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jrap08
11-21-2012, 12:38 PM
i know NBA has D-League but the MLB rookie/minor league farm system is still has a lot of dynamics into it.. maybe we can see small market NBA teams trading their high prospects just like in MLB to get established stars.. or just seeing the process of how a rookie work his way up to the big leagues just like in baseball
Impossible?
Not worth it?
Been considered before?
will remain a fantasy?

RLundi
11-21-2012, 12:40 PM
I don't think so. With trades, the salaries have to come close to matching, so you'll probably never see a Marlins-Blue Jays- or Red Sox-Dodgers-type trades.

DamnGoat
11-21-2012, 12:43 PM
Doubtful that it'll ever be the same. There just aren't that many D-Leaguers that have much of a long term impact and hardly any that turn out to be stars. There are so many levels to MLB's minor league system too.

jrap08
11-21-2012, 12:46 PM
I don't think so. With trades, the salaries have to come close to matching, so you'll probably never see a Marlins-Blue Jays- or Red Sox-Dodgers-type trades.

yeah w/ salary cap those trades will be impossible.. but the other dynamics will be exciting though (like prospect rankings, promotion, demotion & trades involving prospects w/in the salary cap).. but there will be lots of complication I guess & seems to be impossible

Fresno
11-21-2012, 12:46 PM
Big difference.

Its much easier for NBA rookies to transition to the NBA than MLB prospects who have to experience different levels of the game before they can reach the majors.

A good comparison is:
Top 10 MLB prospects = Top 10 basketball recruits in Sophmore Yr of HS

The only difference between the superstars and the guys who flame out is how they're handled/developed. For baseball its minor leagues and for basketball its HS & college.

jrap08
11-21-2012, 12:49 PM
Doubtful that it'll ever be the same. There just aren't that many D-Leaguers that have much of a long term impact and hardly any that turn out to be stars. There are so many levels to MLB's minor league system too.

you are right... probably if the NBA still accepts High Schoolers they can have some levels too.. but then again it's not possible coz of the NCAA.. or maybe they can go to the NCAA & still be part of the team's farm system if they agreed to sign early while doing college hoops haha.. there is really a lot of complications hahah

Fresno
11-21-2012, 12:50 PM
yeah w/ salary cap those trades will be impossible.. but the other dynamics will be exciting though (like prospect rankings, promotion, demotion & trades involving prospects w/in the salary cap).. but there will be lots of complication I guess & seems to be impossible

The only way the D-League can become an actual viable minor league system is if the NBA adopts the European system and allows teams to sign kids who are 15-16 years old. Then you'd really see NBA teams go nuts over "prospects" because they are already scouting kids even then.

A guy like Ricky Rubio was playing professional basketball at 16 in Spain.

Didn't hurt him at all and he matured quicker having to be a professional.

jrap08
11-21-2012, 12:53 PM
Big difference.

Its much easier for NBA rookies to transition to the NBA than MLB prospects who have to experience different levels of the game before they can reach the majors.

A good comparison is:
Top 10 MLB prospects = Top 10 basketball recruits in Sophmore Yr of HS

The only difference between the superstars and the guys who flame out is how they're handled/developed. For baseball its minor leagues and for basketball its HS & college.

yup agree.. & baseball has like 25 or 40 man rosters where as baskeball has 12-15 so not a lot of opportunity for those in the farm system if there will be any

jrap08
11-21-2012, 12:56 PM
The only way the D-League can become an actual viable minor league system is if the NBA adopts the European system and allows teams to sign kids who are 15-16 years old. Then you'd really see NBA teams go nuts over "prospects" because they are already scouting kids even then.

A guy like Ricky Rubio was playing professional basketball at 16 in Spain.

Didn't hurt him at all and he matured quicker having to be a professional.

yeah that might be probably the only way.. the rubios LBJs Durants & other 18-20 yrs old sensations are like the bryce harpers mike trouts where as the other will be probably come up at NBA level at the age of 22-24 just like the average MLB big leaguers

Fresno
11-21-2012, 12:58 PM
you are right... probably if the NBA still accepts High Schoolers they can have some levels too.. but then again it's not possible coz of the NCAA.. or maybe they can go to the NCAA & still be part of the team's farm system if they agreed to sign early while doing college hoops haha.. there is really a lot of complications hahah

Actually I've wanted that concept for awhile.:clap::clap:

Let the NCAA be specifically for players who want to get a college education, play college basketball because of the history, & have the college experience of being the big man on campus.

Then open up a loophole for D-League teams to sign players who are at least 16 years old on the condition they have to spend 2 seasons in the D-League before being eligible to be called up by a NBA team. Let them become professionals instead of forcing them to make money for a college.

Fresno
11-21-2012, 01:01 PM
yeah that might be probably the only way.. the rubios LBJs Durants & other 18-20 yrs old sensations are like the bryce harpers mike trouts where as the other will be probably come up at NBA level at the age of 22-24 just like the average MLB big leaguers

Agreed.

The average MLB big leaguers bounce around and maybe have a good season to get overpaid just like the average NBA players do. I think everyone knows a special talent when they see one so a kid right now like Andrew Wiggins would probably be the top rated NBA prospect in the minors.

jrap08
11-21-2012, 01:03 PM
Actually I've wanted that concept for awhile.:clap::clap:

Let the NCAA be specifically for players who want to get a college education, play college basketball because of the history, & have the college experience of being the big man on campus.

Then open up a loophole for D-League teams to sign players who are at least 16 years old on the condition they have to spend 2 seasons in the D-League before being eligible to be called up by a NBA team. Let them become professionals instead of forcing them to make money for a college.

Wow you have good points right there..
then they can also invite more international prospects in their farm system make the NBA more global hahah

jrap08
11-21-2012, 01:06 PM
Agreed.

The average MLB big leaguers bounce around and maybe have a good season to get overpaid just like the average NBA players do. I think everyone knows a special talent when they see one so a kid right now like Andrew Wiggins would probably be the top rated NBA prospect in the minors.

yup.. if this is possible it can make the league more balance... with good early scouting, recruiting & player development
that Andrew Wiggins is really good another franchise changing talent