kleiza, Amir Johnson and a 2nd round pick.

ugh if you guys get amir i might consider jumping off miamis jock and ride with LA as my second team you guys are stock piling all my fav players.
(nash,dwight)

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 04:16 PM
listen bro no one carers about no damn spanish connection lol we have lowry we don't need calderon lmao.

Really?

Then perfect.


Pau + Blake (you guys need a backup to Lowry, no?) + Clark (expiring 1M) + Ebanks (expiring 1M) for Calderon + Bargs + Landry Fields.

Nick O
11-24-2012, 04:17 PM
k. this is kinda a big deal i guess.. but still .. every time I see a Lakers thread its just .. :bang:

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 04:17 PM
ugh if you guys get amir i might consider jumping off miamis jock and ride with LA as my second team you guys are stock piling all my fav players.
(nash,dwight)

No I understand, you guys might value him a bit too much. How about Fields instead of Amir Johnson?

Have Fields and D'Antoni re-unite.

mdm692
11-24-2012, 04:17 PM
Honestly, I don't even think it's going to be a star for star.

It's going to be for a borderline star at that starting 4 position with 2 solid role players that fit D'Antoni's style of play off that current putrid Lakers bench.

Knowing Mike D' I bet you anything he's going to push for Stat+Novak.

Nick O
11-24-2012, 04:18 PM
Really?

Then perfect.


Pau + Blake (you guys need a backup to Lowry, no?) + Clark (expiring 1M) + Ebanks (expiring 1M) for Calderon + Bargs + Landry Fields.

that isnt... that bad....

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 04:19 PM
Knowing Mike D' I bet you anything he's going to push for Stat+Novak.

I doubt management goes for STAT's knees and that horrible contract. Summers of 2014 and 2015 are big free agency summers for the Lakers. Acquiring STAT will eff up those plans.

BHF
11-24-2012, 04:20 PM
Really?

Then perfect.


Pau + Blake (you guys need a backup to Lowry, no?) + Clark (expiring 1M) + Ebanks (expiring 1M) for Calderon + Bargs + Landry Fields.

wake up you are not a real gm and this is not nba2k12 lol we will give you this for that blablabla

bucketss
11-24-2012, 04:22 PM
Really?

Then perfect.


Pau + Blake (you guys need a backup to Lowry, no?) + Clark (expiring 1M) + Ebanks (expiring 1M) for Calderon + Bargs + Landry Fields.

fields? really? uh.. i mean yeah trade sounds good:D

North Yorker
11-24-2012, 04:23 PM
Really?

Then perfect.


Pau + Blake (you guys need a backup to Lowry, no?) + Clark (expiring 1M) + Ebanks (expiring 1M) for Calderon + Bargs + Landry Fields.

I probably do that deal. Fields cant be traded for another 3 weeks or so though.

bucketss
11-24-2012, 04:23 PM
actually after thinking about it theres no point in swapping two soft pf's

Kuya_Clive
11-24-2012, 04:24 PM
Bargs for him straight up. Gasol + Calderon = :drool:

They basically use Gasol like Bargnani anyways.

more like Lowry+Gasol

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 04:27 PM
f the pick add darius morris:pray:

Hell No. Morris is here to stay. Take Blake or Duhon :)

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 04:27 PM
fields? really? uh.. i mean yeah trade sounds good:D

I thought Landry flourished as a rookie under Mike in that system, and then when Melo came in via trade and took that starting SF role, and then Knicks got a chucker like JR to take all the shots , and then the whole Linsanity crap, Fields got lost in that whole mix of things.


Fields hasn't fit in Toronto because everyone is expecting him to live up to that contract he signed with them over the summer.


IMO, playing next to Nash, and having all that star player of high IQ guys like Nash, Dwight and Kobe would really help his career. He's still relatively young, has good upside.

Mr.Nate30
11-24-2012, 04:28 PM
Trade him to the Spurs :D.

but seriously my guess is Utah or Atlanta.

iam brett favre
11-24-2012, 04:28 PM
Pau is the most disrespected player publicly, and it's sad because the Lakers are going to miss him when they finally run him out of town.

AI
11-24-2012, 04:28 PM
Amare and Novak for Pau please :)

JNoel
11-24-2012, 04:29 PM
This may be an old rumor, but Gasol will be traded soon.

kblo247
11-24-2012, 04:47 PM
Hell No. Morris is here to stay. Take Blake or Duhon :)

Besides Morris and Ebanks could deny any trade they are in a as they would have to rescind their bird rights

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 04:48 PM
Amare and Novak for Pau please :)

no.

NYY 26 to 7
11-24-2012, 04:48 PM
Not surprising. Doesn't fit the system at all. They need a strech 4 and to people thinking amare fits he doesn't at all. Amare thrived as the 5 in this system and was awful at the 4. They would be best served with a Ryan Anderson and another role player.

John Walls Era
11-24-2012, 04:52 PM
Too bad the salaries won't match. Bargs makes 10M while Pau makes 19M.

We'll give you Pau, Ebanks and Earl Clark for Bargs, Kleiza, Amir Johnson and a 2nd round pick.

The Raptors should still do this. Not sure what Clark and Ebanks contract is, but they're scrubs so it shouldnt be that bad. Raptors get 1 good player in Antoni System, 2 good bench players. Crooner gets Pau and Calderon on the same team.

NYY 26 to 7
11-24-2012, 04:54 PM
I thought Landry flourished as a rookie under Mike in that system, and then when Melo came in via trade and took that starting SF role, and then Knicks got a chucker like JR to take all the shots , and then the whole Linsanity crap, Fields got lost in that whole mix of things.


Fields hasn't fit in Toronto because everyone is expecting him to live up to that contract he signed with them over the summer.


IMO, playing next to Nash, and having all that star player of high IQ guys like Nash, Dwight and Kobe would really help his career. He's still relatively young, has good upside.

You clearly did nothing but listen to posters and the media. Landry is not a good player has one of the worst shots in the league and consistently loses his man on D. He was a decent role player for a Knicks team where he was an unknown player by the league and was really nothing more than a decent role player that got blew up by the NY hype machiene.

Cal827
11-24-2012, 04:56 PM
Really?

Then perfect.


Pau + Blake (you guys need a backup to Lowry, no?) + Clark (expiring 1M) + Ebanks (expiring 1M) for Calderon + Bargs + Landry Fields.


****ING DEAL :dance:

KB-Pau-DH2012 for Laker GM

NYY 26 to 7
11-24-2012, 04:56 PM
The Raptors should still do this. Not sure what Clark and Ebanks contract is, but they're scrubs so it shouldnt be that bad. Raptors get 1 good player in Antoni System, 2 good bench players. Crooner gets Pau and Calderon on the same team.

Makes a lot of sense and gives the raps some cap space next year. If I were the raps though I would try and make them take Fields and his horrible contract. Bargs is the right type of player for that system.

soundjunkies2
11-24-2012, 04:57 PM
Calderon & Bargnani for Pau + 1st rd pick

I'd do this deal but the Lakers have no draft picks to send though.

Utd7
11-24-2012, 04:59 PM
I would gladly do a Pau for A'mare swap but no way the Lakers are that stupid.

TheNumber37
11-24-2012, 05:00 PM
Knicks fan says Amare

iam brett favre
11-24-2012, 05:01 PM
I'd give a 2nd rounder for Amare.

raiderposting
11-24-2012, 05:04 PM
i dont see how so many people are even thinking pau for amare is even in the realm of possibility. yes, the lakers who RAPE teams in trades are going to take on Amare's bad health on top of that contract.

Teeboy1487
11-24-2012, 05:06 PM
Honestly, I don't even think it's going to be a star for star.

It's going to be for a borderline star at that starting 4 position with 2 solid role players that fit D'Antoni's style of play off that current putrid Lakers bench.

I honestly hope so. We have enough stars. Heck having at least two is great and we have two superstars with an allstar in Nash returning. We need some glue guys/role players that can shoot 3s and defend consistently. That's something we lack outside of Metta this year.

StarvingKnick22
11-24-2012, 05:11 PM
Amare & Felton for Gasol and Steve Blake.

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 05:13 PM
Amare & Felton for Gasol and Steve Blake.

Stop it!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pluvious
11-24-2012, 05:14 PM
Amare & Felton for Gasol and Steve Blake.

:facepalm: Dwight Howard is now the pick and roll guy when Nash comes back. Amare does NOT fit! Get it? Questions?

Again, Amare is a pick and roll player. So is Dwight. If the Lakers decide to trade Gasol it is for a spread 4. The next person who mentions Gasol for Amare should be banned for life and eek out a meager existence on the ESPN boards.

Stunner
11-24-2012, 05:31 PM
Bulls , Hawks , Knicks and Raptors should jump on this

strahan92osi72
11-24-2012, 05:35 PM
Amare & Felton for Gasol and Steve Blake.

LOL forget the Lakers point of view, why in the world would you make that trade as a Knick fan?

Hustla23
11-24-2012, 05:36 PM
Amare + J.R. Smith + Novak + cash for Pau

strahan92osi72
11-24-2012, 05:39 PM
Amare + J.R. Smith + Novak + cash for Pau

At least you're not trading Felton for Steve Blake in your deal, but that's still a bit too much IMO. Knick fans are severly overrating Pau.

Stunner
11-24-2012, 05:42 PM
Maybe Pau is just better than Amare

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 05:43 PM
Amare + J.R. Smith + Novak + cash for Pau
I usually love Knicks fans, but today y'all are really pissing me off.

strahan92osi72
11-24-2012, 05:43 PM
Maybe Pau is just better than Amare

Not by much, if at all. Put it this way, the gap between Balke and Felton is a lot wider than Gasol and Amare.

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 05:48 PM
Not by much, if at all. Put it this way, the gap between Balke and Felton is a lot wider than Gasol and Amare.

Gasol actually plays, Amare hasn't seen the court in months.

strahan92osi72
11-24-2012, 05:49 PM
I usually love Knicks fans, but today y'all are really pissing me off.

Well I'm a Knick fan who honestly wants no part of Pau. I don't understand why so many Knick fans are drooling over a declining post player.

The goods
11-24-2012, 05:53 PM
Calderon & Bargnani for Pau + 1st rd pick

Throw in Derozan and you got a deal.

Mikeleafs
11-24-2012, 05:54 PM
Bargs for Pau straight up!!

Mikeleafs
11-24-2012, 05:56 PM
Throw in Derozan and you got a deal.


Be realistic buddy... LOL

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 05:58 PM
Bargs for Pau straight up!!

Pau-19M
Bargs-10M

Be realistic buddy. :D

Jamiecballer
11-24-2012, 05:59 PM
Calderon & Bargnani for Pau + 1st rd pick

this is exactly what i was thinking and in my mind it makes perfect sense for both teams. three players desperately in need of a change of scenery and the salary match.

Hustla23
11-24-2012, 05:59 PM
I usually love Knicks fans, but today y'all are really pissing me off.
LOL, Hey I think it'd work out better than you think. ;)

The goods
11-24-2012, 06:00 PM
Be realistic buddy... LOL

Sooo that's a no?

Ok Barg and uhhhhh Lowry? We'll throw in Blake. Lol

Pluvious
11-24-2012, 06:05 PM
I usually love Knicks fans, but today y'all are really pissing me off.

Ah, yeah. Amare to the Lakers makes ZERO sense. The problem with Gasol is that he is not a stretch floor and is not a very good defensive big. So let's bring in Amare to help with those two problems! :eyebrow:

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 06:06 PM
Ah, yeah. Amare to the Lakers makes ZERO sense. The problem with Gasol is that he is not a stretch floor and is not a very good defensive big. So let's bring in Amare to help with those two problems! :eyebrow:

Amare's contract and shaky knees to the Lakers makes Zero sense.


Remember, summer of 2014 and 2015 free agency is key in Lakerland after Kobe retires. Don't want any long horrid contracts that ruin our FO's plans.

Bluntz
11-24-2012, 06:07 PM
I would say to the Wolves but then I remembered the Lakers would think Love and Rubio back is a fair trade lmao

BcEuAbRsS
11-24-2012, 06:07 PM
Deng and Boozer for Pau, Artest, whatever 1st you have.

JasonJohnHorn
11-24-2012, 06:08 PM
This is crazy.. a guy has a couple of bad games under a new system, and the guy is on the trading block? I'd run 'antoni out of town before I ran Pau out of town. Man, no respect for what this guy has done for the franchise. This is pathetic.

Taimla
11-24-2012, 06:10 PM
Calderon & Bargnani for Pau + 1st rd pick

Call me crazy, but i realy think that can actualy make the Lakers better :shrug:

Jamiecballer
11-24-2012, 06:11 PM
This is crazy.. a guy has a couple of bad games under a new system, and the guy is on the trading block? I'd run 'antoni out of town before I ran Pau out of town. Man, no respect for what this guy has done for the franchise. This is pathetic.

it is, but if it gets Bargnani out of town i won't complain, will you?

bucketss
11-24-2012, 06:11 PM
Throw in Derozan and you got a deal.

throw in kobe and you got a deal.

Munkeysuit
11-24-2012, 06:12 PM
Trade Pau for Stoudemire

smith&wesson
11-24-2012, 06:12 PM
bargs and kleiza for gasol .

lakers

nash-blake
kobe-meeks
artest-kleiza
bargs-jameson
howard-hill

bargs is exactly the finess 4 that compliments howard well.

raptors

lowry/calderon
derozan/ross
fields/anderson
gasol/davis
jonas/amir

calderon/gasol connection would be nice.

Bluntz
11-24-2012, 06:13 PM
Didn't the Lakers almost trade Pau to Atlanta but they didn't think Josh Smith was enough in return? Embarrassing. I hope they can't trade him or they get a bucket of shrimp back in return.

bucketss
11-24-2012, 06:14 PM
Call me crazy, but i realy think that can actualy make the Lakers better :shrug:

probably would. dwight would hide all of barrrrrrrrrfnanis weaknesses.

Jamiecballer
11-24-2012, 06:15 PM
bargs and kleiza for gasol .

lakers

nash-blake
kobe-meeks
artest-kleiza
bargs-jameson
howard-hill

bargs is exactly the finess 4 that compliments howard well.

raptors

lowry/calderon
derozan/ross
fields/anderson
gasol/davis
jonas/amir

calderon/gasol connection would be nice.

don't think the Raps have the cap space to make that one work.. hmmm the trade machine says it works. if i'm the lakers i'm not accepting that deal though.

Bluntz
11-24-2012, 06:15 PM
Why do Raptors fans even want Gasol? Add a huge contract/aging player to a mediocre team = nothing..

Maybe playoffs so if that's the goal then cool

Jamiecballer
11-24-2012, 06:17 PM
Why do Raptors fans even want Gasol? Add a huge contract/aging player to a mediocre team = nothing..

Maybe playoffs so if that's the goal then cool

i can tell you why a lot of Raptor fans would want that... to move on from the shart stain that has been the Bargnani era lol

smith&wesson
11-24-2012, 06:19 PM
don't think the Raps have the cap space to make that one work

bargs makes 10 a year, kleiza 4.6 .. thats 14.6 mill

gasol makes makes 19 a year

am i missing something :confused:

maybe we throw them aron gray to make the salaries match.

Jamiecballer
11-24-2012, 06:22 PM
bargs makes 10 a year, kleiza 4.6 .. thats 14.6 mill

gasol makes makes 19 a year

am i missing something :confused:

for some reason i thought we were both at the cap already

Mikeleafs
11-24-2012, 06:23 PM
Pau-19M
Bargs-10M

Be realistic buddy. :D



OK throw in Fields and Lucas :D

smith&wesson
11-24-2012, 06:26 PM
for some reason i thought we were both at the cap already

maybe we use fields instead of kleiza..

only thing id be worried about is that pau's like 31-32 years old. how many great years does he really have left ?

ACanadian
11-24-2012, 06:30 PM
Barganani + Calderon for Pau and Morris seems fair. I just want Barganani out of Toronto and see a veteran teach Jonas Valanciunas, both a post bigs so why not? BC need's to take a gamble because were 3-10 and that's because we have no 4th quarter players, Gasol can be that guy, not ****ing Barganani who had multiple attempts at game winners but failed

jp611
11-24-2012, 06:31 PM
We will give you Boozer

*Silver&Black*
11-24-2012, 06:32 PM
Bulls , Hawks , Knicks and Raptors should jump on this

No way do I want to give up Josh Smith, Al Horford, or even Jeff Teague for Gasol. Devin Harris for Gasol, sure. But Hawks have no need for Gasol or his contract. We have the best cap situation in the league right now (add to the fact we are rebuilding), let's screw that up for what? Playoffs? We are doing good without him and will make it either way.

Jamiecballer
11-24-2012, 06:32 PM
maybe we use fields instead of kleiza..

only thing id be worried about is that pau's like 31-32 years old. how many great years does he really have left ?

i know. i hear you. but you are trading him for a guy who has never had a great year period. if we become a solid team signing free agents won't be such a challenge. and Calderon and Bargnani are the last remnants of the Bosh era and i think it would be good to move on...

Sadds The Gr8
11-24-2012, 06:34 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6lkoxf8

Cal827
11-24-2012, 06:34 PM
The main reason I want Gasol around is so Jonas can develop properly. I understand that most PFs aren't exactly great defensively, but Bargnani is just brutal. It's not good for a young center to develop, but can barely stay in games as the enemy PF (as well as the C he's defending) will be against him for rebounds, or he will have to provide the help defense.

Gasol isn't great defensively, but he rebounds well, and has much less lapses than Barfnani does. This way, Jonas can stay in more games, and possibly have Gasol there to help improve his offensive range and help prepare Jonas as a veteran.

LA would be fine, cause Howard would basically nullify Barg's flaws inside (as by far the best center in the league), and Bargs range would further terrorize other teams 4/5s..

Hopefully Bargs starts passing the ball more often though lol

JasonJohnHorn
11-24-2012, 06:38 PM
it is, but if it gets Bargnani out of town i won't complain, will you?

I'd be happy to see the Bargnani contact off the books... but I think Dwight really likes playing with a power forward that can actually rebound... lol

Hollasoren
11-24-2012, 06:41 PM
Amare for Pau
You have amare back with Nash and D'Antoni we're he thrived.
And Gasol next to Chandler in a defensive oriented team with woodson and the knicks.

Mikeleafs
11-24-2012, 06:50 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=be59udr

Raidaz4Life
11-24-2012, 06:54 PM
I'd kill to make a trade with the Raps that centered around acquiring Calderon and Bargs for Pau and Blake.

bucketss
11-24-2012, 06:55 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c9ah832 -_-''

SeoulBeatz
11-24-2012, 06:55 PM
Thad Young and Dorell Wright for Pau

Mikeleafs
11-24-2012, 06:55 PM
I'd kill to make a trade with the Raps that centered around acquiring Calderon and Bargs for Pau and Blake.

replace Blake with Artest and you got a deal :D

bucketss
11-24-2012, 06:55 PM
now that all the laker fans want to do it i dont want to do it anymore lol.

Blitzace137
11-24-2012, 06:57 PM
I think Amare in LA would make a lot of sense. Fans have somewhat turned their backs on Amare here in NY. He would be back with Nash and D'Antoni. Makes a lot of sense to me.

bucketss
11-24-2012, 07:01 PM
I think Amare in LA would make a lot of sense. Fans have somewhat turned their backs on Amare here in NY. He would be back with Nash and D'Antoni. Makes a lot of sense to me.

i don't think anyone in the league wants amare lmao.

Blitzace137
11-24-2012, 07:03 PM
i don't think anyone in the league wants amare lmao.

lol D'Antoni might be the one guy that would take Amare over Pau

Raidaz4Life
11-24-2012, 07:05 PM
Thad Young and Dorell Wright for Pau

I would do that in a heart beat as well.


Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Pau at all. On the contrary. I've just come to terms that we are never going to use him as anything more than a spot up shooter and he is way too valuable for that. Its an absolute waste of a player. Spot up shooters are a dime a dozen so we might as well trade Pau and get one and hopefully a solid bench piece as well.

Legitimate
11-24-2012, 07:08 PM
Bargnani for pau straight up :D. No calderon, we want him to play wtih gasol if we were to get him

StarvingKnick22
11-24-2012, 07:08 PM
LOL forget the Lakers point of view, why in the world would you make that trade as a Knick fan?
Would you keep him, if you had a shot at Gasol????

:facepalm: Dwight Howard is now the pick and roll guy when Nash comes back. Amare does NOT fit! Get it? Questions?

Again, Amare is a pick and roll player. So is Dwight. If the Lakers decide to trade Gasol it is for a spread 4. The next person who mentions Gasol for Amare should be banned for life and eek out a meager existence on the ESPN boards.
:cry: I just hate him, so much.

Stop it!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Not until Amare's gone

shep33
11-24-2012, 07:09 PM
Yeah it would have to include Jose and Blake

jericho
11-24-2012, 07:12 PM
Bulls , Hawks , Knicks and Raptors should jump on this

dude i love your sig lol

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 07:12 PM
Not until Amare's gone

Ya well blame your sorry *** ownership and front office for signing him in the first place to a Max contract 2 summers ago.

Raidaz4Life
11-24-2012, 07:15 PM
Ya well blame your sorry *** ownership and front office for signing him in the first place to a Max contract 2 summers ago.

It wasn't a bad deal 2 years ago... He was playing at an MVP level when he first went to the knicks. They just got dealt a bad hand with his knees.

Raidaz4Life
11-24-2012, 07:17 PM
Bargnani for pau straight up :D. No calderon, we want him to play wtih gasol if we were to get him

The only reason I wouldn't consider this is because Bargnani has an extra year on his contract. We are freeing you guys up a year. Plus Pau becomes a 20 mil expiring next year which has a lot of value.

eddyv7
11-24-2012, 07:21 PM
lakers would be stupid and crazy to trade pau hes one of the reason they won 2 championships and most skilled big-man in the game d anthoni has to figure out how to use him effectively in order to win

Raidaz4Life
11-24-2012, 07:23 PM
lakers would be stupid and crazy to trade pau hes one of the reason they won 2 championships and most skilled big-man in the game d anthoni has to figure out how to use him effectively in order to win

Trade Dwight?

GiantsSwaGG
11-24-2012, 07:26 PM
Dantoni already ruining the Lakers :laugh2:

Lakers4life08
11-24-2012, 07:40 PM
Gasol+Morris+1 round pick in 2025 for K.Love+Rubio

DumDum
11-24-2012, 07:43 PM
If they trade pay Kobe will never see the finals again as a player

DumDum
11-24-2012, 07:45 PM
If they trade pau Kobe with never see the finals again As a player

MetroMan
11-24-2012, 07:46 PM
If they trade pau Kobe with never see the finals again As a player

What ever you say dum dum

DumDum
11-24-2012, 07:47 PM
...

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 07:48 PM
I love DumDums :drool:

DumDum
11-24-2012, 07:49 PM
Coach No D can't be asking to trade stars if he hasn't done anything yet

Ty Fast
11-24-2012, 07:51 PM
jamison for pau

they have both unless u mean jenna

DumDum
11-24-2012, 07:51 PM
I'm here to point out suckers:drool::

Tmath
11-24-2012, 07:52 PM
Dantoni already ruining the Lakers :laugh2:

I just used the option to remove sigs for the first time because of you.

THE MTL
11-24-2012, 08:11 PM
Amare for Gasol. I think everyone will be happy.

MetroMan
11-24-2012, 08:16 PM
Amare for Gasol. I think everyone will be happy.

Amare, Novak, jr smith, k Kidd for gasol, Blake, Duhon

THE MTL
11-24-2012, 08:17 PM
Amare, Novak, jr smith, k Kidd for gasol, Blake, Duhon

lmao.....that sounds like a Laker trade, but we aint a small market team homie.

xxplayerxx23
11-24-2012, 08:17 PM
Any rumors? Real rumors not Amare for gasol type rumors lol

THE MTL
11-24-2012, 08:19 PM
WAIT! I just saw Gasol's stats.

13.8ppg 9rpg 43% FG and his last 2 games totaled 14pts. And his motivation is in question always.

Lakers lucky to get Stat for Gasol! I mean Stat had a "bad" season last year and still averaged 17.5ppg 8rpg 48% FG.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
11-24-2012, 08:20 PM
Amare for Gasol. I think everyone will be happy.

Mitch would laugh his *** off and hang up.

thrice4
11-24-2012, 08:22 PM
Monta Ellis, Drew Gooden, and Beno Udrih for Pau Gasol and Steve Blake.

DumDum
11-24-2012, 08:22 PM
No more amare for Pau talk:worthy:

LA RO
11-24-2012, 08:23 PM
no rumors?

bucketss
11-24-2012, 08:23 PM
WAIT! I just saw Gasol's stats.

13.8ppg 9rpg 43% FG and his last 2 games totaled 14pts. And his motivation is in question always.

Lakers lucky to get Stat for Gasol! I mean Stat had a "bad" season last year and still averaged 17.5ppg 8rpg 48% FG.

difference is gasol actually plays.

xxplayerxx23
11-24-2012, 08:23 PM
Amare for Pau :drool: Id miss stat, I still believe in him, but :drool:

VillaMaravilla
11-24-2012, 08:24 PM
No way I trade Stat for Pau....Amare has only 2 years left on his contract after this season lets stay the coursebif we dont win isss by then their all expiring together....2015 free agency is going to be nice and we will be the biggest player.....let pau go to toronto or wherever

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 08:25 PM
Amare for Gasol straightup.

That is our final offer.

xxplayerxx23
11-24-2012, 08:25 PM
Pau for amare :drool:

VillaMaravilla
11-24-2012, 08:28 PM
Laker fans act like pau plays real D lmao.....Stats numbers squash his on his bad year

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 08:30 PM
Laker fans act like pau plays real D lmao.....Stats numbers squash his on his bad year
Pau is still a decent shot-blocker and paint presence.

He can't guard quicker 4's though.

2013 DRTG
----
Kobe = 106
Pau = 103

Gibby
11-24-2012, 08:34 PM
First of all, Pau is the better player (in general), so why the hell would we be giving up a 1st round pick.

Second, even if we were asked to ship out a first round pick, guess what, we don't have anymore 1st round picks. We used up all of them for like the next 4 yrs to get Dwight and Nash.

Third, why would you guys want to give us Calderon? Wouldn't you want that Spanish-Spanish connection with him and Pau.

4th, Why in the world would you just trade away an expiring $10M+ contract of Calderon that could give you salary cap relief going forward?

we hate bargnani but he could be a perfect it in the dantoni system.

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 08:38 PM
ok so we agree on pau for bargs?

someone call michelgo

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-24-2012, 08:39 PM
we hate bargnani but he could be a perfect it in the dantoni system.

Honestly, I just wish Pau played with passion and ballz. I want to see 2010 Gasol, no more of this "I'm out of my comfort zone so I can't do anything". There's a reason why he's been known as the most versatile big man of the last 10 yrs.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
11-24-2012, 08:47 PM
Do people really believe Amar'e for Pau is a fair deal? I did not know that trading a top 5 PF(arguably 4th) for a guy who probably isn't in the top 10 in his position and has had injury problems as of late is good deal for both teams.

xxplayerxx23
11-24-2012, 08:48 PM
Pau for Amare :drool:^

xabial
11-24-2012, 08:50 PM
Lol Lakers fans making fun of Knicks fans for the Amar'e/Pau Trade propositions, and I don't blame them. If Knicks found a way to Trade Amare for Pau I would Jizz My Pants.

But I haven't seen one Lakers fan bash the Bargs trade proposals by raptors fans..

Bargs is HORRIBLE!. You think Pau is soft? Bargs is the definition of a pu**y. Bargs is a 7' Footer who doesn't block shots, rebound (Barg is a Career 4.9RPG and Gasol is a 9.2RPG), Steal, or do anything other than score. You think his averages of 18.7ppg on the season are impressive? He takes a MILLION SHOTS! and is really INEFFICENT! (Shooting 41% this season)

Dwight can't make up for everything.... You will literally have a PF whose mentality is.. and I quote:

Reporter: Addresses Bargs about his weak rebounding.

Bargs: "Its called Basketball, not Rebound-ball"

I know he seems like a pro-typical D'antoni player but I believe Lakers will get worse if they trade a declining Pau for a Scorer who won't score as much being the third option on his team., a player who doesn't put effort in anything other than shooting 3's and scoring... Ladies and gentleman Andrea Bargnani.

To top it all off, Bargnani Will uses $12M of your Precious Salary Cap Space for the Year you will have everyone Come of the books and will be players in FA.

ACanadian
11-24-2012, 08:54 PM
He's on to us guys

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 08:59 PM
Al jefferson for Pau

Yunqn
11-24-2012, 09:02 PM
Pau for derrick williams & pekovic package sounds interesting .. Williams can be marion for dantoni..

If the bulls go after pau then they will rush rose back which i hope doesnt happen.. But i would love or them to get pau without giving up deng noah & taj .. Send boozer elsewhere & give up mirotic, bobcats 1st & 2013 1st.. Ill maybe give em taj..maybe

Mave1002
11-24-2012, 09:04 PM
Pau is the most disrespected player publicly, and it's sad because the Lakers are going to miss him when they finally run him out of town.

Exactly. ****in GM wannabees. See what happens ;)

BHF
11-24-2012, 09:05 PM
Lol Lakers fans making fun of Knicks fans for the Amar'e/Pau Trade propositions, and I don't blame them. If Knicks found a way to Trade Amare for Pau I would Jizz My Pants.

But I haven't seen one Lakers fan bash the Bargs trade proposals by raptors fans..

Bargs is HORRIBLE!. You think Pau is soft? Bargs is the definition of a pu**y. Bargs is a 7' Footer who doesn't block shots, rebound (Barg is a Career 4.9RPG and Gasol is a 9.2RPG), Steal, or do anything other than score. You think his averages of 18.7ppg on the season are impressive? He takes a MILLION SHOTS! and is really INEFFICENT! (Shooting 41% this season)

Dwight can't make up for everything.... You will literally have a PF whose mentality is.. and I quote:

Reporter: Addresses Bargs about his weak rebounding.

Bargs: "Its called Basketball, not Rebound-ball"

I know he seems like a pro-typical D'antoni player but I believe Lakers will get worse if they trade a declining Pau for a Scorer who won't score as much being the third option on his team., a player who doesn't put effort in anything other than shooting 3's and scoring... Ladies and gentleman Andrea Bargnani.

To top it all off, Bargnani Will uses $12M of your Precious Salary Cap Space for the Year you will have everyone Come of the books and will be players in FA.

yeah Bargnani is soft he doesn't rebound but guess what Bargnani is playing and Stat is injured all the time ohh and look at the contracts now you tell me you would rather have Stat over Bargnani?

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:07 PM
Pau is still a decent shot-blocker and paint presence.

He can't guard quicker 4's though.

2013 DRTG
----
Kobe = 106
Pau = 103

You're making a fool out of yourself

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 09:10 PM
I am making a fool out of yourself

I know.

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:11 PM
I know.

FAIL! :laugh2:

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 09:15 PM
FAIL! :laugh2:

Crap, :o.

FraziersKnicks
11-24-2012, 09:15 PM
Amar'e for Pau straight up.

Amar'e gets reunited with Nash and D'Antoni, Knicks get a selfless great post player who would mesh a lot better with Melo and Tyson, no one gets any defense.

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:17 PM
No Amar'e!

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 09:17 PM
Amar'e for Pau straight up.

Amar'e gets reunited with Nash and D'Antoni, Knicks get a selfless great post player who would mesh a lot better with Melo and Tyson, no one gets any defense.

Pau's defense is underrated.

He can still block shots and be a decent deterrent to slashers in the paint with his length and timing and his m2m defense is pretty good except against very mobile 4's who can slash past him.

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:18 PM
Pau's defense is underrated.

He can still block shots and be a decent deterrent to slashers in the paint with his length and timing and his m2m defense is pretty good except against very mobile 4's who can slash past him.

Which is almost every starting PF in the league

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 09:19 PM
Which is almost every starting PF in the league

Which is why he should be played at C...

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:21 PM
Which is why he should be played at C...
He's not a good defender. He either gets blown by guarding mobile 4s, or get out-muscled by strong 4s or regular 5s. Either way he's going to get man handled.

xabial
11-24-2012, 09:22 PM
yeah Bargnani is soft he doesn't rebound but guess what Bargnani is playing and Stat is injured all the time ohh and look at the contracts now you tell me you would rather have Stat over Bargnani?

........................

Why Do you just assume I would prefer Stat over Bargs??? Is it because I'm a Knicks fan??

Where in the first post did I deliberately say I prefer Stat over Bargs. If you read the comment that you quoted me on I said I understood why Lakers fans laughed at the Amar'e/Pau trade proposals by Knicks and non-Knicks fans alike.

Please Re-Read my post instead of just looking for a reason to argue. The whole point of my is that I DID NOT UNDERSTAND why not one Lakers fan cringed at the Pau/Bargnani trade proposals by the Raptors fans.

If I were the Lakers I would want nothing to do with either of them. That's like asking me if you'd rather die by shooting yourself in the dick, or have Eric Cartman's horse bite it off instead.

Read my post, instead of drawing conclusions.. "Hey a Knicks fan arguing trading Pau for Bargs is bad ---yeaaa Im not reading his post., I'm just assuming that Knicks fan is saying STAT>>>>>>Barg"

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 09:24 PM
He's not a good defender. He either gets blown by guarding mobile 4s, or get out-muscled by strong 4s or regular 5s. Either way he's going to get man handled.
He isn't weak or exceptionally slow.
Did you forget 2009 where he shutdown Dwight in the Finals?

Sure occasionally he'll fall for a fake and foul a guy but that doesn't mean he can't hold his own in the post.

To much cherry picking when judging Pau and always in a negative fashion.

naps
11-24-2012, 09:26 PM
2010 finals real MVP is being the scapegoat? What's new here?

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:27 PM
He isn't weak or exceptionally slow.
Did you forget 2009 where he shutdown Dwight in the Finals?

Sure occasionally he'll fall for a fake and foul a guy but that doesn't mean he can't hold his own in the post.

To much cherry picking when judging Pau and always in a negative fashion.

That was 3 going to be 4 years ago.

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:28 PM
2010 finals real MVP is being the scapegoat? What's new here?

Kobe Bryant was the 2010 NBA Finals MVP.. FYI

xxplayerxx23
11-24-2012, 09:30 PM
:laugh: La fans are too funny. Pau isn't a good defender, but some of you are over doing it. Pau is still a very good player

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 09:30 PM
Kobe Bryant was the 2010 NBA Finals MVP.. FYI

Yeah but Pau had a really strong case for the award.

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:31 PM
:laugh: La fans are too funny. Pau isn't a good defender, but some of you are over doing it. Pau is still a very good player

He's a good player, but not a good defender.. You can be both you know..

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:32 PM
Yeah but Pau had a really strong case for the award.

But he didn't get it.

bucketss
11-24-2012, 09:32 PM
FAIL! :laugh2:

:laugh: that was epic.

naps
11-24-2012, 09:33 PM
Pau is the new Shaq. Done bringing championships in LA as the real man and get kicked out of town as a result. Then it's gonna be Dwight, etc.

xxplayerxx23
11-24-2012, 09:37 PM
He's a good player, but not a good defender.. You can be both you know..

He isnt what i would call good on defense but the way you mad him out as one of the worst in the game. average at worst.

Zefflin
11-24-2012, 09:38 PM
Which is why he should be played at C...

haha you're the worst troll on PSD, and that says a lot. Congrats.

LAKERMANIA
11-24-2012, 09:39 PM
He isnt what i would call good on defense but the way you mad him out as one of the worst in the game. average at worst.

I never said he is the worst in the game

I said he either gets blown by agile 4s, which includes most starting 4s, gets out-muscled by strong starting 4s, or gets out-muscled by strong starting 5s..

He's slow and lazy

TrueFan420
11-24-2012, 10:11 PM
Post a like that they are looking to move him or this thread should be closed

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 10:20 PM
I never said he is the worst in the game

I said he either gets blown by agile 4s, which includes most starting 4s, gets out-muscled by strong starting 4s, or gets out-muscled by strong starting 5s..

He's slow and lazy
Yeah and Kobe is frequently lazy on defense and frequently fails to adequately cover quicker guard/forwards.

Is he crap also?

Players have limitations.

I Rock Shaqs
11-24-2012, 10:20 PM
Post a link that they are looking to move him or this thread should be closed

Your Welcome!

Jenceman
11-24-2012, 10:20 PM
Yeah and Kobe is frequently lazy on defense and frequently fails to adequately cover quicker guard/forwards.

Is he crap also?

Players have limitations.

Kobe's defense has been pretty good this season.

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 10:22 PM
Kobe's defense has been pretty good this season.
His defense towards the start of the season was terrible.

It has gotten much better since then but he still frequently conserves energy on that end and he still can't guard guys with good quickness.

He also at times just follows the ball around like they are playing soccer.

Greedy22
11-24-2012, 10:24 PM
Pau is the new Shaq. Done bringing championships in LA as the real man and get kicked out of town as a result. Then it's gonna be Dwight, etc. when was Pau ever the real man?

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 10:28 PM
when was Pau ever the real man?

Pau was at worst the "co-man" with Kobe in 2010.
He was just as valuable as Kobe was to that title run.

Chronz
11-24-2012, 10:30 PM
Which is why he should be played at C...

haha you're the worst troll on PSD, and that says a lot. Congrats.
But he should be playing center and playing on the blocks, hes not a 4 anymore

Blitzbolt
11-24-2012, 10:32 PM
I don't care about the lakers but I hope Pau moves to a team that will give him 10+ touches in the Post like he had with Spain or even in his Grizz and triangle days..

NBAfan4life
11-24-2012, 10:37 PM
But he should be playing center and playing on the blocks, hes not a 4 anymore

I agree. I think they would be better served giving Dwight more rest and having Gasol come off the bench.

Less minutes for the both of them and Pau playing the 5 more.

Chronz
11-24-2012, 10:43 PM
Yup

shep33
11-24-2012, 10:46 PM
His defense towards the start of the season was terrible.

It has gotten much better since then but he still frequently conserves energy on that end and he still can't guard guys with good quickness.

He also at times just follows the ball around like they are playing soccer.

Have to remember that he's also playing point guard for us, while playing 37 mpg

mVpDirk41
11-24-2012, 10:47 PM
dirk for pau lol

xxplayerxx23
11-24-2012, 10:52 PM
dirk for pau lol

Why would Dallas do that lol

Raidaz4Life
11-24-2012, 11:02 PM
Why would Dallas do that lol

Why would they not do it?

Jarvo
11-24-2012, 11:04 PM
Pau is just soft and you giys wasn't calling him "trash" when Phil was there.

b@llhog24
11-24-2012, 11:21 PM
Pau for whoever can play with heart,effort and passion.

:cricket:


Lol Lakers fans making fun of Knicks fans for the Amar'e/Pau Trade propositions, and I don't blame them. If Knicks found a way to Trade Amare for Pau I would Jizz My Pants.

But I haven't seen one Lakers fan bash the Bargs trade proposals by raptors fans..

Bargs is HORRIBLE!. You think Pau is soft? Bargs is the definition of a pu**y. Bargs is a 7' Footer who doesn't block shots, rebound (Barg is a Career 4.9RPG and Gasol is a 9.2RPG), Steal, or do anything other than score. You think his averages of 18.7ppg on the season are impressive? He takes a MILLION SHOTS! and is really INEFFICENT! (Shooting 41% this season)

Dwight can't make up for everything.... You will literally have a PF whose mentality is.. and I quote:

Reporter: Addresses Bargs about his weak rebounding.

Bargs: "Its called Basketball, not Rebound-ball"

I know he seems like a pro-typical D'antoni player but I believe Lakers will get worse if they trade a declining Pau for a Scorer who won't score as much being the third option on his team., a player who doesn't put effort in anything other than shooting 3's and scoring... Ladies and gentleman Andrea Bargnani.

To top it all off, Bargnani Will uses $12M of your Precious Salary Cap Space for the Year you will have everyone Come of the books and will be players in FA.

Lmao, awesome. :laugh:

Andrew32
11-24-2012, 11:22 PM
Pau is just soft.

Pau is not and has never been soft.
He has no issue banging in the post and dealing with contact.

Anyone who watched him in 09 and 10 knows he aint soft.

xxplayerxx23
11-24-2012, 11:22 PM
Why would they not do it?

1-Dirk has been the face of Dallas for how long?
2-Dirk>Pau

MetroMan
11-24-2012, 11:50 PM
Pau still did not impress me tonight

GiantsSwaGG
11-24-2012, 11:56 PM
I just used the option to remove sigs for the first time because of you.

If you ain't down with the team, get out

Evolution23
11-25-2012, 12:04 AM
Why would they not do it?

Cause that be horrible for the Mavs. Obviously.

Evolution23
11-25-2012, 12:05 AM
1-Dirk has been the face of Dallas for how long?
2-Dirk>Pau

He's a Laker fan. He thinks they can get any player for their garbage.

Jarvo
11-25-2012, 12:14 AM
Pau is not and has never been soft.
He has no issue banging in the post and dealing with contact.

Anyone who watched him in 09 and 10 knows he aint soft.

Yeah 09 & 10, But 2011 & 2012 he is.

strokeman
11-25-2012, 12:28 AM
Pau and fillers are most likely going to ATL for Josh Smith. i know thats the Lakers #1 choice, than you have NY playing good without amare stoudemire that they will be willing to trade him but the contracts will play a huge role in that, if Pau contract will come off the books before Amare, i think its a done deal!

*Silver&Black*
11-25-2012, 12:57 AM
Pau and fillers are most likely going to ATL for Josh Smith. i know thats the Lakers #1 choice,

Someone should inform ATL of this, because they didn't want anything to do with Gasol the last 3-4 times they tried to trade us Gasol.

bucketss
11-25-2012, 01:02 AM
:cricket:



Lmao, awesome. :laugh:

he was also said “I do things that are more complicated than rebounds and defense”.

Hellcrooner
11-25-2012, 02:22 AM
http://lakers.ocregister.com/2012/11/24/pau-gasol-reveals-pretty-bothersome-knee-tendinitis/74873/

mjt20mik
11-25-2012, 02:40 AM
Bargnani + Lucas for Gasol + Filler

Sactown
11-25-2012, 03:46 AM
I love when a player is rumored to be on the block, everyone and their Grandma offers their teams garbage and bad contracts for him and tries to justify it

Ex 1. The Lakers should take Amare even though his contract is horrendous and he has horrible knees, but trust me, if he's on the Lakers he'll become an all-star and his knee injuries will disappear like Adam Morrisons NBA career!

Ex 2. Take Bargs! I know we said he sucks, but he actually is the best PF in the NBA and is totally worth is contract, P.S he'll definitely rebound better on L.A!

Guppyfighter
11-25-2012, 03:48 AM
David Lee and Andris Biedrens for Pau.

Sactown
11-25-2012, 03:51 AM
David Lee and Andris Biedrens for Pau.

Why would they want Andris Biedrens 9 mil a year deal? Or David Lee's contract? He's not worth his 13-15 mil per year salary either...

exactly what I was talking about a second ago....

Guppyfighter
11-25-2012, 03:53 AM
Why would they want Andris Biedrens 9 mil a year deal? Or David Lee's contract? He's not worth his 13-15 mil per year salary either...

exactly what I was talking about a second ago....

David Lee has been better than Pau this year.

The deal basically means instead of losing 19 million of cap in two years, they only lose nine million of it, but get better this year and next year because Pau is obviously declining.

Sactown
11-25-2012, 03:58 AM
David Lee has been better than Pau this year.

The deal basically means instead of losing 19 million of cap in two years, they only lose nine million of it, but get better this year and next year because Pau is obviously declining.

Pau's an expiring in 2 years, and they can get much more out of 15mil in LA than David Lee...
And I said David Lee isn't worth 15mil, I didn't mean Pau was playing like he was worth 19 mill, but at least he's an expiring next year, and a legit all star when played in the right position.. David Lee... not so much